Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Jcstodds on May 01, 2014, 07:43:29 pm
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AMWC 2014?
Hello all!
Firstly I hope everyone is well and enjoying RS5! I have yet to try it myself as I am still busy with studies so this discussion will be a nice distraction for me. I want to know about the feasibility of running an AMWC event this summer (June-July) in Argonath RPG.
So I will summarise what this is about:
What: The Argonath Motorsports World Championship [AMWC] is the largest motorsports event in Argonath held yearly since 2012 with various flavours of races, DDs and other vehicle related competitions. Last year there was like 50 events and each involved many players and teams.
2012 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=79728.0)
2013 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=94561.0)
Pictures from 2013 (https://www.facebook.com/jcstodds/media_set?set=a.361190124003276.1073741825.100003368745972&type=3)
Where: Argonath RPG RS5 (SA:MP)
When: June/ July
Questions
To know if this would be possible...
- Is there ARA script support in RS5 like before (is there barriers) - if not, suggestions on how to confine the events.
- Is there scope to provide more RP within the events? (RP jobs)
- Can the economy handle it?
- Could any new features improve races? (e.g. mechanic, fuel system)
- Will there be enough players
- Is there enough state vehicles or player owned cars to make races fair
- Is there a car spawn system that could be used to make races?
I may add more points for discussion if they are mentioned. Please mind that I do not know RS5 scripts well.
So, AMWC '14 - any good?
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Damn YES! Lovin' it.
1. Yes, there's ARA script included in RS5. We could use barricades for the event(s).
2. Maybe, if it would be used properly. For example; There's a mechanic to fix all the vehicle(s) before the race starts.
3. Yes, you can easy handle the economy. Get some volunteers who could support you within the event(s).
4. Yes, you can get a part within the track, called as (Fixing vehicle(s) area). You can hire some MECHANICS who'll be there to fix player's vehicle which could increase RP and would look some thing like real race. They can fix there vehicle on their own risks.
5. Yes, if it would be on a suitable time. A time when most of the players are online.
6. There are enough state vehicle(s) around San Andreas. People nowadays are really rich to purchase a vehicle.
7. No, I don't think that there's a system like that.
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Actually, good idea. But this is motorsport so we need much money and buy a good motorcycle. All in all this is a competition and if you got best car/motorcycle, you can be first easily. I think the biggest problem might be lack of money but we can solve it by finding a sponsor to afford expenses.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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4. Yes, you can get a part within the track, called as (Fixing vehicle(s) area). You can hire some MECHANICS who'll be there to fix player's vehicle which could increase RP and would look some thing like real race. They can fix there vehicle on their own risks.
Really liked your idea. Like PIT Stop in Formula 1. If your car almost exploded, you can make "PIT Stop" to repair your car.
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I dont know about the others but so far i cannot afford to buy vehicles for the races. Also about the date. In greece the school exams end in mid june so id like to know if it is possible to delay it for the greek participants
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Nice to see you, Jcs.
Your events in 2012 and 2013 are something best that Argonath has offered.
It would be nice to have them this year too, but im not sure that it's possible to be done on such a high level as past years.
Cheers.
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I dont know about the others but so far i cannot afford to buy vehicles for the races. Also about the date. In greece the school exams end in mid june so id like to know if it is possible to delay it for the greek participants
If anyone says that he cannot afford vehicle so I think he's wrong. You got a whole month to earn money and get your self a vehicle.
Nice to see you, Jcs.
Your events in 2012 and 2013 are something best that Argonath has offered.
It would be nice to have them this year too, but im not sure that it's possible to be done on such a high level as past years.
Cheers.
Mind explaining "high level" please?
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yes we want a new AMWC
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YEEES!
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Yes, but I can't afford a car.
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Yes, but I can't afford a car.
If anyone says that he cannot afford vehicle so I think he's wrong. You got a whole month to earn money and get your self a vehicle.
Other then this, there are millions for state vehicle around, you can use any of it.
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Mind explaining "high level" please?
I think he means that as the RS5 has released and the economy is low at the moment, So the "high level" means that the prizes were high in RS4 but as the economy of RS5 is low then the prizes of AMWC will also be low as compared to RS4.
Anyways I am waiting for AMWC since last year as I was not able to join it last year, so this time I am free. I really want AMWC 2014.
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I think he means that as the RS5 has released and the economy is low at the moment, So the "high level" means that the prizes were high in RS4 but as the economy of RS5 is low then the prizes of AMWC will also be low as compared to RS4.
Anyways I am waiting for AMWC since last year as I was not able to join it past year, so this year I am free. I really want AMWC 2014.
If he mean this so he's a point correct. However, players around the server are always on fireman duty and have made money above 200k or more. Thou he can get support for the server management.
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However, players around the server are always on fireman duty and have made money above 200k or more
There are more players with less than 20k than those who have more than 200k.
Thou
(http://i.imgur.com/ZMIjYWz.png)
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There are more players with less than 20k than those who have more than 200k.
Correct.
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Other then this, there are millions for state vehicle around, you can use any of it.
Read it carefully.
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AMWC 2014?
Questions
To know if this would be possible...
- Is there ARA script support in RS5 like before (is there barriers) - if not, suggestions on how to confine the events.
Yes, and ofc barriers exists =)[/list]
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Motorcycle races.
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Damn YES! Lovin' it.
1. Yes, there's ARA script included in RS5. We could use barricades for the event(s).
2. Maybe, if it would be used properly. For example; There's a mechanic to fix all the vehicle(s) before the race starts.
3. Yes, you can easy handle the economy. Get some volunteers who could support you within the event(s).
4. Yes, you can get a part within the track, called as (Fixing vehicle(s) area). You can hire some MECHANICS who'll be there to fix player's vehicle which could increase RP and would look some thing like real race. They can fix there vehicle on their own risks.
5. Yes, if it would be on a suitable time. A time when most of the players are online.
6. There are enough state vehicle(s) around San Andreas. People nowadays are really rich to purchase a vehicle.
7. No, I don't think that there's a system like that.
I think you covered most of my questions :P
2. I was thinking side jobs like food vendors, bookies (gambling taking bets), event security (tickets etc), some other entertainment for the spectators.
3. Probably will get government funding, or will have to rob LSPD again for drugs. Private sponsorships were always a bonus.
As for the Mechanic system, this would allow us to have PIT stops, meaning true endurance races (if there is demand for it). It would also make events run much more smoothly - especially for those bumps and scrapes incurred in the starting line!
Actually, good idea. But this is motorsport so we need much money and buy a good motorcycle. All in all this is a competition and if you got best car/motorcycle, you can be first easily. I think the biggest problem might be lack of money but we can solve it by finding a sponsor to afford expenses.
There would be a wide variety of events where no 1 vehicle could dominate them all. The ideal solution would be for the government to provide racing vehicles, or rent them as sponsorship (i.e. spawn them for events for a fee).
If there isn't enough suitable vehicles for the events, some may have to be limited to a certain class of vehicle.
Your events in 2012 and 2013 are something best that Argonath has offered.
It would be nice to have them this year too, but im not sure that it's possible to be done on such a high level as past years.
Hey man! It will depend on the time I have available, unfortunately I doubt I will be able to do 50 events again :sweat: and the prizes would have to be altered to suite the economy. This wouldn't necessarily mean the events would be scaled down or of lesser quality than before, I hope anyway.
In greece the school exams end in mid june so id like to know if it is possible to delay it for the greek participants
I won't know the date until nearer the time unfortunately but fingers crossed.
Yes, and ofc barriers exists =)[/list]
Hey! This is good news. It did cross my mind that I would have to hire bus drivers to block the roads :(
Motorcycle races.
Yes there will be bike races and other bike related events no doubt.
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As for the Mechanic system, this would allow us to have PIT stops, meaning true endurance races (if there is demand for it). It would also make events run much more smoothly - especially for those bumps and scrapes incurred in the starting line!
There would be a wide variety of events where no 1 vehicle could dominate them all. The ideal solution would be for the government to provide racing vehicles, or rent them as sponsorship (i.e. spawn them for events for a fee).
If there isn't enough suitable vehicles for the events, some may have to be limited to a certain class of vehicle.
Those are so sensible ideas! As I said, we have to find out the source of that money as if the government will help us (I'm with you), we can arrange this competition easily. Unless they do, we must find some sponsors to help us or the participants must buy their motorcycles (this way might be bad for participants).
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I think you covered most of my questions :P
2. I was thinking side jobs like food vendors, bookies (gambling taking bets), event security (tickets etc), some other entertainment for the spectators.
3. Probably will get government funding, or will have to rob LSPD again for drugs. Private sponsorships were always a bonus.
For sure, if the server's management would like this idea to bring AMWC back, they might support you with economy.
Side job, for example; There's a racing track and on the left side, there is a random person holding a stall. The people who are interested placing bets on the racers they could just kindly stand there (A person who could really hold this job). A fix amount shall be decided.
As before, there will be judges for sure.
event security (tickets etc).
It seems to be a good idea. Every team/player have to register their name in-game and buy a entry ticket. Ticket could cost anything which you like is suitable. The money which are earned through the ticket shall be used in any other event. It could help out to control the economy.[/list]
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If i'd ever have a car, i want something original ok? not the same boring car race uh?
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There are group vehicles too. If a player is not able to purchase a car, he can use his group vehicle if he belongs to any group.
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There are group vehicles too. If a player is not able to purchase a car, he can use his group vehicle if he belongs to any group.
Well, now that groups have more script support, why not give 5 vehicles to a AMWC group ? Always, if the HQ agrees.
Group AMWC-TestGroup
Player1
Player2, etc.
Vehicle - Infernus
Vehicle - Sultan
Vehicle - Sandking
Vehicle - NRG-500
Vehicle - Mower :D
I'm really looking forward to attend AMWC this year. Could raise the player-count a lot.
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I don't know about the group car system, but in theory, would it be possible for AMWC to spawn several cars for the events using this system?
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I don't know about the group car system, but in theory, would it be possible for AMWC to spawn several cars for the events using this system?
If you create /group AMWC the maximum vehicleammount would be 5
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If you create /group AMWC the maximum vehicleammount would be 5
5 cars makes no sense, since its always around 25-50 playors taking a part of this event. But those 5 vechicles can be like staff vechicles. Like a example...Dozer and other heavy or sportcars.
But there is alot of state cars, also some groups/Claes/family got sportcars as groupvehicle. :)
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There are group vehicles too. If a player is not able to purchase a car, he can use his group vehicle if he belongs to any group.
Agreed. Or there should be a player who race for his family, like representative.
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Agreed. Or there should be a player who race for his family, like representative.
Since every group have 5 cars then 5 people from each group can race and representative their group. :)
Cops can use their own police cars :)
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Since every group have 5 cars then 5 people from each group can race and representative their group. :)
Cops can use their own police cars :)
Not every group can afford sports cars or have sports cars.
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Since every group have 5 cars then 5 people from each group can race and representative their group. :)
Cops can use their own police cars :)
You know, groups don't buy racing cars. Just a car. And I think cops must not use their cop cars. It harms to roleplay.
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Not every group can afford sports cars or have sports cars.
Yeah, what he said. I got an admiral, I won't drag against an infernus with that.
And no, there's mostly cadrona's, blista's, premiers and things like that as state cars. There's only two infernuses, one buffalo, one sultan, one sandking. And an event usually has like 30-40players.
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It would be awesome.
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If only there was some way to acquire 30 of the same vehicle to make interesting and fair races :uhm:
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Ask Sauron! i'm sure he will spawn them for this high purpouse :gand:
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Yeah, i would like to participate!
Though i do not own a car i will use a state one! :D
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Hahaha!!!
I can build a Running lap arena, then we can have Argonath marathon 2014 and no Bunny jump =)
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Hahaha!!!
I can build a Running lap arena, then we can have Argonath marathon 2014 and no Bunny jump =)
I was thinking I could host a race at the same time, on the same track, with trucks.
As a joke though. But now I am considering having an event where people are allowed to run in the track to make it more interesting.
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Can't wait for it. :strong:
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we should make a spawn car feature. cuz a lot of people doesn't have enough money to buy a nice race car
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There have been 5 months+ rs5 released, still no money to buy car? If you don't work for money then you won't get them automatically.
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There have been 5 months+ rs5 released, still no money to buy car? If you don't work for money then you won't get them automatically.
There are much more important things to do,just saying.
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I would love to see this event on summer! :D
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I would love to see this event on summer! :D
Yes. :D
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Devin not all our group had 2 cars which we have bought
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There are much more important things to do,just saying.
If you won't earn money then you can not afford a car, If you can't afford a car then you can't participate in AMWC, simple.
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Well guys, you can just work from now till the event so you collect money and buy the most vehicle that suit you for it. It's not that hard...
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Summer holidays are running, I hope those events will be hold in it. :)
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Yeah, i would like to see AMWC this year too! :rolleyes:
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I would prefer if there was some kind of car spawning capability- this would allow fair races of the same vehicles (not all races would be like this, as I prefer variety) and could call for some interesting events.
I will have to talk to the managers at some point beforehand anyway and maybe something can be negotiated. Don't get your hopes up though, start saving!
And if you win an event or two, the prizes will hopefully be balanced so you can afford a car.
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After having a go on RS5 in the past few weeks, I haven't really rekindled any interest in playing SA:MP again. After giving it some thought it is very unlikely that I will host the AMWC this year.
There may be a possibility of hosting it on GTAV on PC in the winter.
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After having a go on RS5 in the past few weeks, I haven't really rekindled any interest in playing SA:MP again. After giving it some thought it is very unlikely that I will host the AMWC this year.
There may be a possibility of hosting it on GTAV on PC in the winter.
You have my attention. This would be one hell of an event.
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There may be a possibility of hosting it on GTAV on PC in the winter.
As long as I get my new PC and GTA V, you're allowed ;P This would be pretty kick ass.
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No idea if anyone posted this yet, but I would like to have races that are less derby-like, and more like actual racing. Having 40 players in a single race is simply insane and causes the judges to count incorrectly (causing people who are winning to suddenly lose). So, instead of having one race, have multiple 5 (or so) player races, which are played in some sort of bracket-style (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket_(tournament)) tournament.
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I'd love one but I can't afford a car :(
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Yea sure, gamedebate tells me that i can run the game with a green tick, i bet i wont be able to run it on minium anyways...
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No idea if anyone posted this yet, but I would like to have races that are less derby-like, and more like actual racing. Having 40 players in a single race is simply insane and causes the judges to count incorrectly (causing people who are winning to suddenly lose). So, instead of having one race, have multiple 5 (or so) player races, which are played in some sort of bracket-style (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket_(tournament)) tournament.
Nah, boring :D
It takes a lot of luck and skill to win. Each win is usually a big achievement. And it's the Motorsport World Championship - not just racing.
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Nah, boring :D
It takes a lot of luck and skill to win. Each win is usually a big achievement. And it's the Motorsport World Championship - not just racing.
Considering how I have lost multiple times because judges just decided I'm no longer leading, I think it would only be fair. It barely takes any skill to win with that.
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So this montyh AMWC started????
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So this montyh AMWC started????
You should read more before posting.
After having a go on RS5 in the past few weeks, I haven't really rekindled any interest in playing SA:MP again. After giving it some thought it is very unlikely that I will host the AMWC this year.
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You should read more before posting.
Alrighe ok.