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Title: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Stivi on October 20, 2013, 11:13:50 am
So... Few weeks ago, my monitor burn down, I bought a new one and it was working fine until yesterday. While playing on  casino, the whole screen became yellow, the weapon slot was showing a fork, knife and a spun.
The nickname's above player's head were like "?aeaea/\_!" Inested of aeaeae was some arab letters I can't spell. But since that moment, my monitor was dis-organized. Today in the morning the monitor was working fine and when I opened SAMp, for some minutes it was workign and then it began not workign again.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img853/9554/0m3m.jpg)
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Rapper on October 20, 2013, 11:32:10 am
Please do not post off-topic messages. - Marcel
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Janar on October 20, 2013, 12:26:34 pm
Tried reinstalling graphics drivers? Any specific drivers for the display?
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Stivi on October 20, 2013, 02:37:38 pm
I don't know what drivers I have, I'm not good in PC stuff, but do you have any idea on what's causing this?
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Devin on October 20, 2013, 03:04:48 pm
Does this happen in any full-screen application/game or only when you open GTA?
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Bruce. on October 20, 2013, 07:32:46 pm
I spoke with stivi on the phone today and he told me that the problem is not only in SA:MP
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Stivi on October 21, 2013, 12:54:00 pm
The monitor only crashes when I open SAMP, didn't try ti with GTA, tbh.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: SugarD on October 21, 2013, 11:31:45 pm
Try it with single-player first, and let us know if it still happens.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Stivi on October 22, 2013, 01:30:49 pm
The monitor would be the same, I can't even look at it :/
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: SugarD on October 22, 2013, 03:15:46 pm
By any chance do you own any other GTA's in the III-era canon? If so, do they produce the same issue? Do any of your other games cause this? What mods do you have installed into your game?
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Kessu on October 22, 2013, 04:09:31 pm
According to the pic in the first post (if this is from the case) then it happens all the time, which means that either the monitor or the GPU is fecked.

Try to test your monitor in another PC, if it still happens you know it's at fault.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Devin on October 22, 2013, 05:50:44 pm
I would assume it's a GPU related problem looking at how the image is distorted, but then again the monitor can display similar images if it is faulty.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Bundy on October 22, 2013, 06:09:09 pm
You could always open up your PC and clean it up a bit, check if there are loose cables ect.
Don't blame it on your monitor right away, the chance is big it's your GPU.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Kessu on October 22, 2013, 06:18:37 pm
Mostly when GPU is fecked it'll give out colored lines and shit in totally random places, which isn't the case here. Here it is, from the looks of it, a completely messed up textures so I would lean towards the monitor being the cause rather than GPU.

EDIT: Never mind that, having a closer look up on the pic from my better monitor it has those fucked up colored lines.

Test the monitor in another PC to see if the problem persists. If it doesn't ur monitor is OK.
Then you can go and test your other PC with using another GPU in your PC (read; this at your own risk, the fault could be in PSU too).
If you can get this PC to be checked by "professionals" then go do so since it's a certain way to get it fixed and not break anything else with it. If you do this make backups of your harddrive.

Tho' do not understand this as "it can't be GPU" because it very well can be the GPU too.

Drivers won't help you at all if the problem already appears before the windows is even loaded.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: SugarD on October 23, 2013, 01:37:37 am
This is a long shot, but how hot is your computer getting? Any chance it could be overheating? How about dust inside of it? Dust can often bridge connections and cause problems, including damage to circuit boards. A few months ago I actually had a piece of dust land on my sound card and spark after it bridged two solder joints.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Caltson on October 23, 2013, 01:41:21 am
Most likely your Graphics card is overheating, thus causing this issue. Make sure it's cooling is still functioning properly and wether or not it's active or passive cooling.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: KelviNC on October 23, 2013, 03:49:57 am
Most likely your Graphics card is overheating, thus causing this issue. Make sure it's cooling is still functioning properly and wether or not it's active or passive cooling.

He is correct. Just do one thing, try to arange one porrable fan, switch on the PC and put the near the graphic car. This will help to cool the graphic car.

One question, is your PC in such corner where you can't get wind? If so, just try your best to move it in the middle or a place where you can get wind.

And one more thing, if it does not work, just try to switch the ports of the vier, which is connected to the moniter.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Kessu on October 23, 2013, 04:09:19 am
Adding a cooler to specifically blow the air at your GPU can f**k up your case's air cooling system, which can do more harm than good. Yes, it may lower the heat in the GPU, but do consider your other parts too. CPU is above GPU trying to blow the air out, if you have a fan blowing upwise towards your GPU, obviously it will also blow the hot air from the CPU back at it rather than away from it.  Then again, if you have a fan miraculously put between the CPU and the GPU to blow the air towards your GPU, it'll take the hot air from the CPU and blow it to your GPU which, surprisingly enough, is not a good thing considering you're trying to cool it down.

Computer cases have a air cooling system designed in them already, adding a cooler where it does not belong will do more harm than good in the long run if you do not know what you're doing.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Leroy_Kolta on October 23, 2013, 04:28:30 am
Me, being a certified Systems Engineer I can say that A) its your monitor or B) its your graphics card(GPU)
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Bruce. on October 23, 2013, 07:32:42 am
Me, being a certified Systems Engineer I can say that A) its your monitor or B) its your graphics card(GPU)

I think its the GPU that got f**ked up,cause he tried the monitor in another PC and it worked perfectly.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Stivi on October 23, 2013, 01:30:44 pm
It's the GPU's fault. I don't really get handy on this, so... Anyone knows how to remove it, if possible so i can cool it ? It's been two days that the GPU is not being used. How much time does it need to cool off ?
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Devin on October 23, 2013, 01:50:33 pm
A GPU won't retain heat like a stone left in the sun, if it's off for an hour or two it would be relatively cool within that time-frame.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Kessu on October 23, 2013, 02:06:45 pm
It's the GPU's fault. I don't really get handy on this, so... Anyone knows how to remove it, if possible so i can cool it ? It's been two days that the GPU is not being used. How much time does it need to cool off ?
If you can try to test another GPU in your PC (AFTER cleaning the PC from dust) to see if it's really at fault (read; use some shitty GPU that is little to no importance to you incase if PSU is fecked)
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: SugarD on October 27, 2013, 02:06:42 am
Adding a cooler to specifically blow the air at your GPU can f**k up your case's air cooling system, which can do more harm than good. Yes, it may lower the heat in the GPU, but do consider your other parts too. CPU is above GPU trying to blow the air out, if you have a fan blowing upwise towards your GPU, obviously it will also blow the hot air from the CPU back at it rather than away from it.  Then again, if you have a fan miraculously put between the CPU and the GPU to blow the air towards your GPU, it'll take the hot air from the CPU and blow it to your GPU which, surprisingly enough, is not a good thing considering you're trying to cool it down.

Computer cases have a air cooling system designed in them already, adding a cooler where it does not belong will do more harm than good in the long run if you do not know what you're doing.
That also depends on your setup. Some custom-built or unusual pre-built systems will have the air flow going in different directions, (or more commonly with cheaper pre-built companies, the system won't have any air flow path defined at all).

As long as you are not disrupting your existing cooling system, you should be fine to try using a fan on it. I would highly recommend, though, that you use one large enough to cover the entire computer. I would also recommend that it be a fan with enough power to push the hot air back out of the system, since you would be effectively countering the air flow path otherwise. Most standard table fans (http://www.chinatraderonline.com/Files/home-appliance/electrical-fan/16inch-table-fan-23464154025.jpg) in a decent size should be good enough to do this.


Just remember, this should not be used as a permanent solution. If your system has cooling problems, you need to address them right away before you damage the computer.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Devin on October 27, 2013, 11:13:46 am
An average computer should never require a household fan for cooling, especially if the case already has pre-installed fans.
The only time it would require more cooling is if there happens to be a hardware issue which is limiting/disrupting the standard cooling techniques/methods.
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: SugarD on October 28, 2013, 01:01:12 am
An average computer should never require a household fan for cooling, especially if the case already has pre-installed fans.
The only time it would require more cooling is if there happens to be a hardware issue which is limiting/disrupting the standard cooling techniques/methods.
Or if the hardware manufacturer is very cheap, such as the case with many Dell computers. :P
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Bruce. on October 28, 2013, 01:08:32 am
Hey guys,i just want to tell that stivi changed his GPU since the old one was fucked up,yeah it was not the monitor problem but GPU problem which is now solved.

I guess stivi want to close this topic but anyway let him make the decisiound :D
Title: Re: Monitor gone wild on SAMP!
Post by: Stivi on October 28, 2013, 06:36:43 am
RIP englizsh

Lock please.

Thanks for the help!
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