Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:IV => IV:MP - Liberty City Multiplayer => IV:MP Ideas & Suggestions => Topic started by: BojanS on March 02, 2014, 01:26:06 am
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Hello dear Friends!
I'll try to be brief, as always:
What if we had command, that could be used by everyone, and it would be - /frisk ID.
Explanation: Two players would need to be close to eachother, and when player 1 types /frisk ID, player 2 gets a message like: "Player 1 requested to frisk you". Then Player 2 needs to /accept, which will allow player 1 to see money amount*, passport and license* possesion, and amount of weed that player has.
* Money amount would show max 300$, so people can't say: "I dont have enough money to pay the ticket Officer". For example, If player has, let's say 23$ in total, it would show 23$ so Officer could let him go with a warning or... Arrest him.
*This could be handy for rp, but it's not a must.
Second Idea related to Weed possesion amount:
As far as I know, max amount of weed in possesion isn't "limited", and it would be nice if Players could have up to 100* grams in their possesion, and not more.
*100 isn't a must, of course.
EDIT - 3.2.2014. Of course frisk would show possesion of weapons, I forgot to write that yesterday, I apologize.
Would love to hear Your opinions good People of Argonath.
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That /Frisk thing is good i support you bro........... i am with you(Pokedude09)
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I really like the first idea, this will improve the RP quality when cops perform routine traffic stops, etc, etc..
As for the second, the weeds shall be limited, but maybe we should be able to store weeds in houses?
Because some players has plenty of weeds and where else can they store it if not in invent?
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I really like the first idea, this will improve the RP quality when cops perform routine traffic stops, etc, etc..
As for the second, the weeds shall be limited, but maybe we should be able to store weeds in houses?
Because some players has plenty of weeds and where else can they store it if not in invent?
Yea, storing in houses would be good idea. It would be nice if we could use trunks of owned cars as storage, someone already mentioned that if I remember correctly. :)
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Yea, but what will stop cops to run from person to person with "I want to frisk you", you reject that? /suspect failing to comply / rejecting frisk etc... ?
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Yea, but what will stop cops to run from person to person with "I want to frisk you", you reject that? /suspect failing to comply / rejecting frisk etc... ?
Maybe if right to frisk is not given to Freecops, so everyone would have their peace that way. Only for FBI, LCPD. Also, civilians could use that, for certain kinds of rp's, why not?
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Do NOT approve the idea.
1) Dont think that frisk thing is that good to script new cmd and put all work in it
2)Drugs limit is not good, how about familys? How about RP drug mafias or something who have to maybe carry that stuff in kilos?
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Hello dear Friends!
I'll try to be brief, as always:
What if we had command, that could be used by everyone, and it would be - /frisk ID.
Explanation: Two players would need to be close to eachother, and when player 1 types /frisk ID, player 2 gets a message like: "Player 1 requested to frisk you". Then Player 2 needs to /accept, which will allow player 1 to see money amount*, passport and license* possesion, and amount of weed that player has.
* Money amount would show max 300$, so people can't say: "I dont have enough money to pay the ticket Officer". For example, If player has, let's say 23$ in total, it would show 23$ so Officer could let him go with a warning or... Arrest him.
*This could be handy for rp, but it's not a must.
Second Idea related to Weed possesion amount:
As far as I know, max amount of weed in possesion isn't "limited", and it would be nice if Players could have up to 100* grams in their possesion, and not more.
*100 isn't a must, of course.
EDIT - 3.2.2014. Of course frisk would show possesion of weapons, I forgot to write that yesterday, I apologize.
Would love to hear Your opinions good People of Argonath.
1st Idea: /Unsupported
1st idea was suggested before and it was denied for a good: The reason was as always "abusal of command"
Also it would decrease roleplay, force to roleplay,
2nd Idea: /Unsupported
There is nowhere to store drugs therefore a limitation like that is not acceptable...
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@Talya if Freecops were unable to use that command, there would be no abuse.
Edit: It would also increase interest in joining LCPD or FBI.
People would learn a lot that way, and become better at doing their duties.
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@Talya if Freecops were unable to use that command, there would be no abuse.
Think like that ^^"
Also I think it cant be implemented that way because though not sure:
2. Argonath gives equal rights to new, experienced and admin players. We do not discriminate between players, and having admin rights or being a long time player does not give any of our players rights to act as better, higher or having more status as another.
Also it would force to roleplay, when I have drugs or weapons on, why should I become forced to roleplay? There is nowhere I can store and we all know %70 of the players have drugs on them and some of us are main targets to be frisked...
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@Talya Cooperating with Police is a matter of choice, so there is not forcing rp.
You can say that normal pullover is forcing rp..
It's an extra command, like /cancelsuspect for example.
Anyways, would love to hear more opinions so we could discuss this further.
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@Talya Cooperating with Police is a matter of choice, so there is not forcing rp.
You can say that normal pullover is forcing rp..
It's an extra command, like /cancelsuspect for example.
Anyways, would love to hear more opinions so we could discuss this further.
Some time ago i refused to rp (Pullover case - a freecop pullovered me). The guy who "forced me" to rp , listened me and watched the words (I simple told to dont force me to rp , because i didnt want) but he used /su just after 1 sec and it ended without unsuspect for me. Admins , for my opnion , didnt know what to write me after i told them the story and i had to remain suspect. The problem , without offense against comunity and all, its the argonath vision which doesnt want to be changed until we all get a solid opnion to write against it.
Maybe i went offtopic , but i wanted to say , as talya yold , that the problem is ib the vision which doesnt allow such things.
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Yea, driving around like crazy and saying I don't want to RP is not really working.
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@Talya Cooperating with Police is a matter of choice, so there is not forcing rp.
You can say that normal pullover is forcing rp..
It's an extra command, like /cancelsuspect for example.
Anyways, would love to hear more opinions so we could discuss this further.
If you dont cooperate, this time occures things that u wouldnt want which also can be counted as force to rp, therefore I still dont support this. You just cant say "I dont want to rp" and you end up being suspected for a forced rp, which is against rules though welcomed by administration due to lack of possibility to prove it...
Yea, driving around like crazy and saying I don't want to RP is not really working.
Cops are randomly pulling over, they drift around you and when you touch them , you end up become paid 100$-200$ , Stop using comments and find some people which defends your statement that are not ranked Law Enforcers or a fanatic of it.
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Some time ago i refused to rp (Pullover case - a freecop pullovered me). The guy who "forced me" to rp , listened me and watched the words (I simple told to dont force me to rp , because i didnt want)
When you enter the server, you are there to roleplay, and that means with everyone you encounter. In some situations you can not be forced, and certainly people can not force you to do only what they want. But you can never refuse to interact with others in a respectful way.
Now let's get back to the topic.
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Yea, driving around like crazy and saying I don't want to RP is not really working.
I can show you that i can drive more better than you think. I dont know if you know what happen when a guy get pullovered. Most of times , newcomers / freecops , which saw/asked about ticket , come to you like a crazy guy at max speed (Ramming) and they ask tickets for it or /su and most of them are bad drivers than you and me. And dont tell me that an investigation is the solution , because it isnt most of times. I investigated some people getting abused by these cops , which leave after use /su brcause , i think, they didnt get how police job work.
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Cops are randomly pulling over, they drift around you and when you touch them , you end up become paid 100$-200$ , Stop using comments and find some people which defends your statement that are not ranked Law Enforcers or a fanatic of it.
Cops that are drift around gets warned then cop banned if they repeat that. They are obliged to respect traffic laws, you aren't. And yes, they can randomly pullover whoever they want, ever heard of regular control ?
I don't understand second sentence. I am just answering on your and players like you moans.
I can show you that i can drive more better than you think. I dont know if you know what happen when a guy get pullovered. Most of times , newcomers / freecops , which saw/asked about ticket , come to you like a crazy guy at max speed (Ramming) and they ask tickets for it or /su and most of them are bad drivers than you and me. And dont tell me that an investigation is the solution , because it isnt most of times. I investigated some people getting abused by these cops , which leave after use /su brcause , i think, they didnt get how police job work.
Being able to drive is not the same as obeying to traffic laws. And I know you are not obeying to traffic laws, so I don't understand why are you moaning if someone pulls you over? You can't say to him "I Don't wanna RP". O.o
Also, there is no need for investigation if you are clearly abused, just /report otherwise you know the procedure. Sorry if you are wasting your time with roleplaying on server, I know that can be boring sometimes...
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Cops that are drift around gets warned then cop banned if they repeat that. They are obliged to respect traffic laws, you aren't. And yes, they can randomly pullover whoever they want, ever heard of regular control ?
I don't understand second sentence. I am just answering on your and players like you moans.
Im not moaning, Im expressing a problem; if you keep not caring about the problems in server and just categorize it as moaning, nothing will be solved; but as I said, I dont expect cops to get it, cos whenever I see you get pulledover, you just show you badge and get going.
Being able to drive is not the same as obeying to traffic laws. And I know you are not obeying to traffic laws, so I don't understand why are you moaning if someone pulls you over? You can't say to him "I Don't wanna RP". O.o
Also, there is no need for investigation if you are clearly abused, just /report otherwise you know the procedure. Sorry if you are wasting your time with roleplaying on server, I know that can be boring sometimes...
Look, people are pulling over for reasons that are not commited, or things like when u go 82 cos u just click on "W" a little long, then a cop comes up and make you pay 200$ etc for it. Otherwise you get sued. I dont get why on this server I gotta prove my innocence but cops doesnt need to prove my guiltiness. :)
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Im not moaning, Im expressing a problem; if you keep not caring about the problems in server and just categorize it as moaning, nothing will be solved; but as I said, I dont expect cops to get it, cos whenever I see you get pulledover, you just show you badge and get going.
We are aware of the problem with free cops and we are trying to teach them the right way. If they just joined the server, how could they know what are specific rules when you are pulling over someone? Be more tolerant toward new players. As I said, we, as admins, are not letting them abuse anyone and if any player feels abused he can always contact admins, easy as that. Also, new players are constantly being abused by taxi drivers, drug dealers etc. but that is not a problem, as most of you are earning money that way, right? I don't see any "moaning" about that?
And yea, please, can you tell me when I used my badge to avoid any traffic stop? I even paid ticket some time ago unlike 99% of regular players that won't give 50$ in a roleplay and that is a fact. "I am saving for my car"... Blah.
Look, people are pulling over for reasons that are not commited, or things like when u go 82 cos u just click on "W" a little long, then a cop comes up and make you pay 200$ etc for it. Otherwise you get sued. I dont get why on this server I gotta prove my innocence but cops doesnt need to prove my guiltiness. :)
Drive 65km/h and when you press "W" a little you won't go over 80. About last part, I wouldn't know, you ll have to ask managers about that.
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Wasn't there a lot of arguing over frisk in SAMP, like cops just randomly frisking everyone till they found someone in posession of something?
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Wasn't there a lot of arguing over frisk in SAMP, like cops just randomly frisking everyone till they found someone in posession of something?
Then all that abuses, that reports, that forcing of rps just cos he has illegal stuff on him etc etc etc etcccccccc but well, when someone is going to get some extra command, other ones who is against to this idea are simply called "moaners" :)
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Then all that abuses, that reports, that forcing of rps just cos he has illegal stuff on him etc etc etc etcccccccc but well, when someone is going to get some extra command, other ones who is against to this idea are simply called "moaners" :)
If you stop moaning and start reading you would see I was against this.
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"If this idea is forcing rp and against the Argonath Vision", would it be acceptable if we had some kind of store points, where we could store weed? Also in houses, trunks eventually.. Also, weed dealers should change locations and if weed would make drunk cam for 10 minutes..
Yea, right. :neutral2:
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If you stop moaning and start reading you would see I was against this.
If you stop going off topic, you ll see that Im not saying anything about you and the idea... You started to talk about how civilians drive, so you got your answer for that, now you say "stop moaning and look what I write" , well Im aware of what is being written, I guess u re not aware u re going off topic and telling me I moan...
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"If this idea is forcing rp and against the Argonath Vision", would it be acceptable if we had some kind of store points, where we could store weed? Also in houses, trunks eventually.. Also, weed dealers should change locations and if weed would make drunk cam for 10 minutes..
Yea, right. :neutral2:
10 minutes drunk cam can even cause u to become drunk cos of watching that cam 10 mins wont be healthy xD , maybe a shortened version can be better but I already asked for it , dont remember if I am told its impossible; though since character ragdoll is not synced, only the person who has drunk cam will be aware of it.
Making a storage for weed may resolve the problem.
Though still, ppl will get abused if that command be given to freecops..
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For Bojan's frisk idea: yea it is pretty cool but it can be damn abused so sorry to say but unsupported.
For John and Talya's fight: could u use PMs?
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For Bojan's frisk idea: yea it is pretty cool but it can be damn abused so sorry to say but unsupported.
For John and Talya's fight: could u use PMs?
No.