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Title: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Mr. Goobii on October 30, 2014, 08:25:08 pm
The Swedish government has officially decided to recognize Palestine, with the move announced in a speech by the country's new Foreign Minister Margot Wallström.

Speaking at a press conference, Margot Wallström said:
 
"We are not picking sides. We're choosing the side of the peace process".
 
She added:
 
"The government believes that the international law criteria for the recognition of the State of Palestine has been met. There is a territory, there is a population and there is a government".
 
The UN General Assembly approved the recognition of Palestine as a sovereign state in 2012, but the European Union and most western countries do not refer to Palestine as a separate state.
 
Wallström pre-empted her announcement in a debate article in the Dagens Nyheter newspaper published on Thursday morning.
 
"It's an important step. Some will say that the decision came too early. I'm afraid that it came too late," she wrote, adding that she "hopes that this will show the way for others."
 
"The aim of Sweden's recognition is to help reach the goal of Israel and Palestine co-existing side by side in peace."

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Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas hailed the decision, his spokesman said.
 
"President Abbas welcomes Sweden's decision," Nabil Abu Rudeina told AFP, adding that the Palestinian leader described the move as "brave and historic".
 
"All countries of the world that are still hesitant to recognise our right to an independent Palestinian state based on 1967 borders, with east Jerusalem as its capital, (should) follow Sweden's lead," his spokesman quoted him as saying.

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Abu Rudeina said the decision was a positive step following months of soaring tensions in occupied east Jerusalem, where Palestinians have clashed almost daily with Israeli police and where Israel has recently pushed ahead with plans to build another 3,600 settler homes, drawing international condemnation.
   
"This decision comes as a response to Israeli measures in Jerusalem," he said.
 
Sweden's decision was initially announced by new Social Democrat Prime Minister Stefan Löfven as he revealed his new centre-left cabinet in early October. But has been met with strong criticism from Israel

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On Thursday Israel's top diplomat said the Swedish government's recognition of a Palestinian state was "deplorable" and could undermine efforts to resolve the conflict.
 
"The decision of the Swedish government to recognise a Palestinian state is a deplorable decision which only strengthens extremist elements and Palestinian rejectionism," Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said in a statement.
 
"It is a shame that the Swedish government chose to take this declarative step which causes a lot of harm and offers no advantage," he said.
 
"The Swedish government must understand that relations in the Middle East are a lot more complex than the self-assembly furniture of IKEA and that they have to act with responsibility and sensitivity."

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There has been intense fighting between Israel and Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip in recent months, with some of the deadliest violence in years. But there is currently a ceasefire between the two sides.
 
Seven EU members have already recognized a Palestinian state -- Bulgaria, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Malta, Poland and Romania. Non-EU member Iceland is the only other western European nation to have done so.
 
Palestinian groups in Sweden have welcomed the decision. Earlier this month, Nael Touqan, Chairman of Palestinian Association of Stockholm told The Local:
 
"Sweden has great respect in Europe so we hope this means that other nations will follow its lead," he added. "This is the only way to pressure Israel".
 
But observers said it was too early to tell if the Swedish step would prompt other countries to make similar moves.
 
"It's really hard to say how many countries will actually take the plunge and follow Sweden," said Michael Schulz, an expert on the Middle East and conflict issues at the University of Gothenburg told AFP.
 
"For the EU to recognise Palestine, that would require all member states to agree, so it's unlikely," he said, estimating that Stockholm's decision "shouldn't change much" over the short term.
 
"We must see how Israel will react if they will continue their policy of settlement or if they will instead be more cautious."
 
Sweden's government has said it will increase bilateral aid to the middle east over the next five years.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Lustigkurre on October 30, 2014, 08:26:26 pm
nice
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Mikal on October 30, 2014, 08:37:42 pm
Big mistake Sweden, I hope you enjoy the massive inflow of Palestine migrants now. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: [WS]Jacob on October 30, 2014, 10:08:58 pm
Big mistake Sweden, I hope you enjoy the massive inflow of Palestine migrants now. :rolleyes:
Hardly. I think it's a step towards the peace we should see.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Mikal on October 30, 2014, 10:19:28 pm
Hardly. I think it's a step towards the peace we should see.
Yes, because a now more frustrated Israel is now going to push for peace.. Nope, I'm guessing the now more frustrated and anoyed Israel will head towards making things worse.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Doggie on October 30, 2014, 10:28:51 pm
 FFS MAY THE COUNTRY OF SWEDEN BE BLESSED BY GOD.

SVERIGE, JAG ÄLSKAR DIG OCH JAG HATAR HOLLAND. JAG ÄR SVENSK!

Tr: Sweden, I love you and I hate Holland. I am swedish!
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Petarda on October 30, 2014, 10:29:58 pm
Big mistake Palestine, I hope you enjoy the small inflow of Swedish migrants now. :rolleyes:
aw come on, someone get my joke already
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Mikal on October 30, 2014, 10:38:43 pm
aw come on, someone get my joke already
sir pls don't defraud my posts !!
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Huntsman on November 03, 2014, 06:35:00 pm
Isreal lives on a soil that doesn't belong to them. It belongs to Jordan/Palestine. I salute Sweden.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Doggie on November 03, 2014, 06:36:09 pm
I salute Sweden.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Tomer on November 03, 2014, 07:16:38 pm
Isreal lives on a soil that doesn't belong to them. It belongs to Jordan/Palestine. I salute Sweden.
Sad you say that buddy.. it belongs, even without religious ****.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Bundy on November 03, 2014, 07:44:06 pm
Great move by Sweden, hope the rest of the EU countries will follow their example.

Big mistake Sweden, I hope you enjoy the massive inflow of Palestine migrants now. :rolleyes:
In case you didn't notice, most Palestinians stay in Palestine to protect it. That's pretty much what this war is about, you know. :neutral2:
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Mikal on November 03, 2014, 09:57:07 pm
Great move by Sweden, hope the rest of the EU countries will follow their example.
In case you didn't notice, most Palestinians stay in Palestine to protect it. That's pretty much what this war is about, you know. :neutral2:
Protecting something that doesn't exist..
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Huntsman on November 07, 2014, 08:40:34 pm
Protecting something that doesn't exist..

Funny that Israel didnt exist good fifty years ago. What was in its place? Oh wait, Palestine!
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Mikal on November 07, 2014, 09:39:28 pm
Funny that Israel didnt exist good fifty years ago. What was in its place? Oh wait, Palestine!
A bunch of invalid claims to a piece of land doesn't make it one thing.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Gandalf on November 10, 2014, 02:02:29 pm
Funny that Israel didnt exist good fifty years ago. What was in its place? Oh wait, Palestine!
Show me the flag of Palestine from 100 years ago.
Show me the national currency of Palestine 100 years ago.
Name me the title and name of Palestinian rulers of 100 years ago.
Sow me a map with a cauntry named Palestina 100 years ago.
Guess what? you can not because Palestina never existed as country.
In fact before the creation of Israel there was not a single Palestinian in the world.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Huntsman on November 10, 2014, 02:56:37 pm
Show me the flag of Palestine from 100 years ago.
Show me the national currency of Palestine 100 years ago.
Name me the title and name of Palestinian rulers of 100 years ago.
Sow me a map with a cauntry named Palestina 100 years ago.
Guess what? you can not because Palestina never existed as country.
In fact before the creation of Israel there was not a single Palestinian in the world.

Neither was there an Isrealite. Neither was there Isreal. There was the Ottoman Empire, the rest of the jews residued in Europe and they arrived in Palestine in WWII, escaping Hitler.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Gandalf on November 10, 2014, 03:09:01 pm
Neither was there an Isrealite. Neither was there Isreal. There was the Ottoman Empire, the rest of the jews residued in Europe and they arrived in Palestine in WWII, escaping Hitler.
We almost agree. Except that there were jews living there in abundance.
70% of Israeli jews shares common ancestors with the Palestine Arabs. The others speak Russian.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Huntsman on November 10, 2014, 03:13:59 pm
The others speak Russian.

Spot on, prijatel :D
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Skalleper on November 10, 2014, 03:19:07 pm
Spot on, prijatel :D

pls sir translate ur text or get banned we don't understand international forum sir pls removed banned unban request on forums.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Gandalf on November 10, 2014, 03:22:13 pm
Spot on, prijatel :D

One of the easiest ways to emigrate during Soviet times was obtaining a declaration of being Jewish and moving to Israel.
From there many continued to the USA, others decided the climate was better than Siberia and stayed.
No need to mention that the declaration of being Jewish could be obtained in other ways as by heritage. ;)
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Huntsman on November 10, 2014, 07:36:04 pm
pls sir translate ur text or get banned we don't understand international forum sir pls removed banned unban request on forums.

Prijatelj - buddy in Russian

One of the easiest ways to emigrate during Soviet times was obtaining a declaration of being Jewish and moving to Israel.
From there many continued to the USA, others decided the climate was better than Siberia and stayed.
No need to mention that the declaration of being Jewish could be obtained in other ways as by heritage. ;)

Kinda similarly to how you could get away from the draft to the Red Army - by declaring Polish roots  :rofl:
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Jim_Conroy on November 10, 2014, 08:32:16 pm
Much respect! MAY GOD BLESS SWEDEN AND IT'S PEOPLE.
Title: Re: Palestine recognized as state by Sweden
Post by: Mikal on November 10, 2014, 08:33:11 pm
Show me the flag of Palestine from 100 years ago.
Show me the national currency of Palestine 100 years ago.
Name me the title and name of Palestinian rulers of 100 years ago.
Sow me a map with a cauntry named Palestina 100 years ago.
Guess what? you can not because Palestina never existed as country.
In fact before the creation of Israel there was not a single Palestinian in the world.
Well said.

Therefore, Sweden is just being retarded.

the rest of the jews residued in Europe and they arrived in Palestine in WWII, escaping Hitler.
What a load of rubbish.... Jerusalem in Israel is the most holy place for Jews and has been since before 900 BC, do you really think there wasn't large populations of Jew's in what you call 'Palestine' at their own 'most holy' location? - Palestine never existed, never has and likely never will.
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