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Title: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Teddy on January 27, 2014, 04:50:05 am
Recently there has been much question revolving around one simple but elaborate question.. is Russia safe enough to host the Olympics?  The United States has recently developed a contingency which includes 2 battleships with helicopters ready to move in and evacuate Americans in the event of an attack. A plane also sits at a German Airport ready for the orders to move to Russia. Other countries are expected to have some sort of plan to protect their athletes and citizens in the event of what some are calling a impeding, credible threat of an attack.

The world officials seem to be in a debate over the security of Russia given the recent bombings which have taken place over the last few months. The world has never been so focused and concerned over such games.

Here's a few different links covering the topic.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/26/world/europe/sochi-contingency-plans/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-olympic-terrorist-search-sets-nerves-jangling-despite-putin-assurances-of-safety/2014/01/21/c0bd2a1a-82cb-11e3-bbe5-6a2a3141e3a9_story.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/sochi-olympics_n_4650922.html
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/30/world/europe/russia-volgograd-explosion/
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/29/world/europe/russia-train-station-explosion/


What do you think? Is Russia safe? Are the games safe? Is Putin being to calm and dismissing this issue?
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Alexander_Rijav on January 27, 2014, 08:44:18 am
I hear Bulgaria dispatched several COBT squads there,not sure if it's true...
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There has also been concern regarding possible terrorist attacks primarily by Islamist militants.[53]
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Vector on January 27, 2014, 08:56:04 am
What do you think? Is Russia safe? Are the games safe?

Every Country will send their Athletes on their own risk. Russian Government will make every possible effort to make the Games safe. They will increase the quantity of the security and They will do every thing to keep the athletes safe.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 27, 2014, 03:11:06 pm
I doubt they will be safe.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on January 27, 2014, 03:14:07 pm
Russia is more than capable of defending the games and eliminating potential threats.
I find it ridiculous that countries like the USA plan to come uninvited into Russia in case something happens.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 27, 2014, 03:22:48 pm
Russia is more than capable of defending the games and eliminating potential threats.
I find it ridiculous that countries like the USA plan to come uninvited into Russia in case something happens.
They couldn't prevent the attacks in December, what makes you think they can do it now?
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: JayL on January 27, 2014, 03:29:24 pm
I hear Bulgaria dispatched several COBT squads there,not sure if it's true...

(http://img.rt.com/files/news/berias-diary-stalin-cried/lavrenty-beria.si.jpg)
Tell us more about it, comrade.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Petarda on January 27, 2014, 03:46:56 pm
no dude russia is not safe I mean wtf it's russia right let's go google some gifs of drunk russians rite????

this is ridiculous
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 27, 2014, 04:00:08 pm
They couldn't prevent the attacks in December, what makes you think they can do it now?
Funny how US was interfering in the Chechen war twice and now people are afraid of terrorism when it concerns their own citizens/athletes. The US didn't prevent the Boston Bombings either, for example. What's the definition of 'safe' nowadays really? An extremist muslim group in Belgium, AKA 'Sharia4Belgium' promised bombings during New Year's eve at the exact place I was and well, I'm still alive as far as I know. I doubt anything major will happen to the olympics or the athletes themselves.

In my opinion, the safety of Sochi's olympic stadium was already high, meaning that Omarov's terrorist squad mostprobably weren't able to insert any devices beforehad (as that's pretty common) and went for random locations around the area for the sake of scaring the outside world. They probably would think it would stop the whole development of the olympics, but it only enforced it under an even higher level of security alert.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Huntsman on January 27, 2014, 04:02:46 pm
Russian military will be patrolling in the event, nuff said.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: JDC on January 27, 2014, 04:05:53 pm
It's only logical that they will want to keep the games safe. A fuck-up in an event the scale of the Olympics will not only be a PR disaster, but will also give much more fuel for the propaganda of the country's enemies. There is too much to lose in not providing high security.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 27, 2014, 04:06:32 pm
Funny how US was interfering in the Chechen war twice and now people are afraid of terrorism when it concerns their own citizens/athletes. The US didn't prevent the Boston Bombings either, for example. What's the definition of 'safe' nowadays really? An extremist muslim group in Belgium, AKA "Sharia4Belgium" promised bombings during New Year's eve at the exact place I was and well, I'm still alive as far as I know. I doubt anything major will happen to the olympics or the athletes themselves.

In my opinion, the safety of Sochi's olympic stadium was already high, meaning that Omarov's terrorist squad mostprobably weren't able to insert any devices beforehad (as that's pretty common) and went for random locations around the area for the sake of scaring the outside world. They probably would think it would stop the whole development of the olympics, but it only enforced it under an even higher level of security alert.
Well I guess what you said about the Boston bombings is correct, so in away the US can't talk and should piss off back home, but I still think there will be trouble during the winter Olympics, though I guess it wouldn't hurt Russia to accept help from other countries with good intelligence and defence services in the name of protecting innocent lives.

Russian military will be patrolling in the event, nuff said.
Not 'nuff' said, when it comes to preventing homeland terrorism all the work is done within secret intelligence services.

Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 27, 2014, 04:12:20 pm
Well I guess what you said about the Boston bombings is correct, so in away the US can't talk and should piss off back home, but I still think there will be trouble during the winter Olympics, though I guess it wouldn't hurt Russia to accept help from other countries with good intelligence and defence services in the name of protecting innocent lives.
Like I said, in my opinion, Omarov is desperate because he probably couldn't and still can't find a way to hit the olympics directly, thus his method was to induce fearfulness by bombing locations that weren't so heavily protected, which only worked counterproductive for him as of now. Only time will tell really.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Janar on January 27, 2014, 04:16:55 pm
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/19/world/europe/russia-putin-sochi/index.html?hpt=wo_bn9

I just found this article, that includes a video threat made regarding the Winter Olympics.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Teddy on January 27, 2014, 06:27:42 pm
Funny how US was interfering in the Chechen war twice and now people are afraid of terrorism when it concerns their own citizens/athletes. The US didn't prevent the Boston Bombings either, for example. What's the definition of 'safe' nowadays really? An extremist muslim group in Belgium, AKA 'Sharia4Belgium' promised bombings during New Year's eve at the exact place I was and well, I'm still alive as far as I know. I doubt anything major will happen to the olympics or the athletes themselves.

In my opinion, the safety of Sochi's olympic stadium was already high, meaning that Omarov's terrorist squad mostprobably weren't able to insert any devices beforehad (as that's pretty common) and went for random locations around the area for the sake of scaring the outside world. They probably would think it would stop the whole development of the olympics, but it only enforced it under an even higher level of security alert.

You aren't wrong about the Boston bombing but it is two different things. The Boston bombers were also "homegrown" and the United States isn't next to a war zone; if you will allow it to be called such. Also there was no threats present against the marathon. On top of this there have been no recent successful terror attacks prior to the marathon. In this case you have a mixture of a series of successful terrorist attacks, a location conveniently located near a country on a unpleasantness "war" path, and direct threats.

You are also right I don't think they'll be able to get anything in before hand. Considering a majority of countries, including the United States, have been allowed to send counter terrorism assets to the games under the permission of Putin granted they "aid" the efforts and not try to lead the efforts. This means you're going to have a lot of professionals including the Russian ones putting their minds together to keep anyone out of the area before hand and ensuring sweeps of the area for explosives are done constantly.

There was someone who suggested these terrorist might not be able to attack the games directly; but rather attack a nearby location which would create enough panic to disrupt the games. Since hearing this I do think it's a lot more likely an event compared to a direct attack against the games.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Afyea on January 27, 2014, 06:35:37 pm
Well.... As someone alredy promissed a terror-act... Russia is Russia... I doubt it's safe.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 27, 2014, 06:38:32 pm
I've read that the Sochi games is the biggest security operation in the Olympic movement's history, which would indicate to me that everything should go smoothly. After what I've seen, Russian forces are creating a 'ring of steel' around the Olympic arena stationing Russian military at key sites around it. From this I doubt that anyone would be able to bypass these tight security controls and interfere in the actual stadium grounds itself. However I believe an attack outside of the stadium, closeby is a high probability.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Petarda on January 27, 2014, 07:07:59 pm
Well.... As someone alredy promissed a terror-act... Russia is Russia... I doubt it's safe.
You might want to explain that.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Alexander_Rijav on January 27, 2014, 08:38:18 pm
(http://img.rt.com/files/news/berias-diary-stalin-cried/lavrenty-beria.si.jpg)
Tell us more about it, comrade.
Well,communism became unpopular before my post...long before it.  :uhm:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 27, 2014, 08:48:01 pm
Well,communism became unpopular before my post...long before it.  :uhm:
What does that have to do with Bulgaria sending a bunch of wannabe's to Russia? :uhm:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 27, 2014, 10:15:06 pm
Most corrupt games in history. :gand:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 27, 2014, 11:13:05 pm
Most corrupt games in history. :gand:
You just watched Panorama? Lol

All the contractors who are doing the construction work for the Olympics are Putin's close childhood friends who have all been extremely over payed to build whats 'needed' to host the Olympics, Putin also build himself a nice mansion in the hills near the Olympic venue and has had anyone who investigates/complains about corrupt arrested like a certain journalist who had weed planted in the back of his car by police and is due to serve 3 years in jail for it, along with someone who complained that he wasn't payed for months after doing construction work was arrested, beaten by the police and then let go, and theres many more cases - And they say the Olympics are supposed to being fairness and prosperity, not in Russia. :lol:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 27, 2014, 11:32:16 pm
You just watched Panorama?
Yes, but someone will post saying that we are wrong because of the brainwashing received by our media who apparently know nothing. Even though the program featured Russian people speaking out in fear of their lives and even credited Putin at one point for his advancements on the economy. But we are still closed-minded Brits, aren't we?
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 27, 2014, 11:44:42 pm
Yes, but someone will post saying that we are wrong because of the brainwashing received by our media who apparently no nothing. Even though the program featured Russian people speaking out in fear of their lives and even credited Putin at one point for his advancements on the economy. But we are still closed-minded Brits, aren't we?
Lol yes, Russians will soon be here telling us how wrong the BBC is and that we are completely brainwashed.
I think they'll find in reality it is very different though.

Edit:
Sorry I forgot to post a picture of Mr Toughguy.
(http://www.whatthortoldme.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/putin-pony.jpg)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 28, 2014, 12:08:15 am
Lol yes, Russians will soon be here telling us how wrong the BBC is and that we are completely brainwashed.
I think they'll find in reality it is very different though.

Edit:
Sorry I forgot to post a picture of Mr Toughguy.
The UK seems to be a very fun place to live in  :lol:
(http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/files/2013/01/sharia-law-in-the-UK.jpg)

Also
>Britain's David Cameron
>Not one of the most corrupted politicians of the West
top kek
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 28, 2014, 12:17:33 am
The UK seems to be a very fun place to live in  :lol:
>Idiots in Picture<

Also
>Britain's David Cameron
>Not one of the most corrupted politicians of the West
top kek
Yes, full of immigrated religious idiots I know, thats why everyone is moving out of London, well all the British people anyway, thats why I vote UKIP.

P.S: There is not actual sharia law enforced area's, that is just Muslims printing off stickers whilst they day dream. And how is David Cameron the most corrupt politician in the west? You make me laugh, provide sources if you're going to post stuff. :)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Alexander_Rijav on January 28, 2014, 08:02:11 am
What does that have to do with Bulgaria sending a bunch of wannabe's to Russia? :uhm:
Becose the president will attend.  :eek:
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Describing himself as a keen athlete who liked to ski, play tennis and swim,
And 37 other competitors. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Brandon. on January 28, 2014, 08:26:56 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3qfBpF8nho
(http://i.imgur.com/7Ety1WN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/nQFGjzX.jpg)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 28, 2014, 11:17:50 am
The UK seems to be a very fun place to live in  :lol:
The programme that we watched was produced by the BBC which is probably one of the most reliable news sources in the world. The article that you have published comes from the Daily Star which most Brits take as trash.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 28, 2014, 12:37:25 pm
The programme that we watched was produced by the BBC which is probably one of the most reliable news sources in the world. The article that you have published comes from the Daily Star which most Brits take as trash.
But it does have some truth, the article, 2 Muslims were arrested for going around London calling themselves 'The Muslim Patrol' and sticking labels everywhere about Sharia law, harassing women to hide them faces and not to drive and trying to take alcohol off people, most of which just told them to piss off, the article does extremely exaggerate it though.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Teddy on January 28, 2014, 04:47:51 pm
probably one of the most reliable news sources in the world.

My coffee just ended up everywhere from that laugh.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: JayL on January 28, 2014, 04:58:07 pm
Certainly it is one of the most effective brainwashing systems - practically everyone in Britain believes they are in a democracy :rofl:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Alexander_Rijav on January 28, 2014, 05:07:54 pm
Certainly it is one of the most effective brainwashing systems - practically everyone in Britain believes they are in a democracy :rofl:
It's not hard to wash a brain,easier than pair of socks...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 28, 2014, 05:18:22 pm
My coffee just ended up everywhere from that laugh.
Okay. Give me an American news network that is independent of government control that reports independent, accurate facts that admits when it makes mistakes.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 28, 2014, 05:20:34 pm
Certainly it is one of the most effective brainwashing systems - practically everyone in Britain believes they are in a democracy :rofl:
Did I say that our country was democratic? Well yes it is and a free press is a part of that, but not as democratic as it could be - for example our unproportional General Election system and our spies watching whatever we do. However it's much more democratic than Russia right now.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 28, 2014, 05:22:10 pm
My coffee just ended up everywhere from that laugh.
Must be laughing out of embarrassment that the US doesn't have a news source as good. :D

Certainly it is one of the most effective brainwashing systems - practically everyone in Britain believes they are in a democracy :rofl:
Sorry, what government system is yours and most countries government systems based off? Oh yes! The UK's!
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: JayL on January 28, 2014, 05:50:36 pm
Sorry, what government system is yours and most countries government systems based off? Oh yes! The UK's!

You're about 130 years late.

Did I say that our country was democratic? Well yes it is and a free press is a part of that, but not as democratic as it could be - for example our unproportional General Election system and our spies watching whatever we do. However it's much more democratic than Russia right now.

It is not democratic, there's no democratic place. The inventors of democracy were not democratic themselves.

What's out there is the rule of media empires, bankers, religious, etc. Call that anything but democracy.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: JDC on January 28, 2014, 05:56:37 pm
The world was always governed by empires. Just so happens that the title of the rulers changed and their number increased as modern times arrived, the old title of "Emperor" replaced by Executives and Politicians.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Teddy on January 28, 2014, 06:30:34 pm
Okay. Give me an American news network that is independent of government control that reports independent, accurate facts that admits when it makes mistakes.

Don't think I ever said an American news network is. Don't put words in my mouth.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 28, 2014, 08:34:25 pm
You're about 130 years late.
No, your government is still based off a British system.

It is not democratic, there's no democratic place. The inventors of democracy were not democratic themselves.

What's out there is the rule of media empires, bankers, religious, etc. Call that anything but democracy.
Well compared to some countries, the UK is as democratic as a country can possibly be, put it this way, David Cameron isnt trying to get people killed when they look into government business, Putin is.

The world was always governed by empires. Just so happens that the title of the rulers changed and their number increased as modern times arrived, the old title of "Emperor" replaced by Executives and Politicians.
Emperor suits Mr Putin the most, sounds more dictatorship-like.

Don't think I ever said an American news network is. Don't put words in my mouth.
Oh right, so you couldn't find an American news source that was better?
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: JayL on January 28, 2014, 09:26:30 pm
David Cameron isnt trying to get people killed when they look into government business

Instead he supports the killing of those that oppose the imperialism of Britain's lord, the USA.

No, your government is still based off a British system.

No, Brazil moved over to the USA as their political system model 130 years ago. Even that your dear Britain managed to lose. :|
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 28, 2014, 09:35:15 pm
Instead he supports the killing of those that oppose the imperialism of Britain's lord, the USA.
I understand why you need to throw this false claim at the UK, you must feel a bit embarrassed with Brazil not contributing anything to preventing terrorism and bringing some sort of democracy to the unstable middle east.

No, Brazil moved over to the USA as their political system model 130 years ago. Even that your dear Britain managed to lose. :|
And who's political system is the USA's based off no matter what way you look at it? It's not a coincidence that the US flag has the same colours as the UK, they thought they should keep a similar governance system too. :)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 28, 2014, 10:43:44 pm
Don't think I ever said an American news network is. Don't put words in my mouth.
Through your response to my comment you implied that the BBC was not a reliable news source. Therefore I asked you to find a network that was equally as reliable as the BBC or more reliable and you accuse me of making stuff up.

Emperor suits Mr Putin the most, sounds more dictatorship-like.
:lol:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: JayL on January 29, 2014, 05:15:38 am
I understand why you need to throw this false claim at the UK, you must feel a bit embarrassed with Brazil not contributing anything to preventing terrorism and bringing some sort of democracy to the unstable middle east.

I am proud that my country does not waste its time trying to force a system full of failures and lies upon people who do not give a shit about it, just to see it all make things worse in the end.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: KhornateMonkey on January 29, 2014, 10:32:38 am
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/m92eq9.jpg)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 29, 2014, 04:42:16 pm
Well compared to some countries, the UK is as democratic as a country can possibly be, put it this way, David Cameron isnt trying to get people killed when they look into government business, Putin is.
Oh nice I didn't know you were a government official. Marvelous tale, chap! :cowboy:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 29, 2014, 05:31:50 pm
I am proud that my country does not waste its time trying to force a system full of failures and lies upon people who do not give a shit about it, just to see it all make things worse in the end.
You just stood on yourself right there, your country runs on the same system.

Oh nice I didn't know you were a government official. Marvelous tale, chap! :cowboy:
Sorry I can't recall the last time a person left the UK in fear of his life because of the government, instead it seems everyone tries to move here from other countries.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 29, 2014, 05:54:40 pm
Sorry I can't recall the last time a person left the UK in fear of his life because of the government, instead it seems everyone tries to move here from other countries.
Oh yeah so apart from being a government official you also know everything about Russia and its people. You're like the smartest man on the planet. :|
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 29, 2014, 06:00:16 pm
Oh yeah so apart from being a government official you also know everything about Russia and its people. You're like the smartest man on the planet. :|
No man I just watched a programme where a Russian guy in the UK was explaining how he had to leave Russia in fear of his own life because he spoke out about corruption with Putin and the contractors regarding the Olympic events buildings construction, not to mention the reporters who were in Russia interviewing citizens who were explaining how miserable and under payed they are, and yes they actually live in Sochi.

Quit pretending you're Russian president is perfect, the only reason he got into power in the first place was by vote rigging.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 29, 2014, 06:04:14 pm
No man I just watched a programme where a Russian guy in the UK was explaining how he had to leave Russia in fear of his own life because he spoke out about corruption with Putin and the contractors regarding the Olympic events buildings construction, not to mention the reporters who were in Russia interviewing citizens who were explaining how miserable and under payed they are, and yes they actually live in Sochi.

Quit pretending you're Russian president is perfect, the only reason he got into power in the first place was by vote rigging.
Oh so if one fleeds the country and spits out a story not only means its 100% true and accurate but also applies to every single Russian?  :lol: I never pretended nor contradicted corruption within Russia, I just find it highly amusing of seeing people being mad about it and point fingers while they are within corruption themselves usually without knowing or refusing to know.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 29, 2014, 06:05:37 pm
Oh so if one fleeds the country and spits out a story not only means its 100% true and accurate but also applies to every single Russian?  :lol: I never pretended nor contradicted corruption within Russia, I just find it highly amusing of seeing people being mad about it and point fingers while they are within corruption themselves usually without knowing or refusing to know.
Right, please share your story of corruption about the UK, since I'm within corruption, and don't post about phone/information hacking, that shit is old. :)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 29, 2014, 06:13:42 pm
Right, please share your story of corruption about the UK, since I'm within corruption, and don't post about phone/information hacking, that shit is old. :)
It's always easier to point your finger and say "Look! Look how corrupt they are!" and refusing facing facts about your own government, who killed millions in colonization and being proud of it, planted the artificial state of Israel causing wars , sold chemicals to Syria during the civil war, etc. just to name a few examples. :)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 29, 2014, 06:20:04 pm
who killed millions in colonization and being proud of it
Woah, how far in the past are you stuck? If the British government was really proud of the UK's colonial past I'm sure they would have rubbed it in everyones face at the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony, but they didn't did they? No instead they decided to go with the more peaceful industrial revolution.

planted the artificial state of Israel causing wars
Well where else were Jews meant to go? Israel is their holy land and was even before the 'implantation.'

sold chemicals to Syria during before the civil war not knowing what they were being used for.
Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on January 29, 2014, 06:25:36 pm
Well where else were Jews meant to go? Israel is their holy land and was even before the 'implantation.'

Madagascar.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 29, 2014, 06:29:36 pm
Woah, how far in the past are you stuck?
>says guy that yaps about 130 year old theoretical democratic system

If the British government was really proud of the UK's colonial past I'm sure they would have rubbed it in everyones face at the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony, but they didn't did they? No instead they decided to go with the more peaceful industrial revolution.
>thinks being proud automatically means you have to show it off

Well where else were Jews meant to go? Israel is their holy land and was even before the 'implantation.'
Which gives you absolutely no right to decide about land division. Especially if it concerns land that is already inhabited by people of a state.

Fixed that for you.
Yeah with the Arab Spring and the big political instability within Syria before the official 'war' announcement was like entirely not to be taken into consideration when selling dangerous chemicals that could be 99.9% certainly used for weaponization in such times. :lol:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 29, 2014, 06:46:37 pm
>says guy that yaps about 130 year old theoretical democratic system
Theoretical or one that exists?

>thinks being proud automatically means you have to show it off
Right and they arnt entitled be secretly proud that the British Empire was the largest in human history and controlled more land than any other country? Still, atleast they didn't show it off at the Olympics, personally I would have been happy if they did, but the industrial revolution show was still good. :)

Which gives you absolutely no right to decide about land division. Especially if it concerns land that is already inhabited by people of a state.
It was colonsied by the British before it was even called Israel, so it was British land that needed to be handed off to someone regardless.

Yeah with the Arab Spring and the big political instability within Syria before the official 'war' announcement was like entirely not to be taken into consideration when selling dangerous chemicals that could be 99.9% certainly used for weaponization in such times. :lol:
http://news.sky.com/story/1116687/britains-chemical-sales-to-syria-revealed
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Britain has sold industrial materials to Syria that could have been used to make chemical weapons
Everyone makes mistakes. :)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 29, 2014, 06:53:57 pm
Theoretical or one that exists?
lelwat

Right and they arnt entitled be secretly proud that the British Empire was the largest in human history and controlled
And was also the largest to fall. Like I said, very open minded of you to be so proud of killing millions of people. :bananarock:

It was colonsied by the British before it was even called Israel, so it was British land that needed to be handed off to someone regardless.
Australia was colonized by the British too. Continuing by your standars, colonizing automatically means you can do whatever the fuck you want with the land because it's yours even after it seperates itself from it, right? I think Hitler had the same vision in common. :app:

http://news.sky.com/story/1116687/britains-chemical-sales-to-syria-revealedEveryone makes mistakes. :)
People do make mistakes, but I'm pretty sure I didn't ;)
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/revealed-britain-sold-nerve-gas-2242520
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-uk-government-let-british-company-export-nerve-gas-chemicals-to-syria-8793642.html
http://www.infowars.com/revealed-britain-sold-nerve-gas-chemicals-to-syria-10-months-after-war-began/
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 29, 2014, 07:06:17 pm
And was also the largest to fall. Like I said, very open minded of you to be so proud of killing millions of people. :bananarock:
I didn't say I was proud of the killing, I'm just proud that a little island like the UK could achieve what it did and still remains a global power.

Australia was colonized by the British too. Continuing by your standars, colonizing automatically means you can do whatever the f**k you want with the land because it's yours even after it seperates itself from it, right? I think Hitler had the same vision in common. :app:
Oh sorry, look what Russia did to Poland when they got hold of it, I bet they are glad that's over with, what kind of comparison is the British Empire and Hitler? The British Empire only killed those who got in it's way, Hitler killed because of hatred, pretty retarded comparison.

And Australia? Nice and successful country which manages to keep it's identity, would love to go there. :)

People do make mistakes, but I'm pretty sure I didn't ;)
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/revealed-britain-sold-nerve-gas-2242520
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-uk-government-let-british-company-export-nerve-gas-chemicals-to-syria-8793642.html
http://www.infowars.com/revealed-britain-sold-nerve-gas-chemicals-to-syria-10-months-after-war-began/
You just did it again by finding the UK's most unreliable news sources. :lol:
Call it whatever you want, it wasn't nerve gas or chemical weapons when the UK sold it, it was industrial chemicals for industrial use.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 29, 2014, 07:15:19 pm
I didn't say I was proud of the killing, I'm just proud that a little island like the UK could achieve what it did and still remains a global power.
Killing men with sticks is a true achievement.

Oh sorry, look what Russia did to Poland when they got hold of it, I bet they are glad that's over with, what kind of comparison is the British Empire and Hitler? The British Empire only killed those who got in it's way, Hitler killed because of hatred, pretty retarded comparison.
If you calm down and re-read my sentence you would notice that I was pointing out your vision and comparing it to Hitler's in conquering and killing. You should do some reading and perhaps less internet. :D Funny ironic side detail: you fight a seemingly flawed argument (which actually isn't if you reread it) by placing another flawed argument. Normal Russians aren't proud of killing or murdering, but each country has its fair share of rednecks. You seem to be one of em good ol' Britbongs though. :lol:

And Australia? Nice and successful country which manages to keep it's identity, would love to go there. :)
You just did it again by finding the UK's most unreliable news sources. :lol:
Call it whatever you want, it wasn't nerve gas or chemical weapons when the UK sold it, it was industrial chemicals for industrial use.
Oh so a news source says something you don't agree with automatically means that it is wrong. And again, you seem to be a government official with such intel.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Miller786 on January 29, 2014, 07:19:06 pm
Oh god, another pointless political discussion about who and when did this and that, please we are not in the past...
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 29, 2014, 07:30:55 pm
Oh god, another pointless political discussion about who and when did this and that, please we are not in the past...
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One cannot simply let ignorants take over the thread
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mikal on January 29, 2014, 07:37:37 pm
Killing men with sticks is a true achievement.
Yes, because the British never had massive ocean going battles with cannons or large scale fights with muskets and swords which both sides had (if you know what a musket is)...

If you calm down and re-read my sentence you would notice that I was pointing out your vision and comparing it to Hitler's in conquering and killing. You should do some reading and perhaps less internet. :D Funny ironic side detail: you fight a seemingly flawed argument (which actually isn't if you reread it) by placing another flawed argument.
Oh sorry if I read your bullshit wrong.

Normal Russians aren't proud of killing or murdering, but each country has its fair share of rednecks. You seem to be one of em good ol' Britbongs though. :lol:
Right, so because I'm proud of the British Empire it automatically means I'm proud of killing and murdering?
And good ol' Britbong? (Nice work you made up there) I think I'm just overly patriotic, what do you expect? If you came to the UK you'd soon find out why.

Oh so a news source says something you don't agree with automatically means that it is wrong. And again, you seem to be a government official with such intel.
No it doesn't mean it's automatically wrong, but they are the biggest bullshitters in the UK, by the way you left the sun out, they probably had a similar story saying how the British government planned the whole thing and wanted innocent Syrians to get gassed..

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One cannot simply let ignorants take over the thread
Yes, and from my experience some Russian's are the most ignorant people on the planet. :)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Borus on January 29, 2014, 07:40:30 pm
wat
Relax, you can't be right at everything. :lol:

Yes, and from my experience some Russian's are the most ignorant people on the planet. :)
Damn man you really got me there 10/10 argumentation overload 360 n0sc0pe  :dead: :war: :dead: :weed: :weed: :weed:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: JDC on January 29, 2014, 09:33:34 pm
Oh god, another pointless political discussion about who and when did this and that, please we are not in the past...

Does not help explaining why universities across the world still study and debate history. :gand:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Miller786 on January 31, 2014, 08:47:47 pm
 
Does not help explaining why universities across the world still study and debate history. :gand:
Universities dont start debates based on own ideas without any documentation, they research and proof what they say...
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: JDC on January 31, 2014, 09:01:03 pm
Universities dont start debates based on own ideas without any documentation, they research and proof what they say...

Some University students do. As a uni student I could attest to this myself. Although you did open this line of reasoning with the assertion "we are not in the past".

The discussions are pointless in some aspects, but in others are healthy as they allow for mixing and comparison of ideas.
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on February 03, 2014, 10:56:02 pm
How is Putin going to keep himself safe in his penthouse apartment suite overlooking the Sochi mountains surrounded by SAM turrets, The Presidential Regiment and reels of barbed wire?
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Petarda on February 03, 2014, 11:42:00 pm
How is Putin going to keep himself safe in his penthouse apartment suite overlooking the Sochi mountains surrounded by SAM turrets, The Presidential Regiment and reels of barbed wire?
u just said it

he'll also watch some angry and jelly brits shitting on his country on some gaming forum u know
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on February 04, 2014, 11:12:46 am
he'll also watch some angry and jelly brits shitting on his country on some gaming forum u know
I'm jealous of Putin?

(http://www.russiablog.org/PutinSchroederLaughing.JPG)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Petarda on February 04, 2014, 12:32:30 pm
I'm jealous of Putin?

(http://www.russiablog.org/PutinSchroederLaughing.JPG)
pretty much
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: TiMoN on February 04, 2014, 02:20:50 pm
Pretty much sure that everyone will be paranoid once they arrive, and end up in losing.  :balance:
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on February 08, 2014, 10:15:46 pm
I wondered who got executed when this happened.

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/GTY_sochi_olympic_opening_ceremony_ring_fail_jef_140207_16x9_608.jpg)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Marcel on February 09, 2014, 06:10:41 pm
I wondered who got executed when this happened.

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/GTY_sochi_olympic_opening_ceremony_ring_fail_jef_140207_16x9_608.jpg)

http://dailycurrant.com/2014/02/08/man-responsible-for-olympic-ring-mishap-found-dead-in-sochi/


on a more bright note, it is safe to say we Dutch own the entire world when it comes to speed skating :D

(http://i.imgur.com/rDjMx5J.png)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Kostas on February 09, 2014, 06:18:29 pm
I wondered who got executed when this happened.

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/GTY_sochi_olympic_opening_ceremony_ring_fail_jef_140207_16x9_608.jpg)

May I ask why they have the right to change the official "Logo" of the Olympiad?
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: KhornateMonkey on February 09, 2014, 11:32:29 pm
May I ask why they have the right to change the official "Logo" of the Olympiad?

I don't think they did it on purpose...
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: Mario_Rinna on February 09, 2014, 11:47:19 pm
I don't think they did it on purpose...
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48339001/ol2.jpeg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48339001/ol1.jpg)
Title: Re: Sochi Olympics... are they safe?
Post by: [WS]Jacob on February 10, 2014, 05:57:32 pm
May I ask why they have the right to change the official "Logo" of the Olympiad?
(http://cdn.hitfix.com/photos/5046201/Worst-NBC-goes-overboard-on-Putin.jpg)
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