Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: ODSTHelljumper89 on December 10, 2007, 06:21:27 am

Title: New ideas..
Post by: ODSTHelljumper89 on December 10, 2007, 06:21:27 am
 Here are some cool ideas for the server... I think we need a way to get some money from the server itself and players too, because I have gone 3 days without making any profit from my DWU ideas.. I was thinking of a fishing script where you could buy a fishing pool from a 24/7 and then fish at the peer to get your lvl up and then sell at 24/7.. since this is at RPG server why is there no possibly to get money from the server itself?
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Jnn on December 10, 2007, 06:58:14 am
All the drugs you get come from the server itself, they just aren't in the money form yet. :)
Every suspect that you kill gives some extra money from server itself + some money from the suspect.

And a lot more.


But I understand what you mean and I agree, there could be some more ways to get money, but they can't be too easy ones. :)

Once players start to have more money and property, I am sure that money will move a lot more from player to player than it does right now.
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: ODSTHelljumper89 on December 10, 2007, 08:25:34 am
 Thanks Jnn for the reply :D yeah.. most of the money made from the old scripts was from killing suspects and I think a lot of other players will agree, the peak of money was at the end of the last scripts.. but now it seems even more hard  to make moneys.. lets see.

1. All the players who were at the first day of new scripts received, 10k plus another 40k for being there.

2. So about 70 players had 50k to start.

3. But some players came late and only got 10k.

4. Some players didn't even get 10k yet and didn't you were supposed to.

5. Take into account, that some people won prizes at Argonath Nobel Awards.

6. Some people used /loan and bought a 275k business and recived a extra 25k from that.

7. It is past due for most of the player bought business of the 300k loan period am I right? Or can you decide to pay it any time or not at all?

8. So thats some money floating around, most spent on guns at ammunations and bugs such as following through floors of buildings and having to re-enter.

9. Some people make cash as cop, but on these scripts more hard as you only get 250 for a killed suspect? I have no clue about jail, as I am not ARPD anymore and don't care for cops.

10. So thats all the money on the server, not sure how anymore will be made if people must pay the 300k loan...

 well that is just a guide at where all the money is at, it would be nice if the server could generate money for people. You know fishing, and other things so you don't have to interact with other players as much to make a living.

 Drugs work? Not sure haven't tested it out at all, I am too busy trying to promote my idea of a Workers Union but no one seems to take notice unless its gang related or something.

 Seems like all RP is on some main admin doing /ad Come to RSTARS hotel or disney land.. I wish to see more RL RP like people driving better or cops not stopping every damn person they see and asking for a fucking fine.

 
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Jnn on December 10, 2007, 10:06:04 am
If you don't pay the loan when you are supposed to, you lose your bussiness and your money. That's how I have understood it. I am not sure though, I don't even own a bussiness myself.

About drugs, I think they were fixed yesterday.. Atleast something was done about drugs. :trust:

And, in case you haven't noticed, there often are events held by admins - for example races, small destruction derbys, stunting contests etc. - that's a good way to win some money. ;)
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Indigo on December 10, 2007, 12:58:09 pm
..but now it seems even more hard  to make moneys..

10. So that's all the money on the server, not sure how anymore will be made if people must pay the 300k loan...

I agree with you. Now it's much harder to make moneys.. :/

Also I thought about the loan. Lets see: mostly in game I am a cop. Everyone knows how much money a cop gets for killing a suspected. The worst problem is if a suspected surrenders and while escorting him to any PD the game crashes :/ in that case you don't get anything. If I would take a loan, and the loan should be returned in one month, I doubt that being a cop in game is possible to get the that sum back. Ppl don't go to other business's coz they are saving the money to get the loan back. Even RP become somehow more inactive only because the players thinking about how to return the money back.. If you noticed the atmosphere because of MONEY got worse :/ ppl are angry in game, flaming insulting much more than it was in 2.1 script. I don't think that the money should be the problem for anyone, coz that brakes the RP spirit of everyones. Well yes, ppl that were on Opening party got money, admins got money because they are admins, and what to do to ppl that couldn't take part in that party and are not admins? :S Well, I think you know mostly thoughts of other ordinary players about this script. As I see mostly of them are just waitting and thinking what will it be, when the month will pass..? what will happen when a good players will loose their business or houses (if they own any) only because that they couldn't get that sum of money..? I was being a taxi driver, drug seller, mostly cop in game and could get only 20k from the beginning. So what was the date of Opening and how much time passed since than?
I really think that's gonna take us into confusion, and I wouldn't want that coz this is a game where ppl should have a really good relax, participate in evenings and RP situations, and not only to think how to get money to get back the loan in 1 month period..

Well, will see...
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: CBFasi on December 10, 2007, 02:49:34 pm
Definately need to sort something out on the finance front.

As most know I spend a fair bit of my time in a helicopter bsed fo SFPD, I get nothing for assisting in chse work or moving displaced cops around the map.

The little cash I have is from mostly donations (although I did get 1k from a v v v nice person I gave a lift to while as a civvy helo pilot) or the really odd occasion when a heli cop actaully makes an arrest (2 or 3 so far!).

As many realise I enjoy doing the heli work, and with Teamspeak the comms is rather active getting ground units to do the final work.

A 'minimal' pay level such as say $50 for every hour or two online might help, its not much but should be enough to offset the numourous car fillups (where my 99% of my money is spent, no weapons, no skins, no house, no business, just odd drinks to boost health back up).  (this btw should encourage people to stay on the server, even when they start to get a little bored!)

As for the money that many got for being at the start... not entirely my fault I wasnt there, I wasn't even near acomputer, was away.  As a result I started with $0 and have rarely seen above $3k.

Its sad but it seems the biggest way to obtain cash in this server is to 'break the law' not so good for someone who rp's within the law.
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Aragorn on December 10, 2007, 03:04:00 pm
If atmosphere on server is awful cos all are thinking about money - time to shut down such freaking server or ban every "angry" player who makes atmosphere awful cos he cannot get more money...

And what are those complains about money???
What a bullshit about "all RPG is in ad GO TO RSTAR"... When did you see this go to RSTAR?? Stop bullshit as if admins are making business abusing power to increase money...

People suggest TONS of work... Just accept it and work and get money...
I made announcement about Courts... Jury - 3000$... And what was??? 50 players on server - no fucking applied to be a jury... Who was? again admins, yeah, cos they came and helped... Those who were security got their money, even lawyers and witnesses got money... And Jury? 12 slots to make 3000$ - none was fucking care...

Instead of suggesting stupid (sorry) fishing scripts that has nothing to our RPG vision, apply for jobs...

Newspaper - one article - 3000$... All you need - to write about some event and make a screenshot...
Lets count... 3 articles - 9000$... Besides it will be the Oscar nomination "The best reporter" which will bring more money...

Miss Argonath... On 50 players took part 15... Again what is the problem???

Jokes Nights in the Clubs... 1 joke - 1000$... Again none is going...

Probably easier - to shit, to flame, to report about every accidental ramming, etc...

What can I say??? We suggest MORE then shitty sitting as dumb and fishing then go to shop and sell... You do not need a multiplayer then... Sorry to say it, but it is kinda annoying when players have no ideas, when developers bring ideas and none using it and still complaining...
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Tovenaarke on December 10, 2007, 03:34:41 pm
Wow, great talk Ron!

I know what you mean, i take some jobs from other ppl (non-admins...), and they pay too (ok not much, but somthing is better than nothing..).

I wont apply me as Jury, because i dont know much about it... But maybe i try to write an article...

And, yea i know, the admins are very buzzy! Look what they brought: A GREAT RPG server!! (with crashes, but one they i hope they are gone...)

Greetz
- Tovenaarke

(but still, i like the fish idea  ;))
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Lustigkurre on December 10, 2007, 05:06:14 pm
before you come with new ideas, try to fix everything that doesn't work on the current script
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: RobbyMeister on December 10, 2007, 08:07:42 pm
Aragorn is so right. I didn't knew that you got cash from writing an article for the newspaper. I was going to write articles anyway, some interesting ones! Let's hope my IP is getting unbanned soon, so I can make the interviews and take the pictures I need.
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: ODSTHelljumper89 on December 10, 2007, 08:39:15 pm
If atmosphere on server is awful cos all are thinking about money - time to shut down such freaking server or ban every "angry" player who makes atmosphere awful cos he cannot get more money...

And what are those complains about money???
What a bullshit about "all RPG is in ad GO TO RSTAR"... When did you see this go to RSTAR?? Stop bullshit as if admins are making business abusing power to increase money...

People suggest TONS of work... Just accept it and work and get money...
I made announcement about Courts... Jury - 3000$... And what was??? 50 players on server - no fucking applied to be a jury... Who was? again admins, yeah, cos they came and helped... Those who were security got their money, even lawyers and witnesses got money... And Jury? 12 slots to make 3000$ - none was fucking care...

Instead of suggesting stupid (sorry) fishing scripts that has nothing to our RPG vision, apply for jobs...

Newspaper - one article - 3000$... All you need - to write about some event and make a screenshot...
Lets count... 3 articles - 9000$... Besides it will be the Oscar nomination "The best reporter" which will bring more money...

Miss Argonath... On 50 players took part 15... Again what is the problem???

Jokes Nights in the Clubs... 1 joke - 1000$... Again none is going...

Probably easier - to shit, to flame, to report about every accidental ramming, etc...

What can I say??? We suggest MORE then shitty sitting as dumb and fishing then go to shop and sell... You do not need a multiplayer then... Sorry to say it, but it is kinda annoying when players have no ideas, when developers bring ideas and none using it and still complaining...

 Ok you got me.. maybe all I need to do is listen to government ads to get money :D I guess I could do newspaper reporter.
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Pandalink on December 10, 2007, 09:17:49 pm
Newspaper - one article - 3000$... All you need - to write about some event and make a screenshot...
Lets count... 3 articles - 9000$... Besides it will be the Oscar nomination "The best reporter" which will bring more money...

Miss Argonath... On 50 players took part 15... Again what is the problem???

Jokes Nights in the Clubs... 1 joke - 1000$... Again none is going...

Probably easier - to shit, to flame, to report about every accidental ramming, etc...


I did tell a few jokes.. but you weren't listening  :D


As for the Economical Status, I have a name for the upcoming Loan-Day.

Economic Suicide.

As I can see currently, the Inflation is not offsetting the deflation, or is having very little rise on it. Now I'm not an economist, but thats bad, right?
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Indigo on December 10, 2007, 11:28:47 pm
Panda, fix your quote pls ;)





edited.

thank you
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Dave on December 11, 2007, 12:09:00 am
then... Sorry to say it, but it is kinda annoying when players have no ideas, when developers bring ideas and none using it and still complaining...
i have ideas, but no one will RP along with them, as you saw, i runa  mobile shop, no none is interested everyone is interested in fucking drugs, you can never find drugs  half the time...
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: ODSTHelljumper89 on December 11, 2007, 05:14:13 am
 I know Dave.. drugs are fucked and most cops drive by with bikes.. to kill you
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Aragorn on December 11, 2007, 12:13:25 pm
I know Dave.. drugs are fucked and most cops drive by with bikes.. to kill you

I think you were on other servers... I did not see any cop drive bying... So I can suppose there 1-2 but not MOST...
If you accuse almost ALL players who play as cops - screenshots please...
Posted on: December 11, 2007, 12:10:55 PM
i have ideas, but no one will RP along with them, as you saw, i runa  mobile shop, no none is interested everyone is interested in fucking drugs, you can never find drugs  half the time...

It is not a time for furniture yet, people are trying to buy houses, cars, businesses... And its all not lil money...
The topic was about inventing the money into the game to spread it between players (as I understood), so I answered, that we do it, just not our problem people do not want to earn it, do not want to take part in events, and just want to sit at the coast typing /fish /fish /fish...
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: ODSTHelljumper89 on December 11, 2007, 04:56:23 pm
 Well I just wanted a way to get money from the server..
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Dave on December 11, 2007, 06:27:10 pm
Well, when these events do happen i (a) Crash or (b) can never find them :/
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Jnn on December 11, 2007, 06:33:39 pm
Crashes don't happen so often anymore so if you manage to crash everytime there's an event, I suggest you to not lotto or bet tonight - you'll most likely lose your money.

If you can't find events, you need a reminder about SA areas. ;)
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Trix on December 11, 2007, 06:57:23 pm
Well, when these events do happen I (a) Crash or (b) can never find them :/

read the ad's ?

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Contact the owners of business's and ask them if they need employment.

Contact a owner of a business and ask if they want you to advertise there business for a fee.

Sell stuff anything, I've sold stuff from bathroom suites to underwear that cleans itself from your own sweat ! its an rp server anything goes.

Taxi's are easier to make money from in my eyes, 1. people cannot steal your car when you stop to pick them up or ask if they need a ride, and 2. you can charge up to $50

Hold your own event ? if you have a business it is easier to /ad your business is having a party but you could have a party on LS Airstrip and charge $50 per person at gates I don't see anything wrong with that.

and just want to sit at the coast typing /fish /fish /fish...

I cracked up at that. hehehe
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: ODSTHelljumper89 on December 11, 2007, 09:44:46 pm
 Maybe I do want to fish? What is the problem with that? It is a RPG server its the same as /finddrugs /finddrugs /finddrugs or /suspect /suspect
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Aragorn on December 12, 2007, 12:16:39 am
Maybe I do want to fish? What is the problem with that? It is a RPG server its the same as /finddrugs /finddrugs /finddrugs or /suspect /suspect

no it is not the same... The drugs and suspect are the element of MULTIplayer, and /fish /fish /fish - no...
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Marack on December 12, 2007, 04:47:50 am
better yet just fix the casinos :D
Title: Re: New ideas..
Post by: Jnn on December 12, 2007, 06:03:14 am
Maybe I do want to fish? What is the problem with that?

Then, roleplay that you are fishing and sell those fishes to players. You don't need a real script for that. ;)

Fixing casinos... Maybe not. :roll:
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