Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP Unban Requests => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP Closed Unban Requests => Topic started by: jovanca on September 17, 2014, 04:02:33 am
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Your in-game name:
[GSF]Jov_Weber
Ban reason as was stated in-game:
the kind that bans them afterward you fucking twat, provoking..
Admin who banned you:
Abe
When you were banned:
Just few minutes before the creation of request
Additional notes:
Haha i'm not really sure what happened but i'll provide you the full chat log of the situation so u judge if the ban is valid or invalid.
[03:48:44] PM from Abe(3): I'll be fucking honest mate.
[03:48:48] PM to Abe(3): yes?
[03:48:52] PM from Abe(3): Give me slick attitude again and I will ban you.
[03:48:58] PM to Abe(3): what for?
[03:49:21] PM from Abe(3): This is not a discussion, if you don't know what I'm referring to then that's your loss.
[03:49:32] PM to Abe(3): lol u just said u would be honest
[03:49:37] PM to Abe(3): so why dont u answer my question?
[03:50:01] PM from Abe(3): Because you should know what I'm talking about.
[03:50:07] PM to Abe(3): well i got no idea
[03:50:16] PM to Abe(3): so simply tell me or dont pm me such things at all
[03:50:53] PM from Abe(3): Alright you fucking asshole
[03:51:02] PM to Abe(3): haha some1 is mad now or what?
[03:51:02] PM from Abe(3): I come to you as a motherfucking admin and tell you to act the fuck up
[03:51:09] PM from Abe(3): That means you should act the fuck up.
[03:51:15] PM to Abe(3): haha
[03:51:19] PM from Abe(3): Instead you give me some bullshit.
[03:51:27] PM to Abe(3): what kind of admin are you calling members of the community assholes?
[03:51:44] PM to Abe(3): please, go ahead and ban me.
[03:51:47] [GSF]Jov_Weber, you have been banned by Abe(3) for the kind that bans them afterward you fucking twat, provoking..
[03:51:47] If you feel this is an error, please visit www.argonathrpg.com and place an unban request.
[03:51:47] [GSF]Jov_Weber has been banned by Abe(3) for the kind that bans them afterward you fucking twat, provoking..
[03:51:48] {FFFFFF}Mams_Thagoon{FFFFFF}: (0) lmao
[03:51:49] Server closed the connection.
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I'm not here to argue whether my ban was valid or not.
This is what lead up to your ban;
You were acting like an ass thinking he can do and say whatever he wants.
You provoked other players.
You refused to roleplay and deathmatched instead.
You provoked an admin when confronted.
- I was going to tempban you, I crashed, returned and decided to talk to you instead.
Instead I get this "Oh the big bad admins going to set me straight, HAH, I'm a badboy for life I'll set HIM straight by questioning everything he says although I'm quite f**king aware of what I've done since I just did it like two f**king seconds ago ermergerd!!"
My method of approach, questionable perhaps, when viewed in black and white.
I got pissed and called you an asshole and a twat, I'm sorry for that.
I never originally intended on actually punishing you, rather the opposite, hence my language.
[03:51:44] PM to Abe(3): please, go ahead and ban me.
However you did literally ask for it so please enjoy.
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You have every right in the world to report me to HQ through [email protected] (which I recommend if you felt unjustfully banned, which you clearly do).
IF you are still wanting to debate this you can do it with me through Skype as nothing will come out of us arguing back and forth over this topic, if this sounds interesting to you feel free to forum PM me for my address, thanks.
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A guy trolled me on purpose by leaving me in the desert given up, and coming back 3 minutes later. When he jailed me i punched him 3 times and he answered the same way. After that i jumped away from him and sandi blocked the door to protect me from the guy. After that u messaged us to start rping on which i did answer kinda trolly by using '/me rps'. After that i didn't interract with anyone then five minutes later out of nowhere you pmed me.
I wasnt really provoking anyone. The only thing that i assume was taken as provocation was me asking Monte if he would go off soon.
You clearly banned me for asking you what kind of admin you are and not cos of anything i said after that.
And no i dont need to discuss anything else with you. When i tried doing that, you let me know that there will be no disussion and flamed me after so ive kinda had enough talking to you. Got anything to say to me? Do it within this topic.
Dont worry if i will report you or no, and also thank you but i do know the mail already.
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A guy trolled me on purpose by leaving me in the desert given up, and coming back 3 minutes later. When he jailed me i punched him 3 times and he answered the same way. After that i jumped away from him and sandi blocked the door to protect me from the guy. After that u messaged us to start rping on which i did answer kinda trolly by using '/me rps'. After that i didn't interract with anyone then five minutes later out of nowhere you pmed me.
You're generous with the time frames and missing juicy details.
I wasnt really provoking anyone. The only thing that i assume was taken as provocation was me asking Monte if he would go off soon.
You were provoking others, Monte included.
You clearly banned me for asking you what kind of admin you are and not cos of anything i said after that.
Tip of the iceberg.
Dont worry if i will report you or no, and also thank you but i do know the mail already.
I am by no means worried, you seem disgruntled by the ban and this is what I recommend you to do if you wish to see something come out of it except a useless forum discussions.
And no i dont need to discuss anything else with you. When i tried doing that, you let me know that there will be no disussion and flamed me after so ive kinda had enough talking to you. Got anything to say to me? Do it within this topic.
I have nothing specific to say to you, I bare no ill will against you as a person.
I posted here to apologize for calling you an asshole and a twat, as well as explaining why you were banned (bad attitude, provoking, deathmatching).
Us arguing here will either prolong your ban period or spam the forums, it will not shorten the ban period.
If you honestly wish to discuss the matter with me on a more humane level with a productive outcome, I recommend talking to me on Skype as I feel it would lead to a more constructive conversation.
Other than that you're better off ONLY using the email.
If you however truly feel it'd be more beneficial for you to question the ban here then by all means go ahead.
I've just never seen it ending well before.
I'm not trying to be an asshole.
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I dont think youveread my post, have you? Please, if you got any evidence of me provoking or dming players beside what i.listed above - several hits (then getting hit back) and asking monte if hes going off soon, then please post them. Cos i would really like to know what have i done.
Also please, post your chat logs. I'm really curious about these juicy parts.
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i'm not really sure what happened
[03:51:44] PM to Abe(3): please, go ahead and ban me.
You asked for it, you got it, how can you not be sure what happened?
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How can i not be sure? Cos an admin who is also a member of this community for 7 years started flaming me and banned me without a real reason.
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banned me without a real reason.
Are you sure about that? You must have gone to great lenghts to make Abe starting flaming you, which he shouldn't have done. He apologized for it, and we will talk about it.
However, i'm interested on hearing your side of the story of what you had done to actually make him ban you. I will check the logs and comfirm it.
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Are you sure about that? You must have gone to great lenghts to make Abe starting flaming you, which he shouldn't have done. He apologized for it, and we will talk about it.
However, i'm interested on hearing your side of the story of what you had done to actually make him ban you. I will check the logs and comfirm it.
A guy trolled me on purpose by leaving me in the desert given up, and coming back 3 minutes later. When he jailed me i punched him 3 times and he answered the same way. After that i jumped away from him and sandi blocked the door to protect me from the guy. After that u messaged us to start rping on which i did answer kinda trolly by using '/me rps'. After that i didn't interract with anyone then five minutes later out of nowhere you pmed me.
I wasnt really provoking anyone. The only thing that i assume was taken as provocation was me asking Monte if he would go off soon.
You clearly banned me for asking you what kind of admin you are and not cos of anything i said after that.
And no i dont need to discuss anything else with you. When i tried doing that, you let me know that there will be no disussion and flamed me after so ive kinda had enough talking to you. Got anything to say to me? Do it within this topic.
Dont worry if i will report you or no, and also thank you but i do know the mail already.
Guy called DamienT left me given up in the desert. I asked on public for unsuspection but no1 answered. 3 minutes later he came and actually cuffed me and at last jailed me. After i got jailed i punched guy several times, he punched me back as well. I know i shouldn't have done that, i was frustrated tho and i'm sorry about that. After that Abe spectated Sandi and me and on local chat told us to drop such attitude and start roleplaying or quit server. I answered that with "/me rps". After that my jail punishment was served, i bunnyhopped to a bridge on which i climbed, fell off and died, spawned at Grove Street - spawn location was my home. I went to willowfield ammunation, bought deagle and bat, thats when the PMs started, that was our whole conversation, so go ahead and check logs.
You know, once i told my friend that an admin was a 'debil' which means fool. I got banned for that. This guy told me into my face that i'm a 'fucking asshole' and then as well he disrespected me in public by banning me for being a 'fucking twat'. I got banned for 7 week or something, i am really curious of what punishment he's gonna take. Also, apology for flaming me is accepted.
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Actually i wont lie in my unban request, apology is not accepted. After 7 years here, he should know better. No1 gave me a chance to apologise before i got banned for something less serious than what he said to me.
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Your unban request is not about the admin who banned you. If you do you accept his apology then tough, you do not get another one here. Email SA:MP HQ if you are not satisfied by an admin. Your unban request is (surprisingly) about your unban.
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Your unban request is not about the admin who banned you. If you do you accept his apology then tough, you do not get another one here. Email SA:MP HQ if you are not satisfied by an admin. Your unban request is (surprisingly) about your unban.
What rule exactly forbids me to refuse to accept apology from a player who flamed me? Or is that just a rule when admin flames you? Don't worry if i'll report the admin or no, but this ban is invalid, cos i wasnt the one to break the rulers, but the admin who banned me, himself.
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I am not saying that you are breaking rules by declining his apology - there is no rule regarding apologies. I'm stating that the apology is irrelevant to your ban. Whether you choose to accept his apology or not does not effect your ban.
Logs will be looked into soon.
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I am not saying that you are breaking rules by declining his apology - there is no rule regarding apologies. I'm stating that the apology is irrelevant to your ban. Whether you choose to accept his apology or not does not effect your ban.
Logs will be looked into soon.
Ok, that makes sense now. Thought you said i can't get unbanned unless i accept apology. How long do i have to wait till the logs are checked?
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So this is how it goes? I get banned cos of random mad admin and i have to wait for days and days till i get unbanned even tho i didn't really break any rules? Why didn't you just ask the admin what did i do he considered provoking? The answer is in chat logs, he confirmed it, not even knowing he did it - as you see he said he didn't even mean to punish me but then after our conversation he decided to ban me. So just re-read the chat-log i posted and tell me if i provoked him or not
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So what now? When are you people going to stop ignoring my unban request and do something about this unjustified ban?
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So what now? When are you people going to stop ignoring my unban request and do something about this unjustified ban?
Soon as you stop dictating about what we should do. You don't get to demand we check your unban request when you want us to, Conroy will reply once he's checked the logs he needed too.
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I'm not dictating anything, i'm just asking for an answer, is that too much? I was flamed by one of you - staff members, and then i got banned, atleast i deserve to know why exactly was i banned and when am i going to get unbanned.
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Im growing tired of the attitude shown here, just because an administrator wasn't being polite does not mean that you are innocent.
Your response to him, even with his language did not help the situation.
Conroy has said he is looking into the logs so wait for his verdict.
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I'm not saying that i'm innocent based on his offensive words, but based on what he wrote generally. He said he was not going to punish me yet he punished me just cos he got mad.
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I didn't even do shit and i'm banned for almost a week now, the sad part is that i'd be unbanned by now if i lied i was guilty and apologised.
But nevermind, you may close my unban request and flame me some more, it must be entertaining.
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I checked the logs. You were told to roleplay or log out, but instead you choose to troll by doing stupid /me actions. When you realised Abe was not in a good mood, you acted innocent as if you had no idea what happened.
[03:43:17] MSG -> Abe (8) : If you're not going to roleplay, logg out.
[03:43:20] MSG -> Abe (8) : Period.
[03:43:48] MSG -> Abe (8) : Mainly referring to Jovanca.
[03:43:48] CMD -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : /me too
[03:43:55] CMD -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : /me roleplays
[03:44:06] CMD -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : /me roleplays sex with sandi
[03:44:13] CMD -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : /me sex sex
[03:45:32] CMD -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : /l noo
[03:45:33] CMD -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : /me ded
[03:45:35] MSG -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : fuck
[03:45:39] MSG -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : saw that abe?
[03:45:46] CMD -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : /area 3
[03:46:13] CMD -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : /buyweapon
[03:46:18] CMD -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : /buyweapon
[03:46:22] CMD -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : /buyweapon
[03:46:51] MSG -> [GSF]Jov_Weber (9) : maderfaker
When you are told to do something by an admin - you do it, no questions asked. If you are not happy with their decision, you do it anyway. You had two options, either roleplay or leave the server. Instead, you thought it would be funny to provoke Abe by acting like an idiot - no wonder he lost his cool.
Going back to your initial post:
Haha i'm not really sure what happened but i'll provide you the full chat log of the situation so u judge if the ban is valid or invalid.
You claim that you were not sure what happened, therefore I am going to assume that you find the behaviour in the logs above acceptable. Do you agree?
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As i said above, feel free to close my unban request.
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You people are still witch hunting, trying to find smallest reason to keep me banned, so go ahead and do it. After i was told to drop it i did drop it, but few minutes later admin comes to me again with an immature attitude, i was just about to leave server but no he continued and you all saw the chatlog of that. Also, you're trying to tell me that ppl HAVE to behave rply and in character all the time? Cos as far as i know no1 is forced to play on argonath, so why would i be?
And ok, i'll answer your question, no i dont find that behaviour nice, but i dont see why it wouldn't be acceptable, saw even managers behaving far worse, so here we go again, rules are not the same for everyone.
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Denied until 1st November. Make another unban request after that date if you like.