Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: [NP]Monte Montague on November 14, 2014, 06:33:45 pm
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Dear Sirs and Madams,
I think it honest to conclude that the community is heading for seriously dark places with the end of MTA:SA.
I think it is really not ok that whilst it was closed / the developers abandoned it? - not a word from anyone has come to the community, not even Gandalf has spoken, and this seems just wrong.
This only paints a picture that something isn't right and I'd like to know what is the real deal with the sudden loss of three developers and so - the closure MTA:SA?
The community is at real loss from the lack of MTA:SA. It may not have been as popular as SA:MP, but then and again where is SA:MP to be used as an example?
We need MTA:SA back, and if we can, the developers who left should come back too!
There's really no need for the closure of something which was a great part of the community.
It just does not seem at all right and it's as if there is something really wrong about the whole situation.
The previous announcement of the MTA:SA 3.0 project thread was just removed from sight over night leaving a good chunk of the community wondering wtf has happened.
There is real grief among parts of the community and because they can not get closure on the subject it is likely to blow up in the faces of us all.
So please can it be known what the actual f**k is up?
With Best Regards,
Monte.
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MTA:SA closed down? :uhm:
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MTA SA has indeed been closed down and is not set to return under any circumstances at this point in time.
There is nothing more to say.
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Yes, we want MTA:SA back online! What is the reason that makes the community worse by closing the one of the best scripted servers we had? I was playing on MTA:SA and playing in our server is used to make me enjoyed even if the player base is not high enough. Also our developers were doing very well to improve the server. We had plans, suggestions, new updates... And all of them are made for nothing?
No. We hope the server will be back online! I agree with you there Monte!
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MTA SA has indeed been closed down and is not set to return under any circumstances at this point in time.
Why? The source code of the project is property of Argonath. We actually own that code. Some devs should be able to re-open the server in less than an hour.
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Why? The source code of the project is property of Argonath. We actually own that code. Some devs should be able to re-open the server in less than an hour.
Just thought I'd post some legal considerations.
I'm sure if you did take it to a real world court / fill a copyright infringement case, like with the Bukkit fiasco, the developers would win an injunction (even if it wasn't an open source project).
The developers would have full rights to do that.
In UK law, if you give something away you can still take it back if there was no money offered to the devs. It's their work not Argonaths and it would be just wrong to use their work without their wish or without them behind it.
It'd be an insult to say the least if what you suggested was done and no one wants that.
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Gandalf is in possession of the MTA:SA scripts however it was his call to close down that division.
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Gandalf is in possession of the MTA:SA scripts however it was his call to close down that division.
Just because he felt like it ? if it's not much can you tell us why please
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I heard that Gandalf took it down because it was violating the vision of ArgonathRPG.
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I heard that Gandalf took it down because it was violating the vision of ArgonathRPG.
Haha, where have you heard that man?
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Haha, where have you heard that man?
from TS, dunno who said it.
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from TS, dunno who said it.
Too weird, leaders of MTA:SA (Patton and Mario) were the founders of Argonath Wiki which includes "Argonath Vision", at the same time...
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Too weird, leaders of MTA:SA (Patton and Mario) were the founders of Argonath Wiki which includes "Argonath Vision", at the same time...
Oh ok, but I think the vision existed before the wiki though. I've seen it on the forums written by Gandalf/Aragorn/Legolas many years ago..
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Too weird, leaders of MTA:SA (Patton and Mario) were the founders of Argonath Wiki which includes "Argonath Vision", at the same time...
Uh being incharge of a wiki with the vision does not mean anything in regards to violating a vision. They may be hypocrites if they are but that's a feeble excuse.
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Just because he felt like it ? if it's not much can you tell us why please
Devin is a SA:MP Divsion Leader. Ask Gandalf instead.
OT: This is just wrong, we definately need an explanation for this.
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Oh ok, but I think the vision existed before the wiki though. I've seen it on the forums written by Gandalf/Aragorn/Legolas many years ago..
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=38482.0
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I don't think anybody plays MTA SA anyway.. :rolleyes:
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Argonath Vision is entirely written by Mario_Rinna on the wiki. Although, they have updated the vision a few times, why wouldn't they have any knowledge about the vision?
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If this is an issue of the Vision being breached then that would have warranted SA:MP closure ages ago.
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Gandalf is in possession of the MTA:SA scripts however it was his call to close down that division.
Roger, that clears it up for me, at least.
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MTA:SA was active, was perfect in the ways of scripting. Players took part in the shaping of San Fierro. There was freedom and everyone was free. Where the hell is the breach in the vision? Maybe if the main administration didn't remove MTA:SA administration's rights on the forums and didn't send them off to MTA forums there could have been communication and a way to avoid all this nonsense. The only possible thing that made a differance between MTA:SA and the other servers was probably the Managers and Leaders of the project. They listened to suggestions and let anyone voice his opinion. In my personal view this whole thing is an act of censorship and shows that a different opinion on things is sadly viewed as a Plague by the Argonath RPG Community.
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The Argonath vision was not written by Mario or Patton, it was created by Gandalf himself.
And as for people saying MTA:SA was shut down because of them supposedly "violating" the Argonath vision, that is not true either.
I will not go into detail but I will say this;
The MTA:SA HQ resigned from their positions (I will not specify why) and with that the division was closed down.
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Yes, Gandalf has created the Argonath vision and Mario is the person who had implemented the information about vision through the wiki. They have updated the vision multiple times and they do know the vision I suppose. Can you tell us how did they "violate" the vision as you have enough information with this issue (it seems) to enlighten us?
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Yes, Gandalf has created the Argonath vision and Mario is the person who had implemented the information about vision through the wiki. They have updated the vision multiple times and they do know the vision I suppose. Can you tell us how did they "violate" the vision as you have enough information with this issue (it seems) to enlighten us?
It wasn't a vision violation.
Now stop bringing it up.
It's obvious there was some sort of a political struggle or argument of some kind.
Pretty pissed at the whole situation. :neutral2:
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Yes, Gandalf has created the Argonath vision and Mario is the person who had implemented the information about vision through the wiki. They have updated the vision multiple times and they do know the vision I suppose. Can you tell us how did they "violate" the vision as you have enough information with this issue (it seems) to enlighten us?
And as for people saying MTA:SA was shut down because of them supposedly "violating" the Argonath vision, that is not true either.
Please..
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Answers given. The fate of MTA:SA shall rest in the hands of Ronnel.
Until then, this repetitive topic is going nowhere but circles. So gonna slap a wee lock on it.