Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => World and local news => Topic started by: Twister on May 14, 2014, 09:42:18 pm
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So there's gonna be war between UE and Russia ? And if it is so... males with the ages between 20-35 are obligated to defend their country ? And what is Romania's faith ? Because we're strategic points at the border between us and Russia.
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go russia :gand: :gand: :gand: :gand:
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Go go go Russia! :war: :bananarock: :bananav:
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G7 say no more :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Nah, they aren't that stupid.
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Not yet lol.
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Can't wait, this world needs another blood bath.
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Hmm, not sure why you cannot wait. It will take thousands of lives..
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Hmm, not sure why you cannot wait. It will take thousands of lives..
Finally, someone with sense.
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So there's gonna be war between UE and Russia ? And if it is so... males with the ages between 20-35 are obligated to defend their country ? And what is Romania's faith ? Because we're strategic points at the border between us and Russia.
Isn't the situation confined to within Eastern Europe? I haven't come across an article about United Arab Emirates getting into a beef with Russia.
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Isn't the situation confined to within Eastern Europe? I haven't come across an article about United Arab Emirates getting into a beef with Russia.
He means between EU and Russia, which is also incorrect. Also in a hypothetical situation where let's say there would be a war between one EU member who is not part of NATO(Finland, Sweden) then other EU members does not have to be war with Russia, but only show solidarity toward the EU country. What does solidarity mean in this context is not written anywhere.
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Hopefully, there will be no war. That would mean the conscript goes on in Sweden, since it has for a few years now been disabled for only in times of crises. (And a war is a crisis, ofc)
That would mean, I would need to kill you all! :rolleyes:
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I haven't come across an article about United Arab Emirates getting into a beef with Russia.
wat
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So there's gonna be war between UE and Russia ? And if it is so... males with the ages between 20-35 are obligated to defend their country ? And what is Romania's faith ? Because we're strategic points at the border between us and Russia.
wat
Yeah, just realized it's a typo but I didn't see it as that when I posted :(
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Hmm, not sure why you cannot wait. It will take thousands of lives..
Because Murikuh won't be the strongest country anymore.
And no, there's no way USA would risk their "rank" for strategic position and moar oil or something.
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Because Murikuh won't be the strongest country anymore.
Lol, I don't know why you are so sure about this.
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Lol, I don't know why you are so sure about this.
I'm not so sure, just saying that they are risking.
And yeah, USA could be taken down with just one simple move from Arab side, but they got more important things to do, like protesting against every thing that they think of.
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Quite a lot of narrow minded people in this topic, it also appears everyone is suddenly an expert on world affairs! :cowboy:
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Quite a lot of narrow minded people in this topic, it also appears everyone is suddenly an expert on world affairs! :cowboy:
No, it's just my opinion lol.
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I'm not so sure, just saying that they are risking.
And yeah, USA could be taken down with just one simple move from Arab side, but they got more important things to do, like protesting against every thing that they think of.
I thought we were talking about USA and Russia here...
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Quite a lot of narrow minded people in this topic, it also appears everyone is suddenly an expert on world affairs! :cowboy:
Lel, this happens on every thread on this board
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war is bad
be a lover, not a fighter :weed:
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I thought we were talking about USA and Russia here...
We are.
Russia would just 1945 the shit out of USA.
juss my opinion
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Russia would just 1945 the shit out of USA.
Actually that's the problem. Russia is a 20th century war machine, however we're in the 21st century.
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Actually that's the problem. Russia is a 20th century war machine, however we're in the 21st century.
You mean that Russia still lives in 20 century? No, west lives in a big lie.
And I ment that Russia would just end USA.
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You mean that Russia still lives in 20 century? No, west lives in a big lie.
And I ment that Russia would just end USA.
No, that USA has a more advanced army, and that it, together with its allies, has more advantages. USA has direct entrance to the main oceans, whereas Russia doesn't. That's why Russia focused on improving their ground warfare more, and even probably is stronger than USA in that area. With all the British and U.S. bases surrounding Russia, and NATO's firepower, I don't think you should be claiming such things.
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Not sure if the question is: who is the best, the United States or Russia? I think the question is: what is it gonna ruin? That war will most likely not be fought within the borders of either of the two. The United States are 'far and safe' away from the conflict, which will most likely start in Ukraine and spread out into Europe.
I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but when it happens it will go like that. Oh and let me just say, that I think both parties are not stupid enough to drag the world into a huge warzone - it's just big mouthing attempting to get more power and sound strong and serious. You can basically compare it with some of the 'tough guys' in SA:MP - they mostly only threat with their actions, but in order to not lose something, they will not do anything anyways.
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No, that USA has a more advanced army, and that it, together with its allies, has more advantages. USA has direct entrance to the main oceans, whereas Russia doesn't. That's why Russia focused on improving their ground warfare more, and even probably is stronger than USA in that area. With all the British and U.S. bases surrounding Russia, and NATO's firepower, I don't think you should be claiming such things.
NATO=USA. Also I'm pretty sure that Russia has much more planes and ships than you think.
How will USA pay all those soldiers and keep vehicles in good condition with THEIR money and not Jewish?
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A war on the European continent is not what Russia or the EU wants. British public opinion is not in favour of sending troops to fight (another) foreign war.
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NATO=USA. Also I'm pretty sure that Russia has much more planes and ships than you think.
Barely. Those few numbers more wouldn't hurt.
How will USA pay all those soldiers and keep vehicles in good condition with THEIR money and not Jewish?
Russia's military budget is about 15 percent of USA's.
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I'm pretty sure that Russia has much more planes and ships than you think.
As the saying goes it's not what you've got, it's what you do with it.
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US & UK Superior alliance! ;)
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US & UK Superior alliance! ;)
France, Germany, Australia and Italy would probably join us too.
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France, Germany, Australia and Italy would probably join us too.
What would Italy do? lol
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What would Italy do? lol
Provide the catering.
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Both US and Russia are under crisis, they can't do war.
Specially US they can NOT do war, their economy does NOT allows them to do.
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Specially US they can NOT do war, their economy does NOT allows them to do.
If a country is adamant on going to war, they will always find the money.
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If a country is adamant on going to war, they will always find the money.
Nope this time they can't and they won't trust me.
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Provide the catering.
Or they would just continue what they were doing during all these wars. Joining alliances for profit that they will never get.
So according to western media USA has $600 billion, rich allies, more army vehicles, more soldiers...what are they waiting for then?
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Or they would just continue what they were doing during all these wars. Joining alliances for profit that they will never get.
So according to western media USA has $600 billion, rich allies, more army vehicles, more soldiers...what are they waiting for then?
They can'NOT ATTACK they NEED RUSSIA for Natural GAS this is NOT a GAME guys WAKE UP!!
They can'not do WAR THEY NEED eatch other!
Its all about MONEY
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They can'NOT ATTACK they NEED RUSSIA for Natural GAS this is NOT a GAME guys WAKE UP!!
Yes, this too.
Its all about MONEY
No shit.
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So according to western media USA has $600 billion, rich allies, more army vehicles, more soldiers...what are they waiting for then?
Just because they have about everything to win a war means that they should start one?
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Just because they have about everything to win a war means that they should start one?
No dude they were always peaceful, I doubt that they even tought about the war, it's just those Russian uncivilized swines that want war, right?
Of course, would you let someone constantly be your threat and prevent you from doing things you want to do even if you know that you are stronger?
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If the UN summons the armies they will have no other choice then to respond. Eventhough the budget isn't as big as it used to, we'll have to respond. Speaking for my own country, it's going to be a problem, as we're currently on a mission in Mali, Afrika and he have quite a lot of units deployed there. They'll probably have to re-deploy if the UN summons.
Let's hope it doesn't reach that stage.
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Russian uncivilized
Don't be racist!
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Don't be racist!
You will need a bigger bait.
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If the UN summons the armies they will have no other choice then to respond. Eventhough the budget isn't as big as it used to, we'll have to respond. Speaking for my own country, it's going to be a problem, as we're currently on a mission in Mali, Afrika and he have quite a lot of units deployed there. They'll probably have to re-deploy if the UN summons.
Let's hope it doesn't reach that stage.
the netherlands is going to be the little neutral country it has been the past centuries, so no worries lol
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Of course, would you let someone constantly be your threat and prevent you from doing things you want to do even if you know that you are stronger?
So, why and what reason do you think that either Russia and USA should attack each other, and start a total war?
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the netherlands is going to be the little neutral country it has been the past centuries, so no worries lol
They won't have a choice if the UN thinks otherwise.
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So, why and what reason do you think that either Russia and USA should attack each other, and start a total war?
Because they are constantly threatening eachother.
They won't have a choice if the UN thinks otherwise.
Nah, they would probably just take all your food and stuff.
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Because they are constantly threatening eachother.
Yeah, very good reason to let thousands die.
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Yeah, very good reason to let thousands die.
Like those guys even give a fuck about people, just money.
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Like those guys even give a f**k about people, just money.
Why would starting an all out war make them rich? The U.S practically went bankrupt (Taking out huge loans) just fighting the war on terror. Imagine how expensive it'd be to fight Russia. Same goes for Russia too. Similarly, wars have always been the element that broke economies, not made them.
The most logical method to fight would instead be the cheapest, where you don't need to send in your own troops or much resources. Attacking each other's friends. Disrupting each others supplies, economies e.t.c. Starting a coup in a country controlled by the other side. Or maybe invading the country and installing a 'Freedom fighter' militia, that then take over. The country is yours without a single one of your men dead.
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Finally! Someone is using logic (Philp Ancelotti)
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war on terror
lols
The most logical method to fight would instead be the cheapest, where you don't need to send in your own troops or much resources. Attacking each other's friends. Disrupting each others supplies, economies e.t.c. Starting a coup in a country controlled by the other side. Or maybe invading the country and installing a 'Freedom fighter' militia, that then take over. The country is yours without a single one of your men dead.
So basically what the US has been doing for the past 10 to 20 years in the Middle East & North Africa?
The elections of Ukraine will be held may 22-ish(?). It will be interesting to see where it will go from there. I think the whole situation has been drawn out for too long now.
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I don't think the situation would have been as bad if Russia would have allowed for international authorities to conduct and oversee the referendum for annexation of the Crimea. I suspect that there may have be some threats involved from both sides of the disagreement but the decent into near civil war is worrying. I can understand Russia's motives in the protection of the Russia people from a government which were not directly elected but should have had some neutral authority involved from the beginning.
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Why would starting an all out war make them rich? The U.S practically went bankrupt (Taking out huge loans) just fighting the war on terror. Imagine how expensive it'd be to fight Russia. Same goes for Russia too. Similarly, wars have always been the element that broke economies, not made them.
Someone somewhere is profiting off from war.
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Why would starting an all out war make them rich? The U.S practically went bankrupt (Taking out huge loans) just fighting the war on terror. Imagine how expensive it'd be to fight Russia. Same goes for Russia too. Similarly, wars have always been the element that broke economies, not made them.
That wasn't even my point but okay.
Invest to get more.
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So basically what the US has been doing for the past 10 to 20 years in the Middle East & North Africa?
Not just 10 to 20, they've been doing it for a while now. How many Coups do you think the U.S sponsored to date? If anything, the Russians are just using the same tactics as the ones the US developed.
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If anything, the Russians are just using the same tactics as the ones the US developed.
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EDIT: whats wrong with these forum moderators nowadays lol
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EDIT: whats wrong with these forum moderators nowadays lol
You tell us, what's wrong?
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You tell us, what's wrong?
that wasn't the pic i used, it got modified :)
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Someone somewhere is profiting off from war.
The hardware manufactures and the politicians who do dinner speaking after taking their country to war (Tony Blair). However overwhelmingly war results in damage economically and physically.
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My country is NATO border with Russia. If a war happens, we're fucked.
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Guys do you think WW3 is going to break out!!??##
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My country is NATO border with Russia. If a war happens, we're f**ked.
If war breaks out your countrymen will die for the corporation interests. No worries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg
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NATO=USA
Not at all pal. Nato has several countries inside, but it is obviously lead by the USA. So no fighting against NATO is not as easy as it may seem to you.
And no I am not a world war expert I just say what I've been told.
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Because i know that some city wants to nuclear bomb and if they should USA is going to attack the attacker and a nuclear WAR is going to start
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With all of the respect, I do not believe that they are so stupid to start a war while they are in crisis.
I hope they are not going to make fast and stupid decisions to star a nuclear war that will lead to end of humanity.
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My country is NATO border with Russia. If a war happens, we're f**ked.
Same here,it was always border and always f**ked.
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Yes finally somebody with sense thanks Denis you are the only person to understand why i dont want another WW to break out
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With all of the respect, I do not believe that they are so stupid to start a war while they are in crisis.
I hope they are not going to make fast and stupid decisions to star a nuclear war that will lead to end of humanity.
Wars were started over stupid things, like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War) and this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes) :rolleyes:
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zyes and some war was started over a girl to kingdoms wanted a girl to marry their king and they fought over the girl and war started
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Wars were started over stupid things, like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War) and this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes) :rolleyes:
Totally agree with you but let's hope they learned from the past mistakes
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Wars were started over stupid things, like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War) and this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes) :rolleyes:
Not world wars.
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You guys want there to be no more wars? Well, then vouch for a World War III. No human race - no wars. Get it?
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That is what somebody else already posted try reading post or quote
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Let's just blow everything up and be done with it :lol:
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This is the 21st Century. Do you really think wars are just going to be fought using soldiers, "freedom fighters", propaganda, and the like?
Don't forget about the financial side and how the governments have quite a say in many of the biggest multinational corporations. In a world where money is achieving more control than ever before in history, a corporate war could be going on under our very noses, and we wouldn't be any the wiser.
That being said, if a successful "world war" world war does push through, there's a good possibility the next war would be fought with sticks and stones. As corrupt and stupid the politicians are, I doubt they'd want to risk their asses and blow away humanity's development and technology along with their private yachts, designer suits, and sports cars.
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If you talking about money please dont even get me started USA is The Worlds Richest War Super Power so money is not an issue here to start WW3
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That being said, if a successful "world war" world war does push through, there's a good possibility the next war would be fought with sticks and stones. sports cars.
Give some credit to Albert Einstein pls thx.
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Give some credit to Albert Einstein pls thx.
He was the one that though it was impossible to create nuclear weapons without having the multiply power to make a bomb out of it. The hero that found that it was possible to create a chain reaction was Leó Szilárd. Who took contact with Albert Einstein and told him, Leó later wrote a letter and gave it to Albert Einstein, Albert than posted it in the name of himself so the President of the United States(Franklin Roosevelt) would listen. He approved and they later on started the Manhattan Project.
How would the world have been if Nazi-Germany had got the technology before USA? I think we would already fight with sticks and stones if that was the case.. :rolleyes:
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How would the world have been if Nazi-Germany had got the technology before USA? I think we would already fight with sticks and stones if that was the case.. :rolleyes:
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How would the world have been if Nazi-Germany had got the technology before USA? I think we would already fight with sticks and stones if that was the case.. :rolleyes:
History is written by the victors of a war, and the victors of WWII did their best to make Nazi Germany appear as the scourge of the earth, despite the objective aspect of their war crimes.
Had the Axis won instead, probably you would be sitting in a classroom listening to a lecture about how the great Fuhrer Adolf Hitler so benevolently freed civilization from the greed of the Western nations, and purified the human race by setting it on the road to its highest potential.
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I can decrypt this:
It means that the old who bring war upon the youth are punished by those who with nice hats.
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I can decrypt this:
It means that the old who bring war upon the youth are punished by those who with nice hats.
No, it means that one bearded man can't lead a big army of police officers against cowboys because police officers don't have any guns.
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History is written by the victors of a war, and the victors of WWII did their best to make Nazi Germany appear as the scourge of the earth, despite the objective aspect of their war crimes.
Had the Axis won instead, probably you would be sitting in a classroom listening to a lecture about how the great Fuhrer Adolf Hitler so benevolently freed civilization from the greed of the Western nations, and purified the human race by setting it on the road to its highest potential.
Even if history is written by the victors, I don't think there's any doubt that Hitler was the scourge of the earth. His policies condemned many people to death for no reason other than who they were. I don't see how by 'cleansing' people who don't have blonde hair and blue eyes it would have set the world on the road to a higher potential. They are just the crazed thoughts of one man and his followers.
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Even if history is written by the victors, I don't think there's any doubt that Hitler was the scourge of the earth. His policies condemned many people to death for no reason other than who they were. I don't see how by 'cleansing' people who don't have blonde hair and blue eyes it would have set the world on the road to a higher potential. They are just the crazed thoughts of one man and his followers.
Exactly.
But the power of the victors can extend so far into shaping history, both past and present, that it can brainwash you into turning a blind eye to atrocities, or even into thinking that they were done for the greater good. For instance, the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed / affected millions of innocents, but as it was carried out by the Allies (the victors) the world was made to think that it was the absolute best move to end the war.
Take a look at the world's sheep today, who are content under the corrupt system that the victors have maintained so vigorously. There are other ways than fear to manipulate the thinking of the masses, such as pleasure and the media.
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My belief is that history is written by the victims. All wars is not written by the victory team of the war. Like the Vietnam war, USA won but who have written the history? I have only heard how the bad guys are the Capitalists that trying to destroy the Communist empire which the greed...
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History is written by the victors. Do you seriously think that Nazi Germany would waste tons of bullets and gas on captured people that were working for them even if those resources were more than needed?
Like the Vietnam war, USA won but who have written the history?
USA lost and the only people who believe that USA was good in that war are Americans, rest of the world knows the truth.
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Hmm, no
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He was the one that though it was impossible to create nuclear weapons without having the multiply power to make a bomb out of it. The hero that found that it was possible to create a chain reaction was Leó Szilárd. Who took contact with Albert Einstein and told him, Leó later wrote a letter and gave it to Albert Einstein, Albert than posted it in the name of himself so the President of the United States(Franklin Roosevelt) would listen. He approved and they later on started the Manhattan Project.
How would the world have been if Nazi-Germany had got the technology before USA? I think we would already fight with sticks and stones if that was the case.. :rolleyes:
It wasnt what I meant. It was the thing that the person I quoted was claiming a quote by Albert Einstein without giving the old man any credit ;(
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USA lost and the only people who believe that USA was good in that war are Americans, rest of the world knows the truth.
Actually Republic of Vietnam lost. Occupied by North Vietnam.
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My belief is that history is written by the victims. All wars is not written by the victory team of the war. Like the Vietnam war, USA won but who have written the history? I have only heard how the bad guys are the Capitalists that trying to destroy the Communist empire which the greed...
The USA never won the Vietnam War, nor the War on Terror. Two wars which until today are seen as failures and massive wastes of resources on their part, claiming more casualties than any real successes.
Sometimes, 'Murrica can't have it all.
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Ukraine is living in their own virtual world, blaming Russian for everything.
Russia does not need Europe, if the war was imminent then we could have started it with the first provocations thrown in our direction.
The UN council is useless, everyone is just reading the same document that seems to have been passed around...
Everything Russia did that the western media is using to stir up negative emotions, was done under international law and within regulations that were in place.
There are much more parties involved than you think and it's not all so black and white.
Yes there is propaganda from every direction and with various intensity but have different targets, and yes Russia is also using propaganda but that's just because it was the only way to answer and the country is already in a bad state we don't need more depression. The surge of nationals and trolls it's an unwanted and expected effect, but that was inevitable.
Ukraine's army is not organized, they don't have a plan, they are being sent in groups and eventually abandoned in strategic positions, some of their deaths were just where they wanted them to die.
The ACTUAL people in the country were being ignored, they tried to make their voice heard but with no results.. now they are fleeing the country, while Ukraine calls that kidnapping..
The funny thing here is that Ukraine made this Maidan, which was to get rid of the oligarchs in the Gov. at the end they elected one of the most powerful oligarchs, and hope to sign the EU agreement.........
There is not going to be a war if in the worst scenario there will be something it's definitely not going to be started by Russia because there is no sense in that, and if you really believe in the boogieman and that Russia is evil then you're mistaken because if it was really that way believe me you would all be dead by now.
All the ex-soviet countries in some degree have this artificial hate towards Russia which was created during the cold war, which is funny because some of those countries were pumped with money and infrastructure.. and nothing was touched after the fall... they for some reason want compensation... bwhaha ok
As for USA, they are not bad, and we don't want to destroy them, it is obvious that the administration of the country has lost the grip to reality... and the funny thing is that noone is arguing with Obama lol want to rule the world? do it' we don't give a shit just don't kill us all in the process and prove yourself to be efficient at what you want to do... by blaming Russia for everything and having speeches saying ''if US is not going to lead no one else will'' that's a pretty big statement, beside that I'm pretty sure that USA could have build a bigger capital without war and the ridiculous amount they spend on useless technology that gets surpassed by Chinese for like 10x less money.
Oh and it does not matter that you believe in your super power, against China that's not going to help...
So all that's happening is NATO and Russia are traditionally measuring their dicks at the borders (lol nato and the soldiers that were pissing all over Latvian monuments...) meanwhile the media is having a bit of information war, and don't be naive to believe the prettiest or the most viewed source, since there is alot of people just streaming over there and there is so much lobbying going on that's just ridiculous.
The glorification of who won the war is also part of the social structure and it's needed because you need a reason to be awesome, you can notice that in the behaviour of the people that don't have a glorified history :P that's kinda necessary and it was quite a smart move, but now you will have to live with the consequences and responsibilities that probably were not taken in to account and now there is noone to blame and there is a large chunk of population that actually believed in the black and white presentation.
Most of the people are just part of the system and there is no such thing as ''do something'' the least we can do is being informed of whats going on, because there is going to be a moment when can do something. Hating and blaming is not going to help that's for sure.
I might be wrong, but then again we would die so quick that you wouldn't even notice that something's up :D
Despite all the horrible things that this has caused watching the political and media part it's funny because it's just like Kindergarten, oh and at the end it's the Russians)) we probably killed the dinosaurs or something.