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Title: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Zlatan on March 27, 2014, 09:07:35 pm
ORIGINALLY POSTED ON STEAM FORUMS:

Howdy fellas of Steam!

I'd like to ask a question regarding Garry's Mod, since its one of my favorite games. I paid for a "new" pc, its actually used but its good for me. What I really want is GMOD to run without any lag at ALL, even on all high settings. On the requirementslab website when I scan if I can run the game, it says all GOOD, RECOMMENDED settings, which is actually the fastest, it means I can run the game at high speeds, but actually.. When I look at loads of stuff or lots of players, I get lag, or when I join a big map, or such. Also, it lags at loading screen, takes alot to load up.

My PC specs:

2GB RAM
1GB 6yr old I think graphics card, ATI RADEON HD 3600 SERIES, approx. memory 1275MB...
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 DUAL CORE PROCESSOR 6000+ (2 CPU's) 3.00 GHz
DirectX 11

I want it to run at extremely big speeds, what should I upgrade, graphics card or add more ram, or both?

Is the problem with graphics card? Because when I upgraded my processor, it was a bit faster, but I'm still not that satisfied.

What do you think about more RAM like 2GB so it would be 4GB, graphics card (old motherboard, can't support too much ram), and what card should I buy? I want it extremely cheap tho. Like, just tell me what should I upgrade, don't recommend me any cards.

IS THE ACTUAL PROBLEM WITH THE GRAPHICS CARD, OR WHAT?

Thanks, sincerely RandomZ3.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Luke on March 27, 2014, 09:19:20 pm
Personally I would upgrade your;

RAM to 4GB - 8GB
and I would also upgrade to a new model GPU, as the one you have now is really outdated.

If you need any help with components shoot me a pm!
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Ragdoll on March 27, 2014, 09:25:50 pm
Also, it lags at loading screen, takes alot to load up.
Just a note: this happens with all Source games. It's completely normal, pay no attention to it.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: brian1996 on March 27, 2014, 09:26:28 pm
Really outdated components, it's ancient technology IMO.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Zlatan on March 27, 2014, 09:27:43 pm
Personally I would upgrade your;

RAM to 4GB - 8GB
and I would also upgrade to a new model GPU, as the one you have now is really outdated.

If you need any help with components shoot me a pm!
Really helpful man I appreciate it. I think 8GB is too much and my motherboard can't take that much, but it can take 4GB. Anyhow, GPU, right. I'm just curious if the GPU would actually fix the problem so I dont end up wasting money for nothing.

Really outdated components, it's ancient technology IMO.
Not everyone is in the financial state to buy newer technology, especially in a fucked up country as this.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Luke on March 27, 2014, 09:33:33 pm
Really helpful man I appreciate it. I think 8GB is too much and my motherboard can't take that much, but it can take 4GB. Anyhow, GPU, right. I'm just curious if the GPU would actually fix the problem so I dont end up wasting money for nothing.

Yes having a better graphics card will make your performance much better, and you will be able to play GMOD.

Also what is your GPU budget? (how much you wanna spend)

I have a budget graphics card (Asus Radeon 6670 1GB GDDR5 OC Edition) cost me £50 and it can play GMod fine so if you have enough money, Id suggest to buy that card due to the fact it is a budgetable card and still has great performance.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Zlatan on March 27, 2014, 09:41:57 pm
Yes having a better graphics card will make your performance much better, and you will be able to play GMOD.

Also what is your GPU budget? (how much you wanna spend)

I have a budget graphics card (Asus Radeon 6670 1GB GDDR5 OC Edition) cost me £50 and it can play GMod fine so if you have enough money, Id suggest to buy that card due to the fact it is a budgetable card and still has great performance.
Thing is I got scammed, I believe the £ and KM (convertible marks) are different, but I paid 100 KM here for this card, and it doesn't really change any performance. Like, I can play GTA IV on lowest settings like 10 - 20 fps, and GMOD on like 60 FPS even 120 sometimes (extremely rare) but it lags on alot of objects.

I'm just curious and I know I'm annoying, but if I surely buy a better GPU, will the entire thing change like will I be able to play on the HIGHEST settings (depending on the GPU)? Or does another part of the PC matter for that?

Anyhow, I REALLY appreciate the help. I'm not willing to spend alot, I'm willing like 120KM perhaps which is around 50 pounds. (thats like so low, and here 120KM is sooo high, like for 120KM i can buy 240 bags of chips, how much can you buy for 50 pounds? Weird measurement though...) lol.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Luke on March 27, 2014, 09:43:51 pm
What is your currency called ill use the google converter, aha,

But bottom line is if you want a decent FPS and be able to run these games at higher settings the best thing for you to do is purchase some RAM and a better GPU.
having both RAM and GPU will allow you to run these games.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Zlatan on March 27, 2014, 09:48:25 pm
What is your currency called ill use the google converter, aha,

But bottom line is if you want a decent FPS and be able to run these games at higher settings the best thing for you to do is purchase some RAM and a better GPU.
having both RAM and GPU will allow you to run these games.
BAM (Bosnian convertibile mark)
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Ragdoll on March 27, 2014, 09:52:59 pm
BAM (Bosnian convertibile mark)
That must be fun to use.
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"How much will that be?"
"90 BAMs."
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Luke on March 27, 2014, 09:53:41 pm
For the card I said you will be paying 118 KM which is not all bad considering you are saying your budget is 120 KM.

and for £50 I could buy 84 bags of Walkers Crisps.

Im not that fat just saying..

But yeah if you want more ram also you may have to save up and buy ram as that is a key part aswell.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Ted on March 27, 2014, 10:03:26 pm
Save money and buy used but decent hardware.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Zlatan on March 27, 2014, 10:17:31 pm
That must be fun to use.
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"How much will that be?"
"90 BAMs."

Haha, we actually say KM or marks, but that would be hilarious

For the card I said you will be paying 118 KM which is not all bad considering you are saying your budget is 120 KM.

and for £50 I could buy 84 bags of Walkers Crisps.

Im not that fat just saying..

But yeah if you want more ram also you may have to save up and buy ram as that is a key part aswell.
I see, thanks man, appreciated very much!

Save money and buy used but decent hardware.
I did buy a new processor, added 1GB ram, changed the case, I don't want to buy a new one, really. Just upgrade.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Aca on March 27, 2014, 10:20:07 pm
You may get a decent PC for 500 euros which isn't much, better than upgrading your current one.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Skecis on March 27, 2014, 10:29:39 pm
Personally I would upgrade your;

RAM to 4GB - 8GB
and I would also upgrade to a new model GPU, as the one you have now is really outdated.

If you need any help with components shoot me a pm!

I dont think you need actually more than 4gb of ram for gaming! I got 4gb and there is no probelm with that.

Got good AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series Graph Card and Athlon II X2 260 CPU (this one probably i will need to change soon too :d)

 For real hardcore gamimg only thing i need is SSD hard disk!
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Ted on March 27, 2014, 10:33:23 pm
Yeah that's what i mean instead of buying new ram or a new card purchase used ones which are still in working order it just saves you from paying top wack.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Bundy on March 27, 2014, 10:43:34 pm
Every component you named needs an upgrade, if you want to play with 100 fps.

I suggest looking for a second-hand computer with better components.
Usually saves a lot of money.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Skecis on March 27, 2014, 10:49:14 pm
My PC specs:

2GB RAM
1GB 6yr old I think graphics card, ATI RADEON HD 3600 SERIES, approx. memory 1275MB...
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 DUAL CORE PROCESSOR 6000+ (2 CPU's) 3.00 GHz
DirectX 11


4GB ram and 64 bit windows!

Your GPU - do not support DirectX 11 (by info @ amd.com)
                  any card with lees than 500-600 Millions transistors in now days are not good (mostly)   
                  Memory Type GDDR4 for best you would need GDDR5 but i guess your mother board do not
                  support that

CPU - Probably CPU with AM3 socket would be better, but im not sure about that (and again - if you have CPU with AM2 socket, your motherboard do not support AM3)
               
                 
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Skecis on March 27, 2014, 10:52:36 pm

and what card should I buy? I want it extremely cheap tho. Like, just tell me what should I upgrade, don't recommend me any cards.

1)Priceless!
2)One of millions of gamers - I want it cheap but i still want my PC to be like those 10k$ Gaming Computers!

Use google, out there are special pages that compare CPUs, GPUs etc. looks for best price/perfomance cards/procesors etc and buy, anyway probably not something that you really need! if you dont have your own income or your parrents dont support all those finances, better forgot it now!

But anyway - when i was buying my PC, i started with best motherboard and shitty components. You need good motherboard so even after 5years you can put in new cards/chips/procesors. If you buy just some PC with good cards, but with old motherboard, you will regret it after few years, when you want to upgrade, but none of new components will fit it. Ofcourse my motherboard is not new nowdays :D (2011 i think)
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: brian1996 on March 27, 2014, 11:02:37 pm
Every component you named needs an upgrade, if you want to play with 100 fps.
I doubt his monitor even supports that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sph6cjJeRdI
Sums up why you shouldn't buy cheap garbage, especially when it comes to the GPU.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Skecis on March 27, 2014, 11:05:23 pm
I doubt his monitor even supports that.

I doubt he will see difference between 60 and 100 fps, as only game says its not 100 fps. That being said, i think anything above 30-40 FPS is something ppl cant really see, but im no doctor so..
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: brian1996 on March 27, 2014, 11:18:07 pm
I doubt he will see difference between 60 and 100 fps, as only game says its not 100 fps. That being said, i think anything above 30-40 FPS is something ppl cant really see, but im no doctor so..
That difference is definitely noticeable, play on a 120hz or 144hz monitor for like 30 mins to a hour and then try switching to a 60hz monitor.

As to the issue with the RAM, 2GB isn't enough. I'm 99% sure that your game lags due to the amount of workload that is put onto your RAM wich can't be handled all at once due to the low memory. You should replace them and get 2 second handed 4GB modules or atleast 1. I'm sure your motherboard has 2 slots and support it.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Skecis on March 27, 2014, 11:24:13 pm
That difference is definitely noticeable, play on a 120hz or 144hz monitor for like 30 mins to a hour and then try switching to a 60hz monitor.

As to the issue with the RAM, you should get 2 second handed 4GB modules. I'm sure your motherboard supports it.

And sure difference is what memory type your motherboard supports! (DDR2, DDR3, etc.)
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: Zlatan on March 27, 2014, 11:54:23 pm
My RAM supports DDR2, and I have two more slots.
Title: Re: Graphics Card (GMOD)
Post by: brian1996 on March 27, 2014, 11:58:42 pm
My RAM supports DDR2, and I have two more slots.
There ya go, there are retailers that still sell DDR2 memory kits or else you can find them online. Since it's DDR2 you can get them very cheap.
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