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Metallica's History:
How did the Metallica phenomenon begin? Around 1980, many hard rockers were baffled by recent trends in metal, a feeling further aggravated by the appearance of Eddie Van Halen on "Beat It" by Michael Jackson. Enter Metallica. As a young band inspired by 70's hard rockers Black Sabbath, Judas Priest and Thin Lizzy, then refueled by the New Wave Of British Heavy Metal (NWOBHM) with its take-no-prisoners approach, Metallica, after their formation in 1981, crafted a new heavy metal sound, which fans would call speed-metal or thrash-metal. Bands like Megadeth, Slayer or Anthrax would soon follow the same direction. But Metallica would remain as the leader of this new league for years to come.
1981-1985
Rhythm guitarist / vocalist James Hetfield met drummer Lars Ulrich, who had placed an ad in a South California paper called The Recycler looking for musicians to play with, in the spring of 1981 and recorded some songs. The twosome were joined by Dave Mustaine (lead guitar) and Ron McGovney (bass). Metallica (the band name was actually "stolen" by Lars from a friend of his who wanted to call a fanzine like that) began gaining a large word-of-mouth reputation, particularly in Europe. The band had recorded a demo called "No Life 'Til Leather", containing the songs "Hit The Lights", "Mechanix", "Phantom Lord", "Jump In The Fire", Motorbreath", "Seek & Destroy" and "Metal Militia". Soon after, Metallica got a record deal with Megaforce and recorded in New York. At this point, the band had also settled into a firm line-up, dropping bassist Ron McGovney for Cliff Burton and lead guitarist Dave Mustaine (who later founded Megadeth) for former Exodus picker Kirk Hammett. In fact, Dave Mustaine got kicked out of the band after having a rough fight with Hetfield.
Though they had initially wanted to call their 1983 debut "Metal Up Your Ass", the more eloquently titled "Kill 'Em All" (released in July 1983) was still enough to do the trick, selling over 300,000 copies, thanks to the blazing songs written largely by Hetfield and Ulrich. Interestingly, the version of "Hit The Lights" that kicks off the album is less like what we now call "thrash" than an embellishment on the high speed boogies of Motorhead and their NWOBHM counterparts.
In December 1983, Metallica start working on material for their second album "Ride The Lightning", which saw the foursome cut away the remaining blues-based touches and play pure thrash. However, Metallica purposely threw in a ballad, "Fade To Black", to keep pushing the envelope outward. The album was released in June 1984.
"Ride The Lightning" also gave a clearer illustration of Metallica's unusual recording style than the first set. The band recorded every instrument separately, sometimes even measure for measure. So what one hears on a Metallica album is not really a metal quartet playing together but a power trio-Hetfield, Burton and Ulrich-and a de facto "solo-specialist", Kirk Hammett, who
only plays leads. All the rhythm guitar parts are Hetfield, though in concert both players share rhythm duties.
1986-1989
Metallica's landmark 1986 tour opening for Ozzy Osbourne is surely one of the most important events in the history of thrash. Not only did it mark the commercial acceptance of Metallica and speed-metal, as it was in support of the Top 30 "Master Of Puppets" album, but it also showed heavy metal coming full circle, as Ozzy-the Godfather of metal-symbolically passed the heavy metal baton to Metallica.
Of course, the historical significance of the Ozzy tour would be nil without "Master Of Puppets" (released in March 1986), an album many consider the greatest thrash recording ever made! From it came such classics as "Battery", "The Thing That Should Not Be" or "Welcome Home (Sanitarium)". As the lead guitarist, Hammett naturally got most of the attention from guitar fans, who marveled at his manic, speed-picked solos on "Battery" and "Damage Inc.", among others. His recorded tone was vastly improved from previous Metallica efforts, making his Strat and Flying V-powered speed runs easier to hear and his nervous, Tony Iommi-like vibrato all the more unnerving.
Despite the tremendous breakthrough Metallica made with "Master Of Puppets", the Ozzy shows and the public acceptance of thrash, 1986 still ended on a grim note, as Cliff Burton was killed in a tragic tour bus accident during the Scandinavian leg of the tour.
But Metallica realized that Burton would have wanted them to carry on and that they did, picking up Jason Newsted from the rising hardcore act, Floatsam and Jetsam. And to prove their intentions, the revitalized foursome jumped into the studio in 1987 to bang out some guitar-drenched cover tunes by such band favorites as Diamond Head, Killing Joke, and the Misfits. These sessions were released as "The $5.98 E.P./Garage Days Re-Revisited", a mini album that was well received by fans and, surprisingly, even by critics, who appreciated the band's non mainstream tastes and studio spontaneity.
Two years after "Master Of Puppets" forever changed the rules of heavy metal, Metallica reappeared with "...and Justice For All", an album which blasted into the Top10, earned them a write-up in the prestigious New York Times Magazine, and confirmed every rave write-up or word-of-mouth recommendation ever given to the band. Despite a noted lack of bottom end, muscular tracks like "Blackened", "The Shortest Straw", and "Dyers Eve" showed the central Hetfield/Ulrich writing combination to be as potent as ever, while "One" was nominated for a Grammy in 1989. Metallica performed the song at the awards show, but laughably lost out to Jethro Tull.
1992-PRESENT
In 1992, the band was back with "Metallica" (or "The Black Album"). By paring down the arrangements and coercing Hetfield to actually sing (rather than his typical grunt 'n roar), the Black Album pushed Metallica over the top. The trigger was the full bore rocker "Enter Sandman", which featured a punishing bass-string hook, a typically spazzed-out Hammett solo, and some seriously beefed up drum tracks (thanks to producer Bob Rock). More powerhouse hits emerged from the disc: the ballad "Nothing Else Matters" (with a superb Hetfield Solo), "The Unforgiven", "Wherever I May Roam", among other strong album tracks. The album, selling over ten million copies, and ensuing tours proved to be the blockbuster metal event of the early '90s (remember the snake pit?).
In 1996, Metallica reacted to the alternative/grunge movement with "Load", which featured lighter guitar textures and grooves. Thanks to a highly controversial cover, a new logo and new musical style, longtime fans jeered the album's '90s-rock fare, including the fairly heavy single "Until It Sleeps". But a generation of young fans raised on Nirvana and Pearl Jam responded favorably, and "Load" proved to be another big hit, as did the following tour.
And in November 1997, Metallica released "ReLoad", a new studio album filled with tracks recorded during the original "Load" sessions, which was supposed to be a double-CD. Reactions to it have been generally positive, as the songs have definitely become more elaborate again.
In November 1998, Metallica issue a third volume of the "Garage Days" series, entitled "Garage Inc.", which will include cover songs from the original "Garage Days Revisited" and the famous "Garage Days Re-Revisited", as well as many covers previously only released as B-sides on various singles.
After the "Loads", this seems to be a return to the sound and music of the thrash metal era!!
The next milestone was then to be set on April 24th 1999, when Metallica played togehter with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra, directed by Michael Kamen. It's not been the first time that Rock and Classic would meet, but definitely the best! The show was later then released as a double CD and a video. A must-see experience!
Metallica's albums:
Kill 'Em All Released in 1983
Ride The Lightning Released in 1984
Master Of Puppets Released in 1986
...And Justice For All Released in 1988
Black Album Released in 1991
Load Released in 1996
Re-Load Released in 1997
Garage Inc. Released in 1998
S&M Released in 1999
St. Anger Released in 2003
Metallica's DVDs:
Cliff 'Em All Released in 1987
2 of One Released in 1989
A year and a half in the life of Metallica Released in 1992
Live Shit Binge and Purge Released in 1993
Cunning Stunts Released in 1998
S&M Released in 2000
Metallica Classic Albums Released in 2001
Metallica - Dark Souls Released in 2003
Some Kind Of Monster Released in 2005
Metallica's pictures:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Metallica_live_London_2003-12-19.jpg/267px-Metallica_live_London_2003-12-19.jpg)
(http://www.edgartadeo.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/metallica-sadbuttrue1.jpg)
(http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/music/slideshow/liveearth/img_4.jpg)
(http://www.judas-blog.de/wp-content/metallica_ring20061.jpg)
(http://www.ilikemusic.com/images/article_images/full/metallica_live2006_f.jpg)
(http://www.livemetallica.com/images/shows/pic48.jpg)
Current band members:
James Alan Hetfield (Vocals, rythm guitar):
(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4300/24781jameshetfield20041ts8.jpg)
(http://www.totalmetallica.com/images/james-hetfield7.jpg)
Kirk Lee Hammett (Lead guitar):
(http://www.metallica.sk/images/band_kirk2003.jpg)
(http://metclub.ru/docs/band/kirk.jpg)
Robert Trujillo (Bass guitar):
(http://www.therockradio.com/robert-trujillo.jpg)
(http://www.metallica.sk/newsimages/prague_2004_robert_trujillo.jpg)
Lars Ulrich (Drums):
(http://www.encycmet.com/equipment/LarsKit4.jpg)
(http://www.drummerworld.com/pics/drum/drummerpictures11/Lars%20Ulrich.jpg)
Jason Newsted (Bass guitar from 1986-2001):
(http://www.rockstargohome.com/Images/jnfest97f.jpg)
(http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/membre_groupe/photo/Jason_Newsted-12762.jpg)
Cliff Lee Burton (Bass guitar from 1982-1986, died in a car accident):
(http://home.swipnet.se/blacksheep/cliff.jpg)
(http://daz.com/img/00/00/00/2059.jpg)
Many people say that he was the best bass guitarist in the world and they are not wrong.
Because i love this band too much then i had to make this topic. :rules:
Please don't flame, spamm etc. here. Just talk about Metallica.
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Metallica is old, mottom line. Nothing to say, just old old old.
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yeh very very old, who is Metallica :lol:
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So what if it's old? Look how many people still are fans of Metallica ... Claire and drib, you haven't seen them in live, so don't say they're old. :hurray:
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i dont even know who they are, i was joking so.... :conf: :lol:
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:lol: Was only a matter of time before you brought this topic up
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Metallica are old, and still one of the greatest.
Do not deny the power of Metallica, please. Some say their new CDs sucks, well that's a fucken' lie! Everyone changes.
I listen to allot of music, Metallica is one of my main love love blah blah crap... Metallica rules, mmkay?
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I didnt say they suck, I still listen to Metallica. Enter the Sandman and I Disappear being my favourite.
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Metallica is old, mottom line. Nothing to say, just old old old.
What does mottom means? seriously.
Metalica only has a good music. Unforgiven.
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Im saying they are old
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I Disappear <3 , Hey hey hey! One of my favorite songs.
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Lets face it.. new metal bands do nothing but suck, there may be a few exceptions but I can't think of any atm.
Though I don't like Metallica, they are one of the most influential Metal bands regarding the era and what it started, as is with other bands from the same "scene"... old old old=better better better
Recently, they suck even to some Metallica fans, I have heard many of these people say Megadeth is beating them with ease.
I'm finding it hard to write this, because I want to say so much, but I don't know where to start.
I'd much rather listen to some 80's-early 90's thrash, with a real underground feel, rather than over-processed, recent metal.
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i rather AC/DC :) but Metallica are a great band...
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Yea , tough Metallica had hard times from 1992-2006, now they have manager and if you've heard the 2007 lives, then James has changed his voice. James voice may suck maybe but the guitar play will be always same powerful.
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AC/DC :lol:
Metallica is almost a part of my life. Even though they released Load, ReLoad and St. Anger, I love them. I love to see them live, and I love to listen to their (old) records. Too bad Cliff died (it was a bus accident, not a car accident), but I can say that Rob is an even better bass player. I hope to see them 2008 again :)
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Metallica PWNZZZ^^
Well its the only band in that category i like, well, IM pwns to ^^ But Metallica 4 Life^^
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Metallica is Cool but, they are sellouts now.
i hated them after they cut their hair.
-Hayden
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Right Rob, Metallica showed out their new "style" after releasing "Load" album. Some of you might remember when Kirk had short black hair and had black nails or when Kirk was skinhead. But yes, there are too many new metal bands that just ... Suck, okey. But maybe some bands like Slipknot etc. have captured some real insane metal lover hearts. Tough they have 8 (i might be wrong) members in band.
Nowadays metal bands try to get famous by buyng a guitar and smashing it in live camera. This is just horrible, you can't even hear the words of the songs. Only screaming and yelling. If you want to get far with metal then you must do it with heart still.
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Man i dont wanna read :S
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Man i dont wanna read :S
And I don't want you to post stupid stuff...
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excuse me ?
Edit: Excuse me? Please watch your language, no flaming
Admin: Marc2984
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AC/DC :lol:
whats that meant to mean?? :lol:
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whats that meant to mean?? :lol:
Nah, nothing really. Just that you prefer AC/DC over Metallica. We all got our own taste...
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I think their best live was in Moscow 1991 ... There were 600 000-1 000 000 people.
[yt=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSeaeBurfWg[/yt]
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Metallica is Cool but, they are sellouts now.
i hated them after they cut their hair.
-Hayden
thats why you don't cut your hair?
(off topic: what happened to venicequeen ?)
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I think their best live was in Moscow 1991 ... There were 600 000-1 000 000 people.
[yt=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSeaeBurfWg[/yt]
Either Moscow, Seattle or San Diego. They are all awesome. But I believe Moscow is the best.
Imagine the Moscow gig on a DVD :roll:
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Yeah Robby.
"no shavin' till metallica", check it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37219663@N00/sets/72157594281948201/
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Yeah Robby.
"no shavin' till metallica", check it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37219663@N00/sets/72157594281948201/
Yeah, I've seen that, it's awesome. Maybe a little bit of overdrive, but what the hell :P
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www.livemetallica.com offers very good live songs. Some concerts even for free to download.
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www.livemetallica.com offers very good live songs. Some concerts even for free to download.
Old Waldorf, San Francisco -82 :lol:
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Well i have Austin 89, Gothenberg 87 and Orlando 03. The 2 first one you should listen, just powerful play. :D
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Gothenburg -87 in Lisebergshallen is pretty good. I like when something happens with the lights during The Four Horsemen, everything shuts down or something, except from Jason's channel..
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Yeah, that part in One is nice too when there are only darkness and blue lights among the words, "darnkess, imprisoning me, all that i see, absolute horror ...".
Posted on: 14-12-2007, 07:14:15
Refreshing the topic so it wouldn't die.
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metallica is by far one of my favorite all time band. i have every album they relased. im goin to see them in october in charlotte, North Carolina.
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metallica is by far one of my favorite all time band. i have every album they relased. im goin to see them in october in charlotte, North Carolina.
SRSLY LOOK AT THE DATE D _ :
Last post on December 18, 2007! How many pages did you search through to find this? Necropost...
Btw, I thought this was QFT back then, and I still do now.
Metallica is Cool but, they are sellouts now.
i hated them after they cut their hair.
-Hayden
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SRSLY LOOK AT THE DATE D _ :
Last post on December 18, 2007! How many pages did you search through to find this? Necropost...
Btw, I thought this was QFT back then, and I still do now.
i no this topic was dead. i was just searching around and saw this, an i like metallica alot so i had to reply. i noticed it was old. :roll:
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Ugh, Metallica are possibly one of the worst bands I've ever heard. Not a single song of theirs is any good. At least Iron Maiden (who suck almost as bad) has like 1 song that isn't total crap.
In my opinion, Metallica are eclipsed only in crapness and yet popularity by the Sex Pistols, who are admittedly worse than raping your own ears.
By the way, kudos on the necrobump.
When this topic was made, RS3 was pretty new, let alone RS4.
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Ugh, Metallica are possibly one of the worst bands I've ever heard. Not a single song of theirs is any good. At least Iron Maiden (who suck almost as bad) has like 1 song that isn't total crap.
In my opinion, Metallica are eclipsed only in crapness and yet popularity by the Sex Pistols, who are admittedly worse than raping your own ears.
By the way, kudos on the necrobump.
When this topic was made, RS3 was pretty new, let alone RS4.
i mean hey, we all have our own opinion on music. it all depends on the person. i just have always liked them, even though i wasnt even alive when they were in there prime (80's).
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What can I say, I like MCR, FOB and A7X. I'm not into the old stuff ;).
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What can I say, I like MCR, FOB and A7X. I'm not into the old stuff ;).
i understand, MCR is ok i gess. i have only heard a few of there songs. but for recent music i like Disturbed, System of a Down, Slipknot, Crossfade.
you know, stuff like that.
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What can I say, I like MCR, FOB and A7X.
In other words, the kind of music that makes me want to kill myself. (Especially FOB)
You can't compare them to Metallica, Metallica is hard rock - what you mentioned is (no offense) emo pop rock.
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metallica is by far one of my favorite all time band. i have every album they relased. im goin to see them in october in charlotte, North Carolina.
Awesome bump.
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Ugh, Metallica are possibly one of the worst bands I've ever heard. Not a single song of theirs is any good. At least Iron Maiden (who suck almost as bad) has like 1 song that isn't total crap.
In my opinion, Metallica are eclipsed only in crapness and yet popularity by the Sex Pistols, who are admittedly worse than raping your own ears.
By the way, kudos on the necrobump.
When this topic was made, RS3 was pretty new, let alone RS4.
Lol your taste of music is really stupid :D
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You can't compare them to Metallica, Metallica is hard rock - what you mentioned is (no offense) emo pop rock.
None taken, I agree (except A7X, of course).
Music is music, you can compare just as easily. I personally think those bands are better than Metallica.
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Metallica, best band in world :) ive been listening to Metallica music for a while now.. mostly like the live song ' Justice Medley'' from Justice Tour where they took all facorite parts from the album and made it a fucking awsome heavy song!
Metallica for the win!!!11one!11
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Metallica, amonst a few other bands were pioneers for Thrash Metal, and I respect them for that. They are indeed, in my opinion one of those bands that will be in the history books of Metal/Rock.
Also, Metallica is one of Dream Theater's Influences :D (Kinda shows how long they have been around for :eek: )
But yes, none of the less, great band.
In my view, what makes good music is the following - Good musicianship, skill involved (none of that crap where you just play 3 chords throughout the whole song and your done), technicallity, and ofcourse, good tunes and melodies ontop of all of this. Now for a band who can do this, and I do think Metallica have, It requires alot of skill.
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Music is music, you can compare just as easily.
Compare beethoven with cannibal corpse and see how it goes.
And as you said, it's a matter of taste - I just don't think you should compare (imo) two different genres.
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Metallica are overated imo. The only albusm I enjoy these days are the first two probably because alot of the riffs were written by Mustaine who is a superior writter to Hammet. As for the other albums MOP and AJFA bore me alot and I find them both to be very stale. As for the newer stuff The Black Album and load were dull straight up heavy metal and reload was the former two albeit in cover form. I don't think ST Anger needs any description, Stell tin can drum of death nuff said. As for the newest one its a return to their thrash sound but a more AJFA sound, an era which as mentioned I dont enjoy. Clearly I can't deny their impact upon metal but imo Slayer are the best thrash band as their sound pushed in terms of sheer speed and extremity (see Reign and Blood) and also a proggier side (Seasons In The Abyss and South of Heaven).
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Compare beethoven with cannibal corpse and see how it goes.
Technically that would be possible, when comparing them musically.
Although for this particular example, you'd probably have to go deeper into the actual structure than with most.
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Beethoven at his time was how we see Metal, punk or Death Metal now (believe it or not).
He was a very rebellious person going against all the classical rules of music, such as structures/forms.
And he was unique in his compositional styles.
Music that is 'rebellious' these days that 'break rules', are typically punk rock, and the variations of rock and metal. That is, music that broke the rules. Metallica when first formed broke many rules that were layed down by Metal bands of the previous generation. (Think Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin or early Iron Maiden, then compare to Metallica). Many rock bands were known for breaking rules, making their own up etc.
Imo, they are comparable but to an extent. Ofcourse, apart from this point, there is no other comparison I can see.
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Beethoven at his time was how we see Metal, punk or Death Metal now (believe it or not).
He was a very rebellious person going against all the classical rules of music, such as structures/forms.
And he was unique in his compositional styles.
Music that is 'rebellious' these days that 'break rules', are typically punk rock, and the variations of rock and metal. That is, music that broke the rules. Metallica when first formed broke many rules that were layed down by Metal bands of the previous generation. (Think Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin or early Iron Maiden, then compare to Metallica). Many rock bands were known for breaking rules, making their own up etc.
Imo, they are comparable but to an extent. Ofcourse, apart from this point, there is no other comparison I can see.
To further the point made about Metallicas sound (created by breaking the rules so to speak) it can be explained by saying the Thrash sound came from a combination of New Wave Of Brittish Heavy Metal (Judas Priest, Iron Maiden Saxon), hardcore punk (Black Flag, Minor Threat, Dead Kennedys) and Speed Metal (Motorhead). On a slighlty off kilter point we owe alot to the hardcore punk movement in shaping metal into what it is today as from thrash began a quest to get more extreme hence why black and death metal and grindcore amongst many a netal sub genre came to be.