Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: stiffler2100 on November 13, 2007, 07:45:17 am
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sorry but loads of people are saying bring them back i feel as though this is appropriate. this new server annoys me with all the bugs n glitches. even when fixed i wont like its to different. please consider bringing it back or hosting 2 servers or even ill chip in just so u host old server on diff host.
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I cant really decide, Ill have to give it a week or so to see if there is improvements to it.
But ATM 2.1 >> the New Server
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Well, considering how hard all the developers worked just to make these scripts is quite a big ask of them. Also the fact that people where complaining about the old sctips sometimes. I feel once you get to know the commands etc. You will feel the same about the new server as you did the old. But i dont think there is any need to get rid of the new one alltogther escepecally because of all the hard work being put into them and the fact that they are very good once you know the commands and ignore some of the annoying little bugs.
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ok.. Wanna know stuff ok here it all is
Quated from Ron
Attention!
The official opening of RockStars 3.0 RPG will be on November, 12, 2007 at 17:00 CET
The 3.0 scripts will be opened on 89.149.196.238:7777
The current server (0.2.1) will be closed on maintenance of uploading scripts...
The program:
1. Opening Party at RockStars club
Location: Las Venturas, Rockstar Hotel
Entrance: free
President's arriving, Government speech, gifts
2. The tour to the Argonath Disneyland on buses
Location: Disneyland
Opening the Disneyland with the SPECIAL EFFECTS.
The Argonath Government needs a support from ARPD with the escorts, admins with the protection.
Welcomed all...
The old bans will be expired...
Thanks....
From Crimson
Some of you might be a bit disappointed, but that was impossible to eliminate ALL the bugs during the betatests. We're going to fix everything and then you will find the new script version much better than the previous one.
From Ron
We are also disappointed with the release... As it showed the problem of timing out, which was not with 10-15 betatesters or ever on RockStars test server... and came only with the big amount of players...
As we understood, there can be mistakes and not-checked positions, we announced the Saturday as second opening... On a case if a big amount of players will give negative results which should be fixed...
Cash inbalance fixed... The problem with the timing out - is under test of public server...
Hope you will be patient until we'll find what is causing the problem...
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ok well i go on ur new samp server no1 speaks i cant see anyone on the map i know i havnt dc caus one person is talking to me at least. i dont understand why there is only 12 skins how the hell can i be a cop what is going on here someone please explain the server to me is it just temporary for today because of party or is it how its gonna be for ever?
im grateful just more people prefer older server and i think they should host both. shifter the bugs r endless the most annoying one being commands dont work randomly. spawning as tramp even with ur location saved. keeps crashing. all the cars r exactly the same (not a bug just annoying)
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I think its a good idea to move to 0.2.2.
Now that 0.2.1 server is gone, all the people play at 0.2.2 and that way there are more testers.
The bugs that are left will be found faster and get fixed faster.
Just imagine how good the scripts will be once the remaining bugs are fixed. :)
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Yay Go JNN
GUYS HOW TO FIX THE LOCATION Saved..
Dont login untill Spawn screen :))) Thanks Claire for that Info!
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Is the server in public beta? yes
Have they finished making the script? no
Are they currently working really hard on the script removing all bugs and making it perfect? yes
So you just need to be patient and wait.
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Dont bring back old server.
Within a few days bugs will be fixed, then its gonna be really awesome.
Awesome work on scripts developers.
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The scripters did some great work on the new scripts, I prefer 0.2.2 scripts because they have more options, these scripts improve Roleplay,
Just wait and see when the scripts are completed.
Meanwhile, why don't you just play on the 0.2.2 server and just report the bugs to the scripters.
The more bugs you find and report, how faster the scripts will be complete and bug-free, the faster you can go on with your RP-life on Argonath.
Kyro
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We shall still keep the 0.2.2 server. Look it at the bright side if they have not made the server we could never played and enjoyed the RP and The good friends. We shall be thankfull what we got and im sure the server getting better this week or next :) Just be patience
[ALS]Omri
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...i hate those cars in new scripts... especially Euros and turismos in farms
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Yeh, lol :lol:
I always cross the limit on my GM :cool:
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I dont hate the cars , It s just that there are more expensive cars than is realistic I like the euros , but why buy one when they spawn on every corner ?
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sorry for my rudeness i see all u points. like i said though i appreciate the hard work argonath devolpment team are putting into this
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Yep, at first, i hate new scripts, cause it was confusing, Hot in my house, i was anxious, i was just not relaxed.
i want 0.2.1 just because i liked how everything was, how it was basic, how you can pick all skins you want.
you could be
Officer Hayden
Dr.Hayden
Mrs.Hayden ( LOL )
Mr.Hayden
gayden
but now, i guess its more RLRP cause you have to buy clothes
and TCL OWNS A CLOTHIONG SHOP! whoo free clothes :P
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just give it time guys, time will heal all :D guys, all you need is a few weeks on the server to adjust, then you will be fine and you will see that the scripts are much better.!!11!!!11!!1!(one)(one)!!1!
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just give it time guys, time will heal all :D guys, all you need is a few weeks on the server to adjust, then you will be fine and you will see that the scripts are much better.!!11!!!11!!1!(one)(one)!!1!
I <3 that !!!!111(oneoneone) thing xD
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I like the scripts very much.
They didn't seem like a "Zomg 1337 Scripts 9999x better than pen1". You know that it may not actually have the Pen1shop features, but instead of all that - There are some stuff like growing weed, what are really original.
Now after waiting for the new scripts for long time, about 4 months?, I realize what has taken the time on developing the gamemode...
They would be the Weed system & lots of other stuff, what they have made original.
The "Shop for clothes" has even been made original, which is even more better, you know?
I have seen this system, but on a different way. It brings a lot of RP in
Yeh, I also spawned with cop clothes when i was born...
Some people don't see the good light of the new scripts, because in the start they seem so hard, so they did seem hard for me.
But having a closer look takes you closer...
And it is not the SA-MP you are bringing back here, it is the "Bringing Argonath RPG SA-MP Server back to 0.2.1 & Old scripts"
To play on the new scripts, You are going to need a lot of RP Skill in your head,
- Andre
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1. About timing out... Some solutions were found and fixed... There is some error as well which we are trying to find out... It is about "teaming timing out"... Other "timed out" is not cos of script even... I checked the official servers, people were timing out there as well... 50% of timing out - pings (lag)... So with random time out we cannot help you...
2. The same cars on server... Yes, the same... Check Car-dealers and you will see other cars... This is one of the advantages of owning your own car... So you can scream, cry, demand - the car system right now is the best from my point of view... Cos cars on server - just to drive around... Wanna cool car - pay money... Wanna own limo - pay money... What is the problem???
3. Cash inbalance detection... The main bug of cash fixed... The big inbalance - who asked you to try to use the bug for increasing your money? Of cos you were kicked every time... Ask me to fix? I do not fix without checking exactly accounts... That is why several "businessmen" lost their business right at the first day of scripts...
4. "I do not like skins system"... Good... That is why there are skin-shops... Go and buy the one you like... Or you wanted to own only food shops?
5. "I am confused what to do on server and hate scripts for it"... Nice... The one thing you should know - www.argonathrpg.com... Not all pages finished, but at least you can see the commands, skins system, loan system, cars system and general commands for shops...
And what is not clear?
6. There are too much commands and missions!... So what? Should we stay SA:MP RPG copsvsrobbers all the time?
What is fun in just using /drunk and walk drunk? When you can go and buy drinks in a club...
And the last... Please, do not flood my PMs or Gandalf's on server with messages like "OMFG loan is not working!" or "Where can I buy a freeway?" or "How much costs banshee?"... 80% of your questions have already answers on forums and on web site... License and passport ask from admins... There are more admins who can give it to you... Getting the Badge - check ARPD site, who are the leaders, and ask them to give you the badge to become official cop... Not me, not Gandalf takes this problems... And right now for us more important to find the timing out reasons then show, where is freeway located...
It is not a full version of script we wanted to give... Several features were removed, as they caused a crash... The one fault of scrips was - trying to use all suggested features in SA:MP 0.2.2... It does not work... We removed... But we still try to fix the timing-outs with the scripts we want to use... And that is not 0.2.1 script we wanna use...
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In nomine patri et fillii et spiritu sancti :pop:
AMEN! :D
People should stop complaining and start Rping so that there are some criminals around to arrest or people who wanna pay a hooker :girl: :hurray:
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...i hate those cars in new scripts... especially Euros and turismos in farms
i disagree. there is a wider variety which is very good. i like the control of them and, as a limo driver, find that it will really improve the quality of the job that ALS limo drivers do
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We tried the 0.2.1 scripts on the 0.2.2 server. Result: the server lagged as hell and restarted within 5 minutes every time.
The problems in timeouts are probably due to us putting a lot of features, and we are going to adress the ones that we think are causing the timeout, we have already reduced the mass timeouts a lot.
We could keep the 0.2.1, but as there is no master list it would lead to not a lot of new SA:MP players coming to Argonath. Our goal is to have a stable and growing community, for this we need a 0.2.2 server.
It has cause us a lot of work to find out where the problems are. So far we have taken down the features:
- streaming cars
- automatic weather (lag)
- time (timeouts)
We have changed the way peoples cars leave the server due to a topic in SA:MP forums that describes a bug and a method on how to reduce it.
This bug is 'fixed for future releases'.
What pains us most is that features that are advertised seem to be causing problems when used. We have put a lot of time and effort in to designing, and have put in all possible precautions against crashing.
The stability is one of the things that we try to do our best for, but we are up against some things we would rather not be.
Do not see this as a sign to ask on SA:MP forums, the answers you will find there refer to bad coding or possible script bugs....not possible problems in the 0.2.2 version.
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lol just send me all ur scripts and ill host them. hehe im only joking.....so looks like 0.2.1 aint commen back =( ahhh well ill get used to the new one. thanks for ur time and effort!
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Stiff... the new Scripts can only get better...
Twice i've said this... another in Corleone Topic :lol:
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Well yeah we tried the old scripts on 0.2.2... The most people already got bored of them after 5 mins and wanted back on new server even with the times out...
Also note to yourself, that the time out problem was not solved in 0.2.1... It just did not have coming and timed out/leaving messages... So the times out were... SA:MP 0.2.2 cannot handle old script, which was on 0.2.1... And that already showed, that the new script better even in running on 0.2.2...
And as Gandalf said - 0.2.1 servers are not in a master list of crowded 0.2.2 version... So 0.2.1 server anyway was going nowhere...
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This topic is so dumb... 11 people so far (according to the poll) have voted that they want the old scripts back... That is a huge insult to developers that have devoted their effort and time into creating new scripts for us to enjoy, sure there are teething problems but this is the case with every new script. I think that the developers have made a great job and I hope they fix the bugs because I am excited for when the server will be stable.
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how is it insutling the devolpers? we all appreciate there work and have our right to an opinion on what server was better. if people wish to vote that they want old server running on 0.2.1 aswell they can.
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this is Why i wanted Ron to take down the 0.2.1 Server When 0.2.2 was stable Enough for Public beta... But of cos... i dont think i said it till now :) but still 0.2.2 is great
BTW When i went on server Today... it was ... 30 People on a Server... i went thats it... it was old server.. i was confused.. then ron Said GO back to other server i went OHH!!!...
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Watti 10 admins told you at once - it is a test on stability... So why were you confused...
I said people to go on the new server, cos 0.2.1 scripts were not just timing out people, it was crashing the whole 0.2.2 server... Still even after it you came on new server with the same confusion... And now you still confused...
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this is Why i wanted Ron to take down the 0.2.1 Server When 0.2.2 was stable Enough for Public beta... But of cos... i dont think i said it till now :) but still 0.2.2 is great
BTW When i went on server Today... it was ... 30 People on a Server... i went thats it... it was old server.. i was confused.. then ron Said GO back to other server i went OHH!!!...
There was a 2 week Public Beta test, and people did not have such timeouts, otherwise we would not have ended the test. But there were never more than 10 people on at a time. The thoughts were to go back to beta test. Problem: as there will again be just 10 people testing, we do not know if we are solving anything.
We already have increased stability and will continue to do so. In the mean time believe us that we are upset with every timeout more than the player....
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Watti Is confusing and also confused :rofl:
But ok on topic people complain about the new server , this is normal , in dutch we say : Wat de boer niet kent dat eet ie niet (literaly What the Farmer doesnt know he doesnt eat ::Meaning people dont like new things because they are unknown to them .
It will all be ok when people get usedn to the scripts
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im getting the hang of the new scripts. the crashing is still pretty annoying though also such text lag. still a greta job though not that i could do any better.
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There was a 2 week Public Beta test, and people did not have such timeouts, otherwise we would not have ended the test. But there were never more than 10 people on at a time. The thoughts were to go back to beta test. Problem: as there will again be just 10 people testing, we do not know if we are solving anything.
We already have increased stability and will continue to do so. In the mean time believe us that we are upset with every timeout more than the player....
Thats not true i've been on the beta server with about 20 people, but yes the timeouts and false kicks are geting les every day it'l be good in about 1 week i think. And with time come changes so adept to them :P