Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Pandalink on December 15, 2007, 06:49:24 pm
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I am really wondering why the ARPD are encouraged in the use of Illegal Weapons.
A Fully Automatic Tec9 is an Illegally altered weapon, made from a Semi-Automatic Handgun.
Why do the Police use an Illegally Altered Weapon? :neutral:
If they must have an Automatic Weapon, then give them an M4. :)
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Yeah, I don't understand the point of having tec-9's on police either.
I mean, in my opinion desert eagle & shotgun are the only real cop weapons. :neutral:
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Tec9 was implemented to give cops the power to better stop runners. But ARPD has already requested to remove it, as they feel drive-by wepons are not needed.
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Tec9 was implemented to give cops the power to better stop runners. But ARPD has already requested to remove it, as they feel drive-by wepons are not needed.
Ok, thanks. :)
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No actually i think it is very useful, particularly in chases, mainly by taking a suspects tires down which of course the police do in single player in GTA san andreas.
A Fully Automatic Tec9 is an Illegally altered weapon, made from a Semi-Automatic Handgun.
Why do the Police use an Illegally Altered Weapon? :neutral:
Has it been declared illegal in Argonath? no. Also if you are bringing facts out and want to go by legal-ness then you should know that even know a tec-9 may be a illegally altered weapon you are way off course... because it is not in fact a tec-9 that ARPD uses it is a Micro SMG. Two different weapons which may of course be similar but important in this case because one is 'legal' and one isn't.
quoted from http://www.gtasanandreas.net/weapons/
(http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/fb78dad4d8.gif) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/) Micro SMG - The HUD icon looks like an Ingram MAC-11, but the in game model looks like a Micro Uzi. Whatever it is, this little thing packs a fiery punch. Overall, it works just the same as the Tec-9 (even sharing the same "machine pistol" stat), but somehow seems to fire a bit faster and more erratically. When using either these or the Tec's at Hitman level, be sure to bring plenty of ammo to keep up with the insane rate of fire.
(http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a7871b5bf3.gif) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/) Tec-9 - A longtime favorite of gang members on the streets of Los Santos, the Tec-9 is a relatively cheap firearm made with low-grade stamped metal. One of the more interesting new features is that the player can dual wield Tec-9s, evening up long odds in the middle of a gang fight, increasing your respect and power in the ‘hood. Once you’ve upgraded CJ’s weapon skill to the point where he can hold two weapons (Hitman skill level), all you need to do is find another weapon and he will automatically hold 2. All ammo between the guns is now shared, and reloading happens automatically. Rate of fire is effectively doubled, perfect for cases where you really want to kill someoneâ€â€Âfast. *
See the difference?
so sorry to do this but
I am really wondering why the ARPD are encouraged in the use of Illegal Weapons.
Wrong
A Fully Automatic Tec9 is an Illegally altered weapon, made from a Semi-Automatic Handgun.
Wrong
Why do the Police use an Illegally Altered Weapon? :neutral:
They dont so.. Wrong
If they must have an Automatic Weapon, then give them an M4. :)
I would like to see that sarcasm or not but unfortunately there will always be complainers like you to complain about it.
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Then we will request the Mp5
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Then we will request the Mp5
XD Go Luca lol, I dont know whats wrong with ARPD carrying Tec9, I use Tec9 to stop criminals with bike.
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Then we will request the Mp5
It does seem more like a Police-ish weapon.
But even FBI in single player use the Micro SMG.
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I was always told by everybody that it was a Tec9, so I assumed they were right.
If its a Micro SMG, then no, it isn't Illegal.
However, if Gandalf says it was a Tec9, what am I to believe?
I wasn't being Sarcastic about the M4, by the way. I think the MP5 could be better than that though, if they must have a Full-Auto. Its true that the FBI in SinglePlayer use Uzis, but its also true that they never run and fire at the same time.
Besides, any self-respecting Cop can plug two Deagle shots into a circling Tec9/Uzi/OtherCriminalWeapon shooter and come out alive. The Desert Eagle is the most deadly weapon in GTA :D .But if you want an Auto, MP5 is best.
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Fucks Sake you guys...
RON Said it himself "Drivebying as Driver is not allowed"!
then i asked, "what about ARPD, are they allowed?"
he says
"is ARPD better than others?"
So stop with the drivibying as driver.
-EMRU ~ Hayden
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I would like to see the uzi removed and added in its place, the SMG. It serves better purpose, and is more suited for the ARPD. The uzi is not standard police issue, so it has its flaws. The lighter, compact, acceptable SMG could take its place.
Lionz
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On other hand....
Why in the hell do cops have Deagles?
Jesus if whole LA had Deagles, you know how much that would cost a year?
why not pistols? :D
EMRU ~ Hayden
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That's just like saying "Why can a simple civilian just walk into a runway and steal the biggest plane there"
Don't take tihs game to seriously.... or else we'll end up like Britain with a Gordon Brown (Sauron) telling us to pay taxes :roll:
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why not pistols? :D
Because deagle is most fitting weapon for cops. Atleast in my opinion 2 pistols or silenced pistol won't fit well for a police officer.
Also, deagle is a powerful weapon, cops wouldn't have a chance on a fight if they only had pistols. :trust:
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Then we will request the Mp5
That what the firearms unit in the UK frequently use...
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well take it from an ARPD officer it is a micro SMG, I wouldnt care if it gets replaced with a MP5/SMG though.
That what the firearms unit in the UK frequently use...
true, they use them where i live too.
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In my opinion normal patrolling officers with MP5 is damn stupid idea.
If we're going to get a SWAT unit, maybe they should have MP5, M4 and other weapons like that, but a patrol police with MP5?
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Then the normal police would be overpowered towards the gangs in SA.
Then they have to spend alot of cash for weapon to compete with cops.
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It's true, as has been described very well by one person, if the ARPD have too much power (as now) then they are not the Police Force. They are just a Police Gang :).
It is my opinion that Deagles can beat any other Argonath Weapon, so maybe thats where it should be left? Maybe more Deagle ammo could be provided for ARPD, and also around 50 Shotgun Bullets (like with the 0.2.1 DPD Skins). That way, ARPD are better equipped than the Free Cops, but also are not overpowered.
A Skilled Cop should kill 2 or less Tec9-Armed Gangmembers with a Deagle if he has full health. If they have M4s or AKs, then 3-4 Criminals should be possible. With Tec9s / Uzis, then Cops just go around shooting everything due to the inaccuracy (civilians, cars, windows, etc.). The chance of a (running away) bystander being hit by a Deagle is exceptionally remote, and only if the Criminal uses them as cover.
Normal Patrol Free Cops should have a Deagle. ARPD should have a Deagle and Shotgun (Not a Combat one). SWAT should have SMG. :)
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Thats damn lame panda.
Ok. all people not in ARPD that wanna be a cop for a bit, have to use a Deagle, but all in ARPD ( cadet or not )
Get to have a Deagle, MP5, Shotgun and M4?
What the fuck? thats like the a Minigunner vs. Pistols...
And again, i think ARPD has lost its touch as they are taking 'new clan' tactics as taking as many members as they can.
i saw some people apply, and in 20 mins they get accepted and get full ARPD immediatly.
Do any of you see one problem with that?
EMRU ~ Hayden
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Rob we are saying they need to have Only Deagle and Shotgun.
Definitly NOT Tec9 or SMG or M4.
We want them removed....
Not that they get them...
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I was saying that as opposed to a Tec9/Uzi, an MP5 or M4 was better.
I wasn't saying that should happen. ARPD should have Deagles and Shotguns, not automatic weapons (unless you are SWAT).
Shotguns are pretty bad, anyway. But some prefer them.
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No i think automatic weapons are handy, shooting tires down etc. Also remember that only ARPD officers or above had Micro smg's
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No i think automatic weapons are handy, shooting tires down etc. Also remember that only ARPD officers or above had Micro smg's
I think that was the problem, Niall :roll:
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How is that the problem? it is used in single player to tackle down criminals too..
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I meant the second part of what you said ;)
Yea, if they must have an Auto it should be an MP5. Otherwise, stick with the good old Deagle/Shotgun Combo. As I have said before.. I always use a Deagle, it just owns everything else. :D
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well what is problem with ARPD officer having it
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It looks unrealistic. Patrol cops aren't supposed to carry weapons around like that around.
It's too much advantage agaisnt criminals. Criminals won't stand a chance against cops with shotgun, deagle and SMG.
I bet there are more if you start to think about it. :)
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Like I said before, Uzi is probably used to bring down suspects tire and suspects with bikes.
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True.. but how dumb is this situation:
You're wanted, almost in SF ready to confess.. Then... an ARPD car pulls up behind you, pulls out a fucking tec9 machine pistol that they stole from
some gang member in Ganton, unloads into your car without asking surrender or giving you any chance to run, and blows it up.. You get out just
before, and get hit in the back immediately by a flurry of bullets, killing you almost instantly, then you turn around and get blasted again by the cops..
Result :
Pissed off Regular
Indirect DMing without following Procedures
Loss of Money
The Target Liking the server less
Problem : Nobody has even a CHANCE of escaping, making this ( by definition ) Powergaming, or DMing
Answer : Give them a deagle and a shotgun, if they deem necessary, they'll buy themselves their own auto guns. In Real life only SWAT uses
automatics. Make a swat unit, and give them the automatics, ( If necessary ). Cops don't need free automatic weapons that can kill everyone, it only promotes
more abuse and violence.. Especially if you were sused incorrectly, or abused. Since nobody can unsu you, the result is complete annihilation.
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You're wanted, almost in SF ready to confess..
/CONFESS was made for mistakes.
-xcasio
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/CONFESS was made for mistakes.
-xcasio
So, abused players have to go all the way to SF and try to survive till there. At cathedral when they go in and cops follow, they get punished by admins for doing /confess while wanted... Not cool in my opinion. :neutral:
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Doesn't the word "confess" mean "Yes, I did this and I'm Confessing that I did." not "There was a mistake! I did nothing!"
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True.. but how dumb is this situation:
You're wanted, almost in SF ready to confess.. Then... an ARPD car pulls up behind you, pulls out a fucking tec9 machine pistol that they stole from
some gang member in Ganton, unloads into your car without asking surrender or giving you any chance to run, and blows it up.. You get out just
before, and get hit in the back immediately by a flurry of bullets, killing you almost instantly, then you turn around and get blasted again by the cops..
Result :
Pissed off Regular
Indirect DMing without following Procedures
Loss of Money
The Target Liking the server less
Problem : Nobody has even a CHANCE of escaping, making this ( by definition ) Powergaming, or DMing
Answer : Give them a deagle and a shotgun, if they deem necessary, they'll buy themselves their own auto guns. In Real life only SWAT uses
automatics. Make a swat unit, and give them the automatics, ( If necessary ). Cops don't need free automatic weapons that can kill everyone, it only promotes
more abuse and violence.. Especially if you were sused incorrectly, or abused. Since nobody can unsu you, the result is complete annihilation.
If that happens then you should use /report id reason.
And sort out when you want to make a new paragraph, I found that hard to read.
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Or complains should go to [email protected]
btw Maxy, do you want to say, that all the cops are acting like you described? :conf:
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True.. but how dumb is this situation:
You're wanted, almost in SF ready to confess.. Then... an ARPD car pulls up behind you, pulls out a fucking tec9machine pistol that they stole from
some gang member in Ganton, unloads into your car without asking surrender or giving you any chance to run, and blows it up.. You get out just
before, and get hit in the back immediately by a flurry of bullets, killing you almost instantly, then you turn around and get blasted again by the cops..
Result :
Pissed off Regular
Indirect DMing without following Procedures
Loss of Money
The Target Liking the server less
Problem : Nobody has even a CHANCE of escaping, making this ( by definition ) Powergaming, or DMing
Answer : Give them a deagle and a shotgun, if they deem necessary, they'll buy themselves their own auto guns. In Real life only SWAT uses
automatics. Make a swat unit, and give them the automatics, ( If necessary ). Cops don't need free automatic weapons that can kill everyone, it only promotes
more abuse and violence.. Especially if you were sused incorrectly, or abused. Since nobody can unsu you, the result is complete annihilation.
Cops only have micro smg if they get there ARPD rights, and if they are abusing you should report them and take screen shots.
But as you said you were running to the church to confess while being chased it is against the rules to confess when being chased you have to lose the cops before /confess,
Quoted from Elrond
Quote from: The Rules
Being wanted and CHASED you cannot just run into cathedral for confess. You have to surrender in this situation.
Any player who is being pursued by the police and uses /confess is breaking the rules and should be dealt with accordingly.
Elrond
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Usually I only go straight to the Church if I was abused. If I wasn't abused, then I intended (or accepted the risk of) getting wanted and therefore have a little fun with the Police. If I lose them, then I might go to the Church just because they gave up :)