Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Leon. on July 14, 2014, 09:40:54 pm
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I have found little enjoyment from Argonath these days. Nobody does anything but chatroom about, and it takes a sustained effort to find/create RP. It's as if the essence of RP has been sucked dry.
So I am reaching out to those who still actively roleplay, so that I may share the joy of roleplay with you folks. Post below if interested.
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I can agree with the whole post of you. Most of the members keep themselves away from the RP because it takes much time or they do not know how to do it. That would be an awesome idea to make a team of good RP'ers through this topic, as we can see who is availible with the old RP skills.
I do not know I'm a good player or not, but I can learn if we do it together. Let's start the fun again and bring the RP back. I'm an active player and always be availible for any RP situations. That can be a good topic, Leon.
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It really excited me when I read this, it prove's there's some home. But unfortunately, I do not play SA:MP any longer.
Let me know if you ever want to meet in Liberty City, instead.
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To bad you have to make a topic like this... But I understand...
Here is what I've seen all those years of service:
- never force an RP, it is stupid to follow aorders from someone what for you isn't funny.
- RP starts with yourselve. "No RP this days" typing in main chat, is very very unusefull... This means you are not doing RP either...
- groups are important, mainly the older ones... Hang around with them. Good example is the Corleones, they are active and do some RP...
- RP is profitable... No money? RP... Forget the scripted jobs, get a special car and do something (secret papers, gun reload at PD, drug courir, streetracing, ...)
- cops can be used in: desk work, trafic countrol, ...
- mechanics can be used in: gasstation employee, trucker, ...
- medics can be serve as personal kinist, ...
And so on...
I hope this will inspire people...
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I'm glad to see that the first few replies are not in the nature of "Stop moaning." Cheers folks. I'll look for you ;)
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It has indeed been far to long since a good ol' RP. Depressing really. As much as it won't please some... I can't deny that the last week I've become active it has really hurt me to see the lack of quality RP in the server.
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I feel you Leon, roleplay here isn't even a priority for some people anymore. Coming to a supposed roleplay server you expect to find people roeplaying not needing to ASK for it. I'm always down for something no matter what it is.
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Always up for something when i am not busy with administrative tasks!
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There are several people who do RP, only thing you have to do is meet them. Start a RP yourself and I'm sure there will be followers. It's really sad for me and for everyone, having to search for someone to RP with when there are like 30 players online, but that's it.
- RP with the ones you know that do RP
- Help the ones who aren't really good RPers but they still show interest in learning.
That's the solution in my opinion, and that's my moto as well on Argonath.
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Yeah, it's time we do some server-wide RP with many different groups and people involved. There's more than enough stuff to do. Also, is the Svensson Flint state still going? Maybe something around that.
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I feel you Leon, roleplay here isn't even a priority for some people anymore. Coming to a supposed roleplay server you expect to find people roeplaying not needing to ASK for it. I'm always down for something no matter what it is.
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Play for fun and friendship, not for stats or achievements.
Second part of the above is what a fairly large majority do, glad Grzesiek still had that in his profile signature.
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Well its up to us to change it... what you say is completly right, and I personally thing that it is up to the players and especially the big groups to be excact (containing SAPD which should be stricter) to do the start. I'm 100% in for it.
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No doubt some boost of RP is needed. I've been roleplaying a trucker from time to time, rest of my time is spent just being an ordinary citizen. I'm always looking for some roleplay when I'm on.
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Always up for something when i am not busy with administrative tasks!
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I'm up for roleplay if I actually stumble upon one, most of the people who roleplay keep it private or something.
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This is indeed a growing issue in the server. The culture inside turned greedy, people are playing to raise their stats and not considering to roleplay or participate in RP activities. It's disappointing really to see this happen, but if everyone starts encouraging people to focus on roleplay I don't see why it can't return.
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most of the people who roleplay keep it private or something.
Correct. They don't have to announce that they've done a good RP yet etc.
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I'm afraid that no matter what we do, people that put money over RP will remain as they are...
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We're already lots of people here who observe the situation and we all do have something in mind to fix it. If each one of us does something in order to get things better in here, a huge total effort will be made and people will be influenced and start RPing. Just get people and RP, it's not hard. :)
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RP is going down since new players trying to earn money and do not care about RP as they don't know this a RP server. Money must be forbidden in-game because this is real money. We can not withdraw this money from our CPU then why the players are getting die for it? This is the main thing becuase our RP is not like as before.
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RP is going down since new players trying to earn money and do not care about RP as they don't know this a RP server. Money must be forbidden in-game because this is real money. We can not withdraw this money from our CPU then why the players are getting die for it? This is the main thing becuase our RP is not like as before.
Don't expect newbies to RP when the main problem here is that Regulars+ don't RP. New players usually go with the flow of the server, when most of the players are seeking for money/assets/stats and don't focus on RP, nothing will make newbies RP.
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I'm up for roleplay if I actually stumble upon one, most of the people who roleplay keep it private or something.
They don't want some random coming along with their "hey guize wht u doing :D" / "do u want repair??". Those who do it with select people are open to those who try and interact with them through roleplay means.
I'm afraid that no matter what we do, people that put money over RP will remain as they are...
That's the mentality of players now playing for stats and achievements. It's up to each individual (ok not all) to stop thinking of this as a game of "who has most assets" and treat it as a damn roleplay server.
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It's up to each individual (ok not all) to stop thinking of this as a game of "who has most assets" and treat it as a damn roleplay server.
Well said.
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That's the mentality of players now playing for stats and achievements. It's up to each individual (ok not all) to stop thinking of this as a game of "who has most assets" and treat it as a damn roleplay server.
Yeap this is the truth... but it is obviously not easy :(
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Argonath is actually confusing in the RP part.
It's called a "RP Server", but you're allowed not to RP.
Since people not Roleplaying is a problem, why allow them not to? I seriously don't get it.
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Argonath is actually confusing in the RP part.
It's called a "RP Server", but you're allowed not to RP.
Since people not Roleplaying is a problem, why allow them not to? I seriously don't get it.
Thats because ,its an Light RP server , there's no such a rules that you must follow RP any time and generally it makes huge problems between players and when someone refuses RP people starts blaming on public chat .
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The problem of the lack of roleplay is based in the fact that those individuals who were 'transmitting' roleplay with a lot of people lost their will to do it anymore.
In example; If Abe Corleone makes few huge roleplays in a row with his boys, Me and Antonio with Gvardia, Frank Hawk and Jimmy Cuneo with Ballas, Acika with Lucianos,Danny/Nitr0x with Stracci, Que Solis with the rest of cabrons etc, then not only the roleplay is massivly raising around the server on a general note with civilians, business, criminal, corporative, random chilling and all other type of roleplays, yet motivates people to create their own small roleplays with random people from time to time.
When you got most of those 'transmitting' people gone or lost their will, without new one showing up, you get the situation in which we're today.
And unfortunately not much will change in future until the policy toward the development of the server is adjust to the reality of players needs and desires for fun, not some 'plans' and 'rules' that are suffocating it, made/build in a different time on a completely different server, when you compare Argonath 2010 and Argonath 2014.
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We cannot expect to fix the mentality of new players unless we can get the regulars in shape first, as we are the examples new players base themselves on. If regulars are lazy, money-hungry assholes, then expect new players to be the same, no matter what the admins do.
The thing about roleplay, is that it starts with you. This is not something that we can just change by a single topic or administrative order.
Go around and randomly roleplay with someone. Interact. Take on a unique or novel role, like a crazed apocalyptic street preacher, a stranded time traveler, a "suspicious immigrant" who escaped from a warring nation, a man whore, an alien, or something that would catch attention and make people remember you. Take the time to be friendly to new players.
Yes, this is a problem. May I point out as well that I have seen a lot of members from groups such as Luciano, Vendito, Alemdar, and others who upon login run to the nearest fire station, go on duty, and ask "/r LAST MISSION???" rather than taking the time to roleplay at all, or even just say "/r hi guys, how is everyone?". Not to mention the countless regulars who just go on mechanic duty, randomly drive up to someone, and just ask for repair with little to no roleplay.
This is not so much to shame you, but to point out that you (not just those named above, but a lot of other regulars as well) are part of the problem. In the case of this problem, you can also be part of the solution.
Don't think about what everyone else is doing, but what YOU can contribute. If everyone applied this, we will easily have a much better server.
Also,
Always up for something when i am not busy with administrative tasks!
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We got a no when we warned about this development in an earlier stage. I see it's continuing down the same path. Much words about how it will be better but I can't see how that helps an already wounded community.
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We got a no when we warned about this development in an earlier stage. I see it's continuing down the same path. Much words about how it will be better but I can't see how that helps an already wounded community.
Nope. Not with this attitude it won't. Wounds heal... but not without treatment.
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And the treatment wont happen, if the doctor wont give you the right medicine for it!
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And the treatment wont happen, if the doctor wont give you the right medicine for it!
Guess the doctor needs some help then? ;)
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Wounds scar.
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Well... All I can say is.. Less talk and more walk ;)
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Guess the doctor needs some help then? ;)
The doctor is free to ask for the public's opinion I guess then...
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The doctor is free to ask for the public's opinion I guess then...
SA:MP Ideas, RS5:Ideas.. not enough? Who should I have him make your personal invitation out to? A lot of the base ideas of RS5 have come from suggestions from the community that were posted and discussed on RS5 ideas and SA:MP ideas; even tho on many we may have dismissed them (like SAPD entry exam). Now I'll even admit personally there is a handful of things that I disagreed with; I didn't go ask for an invite to give my suggestion... I gave it.. and look one of them one was done and my initial idea was modified by community input.
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I was talking about a discussion topic, if one is not made by the time i get home from work, i will...
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The developers take and have always taken input from the public, and fact is a lot of RS5 is based on input from players. Going through this board (and its sub boards) alone would already reveal several topics where the community is asked for their input, with the best input to be implemented in the server.
If you're going to make a topic about how the developers should listen to the public more (or even further, allow the public to decide what the gamemode should be), you'll just be wasting your time.
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I was talking about a discussion topic, if one is not made by the time i get home from work, i will...
There has been a bunch of them.
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I was talking about an official discussion topic about the changes that need to be done for the RP to get back alive... not about the developers thing...
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I was talking about an official discussion topic about the changes that need to be done for the RP to get back alive... not about the developers thing...
How is that no official?
Topic created by developers asking how to improve the experience?
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ANyway just fuck it ... you don't get it and I'm really not in teh mood to explain .
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Don't like it? Leave.
Argonath has enough opportunities for everyone, not the community's fault you cannot find Roleplay. Create it, it's not hard.
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you cannot find Roleplay. Create it, it's not hard.
+1
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Check this quote from me on another topic, it was supported by several people and I think it's the best solution.
Argonath's RP will stop "dying" when we all stop complain about it. Nothing is done by everyone; Have a look around you. Is everyone behaving properly? No.
Instead of writing topics use your imagination and start roleplays, the ones who really RP will follow, the others will soon or late change or leave the server. I'm one of the people who used to complain about people who don't RP, but the solution is ignorance. You ignore the ones that are here only to troll, and RP with people you like. You'll at least have less things to complain about, as your environment will be full of things you like doing when you're playing.
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If there is no complains, I'll think the community is dead, because as long as I have been playing here, there has always been some kind of moaning / complaining :rolleyes:
Though I think the devs does a good job, but maybe a bit slow. Though we cannot blame them for being busy! :)
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Guys maybe if we'd create a little bit bigger overall roleplay scenario for some general guidance it would help move things along. Maybe have a topic as well, where we all post what has been done since the start of the scenario.
For example: the Flint County Liberation Front declared, Flint County Independent from the State of San Andreas. As las Venturas casinos restaurants are heavily dependant on Flint County potato crops the Las Venturas city declared that it will keep it's border open with flint county as long as the potatos keep coming. In exchange Las Venturas would keep the Farmers and Truckers who deliver the goods safe inside the city....
Now all the players would pick some role in this scenario. Are you a farmer under the Svensson, or the delivery man how would you help the cause of flint countys independance? Maybe you're a Police Officer in LS always patrolling on the border to see that no potatos would reach Las Venturas. maybe you would like to be a LVs mayor- How would you keep the truckers and farmers safe inside LV? Would you make a deal with the Mafia in SF for protection?
During the day we roleplay and when we are done we would update the topic and see where the collective story telling has gotten us. I don't know, it's just an idea.
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A little bit late but count me in!
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Guys maybe if we'd create a little bit bigger overall roleplay scenario for some general guidance it would help move things along. Maybe have a topic as well, where we all post what has been done since the start of the scenario.
For example: the Flint County Liberation Front declared, Flint County Independent from the State of San Andreas. As las Venturas casinos restaurants are heavily dependant on Flint County potato crops the Las Venturas city declared that it will keep it's border open with flint county as long as the potatos keep coming. In exchange Las Venturas would keep the Farmers and Truckers who deliver the goods safe inside the city....
Now all the players would pick some role in this scenario. Are you a farmer under the Svensson, or the delivery man how would you help the cause of flint countys independance? Maybe you're a Police Officer in LS always patrolling on the border to see that no potatos would reach Las Venturas. maybe you would like to be a LVs mayor- How would you keep the truckers and farmers safe inside LV? Would you make a deal with the Mafia in SF for protection?
During the day we roleplay and when we are done we would update the topic and see where the collective story telling has gotten us. I don't know, it's just an idea.
Do you really think that people who RP will come to that topic and post what he did?
It's a damn roleplay server, everyone sould be here to RP. No need for topics.
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I've been daily logging into the game, in intention to RP. I totally agree with you, Leon. Some people just don't RP if a players offer him to. Argonath "RPG" it's a RP server, but you're not forced to RP. Good logic.
Count me in.
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Do you really think that people who RP will come to that topic and post what he did?
It's a damn roleplay server, everyone sould be here to RP. No need for topics.
I think you really don't get the point of the community here or what it stands for. Mostly this is a community whose members enjoy role playing, not that we do it at all time when we are in-game.
Also no one is forcing you to participate in it. If you like to go and just randomly rob and kidnap people after which you take a whole other role and just watch out for speeders on the streets of San Andreas go ahead, have fun.
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Guys maybe if we'd create a little bit bigger overall roleplay scenario for some general guidance it would help move things along. Maybe have a topic as well, where we all post what has been done since the start of the scenario.
For example: the Flint County Liberation Front declared, Flint County Independent from the State of San Andreas. As las Venturas casinos restaurants are heavily dependant on Flint County potato crops the Las Venturas city declared that it will keep it's border open with flint county as long as the potatos keep coming. In exchange Las Venturas would keep the Farmers and Truckers who deliver the goods safe inside the city....
Now all the players would pick some role in this scenario. Are you a farmer under the Svensson, or the delivery man how would you help the cause of flint countys independance? Maybe you're a Police Officer in LS always patrolling on the border to see that no potatos would reach Las Venturas. maybe you would like to be a LVs mayor- How would you keep the truckers and farmers safe inside LV? Would you make a deal with the Mafia in SF for protection?
During the day we roleplay and when we are done we would update the topic and see where the collective story telling has gotten us. I don't know, it's just an idea.
I agree that would update people on the RP scenario, since not everyone can be there when you're roleplaying
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I think you really don't get the point of the community here or what it stands for. Mostly this is a community whose members enjoy role playing, not that we do it at all time when we are in-game.
Also no one is forcing you to participate in it. If you like to go and just randomly rob and kidnap people after which you take a whole other role and just watch out for speeders on the streets of San Andreas go ahead, have fun.
You didn't really explain "the point of the community", which you claimed I don't get, by just saying something I already know and has nothing to do with what I stated. If you think that's all I'm doing, then have fun in your own world, where you do know me.
I only said that there's no need to post what you RPed, there's no point, really.
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You didn't really explain "the point of the community", which you claimed I don't get, by just saying something I already know and has nothing to do with what I stated. If you think that's all I'm doing, then have fun in your own world, where you do know me.
I only said that there's no need to post what you RPed, there's no point, really.
As far as the idea goes then the idea to post what you RPd according to that scenario is to let everyone know where the story progresses for example if someone is away for a week but still wants to participate from that moment on, how does he know what deals have been made, new alliances and enemies, new people etc. Anything that people role play that wouldn't be part of that story yeah don't need to be told.
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As far as the idea goes then the idea to post what you RPd according to that scenario is to let everyone know where the story progresses for example if someone is away for a week but still wants to participate from that moment on, how does he know what deals have been made, new alliances and enemies, new people etc. Anything that people role play that wouldn't be part of that story yeah don't need to be told.
Actually yeah, after thinking again, It would be a nice idea since It's optional for someone to do it.
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Don't like it? Leave.
Argonath has enough opportunities for everyone, not the community's fault you cannot find Roleplay. Create it, it's not hard.
I'm 80% sure this post is satirical
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I'm 80% sure this post is satirical
It's true though.
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Meet the Long Beach Mob.
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For me, roleplay is something that is creative, spontaneous, and self-produced.
Roleplay is creative because you (obviously) create a role. You could be a bored university student in real life, but a rich Mafia Don or Police Chief in the game. You use your imagination to make your character come to life, and you are the author of his/her life story. When stepping into the shoes of your character, you become an actor.
It is spontaneous, as the best details are usually thought up on the spot, or as the roleplay goes along. Not to mention that one minute, you can be an ice cream vendor, and the next, a powerful politician. You can change characters to suit how you need to play, anytime. Not to mention that making topics for, or going up to people and asking them to roleplay, hardly compare in overall quality to when you just go up to someone and the roleplay happens.
Most importantly, it is self-produced; roleplay starts with YOU. Do not expect others to roleplay or wait for them to start, but do it yourself. Only when most of us adapt this mindset will the overall roleplay on the server start to get much better.
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Do not expect others to roleplay or wait for them to start, but do it yourself.
Honestly, this has been said tons of times and still nobody starts using it.
For example suspects, you'd roleplay tazing them and they'd just continue running away and make stupid reason up to not be really tazed like "i wear new modern rubber shirt and tazer no worke!!".
It's mostly the people who join the server to not really play it how it's meant to be but to have personal fun and make fun of others.
There's also alot of lone wolves who just grow weed 24/7, play on fireman duty, buy infernus and then they drive it around in pointless circles to show off like "look! i buyed new infernus!! i richman!!".
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Honestly, this has been said tons of times and still nobody starts using it.
For example suspects, you'd roleplay tazing them and they'd just continue running away and make stupid reason up to not be really tazed like "i wear new modern rubber shirt and tazer no worke!!".
Suspects are afraid to roleplay with cops and cops are afraid to roleplay with suspects.
Sometimes suspects end up getting shot dead when they attempt to turn the situation into roleplay. Sometimes cops as well.
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Suspects are afraid to roleplay with cops and cops are afraid to roleplay with suspects.
Sometimes suspects end up getting shot dead when they attempt to turn the situation into roleplay. Sometimes cops as well.
Very very very true. It will take effort from both sides to get rid of this mindset. When police arrive to a suspect, or group of suspects, RP should always be the instinctive response.. not violence.
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We got a no when we warned about this development in an earlier stage. I see it's continuing down the same path. Much words about how it will be better but I can't see how that helps an already wounded community.
How's it going?
Might be time to re-install GTA. :)
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Might be time to re-install GTA. :)
Shiet man, give me a holla if you do, I might do the same. :lol:
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I am not even going to read all the replies, i am not bothered with it.
If you want some roleplay, New, old, Hybrid, GSF is mostly active to create good scenarios! :)
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Shiet man, give me a holla if you do, I might do the same. :lol:
Will do!
If you want some roleplay, New, old, Hybrid, GSF is mostly active to create good scenarios! :)
So GSF is still doing their thing? Nice to see you around, Traser!
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Will do!
So GSF is still doing their thing? Nice to see you around, Traser!
Yes, for a long time now, Still doing our thing! :)
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Very very very true. It will take effort from both sides to get rid of this mindset. When police arrive to a suspect, or group of suspects, RP should always be the instinctive response.. not violence.
There should be a better gun control, so police won't have to be afraid that they will get shot and start shooting immediately, and suspects won't be affraid that police will shoot because..It's a circle!
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I am not even going to read all the replies, i am not bothered with it.
]If you want some roleplay, New, old, Hybrid, GSF is mostly active to create good scenarios! :)[/color
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Vouching for GSF.
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There should be a better gun control, so police won't have to be afraid that they will get shot and start shooting immediately, and suspects won't be affraid that police will shoot because..It's a circle!