Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Hardware/Software support => Resolved issues => Topic started by: Xavier12 on November 23, 2013, 04:35:32 pm
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Alright guys so hello how you all doing out there?! :)
As you can read the topic title i am sure you have understood what i am saying.
Ok i am really confused and have been searching webs trying to kill ky confusion about processor,graphic card and the mother board.You guys can look at previous topics that my proce range was around 850$ but niw its 1350$.
Here are some of components i like to buy
1. Asus maximus formula VI motherboard
2.i7 4770k
3.Gtx 680 2gb
People say that i7 3930k is faster in gaming,well i can see its 650$ while 4770k is just for 388$.I know Haswell seems Hasfail LOL.I want to run total new games like BF4 in ultra setting.Opinions required.NO BULLSHIT.
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Alright
1.Case: Preferably some Coolermaster looking good.
2.Power: A PSU at least 750w or else 1000w (Don't think this one will be economy on electricity though)
3.CPU: i7 4770k with some after-market cooler in order to get this even higher with some OC.
4.MB: Gigabyte Z87x, don't know what price you could get this for.
5.RAM: Corsair Vegeance kits 1600, you can go 4x4, 2x8 or 2x4.. price varies
6.HDD: If your budget can handle get an SSD for the operating system and another SATA3 most likely enough would be 1TB for rest files you'd use.
else;
Motherboard Gigabyte Z87X-OC, LGA 1150, Intel Z87 Express $200
Processor Intel Core i5-4670K: 3.4 GHz Base Clock Rate, 3.8 GHz Maximum Turbo Boost, 6 MB Shared L3 Cache $240
Heat Sink Corsair H50 Liquid Cooling System $55
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1866 Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R $70
Graphics Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2 GB 256-bit GDDR5 $400
System Drive Samsung 840 MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120 GB SATA 6Gb/s (SSD) $100
Storage Drive WD Blue WD10EZEX 1 TB, 7200 RPM, 64 MB Cache, SATA 6Gb/s$70
Optical Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD Burner $22
Case Antec GX 700 ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $55
Power Corsair 650TX 650 W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Bronze Modular PSU $90
Total Cost $1302
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else;
Motherboard Gigabyte Z87X-OC, LGA 1150, Intel Z87 Express $200
Processor Intel Core i5-4670K: 3.4 GHz Base Clock Rate, 3.8 GHz Maximum Turbo Boost, 6 MB Shared L3 Cache $240
Heat Sink Corsair H50 Liquid Cooling System $55
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1866 Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R $70
Graphics Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2 GB 256-bit GDDR5 $400
System Drive Samsung 840 MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120 GB SATA 6Gb/s (SSD) $100
Storage Drive WD Blue WD10EZEX 1 TB, 7200 RPM, 64 MB Cache, SATA 6Gb/s$70
Optical Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD Burner $22
Case Antec GX 700 ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $55
Power Corsair 650TX 650 W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Bronze Modular PSU $90
Total Cost $1302
Alright it seems good to have gtx 770 2gb :) and a system just 1300$.But that ant gx 700 atx mid tower isnt beautiful but its very cheap though.How its airflow?more negative or positive?.Why not asus maximus formula vi?
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2.Power: A PSU at least 750w or else 1000w (Don't think this one will be economy on electricity though)
Nobody will ever need that much unless you are running Quad SLI. Even 450w is enough for a Titan
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System Drive Samsung 840 MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120 GB SATA 6Gb/s (SSD) $100
Don't know what that one is exactly but I suggest 840 PRO or 840 EVO series, best for the price on the market currently.
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Case Antec GX 700 ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $55
That case is quite cheapo ass....could get alot better ones.
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Power Corsair 650TX 650 W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Bronze Modular PSU $90
Once again could get alot better for the price than some shitty Corsair 80 Plus Bronze...
Oh and please for the love of god...dont call a 1300$ system "extreme"...
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Mr fuzzy for the love of god i want to tell you that most of its component are just temporary which means that i will replace them with better components over time(approx 3 months).If i go in detail,i will replace i7 4770k with its extreme edition when it will hit the market,ram will be upgraded to 16gb,dual gtx 770 will be installed.So pleaee dont be sarcastic or what.
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Oh yeah mr fuzzy i forgot to add something that i am gonna buy asus rog tytan after 1.5 year.So :hah:
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Haswell-E's are not coming for not months yet and you would need a LGA2011 socket motherboard for that. And last time I checked there is no Titan's in ROG series of Asus. Also, why would you put two 770's in SLI and THEN buy a Titan? Seems like a waste of money, big time.
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http://www.asus.com/Desktops/ROG_TYTAN_G30AB/
Here is one example of tytan series.Btw its tytan not "titan".And 2 gtx770 and then getting a tytan seems a waste of money?"for the love of god" please dont care about my money wastage,i can put 2000$ more into my pc but i am not so theres some reason behind it.Dont you ask about it.And thank you for your help mr.fuzzy,now you may not post any suggestions on this topic since its kind of trash to me.I know forums rule regarding what i just wrote.
P.S KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN.
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now you may not post any suggestions on this topic since its kind of trash to me.I know forums rule regarding what i just wrote.
If you know the rules, then please follow them and don't tell people to get out of your topic. If you have any issues with his posts being seen as rulebreaking, please use the report function. Otherwise, feel free to discuss the problem POLITELY, as you began to do, instead of throwing it back in his face. We are all here to help, and if someone decides to take advantage of that to attack you, then let us know so we can handle it appropriately. The same goes for everyone here.
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That's nowhere near an 'extreme' gaming PC. More like a mid high range.
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mid-high range pc's are the best, crystal clear graphics give me eye strains over long periods of time
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Anyway, this is what's called EXTREME!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Best-Gaming-PC-SLINKY-SUPERCOMPUTER-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-Quad-SLI-/300905943892
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Alright how about buying gtx 780 ti 3gb with i7 4770k?.Is cpu bottleneck?i prefrr to buy haf x chasis with 2 120mm fans on top and some 2 fans front and 3 fans at the back.Dont know if corsair or cooler master hydro series would be perfect for cpu to keep it cool.Asus maximus motyer board are necessary or what for gaming?.8gb corsair vengenace dual channel 2300mhz good?.should i buy lights for the chasis and fan controlling bay device too?i know it reacher around 1700$ but i am left with no choices but to spend that much.Looking for answers.
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Alright how about buying gtx 780 ti 3gb with i7 4770k?.Is cpu bottleneck?i prefrr to buy haf x chasis with 2 120mm fans on top and some 2 fans front and 3 fans at the back.Dont know if corsair or cooler master hydro series would be perfect for cpu to keep it cool.Asus maximus motyer board are necessary or what for gaming?.8gb corsair vengenace dual channel 2300mhz good?.should i buy lights for the chasis and fan controlling bay device too?i know it reacher around 1700$ but i am left with no choices but to spend that much.Looking for answers.
I thought you said mid-high not ultra..
should i buy lights for the chasis
no, don't put anything glossy on your PC, it's a machine not a barbie doll.
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no, don't put anything glossy on your PC, it's a machine not a barbie doll.
Some people like customizing their cases. There are several very large case/system modding communities out there. I'm a part of several of them, and every computer I have is customized. Even my grandfather's old system that was new in 1996. :lol:
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Some people may enjoy customizing and decorating their computers which at the end of the day is a waste of money.
However when one is on a tight budget the last thing you should be considering is decorating the computer, it's there for a purpose not to sit as an ornament on your desk.
By all means, if you have the extra money to waste on something you don't need for the system to function then do that but only if you really want to waste the cash and you have the extra cash to spend on things like lights and other extra items.
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Some people may enjoy customizing and decorating their computers which at the end of the day is a waste of money.
However when one is on a tight budget the last thing you should be considering is decorating the computer, it's there for a purpose not to sit as an ornament on your desk.
By all means, if you have the extra money to waste on something you don't need for the system to function then do that but only if you really want to waste the cash and you have the extra cash to spend on things like lights and other extra items.
Not all customizations are useless wastes of money. Some are functional, and some even replace existing parts within the system to help them function better. Take liquid cooling as an example. Temperature gauges too.
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Not all customizations are useless wastes of money. Some are functional, and some even replace existing parts within the system to help them function better. Take liquid cooling as an example. Temperature gauges too.
Did you just compare Liquid Cooling to LED lights? Yeah no crap some customizations are good but visual costumizations are a waste of money, some times make your computer look badass but still a waste of money, why waste it on LED lights, waste it on more RAM/ bigger SSD or even a better graphics card.
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Did you just compare Liquid Cooling to LED lights? Yeah no crap some customizations are good but visual costumizations are a waste of money, some times make your computer look badass but still a waste of money, why waste it on LED lights, waste it on more RAM/ bigger SSD or even a better graphics card.
It's rather obvious that he refers to liquid cooling having LED lights instead of liquid cooling to LED lights.
Extra LED lights outside of fans/cooling systems overall are a waste of cash.
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Still looking for answers.Btw which one is hetter? Gtx 780ti or amd 7990?.I know amdcosts 300$ more.
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Extra LED lights outside of fans/cooling systems overall are a waste of cash.
Some of them are cheaper or equal in price to the standard fans themselves. :P
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Still looking for answers.Btw which one is hetter? Gtx 780ti or amd 7990?.I know amdcosts 300$ more.
GTX 780Ti if you can afford it.
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GTX 780Ti if you can afford it.
I can afford amd 7990 too.But i have tested 7990 fps on bf4 and i only get fps around 80-130 while on gtx 780 ti i get 60-110 On ultra(every thing).
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I can afford amd 7990 too.But i have tested 7990 fps on bf4 and i only get fps around 80-130 while on gtx 780 ti i get 60-110 On ultra(every thing).
AMD is made for gaming, it has way faster graphics cards, but Nvidia is made for general PCs because it has really quick rendering and everything, I am an AMD fanboy and I can safely tell you to go with the 780ti, you get lower FPS because you are getting way more options, like PhysX which doesn't exsist on the AMD..
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AMD is made for gaming, it has way faster graphics cards, but Nvidia is made for general PCs because it has really quick rendering and everything, I am an AMD fanboy and I can safely tell you to go with the 780ti, you get lower FPS because you are getting way more options, like PhysX which doesn't exsist on the AMD..
But amd 7990 has eye finity and crossfire teknology.Look gtx 690 is also of the samr price as amd 7990.
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I highly doubt you will ever crossfire a 7990 let alone have enough power to run two in crossfire.
Sure the 7990 will out-perform the GTX 780 Ti but what do you expect when the GTX 780 Ti only has 3GB of memory whilst the 7990 has 6GB.
I hope you realise you will need a rather large power supply to support the 7990 too, the minimum power supply listed for a 7990 is a 750 Watt which has 2x 150 Watt 8-pin PCI Express power connectors.
With that being said, you still need to power the rest of the computer such as CPU and physical drives which will end up meaning you need a power supply in the range of 1000 watts or higher to be safe.
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I highly doubt you will ever crossfire a 7990 let alone have enough power to run two in crossfire.
Sure the 7990 will out-perform the GTX 780 Ti but what do you expect when the GTX 780 Ti only has 3GB of memory whilst the 7990 has 6GB.
I hope you realise you will need a rather large power supply to support the 7990 too, the minimum power supply listed for a 7990 is a 750 Watt which has 2x 150 Watt 8-pin PCI Express power connectors.
With that being said, you still need to power the rest of the computer such as CPU and physical drives which will end up meaning you need a power supply in the range of 1000 watts or higher to be safe.
Think about crossfiring thar beast, now that would use a fuckton of power..
go with the 780Ti and not the 690, 780ti is currently the 2.nd best graphics card out there
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I can afford amd 7990 too.But i have tested 7990 fps on bf4 and i only get fps around 80-130 while on gtx 780 ti i get 60-110 On ultra(every thing).
As I read somewhere, BF4 is optimised for AMD GPUs, so expect higher FPS. Same goes for Nvidia too, some games are optimised for Nvidia.
But amd 7990 has eye finity and crossfire teknology.Look gtx 690 is also of the samr price as amd 7990.
The crossfire equivalent of Nvidia is SLI, you can always do that. I am sure Nvidia has something for eyefinity.
Look at this review - http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/62213-nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti-vs-amd-radeon-r9-290x-4k/
The GTX 780 Ti stands toe to toe with the R9 290X, almost beating it in full HD gaming, and even sometimes giving equivalent or better results in UHD gaming. So I am sure it performs better than the AMD 7990.
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The same graphic card war xD.Dunno why 7990 cists 300$ then.I just need single hard answer on this grafik war.
Lets talk about ram now.I have decided to put corsair 4x2
Gb dual channel memory vengenace (2400mhz) which costs 124$.Is it good?
Which PSU do you guys prefer.I wamt a silent and a cool one around 100 to 115$.
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The same graphic card war xD.Dunno why 7990 cists 300$ then.I just need single hard answer on this grafik war.
Lets talk about ram now.I have decided to put corsair 4x2
Gb dual channel memory vengenace (2400mhz) which costs 124$.Is it good?
Which PSU do you guys prefer.I wamt a silent and a cool one around 100 to 115$.
ram perfect, don't listen to tards telling you that you need a lot of ram, you need fast ram, so 8gb of 2400 is better than 16gb of 1333.
the PSU is almost always silent, what you need to worry about is the CPU cooler, I got the crossair h100 and it's LOUD AS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
so make a smart choice and get a good cpu cooler
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The amount of Ram must be calculated by what the system will be used for, if one is going to do video rendering or memory intensive tasks or just playing games every so often for example.
About the CPU cooler, if you're not planning on overclocking the system then the stock cooler will do just fine for now.
An after-market cooler is something one would change down the line when they want to play around by overclocking the computer.
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I got the crossair h100 and it's LOUD AS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK so make a smart choice and get a good cpu cooler
Corsair hydro series or air series.I know hydro series would be perfect if i over clocked the cpu.Along with series question i would like to ask if over clocking is a good thing to do with your cpu?
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When ever is putting an electronic device under strain would it be good? Sure you may get some more performance if you overclock the CPU but it's minimal and unnecessary especially if you are looking at the 4770k.
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When ever is putting an electronic device under strain would it be good? Sure you may get some more performance if you overclock the CPU but it's minimal and unnecessary especially if you are looking at the 4770k.
If over clocking gpu?
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No major gains so why put the device under more stress?
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Corsair hydro series or air series.I know hydro series would be perfect if i over clocked the cpu.Along with series question i would like to ask if over clocking is a good thing to do with your cpu?
hydro, the thing is that they say the pump isn't loud, bullcrap, when you start bf4 it goes insane you can hear the water flow.. and don't get me started on the fans on the cooling mechanism.. like I said.. helicopter status.. buy an air one
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hydro, the thing is that they say the pump isn't loud, bullcrap, when you start bf4 it goes insane you can hear the water flow.. and don't get me started on the fans on the cooling mechanism.. like I said.. helicopter status.. buy an air one
Understood...Helicopter in bound,over :D .Alright now i want to know about motherboards which are the best in gaming.Well i love asus maximus VI series but which one? Hero? Gene? Or ultimate?.
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AMD is made for gaming, it has way faster graphics cards, but Nvidia is made for general PCs because it has really quick rendering and everything, I am an AMD fanboy...
That is by no means true. Each card that each company makes is different, and is aimed at a different market. You also admitted that you chose one over the other because of your company preference. If you wish to help users find a product, please make sure that your opinion is unbiased, unless you say "I prefer this because...", or something similar. We don't want people misled when seeking help purely because we prefer one thing over another.
Along with series question i would like to ask if over clocking is a good thing to do with your cpu?
You may get better performance from it, but you will shorten its lifespan by doing so. You can counter this by using higher-end liquid cooling to prevent the CPU from overheating more, but the lifespan will still not be that of a standard-clocking CPU.
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Understood,overclocking a bad thing.Still looking for MB answer