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Argonath RPG Community => Hardware/Software support => Resolved issues => Topic started by: Khm on October 23, 2013, 12:55:10 am
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Hello argonthians
So when I lunch Gta iv ONLY then start playing some minutes, the laptop stops working so I force shut down it.
This started happening to me few weeks ago if I open and use so many programmes but no idea why.
Also in those few days when I open my laptop it says that it need recommonded hard drive check and I have ten seconds to type anything to cancel the check and removal od somethings. So here I am asking help.
Thanks in advance.
P.s You will notice some wronf words because I am sleepy.
CPU: INTEL CORE i7
RAM: 8GB
HARD DRIVE: 1TR
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Not sure what the Exact problem is but do the Hard Drive check when it appears. I had the same problem with my Laptop, To be honest(Speaking from personal experience) please dont use a Laptop for Gaming, you can play gta sa but i dont think GTA IV is suitable for laptops; Also try updating your graphics drivers(not sure if this is the problem) because sometimes when your graphics driver crash it makes your laptop hang, and also from my knowledge of processors, Intel CORE i7 is never supposed to hang or force you to you force quit your PC/Laptop, i7 has extra buses which carry data when your normal buses dont have enough space to run programs, this means that you probably have unnecessary programs running somewhere in your Laptop
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Same us my IRL friends said but about this unnecessary programs I got told to force stop somethings via (in french) gestion de tâches. Also I don't have space to get a big computer so I am forced to use laptop. I got told also to formate the lap since I have windows 7 home editions and then replace it with the professional one.
Still need more ideas/solutions.
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Same us my IRL friends said but about this unnecessary programs I got told to force stop somethings via (in french) gestion de tâches. Also I don't have space to get a big computer so I am forced to use laptop. I got told also to formate the lap since I have windows 7 home editions and then replace it with the professional one.
Still need more ideas/solutions.
Hmm, as stated, dont use Laptop for GTA IV, and ye re-installing windows might help, and try installing the same version as it now, if you have Home premium, install Home premium.
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But it already got formated. I don't think it's window's fault since everything is new in the laptop. And as I said i am forced to use a it (laptop). Those things weren't in it.
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Does your laptop overheat?, thats the only problem coming in my mind, try not to get you laptop heated up.
And wait, do you only have to force shutdown when you're playin IV. If yes, then theres something wrong with the game, I think it takes to much of your memory. Does your laptop have specs which can handle IV?
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What is your current operating system? Windows 7 home basic or home premium? And is it 32bit or 64bit?
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Does your laptop overheat?, thats the only problem coming in my mind, try not to get you laptop heated up.
And wait, do you only have to force shutdown when you're playin IV. If yes, then theres something wrong with the game, I think it takes to much of your memory. Does your laptop have specs which can handle IV?
Not only for it and no it doesn't take a big space from my memory
What is your current operating system? Windows 7 home basic or home premium? And is it 32bit or 64bit?
Windows 7 home premium 64 bit.
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Khm, hey there. I read your problem and I need answer for a question. The question is that, did you tried to re-install the windows again and again, in some few days?
And one more thing, if you have any type of mod just try to remove that, which you think are really high, besides your "PC's Configuration".
Then try the game, and post the summary over here.
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http://www.gta4-mods.com/misc/my-commandline-configurations-v10-f12010
Use the low configuration commandline.txt, place it in your GTA IV Directory.
Because GTA IV was the worst port to PC, Even high end computers have trouble running it!
Other than that, try updating your drivers including Chipset, GPU.
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Khm, hey there. I read your problem and I need answer for a question. The question is that, did you tried to re-install the windows again and again, in some few days?
And one more thing, if you have any type of mod just try to remove that, which you think are really high, besides your one.
Then try the game, and post the summary over here.
Nope
http://www.gta4-mods.com/misc/my-commandline-configurations-v10-f12010
Use the low configuration commandline.txt, place it in your GTA IV Directory.
Because GTA IV was the worst port to PC, Even high end computers have trouble running it!
Other than that, try updating your drivers including Chipset, GPU.
I will check them but it doesn't happen for only GTA IV it does when I run about 10 applications (chrome TS skype samp Bandycam ect...)
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I will check them but it doesn't happen for only GTA IV it does when I run about 10 applications (chrome TS skype samp Bandycam ect...)
I think, as you are syaing that the windows is not able to pick more then 10 application at one time, you might be having some problem with your HARDDRIVE/HARDDISK.
Just do one thing, try to update your drivers including Chipset, GPU.
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I think, as you are syaing that the windows is not able to pick more then 10 application at one time, you might be having some problem with your HARDDRIVE/HARDDISK.
Just do one thing, try to update your drivers including Chipset, GPU.
I will check it but I already changed the harddrive 3 months ago and it's working perfectly.
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As KelviNC said, update your drivers. Run Windows Update too. You already stated that you formatted and started off fresh, so you need to re-add all of the updates you are missing, including to your drivers and OS themselves. Windows 7 also had a number of compatibility updates that were released for various games, both old and new. I would also recommend checking to make sure you have the latest patch for GTA IV installed.
If none of that works, do as Axison said, and monitor the heat of the computer while playing the game. I'm sure the system heats up a bit when opening it, (as all systems tend to), but how hot it is getting will define whether that is the issue or not. Remember, laptops have all of their parts confined together in a very tiny space. Heat cannot escape well from inside of a laptop, and it tends to build up and get even hotter. With this in mind, your system may just be getting so hot that it locks up, being unable to process anything because it has been slowed down so much by the heat.
Also, what other system specs do you have? So far you haven't told us very much about your system, so we cannot give you anything much more specific to your issue without it. It may just be that your system is not built to handle GTA IV, and it is freezing because it cannot keep up with processing everything at once.
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I am now about to update right now and will tell the results.
About other descriptions about the pc there are some....:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20GHz
System type: 64-bit Operation System
more descriptions are here (http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satellite-A665-3DV-TruBrite-15-6-Inch/dp/B003N2P0AC#productDetails) and here (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/06/toshiba-a665-laptop-plays-3d-blu-ray-and-games/)
But the harddrive is about 1TR.
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People seem to forget there's a thing called "Events Log". Valuable info lies in there.
Play a game, wait for it to freeze/hang, and look at the time, and memorize it. After you turn the laptop back on, press Start and type "event". In the results you'll see "event viewer". Open it, and then collapse "Windows Logs", then click on System.
You'll see a bunch of events that are sorted by time. If you were quick about restarting the laptop you won't have a hard time finding what we're looking for. Scroll down till you reach the time of the freeze/hang. If it's serious (and it should be), you should find an event with a high warning level (red sign).
Read what it says and copy-paste it here. It might give us some information on what may be going on with your laptop.
Tip: Download CoreTemp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/), and install/launch it. When your laptop freezes (if you're not in a full screen game), check your CPU's temperature.
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I will try this too.
@Sugar: I did everything you said, nothing happend.
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The previous system shutdown at 11:53:15 on ‎28/‎10/‎2013 was unexpected
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000116 (0xfffffa800c9824e0, 0xfffff8800fc7053c, 0xffffffffc000009a, 0x0000000000000004). A dump was saved in: C:\windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 102813-30373-01.
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
The speed of processor 7 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. The processor has been in this reduced performance state for 71 seconds since the last report.
The speed of processor 5 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. The processor has been in this reduced performance state for 71 seconds since the last report.
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The previous system shutdown at 11:53:15 on ‎28/‎10/‎2013 was unexpected
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000116 (0xfffffa800c9824e0, 0xfffff8800fc7053c, 0xffffffffc000009a, 0x0000000000000004). A dump was saved in: C:\windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 102813-30373-01.
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
The speed of processor 7 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. The processor has been in this reduced performance state for 71 seconds since the last report.
The speed of processor 5 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. The processor has been in this reduced performance state for 71 seconds since the last report.
The first one is a total "no shit, sherlock" thing that we could tell to the PC. It just tells you that the PC got shut down in abnormal means.
The second and third, though... uhh... do you have your laptop set on power saving mode?
Also, don't forget to do this:
Tip: Download CoreTemp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/), and install/launch it. When your laptop freezes (if you're not in a full screen game), check your CPU's temperature.
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Hello KHM! I will advice you re-install the window, it will definitely solve your problem.
PS : If you say that there is some important data in your PC, just take it in the USB, and re-install the windows.
I will advice yo to go some nearby computer shop, and get your hard disk checked.
I think, as you are syaing that the windows is not able to pick more then 10 application at one time, you might be having some problem with your HARDDRIVE/HARDDISK.
Just do one thing, try to update your drivers including Chipset, GPU.
One more thing, if you have already re-install your windows, don't try to do it again, or it will harm your hard disk. And remember to do the thing as Ragdoll as, it will be really usefull.
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I will do that asap since I am very busy right now. And no it's not on power saving mode.
At Kelvin: The problem is that I formated it recently.
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Hello KHM! I will advice you re-install the window, it will definitely solve your problem.
Guys.. THIS ^ is not always the right thing to do. If we re-install Windows everytime we get into a pickle we won't know what the problems we have actually are.
Even the hard disk check isn't necessary since, judging by the error message, it's software slowing down the processor.
Khm, what motherboard do you have?
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No idea
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Bad advice often turns out to be more harmful than no advice to begin with.
Sure formatting and re-installing may solve it for now, and then what if it occurs again? Re-install?
You need to find out what's causing it, whether it's all of your adult material you are hiding away, unnecessary applications wasting resources and causing havoc or a hardware fault.
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No idea
Try to find out. (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/How-to-Find-Out-Your-Motherboards-Manufacturer-and-Model/236)
Bad advice often turns out to be more harmful than no advice to begin with.
Sure formatting and re-installing may solve it for now, and then what if it occurs again? Re-install?
You need to find out what's causing it, whether it's all of your adult material you are hiding away, unnecessary applications wasting resources and causing havoc or a hardware fault.
Exactly my point. And the mere fact that this has happened after a format tells me it could be the software that comes with the motherboard, even if it's a laptop.
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I will do that asap since I am very busy right now.
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Can't find it :/
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Can't find it :/
Run a program called CPU-Z and take screen shots of every page of it it will tell us more about your mobo and other specs