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Title: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on March 25, 2014, 11:10:26 pm
If the HDMI cable is long (lets say 2-3 meters), will it lose the quality of the signal?
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Janar on March 25, 2014, 11:14:43 pm
2-3 metres should not suffer any quality loss. 15 metres and higher is something to be worried about.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on March 25, 2014, 11:17:43 pm
2-3 metres should not suffer any quality loss. 15 metres and higher is something to be worried about.

Thanks!
Title: Graphics Card
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 12:46:15 pm
I dont want to create a new account so I am bumping this.

As of right now, my PC does not have a graphics card.

I want to buy the cheapest possible graphics card that had 2 HDMIs so I can connect one to my monitor and the other on the TV.

How would I check what graphics card supports my motherboard?

The PC will mainly be used for entertainment (watching movies etc) and at times I may play SAMP on it.
Title: Re: Graphics Card
Post by: Skecis on April 07, 2014, 01:45:32 pm
I dont want to create a new account so I am bumping this.

As of right now, my PC does not have a graphics card.

I want to buy the cheapest possible graphics card that had 2 HDMIs so I can connect one to my monitor and the other on the TV.

How would I check what graphics card supports my motherboard?

The PC will mainly be used for entertainment (watching movies etc) and at times I may play SAMP on it.

Well i think if it fits then it works. Just look what socket your motherboard have for GPU, and find card with that socket.
Title: Re: Graphics Card
Post by: brian1996 on April 07, 2014, 03:24:03 pm
Well i think if it fits then it works. Just look what socket your motherboard have for GPU, and find card with that socket.
That's for the CPU, the socket has nothing to do about which graphics card fits on the motherboard.
I want to buy the cheapest possible graphics card that had 2 HDMIs so I can connect one to my monitor and the other on the TV.

How would I check what graphics card supports my motherboard?

The PC will mainly be used for entertainment (watching movies etc) and at times I may play SAMP on it.
As long as your motherboard has a PCI-e 3.0 16x slot any GPU will fit (since the mobo is more important towards CPU and wiring).
You would be good by buying a AMD GPU, a R7 260x will be around 120 euros or you can also go with a last gen product wich is about 80 euros, either way both provide plenty of horsepower.
Still finding a GPU that has 2 HDMI ports will be hard since most of them only have one and use display and DVI ports as primary connectors, you would be better off by connecting your monitor with a display port and the tv with HDMI.
Also make sure you have enough length room to fit the GPU in the case.
Title: Re: Graphics Card
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 04:37:46 pm
That's for the CPU, the socket has nothing to do about which graphics card fits on the motherboard.As long as your motherboard has a PCI-e 3.0 16x slot any GPU will fit (since the mobo is more important towards CPU and wiring).
You would be good by buying a AMD GPU, a R7 260x will be around 120 euros or you can also go with a last gen product wich is about 80 euros, either way both provide plenty of horsepower.
Still finding a GPU that has 2 HDMI ports will be hard since most of them only have one and use display and DVI ports as primary connectors, you would be better off by connecting your monitor with a display port and the tv with HDMI.
Also make sure you have enough length room to fit the GPU in the case.

Sorry but all this is another language to me. Let me show you a picture of my PC, maybe that might help.

(http://i60.tinypic.com/2qb5a4y.jpg)
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: brian1996 on April 07, 2014, 04:49:34 pm
Do you by any chance know the name of that motherboard, since i can't tell wether it has a 2.0 or 3.0 PCI slot by looking at the pic.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Devin on April 07, 2014, 05:00:53 pm
Intel motherboards have a strange way of displaying the model numbers however it's safe to say that the PCI-E slot is a 16x version.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 05:03:29 pm
Gibberish yet again  :lol:

how do I know whether it has 2.0 or 3.0?
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Devin on April 07, 2014, 05:07:17 pm
Find the motherboard model number  :gand:

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-010687.htm
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 05:08:47 pm
Find the motherboard model number  :gand:

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-010687.htm

Sadly I cant atm, my HDD is corrupt on the PC.

Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: brian1996 on April 07, 2014, 05:09:58 pm
Intel motherboards have a strange way of displaying the model numbers however it's safe to say that the PCI-E slot is a 16x version.
True. The generation however is important to determine which GPUs it can run.
Gibberish yet again  :lol:

how do I know whether it has 2.0 or 3.0?
You need the motherboard's name or model number and then you are able to find its specs on the internet.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 05:11:53 pm
True. The generation however is important to determine which GPUs it can run.You need the motherboard's name or model number and then you are able to find its specs on the internet.

So based on the information above, I can then get a graphics card?
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: brian1996 on April 07, 2014, 05:15:29 pm
Yes, all you need to know now is what generation that slot is running. If it's a 3.0 slot it will run any GPU, if it's a 2.0 slot then your choices will be lowered but costs will be a lot lower as well.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 05:16:49 pm
Yes, all you need to know now is what generation that slot is running. If it's a 3.0 slot it will run any GPU, if it's a 2.0 slot then your choices will be lowered but costs will be a lot lower as well.

I used BIOS to access this information as my PC does not have HDD atm.

Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Product name: DG35EC
Version: AAE29266-206
Serial number: BTEC8460050D
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Devin on April 07, 2014, 05:20:11 pm
Only Gen 2.0 PCI-E 16x by the looks of it as stated here: http://ark.intel.com/products/34689/Intel-Desktop-Board-dg35ec
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 05:23:17 pm
Only Gen 2.0 PCI-E 16x by the looks of it as stated here: http://ark.intel.com/products/34689/Intel-Desktop-Board-dg35ec

So now I would have to use '2.0 PCI-E 16X' when it comes to finding myself a graphics card?
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: brian1996 on April 07, 2014, 05:27:48 pm
Yes, prices vary from 30 to 110 euros (still i wouldn't go too low on spending since peformance might be weak when it's too cheap).
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 05:30:04 pm
Yes, prices vary from 30 to 110 euros (still i wouldn't go too low on spending since peformance might be weak when it's too cheap).

I live in London so the currency is different here, the maximum I would spend on this is £50 which is 60 euros. Could I get a decent one with that money?

Bare in mind this PC will only be used entertainment wise so no server hosting, game playing and all that.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: brian1996 on April 07, 2014, 05:33:09 pm
You are able to get something good with it.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 05:34:32 pm
You are able to get something good with it.

Great and as I am doing some research on these graphics cards I came across some DDR's. Which one am I?
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: brian1996 on April 07, 2014, 05:39:09 pm
That's the memory of the GPU, it doesn't really have anything to do with the other pc components.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 05:44:09 pm
That's the memory of the GPU, it doesn't really have anything to do with the other pc components.

Oh but I'm currently looking at the specs of a graphics card and it says

Product DescriptionEVGA GeForce GT 610 graphics card - GF GT 610 - 1 GB
Device TypeGraphics card
Bus TypePCI Express 2.0 x16
Graphics EngineNVIDIA GeForce GT 610
Memory 1GB - DDR3
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: brian1996 on April 07, 2014, 05:45:14 pm
Yep, that's the amount of memory and memory type your GPU has. It's the GPU's own memory that it's using to work with.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 05:57:34 pm
Yep, that's the amount of memory and memory type your GPU has. It's the GPU's own memory that it's using to work with.

Ok, thank you.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 09:49:29 pm
In terms of potentially buying a new power supply, is there anything I should look out for?
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Luke on April 07, 2014, 09:55:59 pm
Kaze you can get a 600w PSU off Ebay for £20

and the GPU I have 6670 1GB DDR5 is £50 and its a great card!
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 09:59:58 pm
Kaze you can get a 600w PSU off Ebay for £20

and the GPU I have 6670 1GB DDR5 is £50 and its a great card!

For £20? Is it reliable?

The graphics card you mentioned, does it fit my criteria?
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Luke on April 07, 2014, 10:10:24 pm
For £20? Is it reliable?

The graphics card you mentioned, does it fit my criteria?

Yes, I have had this PSU for over a year now and it is very decent.
Also the GPU I recommend does infact fit your motherboard etc.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 10:20:43 pm
Yes, I have had this PSU for over a year now and it is very decent.
Also the GPU I recommend does infact fit your motherboard etc.

Great, I'll take that into account. Thanks.

When you buy a new PSU, does the cables come with it?
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Luke on April 07, 2014, 10:22:54 pm
Yeah ofcourse lol.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 10:27:34 pm
What if the power cables that come with the PSU are different to the slots I have on my motherboard?
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Luke on April 07, 2014, 10:29:27 pm
What if the power cables that come with the PSU are different to the slots I have on my motherboard?

You have to look that up, by the looks of it your board is a SATA board, so you buy a PSU what has SATA connectors :)
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 07, 2014, 10:30:32 pm
You have to look that up, by the looks of it your board is a SATA board, so you buy a PSU what has SATA connectors :)

Ok thanks
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 08, 2014, 12:02:46 pm
After a recent check on the performance of my processor and motherboard, here are the results

Processor - 32 degrees Celsius
Motherboard - 80-83 degrees Celsius

I had an issue before with the Processor but all I had to do is buy thermal paste. Not sure what is happening to my motherboard though!



Here is when the computer is on desktop

(http://i60.tinypic.com/2nhlsmh.png)



Here is when the computer is playing youtube (look at CPU)

(http://i61.tinypic.com/23mol8z.png)
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 09, 2014, 02:30:15 pm
Just an update

I removed all the components in my  PC and cleaned out everything, no dust.
I tided up the cables.
I also added an extra fan.

The motherboard is still at 80 degrees.

I am also using the programme Speccy.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Janar on April 10, 2014, 04:00:48 pm
The only thing that I can think of, is faulty sensor, which is reporting incorrect temperature. Or it is the only sensor reporting in Fahrenheits (80 F is 26.6 Celsius), while computer is using Celsius.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Devin on April 10, 2014, 04:06:32 pm
The motherboard temperature is more than likely being picked up behind the CPU where there is no airflow nor cooling ability.
It's really nothing to worry about, just make sure you keep your system clean every so often.

Also have a look here - http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=289546
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Kaze on April 10, 2014, 05:11:06 pm
The only thing that I can think of, is faulty sensor, which is reporting incorrect temperature. Or it is the only sensor reporting in Fahrenheits (80 F is 26.6 Celsius), while computer is using Celsius.

It is in Celsius. But it may be a faulty sensor.



The motherboard temperature is more than likely being picked up behind the CPU where there is no airflow nor cooling ability.
It's really nothing to worry about, just make sure you keep your system clean every so often.

Also have a look here - http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=289546

Sure I will keep it clean. Does it make a big difference if I leave one of the side panels open? It still says 80 regardless
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: Devin on April 10, 2014, 06:20:20 pm
It won't make much of a difference whether the case is open or not but it will affect the airflow through the case.
Title: Re: HDMI cable question
Post by: SugarD on April 16, 2014, 05:25:08 pm
You have to look that up, by the looks of it your board is a SATA board, so you buy a PSU what has SATA connectors :)
Pinouts will also matter. He needs to know if his motherboard has a 20 or 24 pin plug, and whether it is ATX standard or proprietary. Also, the video card may need an external power source, so the power supply will need an available matching plug for that.

Lastly, reliability with power supplies is major. You'll want one with decent, stable rails on it, which has a high enough wattage rating to output more power than your computer needs at peak usage.

Another big thing to not forget: Computers get hot. Make sure your existing/desired cooling system can handle the new video card and power supply without things getting too toasty.
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