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Title: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on November 14, 2007, 01:28:13 am
Well, i was at walmart yesterday, and this caught my eye...

Well, is it good? or atleast good enough to Run BF2 with good graphics?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7779565
Processor Type:    Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core
Hard Drive Size:    500 GB
System RAM:    3072 MB
Operating System:    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
Model No.:   a6223w
Shipping Weight (in pounds):   26.8
Product in Inches (L x W x H):   23.0 x 19.6 x 9.64
Assembled in Country of Origin:   USA and/or Imported
Origin of Components:   USA and/or Imported
Wal-Mart No.:   000569858


:ps: What the fuck? it dosent come with a GFx card?
i cant find one...
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Neave on November 14, 2007, 01:29:42 am
What expansion slots are avalible? (PCI, PCIx1 PCIx16, AGP?)
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on November 14, 2007, 01:39:57 am
i woudlent know, cause Gay walmart, dosent post anything about it...
Posted on: November 14, 2007, 01:32:05 AM
ok , i went to te Hewlett and pakars site ( HP ) anbd found these

Motherboard description    Motherboard manufacturer's name: ECS MCP61PM-HM
HP/Compaq name: Nettle2-GL8E
CPU/Processor    Socket: AM2
Supports the following processors:
Athlon 64 X2 with Dual Core technology
Athlon 64
Sempron
Front-side bus (FSB)    2000MT/s (2.0 GT/s)
Chipset    NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
BIOS features    System BIOS core brand: Award
Keyboard combination to used to enter BIOS: F10
Form factor    Micro-ATX: 9.6 in X 9.6 in
Memory    Dual channel memory architecture
Four 240-pin DDR2 DIMM sockets
Supported DIMM types:
PC2-4200 (533 MHz)
PC2-5300 (667 MHz)
PC2-6400 (800 MHz)
Non-ECC memory only, unbuffered
Supports 2GB DDR2 DIMMs
Supports up to 8 GB on 64 bit PCs
Supports up to 4 GB* on 32 bit PCs

   NOTE:    *Actual available memory may be less.

Expansion slots    Two PCI
One PCI Express x16 graphics (for a graphics card)
One PCI Express x1 (for cards such as network, sound, tv-tuner)
Video graphics    Integrated graphics using nVidia GeForce 6150SE
Uses up to 256MB of PC memory (with 512MB or more total PC memory)
Also supports PCI Express x16 graphics cards*

   NOTE:    *Either integrated graphics or the PCI Express x16 slot are usable at one time; they are not usable concurrently.

Parallel ATA    One 40-pin UltraDMA 100/66/33 connector
Supports PIO, multi-word DMA modes
Supports two PATA disk drives on one PATA ribbon cable (two drives total)
Serial ATA    Four SATA connectors:
SATA1 = Black
SATA2 = White
SATA3 = Blue
SATA4 = Yellow


Supports 1 SATA-150 or SATA-300 disk drive on each SATA connector
Speed up to 1.5Gb/sec or 3.0Gb/sec, complying with SATA 1.0 and SATA 2.0 specifications

   NOTE:    The faster rate of 3.0Gb/sec requires that both the hard drive and the motherboard support it. If one or the other does not support 3.0 Gb/sec, the PC negotiates down to the slower 1.5 Gb/sec.

RAID    Some Nettle2 models ship with RAID (model dependent)
nVidia's onboard RAID solution is called nVidia MediaShield Storage
RAID modes supported*:
RAID 0
RAID 1

   NOTE:    RAID 5 and 10 are not supported by this motherboard.

Onboard audio    8 channel high-definition audio
Audio CODEC: ALC888S
Onboard LAN    PCI Realtek RTL8201N 10/100Mbps
Onboard USB    USB 2.0
Ten ports total
Four connectors on back panel
Four headers on motherboard support 6 additional ports/devices

   NOTE:    Some USB ports may not be available externally for customer use. For more information, see model specifications.

Onboard 1394    Type: IEEE 1394a 400Mb/s
VIA VT6307 controller chip
Two ports total
One port on back panel
One header on motherboard supporting one additional port/device
Back panel I/0    One PS/2 mouse port (green)
One PS/2 keyboard port (purple)
One Coaxial SPDIF out port
One VGA port
Four USB 2.0
One IEEE 1394a
One RJ-45 networking port
Six audio ports support 8-channel audio:
Line-in (light blue)
Microphone-in (pink)
Line-out (lime)
Center/Subwoofer-out (yellow-orange)
Side speaker-out (gray)
Rear speaker-out (black)
Internal connectors    One 24-pin ATX power connector
One 4-pin ATX power connector
One PATA connector
Four SATA connectors
One floppy drive connector
Two 12v fan connectors for CPU fan and PC fan
One 9-pin header for power button, reset button, power LED, and HDD LED
One SPDIF digital audio output header
One front line input connector (interrupts line input on back panel, Vista capable, requires matching front audio jack module)
One 9-pin audio header for headphone-out and microphone-in (yellow, Vista capable, requires matching front audio jack module)
Four USB headers supporting 6 additional USB 2.0 ports or devices
One 1394a header
One Intel high-definition Audio/Modem Link (not used by HP)
One jumper for resetting BIOS settings
One jumper to disable BIOS password checking
Posted on: November 14, 2007, 01:35:17 AM
Thats ugly....
Here is the site, its alot cleaner to veiw the specs

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01077676&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3548646&lang=en
Posted on: November 14, 2007, 01:36:21 AM
Eww :(
i think it has integrated Graphics...
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Neave on November 14, 2007, 01:44:53 am
$577.00
(before all applicable rebates) 
 CASE: Sigma Gaming Shark 9-Bay Gaming Tower 420W Case
CPU: (Socket AM2) AMD Athlonâ„¢64 X2 4600+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)Asus M2N-E SLI NVIDIA nForce 500 SLI MCP Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/GbLAN, IEEE1394, USB2.0, & 7.1Audio
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: None, or On-Board Radeon X1250-based Integrated Graphics
VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
LCD Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Extreme Performance (RAID-0) with 2 Identical Hard Drives (400GB (200GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: NONE
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO


+ (Pick any graphic card)
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on November 14, 2007, 01:50:38 am
is that a hint?

oh btw, whats that site again?
Posted on: November 14, 2007, 01:49:56 AM
ive been meaning to get a PC together, but i lost that site :(
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Neave on November 14, 2007, 01:50:40 am
CyberPowerPc.com Look at the top LEFT, AMD Configuration, 379$ Base price
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: ODSTHelljumper89 on November 14, 2007, 01:51:09 am
 They look great :D
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on November 14, 2007, 01:55:50 am
oh dude, i may be able to get the PC from that site around incometax time!
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: BlackBird on November 14, 2007, 02:02:20 am
CyberPowerPc.com Look at the top LEFT, AMD Configuration, 379$ Base price
Sickness that site is crap.
i bought a pc from there once and it broke down within the week i had it.
Just playing GTA on it thats it.
all the PC's are crap
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Neave on November 14, 2007, 02:03:23 am
Youre telling me?.. I configured the same PC on Dell and that website, Saved me $3000 and 4 weeks ship time
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: BlackBird on November 14, 2007, 02:04:50 am
Youre telling me?.. I configured the same PC on Dell and that website, Saved me $3000 and 4 weeks ship time
the pc i built on that site i hand built for half the price with better parts from tigerDirect.com
Sickness i know you think you know it all about pc's m8 but really........you dont.....
i know what im talking about
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Neave on November 14, 2007, 02:10:01 am
Yes.. i know not a lot about PC's Nice joke :)
Posted on: November 13, 2007, 08:06:28 PM
When you begin to correct the CSR's for a computer website (Dell, HP) Come back :)
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: BlackBird on November 14, 2007, 02:19:07 am
Yes.. i know not a lot about PC's Nice joke :)
Posted on: November 13, 2007, 08:06:28 PM
When you begin to correct the CSR's for a computer website (Dell, HP) Come back :)
i doubt that
and Dell and HP are crap pc's aswell

and i never said you didnt know alot.
i said you dont know everything

did it ever occurr to you that someone might actually know something you dont?

Oh wait....that would just mean you would actually have to be WRONG for once
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Neave on November 14, 2007, 02:20:59 am
lol?...
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on November 14, 2007, 02:21:48 am
Well, is this good for games like battlefield 2, Americas Army, Counterstrike, San Andreas?

$449.00
(before all applicable rebates)   
   CASE: ATX MEDIUM TOWER CASE 350 WATT (BLACK COLOR)
CPU: (Socket AM2) AMD Athlonâ„¢64 X2 4600+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)Asus M2A-VM AMD 690G Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/Radeon X1250 Graphic, GbLAN, IEEE1394, USB2.0, &7.1Audio
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE Turbo Cache supports up to 512MB PCI-Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
LCD Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: NONE
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

and stop fighting on who knows what and who dosent...


Actions, speak louder than words...
Also, Sickness is a reliable computer guy...
he does know alot
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Neave on November 14, 2007, 02:23:28 am
That video card is as good as onboard video cards :\ Nvidia just came otu with 7150 Onboard. I recommend ATLEAST 7600 or 8500 and 500 Watt PSU
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on November 14, 2007, 02:32:12 am
ok cool, thanks for the headsup.

Here are the specs, and its only for $500 before applicable rebates(whats that mean btw?)
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$501.00
(before all applicable rebates)
CASE: ATX MEDIUM TOWER CASE 350 WATT (BLACK COLOR)
CPU: (Socket AM2) AMD Athlonâ„¢64 X2 4600+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)Asus M2A-VM AMD 690G Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/Radeon X1250 Graphic, GbLAN, IEEE1394, USB2.0, &7.1Audio
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS 512MB PCI Express x16 (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
LCD Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (160GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: 16X DVD ROM (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: NONE
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

i think, its far better than that one i wanted...
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Neave on November 14, 2007, 02:39:34 am
Applicable means all possiable,
Posted on: November 13, 2007, 08:34:02 PM
Get a Nvidia Motherboard...
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on November 14, 2007, 02:42:50 am
Applicable means all possiable,
Posted on: November 13, 2007, 08:34:02 PM
Get a Nvidia Motherboard...

Like shipping?
( sorry, idk, lol )

ok, i added the
(Socket AM2)Asus M2N-E SLI NVIDIA nForce 500 SLI MCP Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/GbLAN,IEEE1394,USB2.0,&7.1Audio

and its only $509, cool :P
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Neave on November 14, 2007, 02:57:27 am
Rebates.. etc lol
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Watti on November 14, 2007, 07:25:58 am
ok SO ur gunna buya  computer with out looking at the System Specs for BF2 Jeez...

Look

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=====================================
System Requirements
=====================================

- Operating System
Windows XP (32 Bit Version)

- CPU
Battlefield 2 supports the following processors:
Intel Pentium 4
Intel Xeon
Intel Pentium Extreme Edition
Intel Celeron D
AMD Athlon XP
AMD Athlon 64
AMD Athlon 64-FX
AMD Sempron processor

- Minimum Specification:
CPU: 1.7 Ghz
RAM: 512 Mb
Video Card: NVidia GeForce FX 5700, ATI Radeon 8500 or ATI Radeon 9500
with 128 Mb of RAM

- Recommended Specification:
CPU: 2.4 Ghz
RAM: 1 Gb
Video Card with at least 256 Mb of RAM

- Video Cards
Battlefield 2 only supports the following video cards:
Radeon X700 (PCIe)
Radeon X600 (PCIe)
GeForce 6600 (PCIe)
GeForce PCX 5900 (PCIe)
GeForce 5800 Series (AGP)
ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition
ATI Radeon X800 PRO
ATI Radeon 9800 Series
ATI Radeon 9600 Series
ATI Radeon 9550 (RV350LX)
ATI Radeon 9500 / 9700 Series
ATI Radeon 8500 Series
ATI Radeon X300 Series
NVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra
NVidia GeForce 6800 GT
NVidia GeForce 6800
NVidia GeForce FX 5950 Series
NVidia GeForce FX 5900 Series
NVidia GeForce FX 5700 Series

=====================================
Improving Gameplay Performance
=====================================

Some machines will benefit from experimenting with your
Network / Video / Sound options:


INTERNET / NETWORK PERFORMANCE

This section is very important to experiencing good internet play!

- JOINING MULTIPLAYER GAMES:
To get the best performance on your computer we recommend
you follow these guidelines:

HARDWARE
Minimum system - Join servers that have up to 16 players

Recommended systems - Join servers that have up to 32 players

High end systems - Join servers that have up to 64 players

BANDWIDTH
ISDN users - Join games with a maximum of 16 players.

ADSL/Cable users - Join games with a maximum of 32 players.

T1/LAN users - Join games with a maximum of 64 players.

Please Hayden.. Consult All Guys Before Buying a PC.. u might Buy the Wrong Hardware...

The Knowledgeman, Watti
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on November 14, 2007, 07:11:03 pm
yes, ive looked at them -_-

Also, i wanted to get somthing that can run that game with no lag, and run better games...

Also, i think i will get this, maybe in Incometax times (in about 2-3 months!)
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: PMP on November 16, 2007, 01:08:21 am
damm, the dollar is rly down. you can buy pc's at the same price in there, but the dollar is almost at half.

BTW the model isn't available here which means it's US only.

LOL @ Walmart
Idk but in here we have supermarkets only for computing like vobis and worten and chip7 etc..
I don't usually buy tech stuff along with my monthly supplies, but what do I know, I live in Europe, theres no walmart here yet.

Has consumer I have one advice, warranty, always buy with warranty.
Title: Re: Is this a decent PC for $700?
Post by: Link on December 01, 2007, 06:07:28 am
http://IBuyPower.com

Cheap entry-level -- professional-level gaming computers. In most cases it's much cheaper to build your own computer. But IBuyPower.com is basically the same price as building your own. Just don't get an 8500GT (nVidia of course) or an X1650 GFX card. Make sure you get 2+ GB ram, and 2.2GHz + Processor. I suggest dual core (AMD 64 Athlon X2)
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