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Title: Rstirected freecop
Post by: DE_Pants on June 26, 2014, 12:19:12 pm
Most of the new players became  cops and they dont know the /rules. So with the weapons they get they
Dm,suspecting everyone for invaild law breaks(like for 1),Carkilling,killing after player /gued,killing colored bug players,not even warn to /gu.
So i think you need to restict the freecop to civilians who got passports.
Title: Re: Rstirected freecop
Post by: yoske on June 26, 2014, 12:23:48 pm
Ever tried on normal and calm way to explain them the rules and teach them few things about IV:MP?
Title: Re: Rstirected freecop
Post by: DE_Pants on June 26, 2014, 12:32:43 pm
Ever tried on normal and calm way to explain them the rules and teach them few things about IV:MP?
there is a lot of unusaul cases when he dont know how to chat he dont know english etc..
and im tired of every time to explain someone else im not a moderator or something to explain every one server rules its not my job .most of the times there in no moderators online so i cant do anything about that.
Title: Re: Rstirected freecop
Post by: Mark on June 26, 2014, 12:53:06 pm
there is a lot of unusaul cases when he dont know how to chat he dont know english etc..
and im tired of every time to explain someone else im not a moderator or something to explain every one server rules its not my job .most of the times there in no moderators online so i cant do anything about that.

If you are tired you can always get outside and enjoy sun. Why a new player without knowledge should be cut out from duty job? I personally enjoy with some newcomers , they learn fast and good.
Instead of moan , go on duty and try to help them, if you dont succeed you can always report it to an adminstrator that will try to solve with the guy.

I understand its frustant when you are the only playing and some newbie abuse you , but most of them didnt give a look to our rules , so you gotta help them. No way if you are tired , better go off or your mood will get destroyed.
Trust me , this is not a solution. A possible solution would be have a better GUI , sadly not really possible on IV:MP Client.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rstirected freecop
Post by: BojanS on June 26, 2014, 04:50:28 pm
Most of the new players became  cops and they dont know the /rules. So with the weapons they get they
Dm,suspecting everyone for invaild law breaks(like for 1),Carkilling,killing after player /gued,killing colored bug players,not even warn to /gu.
So i think you need to restict the freecop to civilians who got passports.
Makes sense.
Ever tried on normal and calm way to explain them the rules and teach them few things about IV:MP?
Most of people won't really listen. :(
Title: Re: Rstirected freecop
Post by: Haythem on June 26, 2014, 06:58:24 pm
- New players learns from regulars. Maybe they don't know how to play on the server ? those ARPD officers DM's you and abuses you  because they actually get mis-treated.
I actually saw regular players treating those ARPD officers like they are nothing, it's quite humiliating. Therefore they jeopardize themselves.
If they get treated in a good manner , i ensure to you that they will not abuse you.

- If we prohibit players from being police officers and allow only citiziens with passports to go on duty, then we are talking about discrimination here.
Everyone should be treated like the rest, if they commit a mistake they will be warned/punished.
  :cop:
Title: Re: Rstirected freecop
Post by: superh2o on June 26, 2014, 07:21:12 pm
Police job as a job must not be denied to all players. Only thing you can do is well maybe make the parks of Police work lower, and make players work for better things. Buts that would be another topic.

I agree that some free cops are annoying even after becoming regulars, but many of my and Lucchese associates/friends are free cops, and RP with them is never boring or dull.

And the golden rule SU is not needed for good RP, that's what most free cops fail to miss, RP with me that i killed a whale in the middle of Middle park lake, but don't SU me for RP kill, and then say wow why he shoot at you....and then the usual why he didn't read /crime ID, well i found out today that 60% free cops regulars don't know a valid SU from invalid and why? Its simple only SU they use is /su Evading................................ ...

Only thing i can say about new free cops is they must be lead by EXAMPLE. They should get few ARPD training see what teamwork can do.

And last thing is well, lower the firepower free cops have 80 berreta its too much 20-35 would do fine, 80 is over kill.
In case he wants to DM even with desynced Y and Z axis 80 Beretta rounds will kill any player.
Title: Re: Rstirected freecop
Post by: Pokedude on June 26, 2014, 07:55:20 pm
we all can do one thing is that teach them everything about the server in a calm and a friendly way.....
if they don't listen try and try harder
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try and try till you succeed
his can be done in many ways and anytime you want.... its the best way :)
Title: Re: Rstirected freecop
Post by: Danny Soulson on June 27, 2014, 01:22:16 am
it would be good when new players on duty  their account needs to be old 2 days or more to use /su
Title: Re: Rstirected freecop
Post by: JDC on June 28, 2014, 08:37:29 am
I'm not from IV:MP, but discrimination on freecops was also a huge problem in SA:MP until all cops (excluding FBI) were placed under the command of ARPD/SAPD.

Placing more and more restrictions on new players is going to solve nothing. In fact, it would only demotivate them.

Instead of being too lazy to help inexperienced players, the best thing to do is grow some patience and try to teach them. Even if they do not learn on the first try, some will wise up after seeing that regular players are willing to treat them like fellow humans, rather than "noobs".

In fact, we have good admins in this community who were once stubborn, rule-breaking newbies as well. Who knows, a rowdy new player who you help to behave may become a huge blessing for this community.
Title: Re: Rstirected freecop
Post by: Huntsman on June 28, 2014, 09:14:37 am
The way to make sure these cops are joining the duty not to get guns so they can DM is to add a /equip command upon duty. Basically, when /duty, the officer would spawn without guns. /equip'ing would allow him to get his guns, however, if he's not here for RP, he probably won't read the commands anyways. This was implemented in VC:MP once and it damn worked.
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