Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP General => Topic started by: Klaus on August 08, 2014, 04:18:11 am

Title: Back where we started
Post by: Klaus on August 08, 2014, 04:18:11 am
..with no server.

Now in most cases when there is an issue with the hosting of a server the owners would step in and make things happen, right? Then tell me where are the owners? The only reason we have been able to play for the most part of this year is because a player did us a favor and hosted the server himself. While Gandalf was enjoying himself playing SA:MP celebrating Argonaths birthday this year, I guess he forgot that we couldn't even celebrate that event this year because we didn't even have a server to play on. Seems to me the owners don't give a damn about VC:MP. If you have something to say about that, then tell that to every player of VC:MP who have already been waiting several weeks to be able to play.


Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Dennis. on August 08, 2014, 04:34:35 am
Well said.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Stivi on August 08, 2014, 08:04:41 am
He asked, though. SA:MP lives with "if you don't like it, leave".
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Luca Man on August 08, 2014, 08:47:30 am
A summer just like the last one. No server, no one giving a shit about us.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Ki-Reddy on August 08, 2014, 09:49:53 am
Sad to see that VCMP is so over-looked. Yet another summer with no server, as Luca said. Last time it got DDoS'ed it made me quit VCMP for quite a while, due to the fact that it was down for so long. I don't want to quit again. I'm still optimistic about the server coming back soon, but it's been a bit too long, and I'm starting to worry.


Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Kessu on August 08, 2014, 12:51:10 pm
He asked, though. SA:MP lives with "if you don't like it, leave".
I have no words to describe this post.

The stupidity in this post is just too damn high...
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Stivi on August 08, 2014, 01:51:49 pm
I have no words to describe this post.

The stupidity in this post is just too damn high...
He asked what the situation was with VC:MP when he came for Argo's Birthday.

And, if you don't like it the way it is, leave it.

Not sure if your IQ is enough to handle all that much logic I used in two sentences.

Don't you have admin boards ?
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: PulseEffect on August 08, 2014, 02:09:06 pm
Quote from: Rytis
"Completely agree with Klaus, this is getting annoying. Even though owners have been quite absent for a while, whenever SA:MP or IV:MP goes down, atleast their management have ways to get the server back up in no time, while when VC:MP goes down because of attacks on Argonath, it takes months and more to get us back up, which causes  huge player base losses that we are working hard to get. Hell, even MTA:VC, which anyone hardly plays anymore, has better control over their own server than we do. IF you guys don't care about us then atleast give us the ability to fix things when the server goes fubar, give us the control over host! Seriously.. Or shut us down completely! At all times I see people from all over Argonath HQ talking "We're one community, don't shit on other servers, we stand united blah blah blah", while the truth is, you give no damn about VC:MP. The server has been down for a good month now, and nobody gives a damn. If this was SAMP, it would have been up in a matter of hours. Stop with the hipocricy and either let us exist properly, or shut us down completely, for crying outloud."
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Tiny on August 08, 2014, 02:33:01 pm
Although I don't play here, I have intentions to visit the server because I love the game, and it's really sad to see this situation.. I think you should send your complains to the person who is responsible for this. Hope the server is back available for everyone, good luck getting it!
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: JDC on August 08, 2014, 03:17:12 pm
With MTA:VC long in limbo due to hosting issues, VC:MP is the last Vice City in Argonath. I hope to see this problem addressed at the soonest.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: brian1996 on August 08, 2014, 03:30:00 pm
This is getting rediculous, the server is again being neglected by the owners.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Joaoseinha on August 08, 2014, 03:38:40 pm
Reinstalled my Vice City after ~1 year of not playing(like 2 years of not playing actively) and I get here to see the server is closed. That's disappointing, but I can't say I'm too surprised, like other people have said already.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Luke on August 08, 2014, 04:13:38 pm
Removed.

Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Marcel on August 08, 2014, 04:47:34 pm
Removed.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Afyea on August 08, 2014, 05:27:07 pm
What's the point in running a server when only 10 people play on it?

Also Argonath will always be mostly SAMP.

That's my opinion anyways.



Seems not..

SAMP Dies out just like VC:MP does.. The game is 10 years old dude...

HostName: Argonath RPG
Address:  95.141.37.186:7777
Players:  32 / 200
Ping:     111
Mode:     Rock Stars RPG 5.0
Map:      San Andreas



32 players... Not like it was....
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Luke on August 08, 2014, 05:32:24 pm


Seems not..

SAMP Dies out just like VC:MP does.. The game is 10 years old dude...

HostName: Argonath RPG
Address:  95.141.37.186:7777
Players:  32 / 200
Ping:     111
Mode:     Rock Stars RPG 5.0
Map:      San Andreas



32 players... Not like it was....

We only have 32 due to the fact most of the players where motivated by cash, when the cash was reset no one wanted to return hence the reason why we have a small player count, but in my opinion it seems alright as it is slowly gaining. and with the help of the Advertisement Team we shall aim to bring in more players.

As for VCMP I would consider continuing hosting the server for yourselves then when you have a chance speak with Gandalf, and see how It will progress. But till then just come to San Andreas with us. We could do with some Veteran players on the SAMP server.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Kessu on August 08, 2014, 05:38:25 pm
What's the point in running a server when only 10 people play on it?

Also Argonath will always be mostly SAMP.

That's my opinion anyways.
What's the point of keeping you in the community when you're ready to close down it's servers without knowing shit about the server?

How about you turn your shit down a notch and start thinking before you post shit like that again.



@stivi

Really? REALLY? He asked, we answered, we were promised a place on the host and here we are, couple weeks later, still waiting for any contact while trying to contact the owner(s) ourselves.

- watch your language -
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: AK47 on August 08, 2014, 05:40:39 pm
Don't start the VC:MP vs SA:MP shit again..



It's really sad that VC:MP is down, hopefully it will be up and running again soon.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Kessu on August 08, 2014, 05:41:20 pm
If this topic keeps getting moderated in as biased manner as it is now then you better make damn sure you moderate the posts that are OBVIOUSLY provoking and hell, borderline shitting on VC:MP server.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Luke on August 08, 2014, 05:43:50 pm
What's the point of keeping you in the community when you're ready to close down it's servers without knowing shit about the server?

How about you turn your shit down a notch and start thinking before you post shit like that again.



@stivi

Really? REALLY? He asked, we answered, we were promised a place on the host and here we are, couple weeks later, still waiting for any contact while trying to contact the owner(s) ourselves.

- watch your language -

No need to get all hostile because you cant play your VCMP server, probably the reason why Gandalf wont keep it running because people like you don't appreciate it.

Also yet again don't start getting hostile to me.


Don't start the VC:MP vs SA:MP shit again..



It's really sad that VC:MP is down, hopefully it will be up and running again soon.

There is no VCMP v SAMP, they are both good, but sometimes you just have to accept the fact that VCMP is down and that there is more other servers supported by Argonath e.g SAMP.

Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Klaus on August 08, 2014, 05:47:44 pm
LucaM, do us all a favor and jog on.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Luke on August 08, 2014, 05:50:18 pm
LucaM, do us all a favor and jog on.

I shall no need to get butthurt son.

Its summer go out and have a party or something.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Kessu on August 08, 2014, 05:51:00 pm
No need to get all hostile because you cant play your VCMP server, probably the reason why Gandalf wont keep it running because people like you don't appreciate it.
You're saying I don't appreciate VC:MP server? I've played on this server for 6 and half years so don't you fucking come here saying we don't appreciate the server that WE'RE TRYING TO REVIVE.

Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Luke on August 08, 2014, 05:53:13 pm
You're saying I don't appreciate VC:MP server? I've played on this server for 6 and half years so don't you f**king come here saying we don't appreciate the server that WE'RE TRYING TO REVIVE.

Well, by constantly slamming the Owner I guess not.

I told you just wait man, as for everyone else I have no hate on the VC:MP server as I never play there.

Like I said I have no reason to sit and argue with you guys, but if you all keep swearing and getting abusive, no one will win, only the Administration.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Devin on August 08, 2014, 05:59:34 pm
Enough nonsense between VC:MP and SA:MP administration and players alike. This is not the place for a debate about SA:MP and VC:MP.
Making a public display to seek Gandalfs attention is not the way to do it nor will it solve anything.

Vulgarity and disrespect is no way for those that call themselves a part of the community to speak with one another.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Stivi on August 08, 2014, 06:01:28 pm
I'm with Luca.

Make war not peace.. I mean peace, not war.

Gandalf is on skype.
- stop provoking -


Making a public display to seek Gandalfs attention is not the way to do it nor will it solve anything.
That's why I'm posting here, don't get me wrong.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Kessu on August 08, 2014, 06:03:03 pm
Well, by constantly slamming the Owner I guess not.
It's not slamming if we're stating a fact.

I told you just wait man, as for everyone else I have no hate on the VC:MP server as I never play there.
Last time we waited 8 months, this time we're not planning on keeping the server down that long (again)

Like I said I have no reason to sit and argue with you guys, but if you all keep swearing and getting abusive, no one will win, only the Administration.
We are the administration, and last time I checked it was YOU who came in saying that the server should be shut down (btw, I wonder why you didn't get warned for it when someone else went straight to moderated for quoting your post and turning it on SAMP  :rolleyes:



Making a public display to seek Gandalfs attention is not the way to do it nor will it solve anything.
If you received no answer in private contact attempts for longest of times (other than the argo birthday), and SAMP would be down, would you just sit around and do nothing?

We've tried every other possible way.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Luke on August 08, 2014, 06:08:01 pm
I'm with Luca.

Make war not peace.. I mean peace, not war.

Gandalf is on skype.
-stop provoking-


That's why I'm posting here, don't get me wrong.

Glad someone is with me, I shouldn't have said the shit about the player count.

But there was no reason to act like I killed one of your family members.

There is no hate on VC:MP.

All servers are treated equally, also I understand your argument about the fact about Gandalf but you may have to sit and wait a little longer, there is more to life the Argonath RPG.
 
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Joaoseinha on August 08, 2014, 06:16:47 pm
You could be right about everything, but you aren't right about that, that's for damn sure. All servers are treated equally? I've played both a lot, if SA-MP goes down it's back in a matter of hours, days at most. Had to use the SA-MP example, not trying to start the SA-MP vs VC-MP thing again.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Stivi on August 08, 2014, 06:37:40 pm
You could be right about everything, but you aren't right about that, that's for damn sure. All servers are treated equally? I've played both a lot, if SA-MP goes down it's back in a matter of hours, days at most. Had to use the SA-MP example, not trying to start the SA-MP vs VC-MP thing again.
Last summer - weeks.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Kessu on August 08, 2014, 06:38:56 pm
Last summer - weeks.
VCMP Last year - 8 months.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Stivi on August 08, 2014, 06:42:07 pm
VCMP Last year - 8 months.
okay.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Marcel on August 08, 2014, 06:44:07 pm
It is time the server is allowed back on the main host, where DDoS attacks can be absorbed if only slightly. There has been time enough to perform that task which is why this public notice is posted today. The playerbase (which has been on the rise!) wants their server back. VC:MP is equally entitled to a hosting spot just like all others.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Ki-Reddy on August 08, 2014, 06:46:50 pm
What's the point in running a server when only 10 people play on it?

Also Argonath will always be mostly SAMP.

That's my opinion anyways.
Because the regulars love the server, are dedicated, and that Argonath became an offical server on VC:MP.
 
VCMP server, doesn't matter how many players are there deserves the same treatment as other servers do.

P.S: God damn, you SAMP'ers only bring drama in here. Please, the drama, keep it in the SAMP Board, don't bring it here.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Luke on August 08, 2014, 06:48:40 pm
Because the regulars love the server, are dedicated, and that Argonath became an offical server on VC:MP.
 
VCMP server, doesn't matter how many players are there deserves the same treatment as other servers do.

Yeah If established that via the amount of butt hurt people flaming me everywhere possible in the community.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Kessu on August 08, 2014, 06:51:40 pm
Yeah If established that via the amount of butt hurt people flaming me everywhere possible in the community.
And I will remind you yet again; you were the one coming here posting about a server you know nothing of that how it should be closed down and how Argonath is SAMP only.

Sure, two wrongs don't make it right but don't you try to play the victim, you got exactly what you deserved with that post of yours.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Ki-Reddy on August 08, 2014, 06:54:06 pm
And I will remind you yet again; you were the one coming here posting about a server you know nothing of that how it should be closed down and how Argonath is SAMP only.

(http://i62.tinypic.com/27xnxbl.jpg)

P.S: All of sudden loads of people are here viewing this thread O.O
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Luke on August 08, 2014, 06:59:08 pm
And I will remind you yet again; you were the one coming here posting about a server you know nothing of that how it should be closed down and how Argonath is SAMP only.

Sure, two wrongs don't make it right but don't you try to play the victim, you got exactly what you deserved with that post of yours.

Im not playing the victim im just laughing at the fact I say something about your server its like I hit a nerve, lol. You obviously love your VC:MP server more than anything, hence the reason you flew off the handle as soon as I said something about it.

Noted: Removed the post as I knew it offended everyone.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Skalleper on August 08, 2014, 07:12:54 pm
SAMP Dies out just like VC:MP does.. The game is 10 years old dude...

aaaaaaand you're saying that from what source? Last I checked Kalcor said that the stats were going up. But yea, you can base a game of a community, ok.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Joaoseinha on August 08, 2014, 07:16:58 pm
Last summer - weeks.
I don't think I was active during last summer, but that still doesn't compare to VC:MP's downtimes.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Teddy on August 08, 2014, 07:20:02 pm
I have a question, why is everyone arguing with someone with a very clear high degree of ignorance?

We all know he is wrong, as Marcel said... VC:MP has the right to be hosted here. We're a community, one big ass family... we don't disregard one just because of player base, as player base has nothing to do with the quality of RP that can flourish within it. No need to respond directly to him and make a huge mess you can't control. Just take a deep breath, ignore it, and move on with life. There is much more important things to focus our energy on.

Time to be responsible: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=84874.0



On topic, I hope you guys are able to get somewhere with regards to getting hosting sorted.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Ki-Reddy on August 08, 2014, 07:25:49 pm


Time to be responsible: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=84874.0

Error - "The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you"
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Kessu on August 08, 2014, 07:27:04 pm
Error - "The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you"
It was directed at admins.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Ki-Reddy on August 08, 2014, 07:29:10 pm
It was directed at admins.
Okay I see, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: psyron on August 08, 2014, 07:56:27 pm
I have always loved Vice City, will surely drop by after the server is fixed. Stay strong fellas!
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Chris_Knight on August 08, 2014, 08:37:01 pm
As an SAMP player I clearly agree VCMP is ignored,same with IVMP. Not sure when ever its due player base or people being used to SAMP as main and forgotten about other great gta generations we've had.

However as Kessu have said,players been loyal and dedicated for 6 and more years as Kessu him self,they definitely deserve at least server being up.

If you can't speak public without getting ass modirated or posts removed then Devin as him self should give an idea how to do otherwise to keep this up and not end up waiting another half a year.  :cowboy:
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on August 08, 2014, 09:30:23 pm
 Sad to see the total neglect toward VC:MP to continue. Eight years is it? Don't get me wrong, but I do not understand how most of you keep yapping about how perfect the server and community is just because you're part of the SAMP server.
 I've been on Argonath long enough, and I've seen SA:MP rise and fall.(Personal opinion, no need to censor me...please). And trough all those years I've spent here I've always admired the VC:MP part of the community.
 I've been on VC:MP a few times and I've enjoyed those few times more than the last year in SA:MP. Friendly community, people remain strong and don't fight between eachother.
 Stay strong Vice City MultiPlayer! Really hope the issue gets fixed soon. I'm missing playing on Argonath, so you have my full support. I can't do much about it, but if I could I'd do my best.
 Also, SA:MP players who haven't spent atleast a week on VC:MP, kindly fly away from this topic. Go moan about RS5 or something like you usually do, VC has enough troubles already.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Klaus on August 09, 2014, 12:04:07 pm
Thank you to those who are supporting the cause and realise what's really going on here. I'll stop slamming the owners when they practice what they preach. All servers are equal? Then show it.
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Nylez on August 09, 2014, 02:50:14 pm
4 pages of shit is all I see.

But as a becoming regular in VC:MP I really cannot understand why it doesn't get as much attention as SA:MP does.

I've "only" been here since 2011, but I never got bored of VC:MP in these 3 years.
How can you have many players ingame, if the server is down half of the time.

If the owners would step up and give us a stable server we can use 24/7, we from VC:MP can show that it is not dead at all.

As Marcel said, when he provided us a host, the player amount kept raising until the ddos attack happened.

So instead of arguing on this topic and making weird statements, why don't we all help each other contacting the person who can make sure Argonath RPG gets another stable server in their community.

We all want to play, don't we?
Title: Re: Back where we started
Post by: Klaus on August 09, 2014, 09:42:50 pm
We all want to play
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
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