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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Huntsman on July 24, 2014, 01:00:36 pm

Title: Let's get this over with
Post by: Huntsman on July 24, 2014, 01:00:36 pm
Okay, first of all, I am a strong supporter of RS5 and anti-RS4 kind of person, but the obvious thing is that most players seem to be dissatisfied with most RS5 features, which has resulted in current dying state of the RS5 server. It's enough to blabber around complaining and instead, let's try to come up with a solution of how RS5 could be fixed. So this is what I have been able to comprehend so far:

1. Remove the jurisdriction system - it's far too complicated and restrictive. Let the SAPD enforce their jurisdrictions. It's very annoying when you are in Los Santos jurisdriction, but somebody decides to shoot on you in SF, and you can't suspect him, therefore you're helpless.
2. Re-add the missing features of RS4 ASAP, such as trains. So many uneccessary things were added, while the most simple and basic, but important ones were overlooked.
3. Disable the city chat or make the public chat default - in my opinion the city chat is pretty useless.

Please add your own input of what should be changed. But it should be not because you want it, but because you noticed that there is a public demand of a certain change.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: TiMoN on July 24, 2014, 01:05:08 pm
/dice
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Huntsman on July 24, 2014, 01:09:40 pm
And the reason for making a whole new topic apart from the others that we already have is...?
Because it's full of nothing but useless blaber and arguing instead of actually providing something constructive and helpful.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Lustigkurre on July 24, 2014, 01:10:08 pm
There has been many topics with this "ok lets fix things"-spirit. It's up to the scripters now. They know what the community wants and needs, cause this has been discussed in, what feels like, 100 topics. I just feel like "do we really need to take this yet another round?"
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Stivi on July 24, 2014, 01:10:42 pm
Okay, first of all, I am a strong supporter of RS5 and anti-RS4 kind of person, but the obvious thing is that most players seem to be dissatisfied with most RS5 features, which has resulted in current dying state of the RS5 server. It's enough to blabber around complaining and instead, let's try to come up with a solution of how RS5 could be fixed. So this is what I have been able to comprehend so far:

1. Remove the jurisdriction system - it's far too complicated and restrictive. Let the SAPD enforce their jurisdrictions. It's very annoying when you are in Los Santos jurisdriction, but somebody decides to shoot on you in SF, and you can't suspect him, therefore you're helpless.
:rofl: :rofl:



Because it's full of nothing but useless blaber and arguing instead of actually providing something constructive and helpful.
Which topic did you read ?
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Huntsman on July 24, 2014, 01:16:41 pm
:rofl: :rofl:


Which topic did you read ?

Look, if you're here to once again turn this topic into a shitstorm instead of suggesting or providing anything constructive, then please leave.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Lustigkurre on July 24, 2014, 01:18:20 pm
Because it's full of nothing but useless blaber and arguing instead of actually providing something constructive and helpful.

No there has been good topics about it and it's all been discussed. This topics has nothing new to come with.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: .Matthew. on July 24, 2014, 01:36:19 pm
RS4 was loved because of it's simple, understandable yet fun systems.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: RizzE. on July 24, 2014, 01:39:02 pm
RS4 was loved because of it's simple, understandable yet fun systems.

This is what many players are thinking. Maybe if stuff was added into RS4 it would be enough.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Alfreddo. on July 24, 2014, 01:42:08 pm
RS4 was loved because of it's simple, understandable yet fun systems.
Day to day you can't stay on "1+1=2".It sounds simple and understandable..but day to day you're growing..you evolve and you need more knowledge.That's what is rs5.An evolution.



Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: TiMoN on July 24, 2014, 01:45:24 pm
can we get /dice now
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: RizzE. on July 24, 2014, 01:47:50 pm
Day to day you can't stay on "1+1=2".It sounds simple and understandable..but day to day you're growing..you evolve and you need more knowledge.That's what is rs5.An evolution.

It would have been if it was released finished. I still play on Argonath so im not really complaining but yeah seeing the playerbase drop as it did sucked.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: eymas on July 24, 2014, 01:52:23 pm
Topics like these... (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=104051.0)
were made several times, (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=103344.0)
and yet; we see more. (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?board=126.0)
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Jubin on July 24, 2014, 03:00:02 pm
Player base dropped mostly because a lot of players thought that thet were robbed when their money was reset. since the start of RS5 the actual player base has slowly, but surely risen.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Zaila on July 24, 2014, 03:32:48 pm
You might have loved RS4, but i surely hated it. Why? Not for the features, but because it was a pain in the ass to work with. Code wise, RS4 had been worked on by so many people which eventually did lead it to become such a mess that a 10 minute fix would take 60 minutes since we needed t ofigure out what the code actually did before we could touch it.

If we would have stuck with RS4, you would most likely never see anything new added to the server due to the state RS4 was in code wise. And for those complaining with the reason "but why didn't you add all the new changes directly into RS4?" should know that to add all these changes into RS4, it would require even more job than it took to rewrite everything from scratch.

2. Re-add the missing features of RS4 ASAP, such as trains. So many uneccessary things were added, while the most simple and basic, but important ones were overlooked.
Please explain to me in detail how adding trains to the server which no one almost never used for the real purpose is so much more important than bug fixing?

We will most likely re-add vehicles such as trains, but it's a job for the future as we got more important matters to deal with first.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: TiMoN on July 24, 2014, 03:45:46 pm
Please explain to me in detail how adding trains to the server which no one almost never used for the real purpose is so much more important than bug fixing?

We will most likely re-add vehicles such as trains, but it's a job for the future as we got more important matters to deal with first.
man I dont see any bug fixing, we been stuck with this trucker job since rs5s launch, same goes for weapons disappearing and all that crap
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: beLTa on July 24, 2014, 03:51:54 pm
man I dont see any bug fixing, we been stuck with this trucker job since rs5s launch, same goes for weapons disappearing and all that crap
Give them sometime to fix them. They're not stuck with us only, they've some IRL problems too. So patience is key! They bug will be fixed whenever the scripters get time for it.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: .Ganton. on July 24, 2014, 03:55:05 pm
Patience and everything will be good at the end, trust me.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Alfreddo. on July 24, 2014, 04:18:43 pm
Patience and everything will be good at the end, trust me.
The problem is..it is taking months and players ain't patience.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Slavik on July 24, 2014, 04:24:58 pm
The problem is..it is taking months and players ain't patience.
Scripters are busy with real life too, so give them time, eventually everything will be fixed and working properly.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Zaila on July 24, 2014, 07:03:00 pm
man I dont see any bug fixing, we been stuck with this trucker job since rs5s launch, same goes for weapons disappearing and all that crap

Trucking is currently being worked on. In order to find out why weapons are not loading properly, i need exact date and time (down to minutes, even seconds if possible) of when it happend so i can check the necessery logs to see why it's not loading.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Teddy on July 24, 2014, 07:30:03 pm
man I dont see any bug fixing, we been stuck with this trucker job since rs5s launch, same goes for weapons disappearing and all that crap

I have trucking fixed; just server wise the test server is kinda broken. Be patient.. soon enough. We do have lives too you know.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Huntsman on July 24, 2014, 07:59:13 pm
Trucking is currently being worked on. In order to find out why weapons are not loading properly, i need exact date and time (down to minutes, even seconds if possible) of when it happend so i can check the necessery logs to see why it's not loading.

Please re-add trains, my group needs them :SSS
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Manoni on July 24, 2014, 09:07:59 pm
Please re-add trains, my group needs them :SSS

So now you speak for yourself instead of the community in general, ok. You must keep waiting like all the others who wants stuff for their own groups too.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Huntsman on July 24, 2014, 09:45:19 pm
So now you speak for yourself instead of the community in general, ok. You must keep waiting like all the others who wants stuff for their own groups too.

Ofcourse I'm speaking for myself, I've no right to speak for the whole community. Think about what you're saying.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Dean. on July 24, 2014, 10:05:11 pm
Most people remember that RS4 had even more bugs. Constant duty bugs, killbugs, HP bugs, people are looking at the negative points of RS5 and the positive of 4. Try looking at it from a different perspective. The only thing that is currently missing for me is

- UC duty still not fixed (unable to drive cars after relog, unable to /m and /mir)
- /siren (!!!!!!?!?!?!)
- Objects (/equip, hats, tactvest, etc)
- People don't use taxi's because they're able to drive state cars which are everywhere. Perhaps either removing state vehicles, or making it forced to have driving licenses would help.. lawwise that is.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Antonio. on July 24, 2014, 10:33:14 pm
Player base dropped mostly because a lot of players thought that thet were robbed when their money was reset. since the start of RS5 the actual player base has slowly, but surely risen.
Whether people like it or not, this is one of the main factors. A "heritage list" was created for groups to be able to keep their most valuable properties or at least to have more time to be able to buy them, but this list was just dumped on.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Slavik on July 24, 2014, 10:33:31 pm

- People don't use taxi's because they're able to drive state cars which are everywhere. Perhaps either removing state vehicles, or making it forced to have driving licenses would help.. lawwise that is.

Agree with that, the amount of state vehicle should be reduced, by like 50% or 75% to promote usage of taxi's
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: AK47 on July 24, 2014, 10:44:40 pm
Agree with that, the amount of state vehicle should be reduced, by like 50% or 75% to promote usage of taxi's
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Miller786 on July 24, 2014, 11:21:16 pm
Im not updated about the current prices but the last time i sat on a taxi my wallet lost A LOT of his weight and since people never know exactly how much they are gonna spend for the journey and fear to be scammed it's understandable that they'd rather die in a hole than getting inside a taxi.
And with bugged vehicle licenses reducing the number of state vehicles doesnt sound like a nice idea in my opinion.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: EliteTerm on July 25, 2014, 06:03:35 am
The problem is..it is taking months and players ain't patience.

Players sure had patience when RS4 was released on SA:MP 0.2x

That was fun.  :rage:
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Teddy on July 25, 2014, 06:42:27 am
The problem is..it is taking months and players ain't patience.

Sure. Let me just quit everything IRL. Let me drop out of college, and tell all my real life friends to go piss off. I'll move in to my mom's basement and spend 20 hours a day working on RS5... would that make you happy? Is our real life a big freaking problem for you?

We're doing the best we can, trust me.



Also any posts which have nothing positive and/or are just straight out useless shit have been removed; continued posts will be subsequently removed as well.  Why don't you try lowing your tone and provide something productive which can actually lead to resolve.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Huntsman on July 25, 2014, 09:11:15 am
Im not updated about the current prices but the last time i sat on a taxi my wallet lost A LOT of his weight and since people never know exactly how much they are gonna spend for the journey and fear to be scammed it's understandable that they'd rather die in a hole than getting inside a taxi.
And with bugged vehicle licenses reducing the number of state vehicles doesnt sound like a nice idea in my opinion.

If you are not rich enough, you could take a bus or a train, and that would open opportunities for a new kind of roleplay - public transport.
I'm for removal of state vehicles.
Title: Re: Let's get this over with
Post by: Nexxt on July 25, 2014, 09:45:46 am
Which equals for the removal of players on the server. State cars are just needed in order to keep the community satisfied, please do not want to search for cars or wait for taxies and stuff.
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