Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Gandalf on November 16, 2013, 11:52:55 am
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In our series today I will give a first look at the criminal world.
One that has often been seen as forgotten by the developers, and that has been given a special amount of attention.
Being a criminal on Argonath is not the standard action movie criminal. You know, the one that talks tough and draws a gun at everything. Unfortunately for move fans, such criminals would never survive longer than a week. So how do we see a criminal?
We see a criminal as someone who enjoys taking risks. Risks that can bring a higher profit as the daily work of a citizen. but that also can cost a lot more when it goes wrong. This is what we have incorporated in to RS5.
First of all if you wish to become (or remain) rich as criminal going on a killing spree is not the best thing to do. For every person you kill the price you pay when caught or killed goes higher. This means that killing a lot of people will simply cost you a lot of money.
However it gets worse, as you will see further.
Crime familes are an important part. And some of the families have a standing that puts them above others, the official families.
Official families will get a state funded headquarter. Also they get the possibility to export drugs, thus keeping the market alive.
And their HQ is protected from being disowned. Disowned? Yes, more about that later.
The wallet system is created to let families be able to share the wealth or give someone money to do a job. And a group will be able to have a group bank account from which all members can obtain a card. Alsoe finally there can be cars linked to a group.
But the money making is not limited to things like drugs. In fact the making of money might be more from being the 'roof' of regular business.
If a group protects a business, the group earns from all money made by that business. This means that the more business is stimulated by a group, the more money they get.
Also a group can control an area. This way all business in the area will be controlled by them.
But there is a catch. After all the idea is to remain invisible for the law. That means that if the group members are killing a lot of others, the ARPD and FBI will get the right to issue a warrant. Depending on how high the number of kills is, this can vary from removing control over an area or business to disowning the properties of the group.
So choose your members carefully.
As groups tend to fight between each other, if a full scale war breaks out over the control of an rea or property, there is a way to settle this. By scripted gang war the winner will receive what is at stake. And the advantage of fighting a scripted war is that the kills will not be noticed by the law, and not count towards the score. Want to fight outside the script ? No problem but remember what it can lead to.
As there will be a limitation to official families, this also gives them a responsibility. This means that it is possible for a family to lose their official status should they be found largely inactive or being abusive of their status. If that happens their state issued HQ will turn in to a normal one, and they lose the possibility to be exporting drugs.
Before RS5 comes out, the current families will be reviewed and the official ones will be set based on current activity.
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So much you wrote :o
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Excited! :)
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Big big changes, Cant wait to test all that out, Seems pretty cool :)
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This system actually sounds pretty awesome.
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Awesome.
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Awsome tutorial.
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This looks Awesome!
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If official families control all the beautiful and magnificient properties which will indeed be given by state. What should others do,"Stop dreaming about owning them"? Tats kinda unfair. I suggest the big properties be not given as a state hq freely. And the possibilities of exporting drugs simply state that they will be billionares soon and the other properties will be taken by them.
P.S. Every thing seems perfect except this imperfection.
Signed,
Manaz.
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If official families control all the beautiful and magnificient properties which will indeed be given by state. What should others do,"Stop dreaming about owning them"? Tats kinda unfair. I suggest the big properties be not given as a state hq freely. And the possibilities of exporting drugs simply state that they will be billionares soon and the other properties will be taken by them.
P.S. Every thing seems perfect except this imperfection.
Signed,
Manaz.
They worked their asses off in RS3/4, why should they lose them ? Some random lotto winner will buy it and the interest is lost, aswell as the "challenge for the veterans".
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Official families will get a state funded headquarter. Also they get the possibility to export drugs, <another huge text>
State owned headquarter, or the money will be given to the leader ? What does "export drugs" mean ?
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They worked their asses off in RS3/4, why should they lose them ? Some random lotto winner will buy it and the interest is lost, aswell as the "challenge for the veterans".
So not a shit to be given to new commers?
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Interesting..
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The more people you kill equals more money lost is a good deterrent for those who want to kill as many people as possible, think twice about what's at stake.
Only right that official groups do re-acquire their HQ's back, they are pretty much landmarks in their own right. More even having their own group vehicles that every member can use and possibly restrict(?) to certain ranks is a big bonus.
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If official families control all the beautiful and magnificient properties which will indeed be given by state. What should others do,"Stop dreaming about owning them"? Tats kinda unfair. I suggest the big properties be not given as a state hq freely. And the possibilities of exporting drugs simply state that they will be billionares soon and the other properties will be taken by them.
P.S. Every thing seems perfect except this imperfection.
Signed,
Manaz.
You got it wrong.
Official families get only their headquarters state funded. No one said they get all the properties for free. Who knows, maybe the headquarter price is also only 50% funded.
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This system actually sounds pretty awesome.
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Sounds awesome.
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It sounds great, it shows how all the developers have been working and thinking for the RS5, and I appreciate it.
I hope this system doesn't disadvantage 'small' groups and advantage 'big' groups.
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I guess it actually disadvantage big groups in a way that they have more members so they have to be more careful on what they members are doing. It has to be pretty hard to keep an eye on 50 members.
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It is designed to make people think who they accept, as well as removing the need to labe new groups as 'DM' as they will run out of money and properties that way.
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I guess it actually disadvantage big groups in a way that they have more members so they have to be more careful on what they members are doing. It has to be pretty hard to keep an eye on 50 members.
It is designed to make people think who they accept, as well as removing the need to labe new groups as 'DM' as they will run out of money and properties that way.
That sounds good :)
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Question: Would this not encourage people, who get denied from your regular groups due to too much killing going on, to create their own groups where they wouldn't mind that? ie, actually promoting creation of groups of no other purpose than to get people together who enjoy pewpew a bit too much? Sure, money would stop them, but that can be made. That said, how much exactly would you have to pay for each kill? :P
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If they create group with the only purpose to go around and kill people, I guess they will be removed from the server pretty quickly.
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Question: Would this not encourage people, who get denied from your regular groups due to too much killing going on, to create their own groups where they wouldn't mind that? ie, actually promoting creation of groups of no other purpose than to get people together who enjoy pewpew a bit too much? Sure, money would stop them, but that can be made. That said, how much exactly would you have to pay for each kill? :P
There have always been groups who take in those that like to shoot more. And in RS4 that did not cost you anything being a group. This is where it gets different. A group that is constantly killing will not just have to spend a fortune on fines and weapons. They will eventually lose their stored weapons and drugs, and in the end be homeless.
By that time they might understand that if they want their group to rise to power, another way of playing would be more successful.
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Things will change a bit in RS5, but the essence will stay the same...
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well i think the idea is good eh, this will reduce the number of criminals around keep it up! :app:
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Awesome Ronnel.... :app:
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Well... You guys (the last two) seems to be cop! Rember that without 'criminals' you have no work! :)
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Well... You guys (the last two) seems to be cop! Rember that without 'criminals' you have no work! :)
Cops don't just hunt suspects. Or let me rephrase that: proper cops don't. Patrolling needs to happen too, regular RPs that don't end in suspection or tickets.
Traffic stops will start happening again, which allows for many forms of RP (other than people just driving off carelessly, evade for 20 minutes and gone).
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Cops don't just hunt suspects. Or let me rephrase that: proper cops don't. Patrolling needs to happen too, regular RPs that don't end in suspection or tickets.
Traffic stops will start happening again, which allows for many forms of RP (other than people just driving off carelessly, evade for 20 minutes and gone).
When was the last time you were looking for that hidden box of donuts?
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Had plenty of patrols like that, munching away donut after donut. Didn't catch a lot of criminals, but sure as hell had a lot of fun. :lol:
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Corrupt cop is fun as hell as well.