We know about this topic it posted before.Hmmm, I couldn't find it in the board. Sorry if I missed it!
Hmmm, I couldn't find it in the board. Sorry if I missed it!
Its a lie!
Violent footage removed.
The man who is killing in the name of GOD (Allah) is not called muslim....Tell that to those who preach violence. Others will not believe you until you cast them out.
Terrorism is not accepted in islam..
Tell that to those who preach violence. Others will not believe you until you cast them out.
Tell that to those who preach violence. Others will not believe you until you cast them out.True..
just wanted to say that the terrorists who did that scene at paris, are not muslims, they just want to get the name "islam" to the wrong way.That is exactly the problem .
That is exactly the problem .
Islam teaches that Muslims must be one, so those who do anything that is not approved 'can not be Muslims'.
What you must learn to accept it that they WERE Muslims, and that unless you will start making clear tothose wh preach violence that the majority of Muslims do not accept this, it will only get worse.
These people prayed daily to Allah, visited the Mosque and held themselves to all laws of Islam. Until this week, nobody would deny them to be Muslim.
Tell : this were Muslims who were misguided.
Tell : this were Muslims who misunderstood what Islam should be.
But do NOT tell : this were not Muslims.
We are teached to love our religion ,and to respect other religions....
We are teached to love our religion ,and to respect other religions....That is clear to you, and I am happy you see it that way.
GOD don't wants people who make terrorism... i think it's so clear...
Go tell this to the muslim guy that shot the muslim cop in the sidewalk...twice...Hating those who are of good will is not the solution. Embrace them and teach them that they need to cast out the evil ones among them, and that their duty of Jihad is firtly to cast evil out of Islam.
Go tell this to the muslim guy that shot the muslim cop in the sidewalk...twice...
Secondly , Muslims are respected people , very nice people too , dont believe everything you see , muslim world is a very nice one.I know how they are because I have allot of muslim friends and I totally respect them all.
Thirdly , their are people that do not follow their religion or laws , I mean the cop you are talking about , do you think you would post what you said if the the killer is not a muslim ?I said the muslim thing because Demir was saying they are not muslim when all the news were saying that the people who made the kills in Paris were Muslims. Ye I know the religion doesn't allow you to do those kind of things but even that they were muslims they were part of a organization which trained those guys to be like that. To kill people on sight like that did, no matter what religion the victims are.
No one can deny the fact that they were Muslims..Hady, I understand your position. The problem is that the Muslim world needs to voice this opinion and act on it.
However, Why should the whole world blame the rest of Muslims..
In Islam, Terrorism is NOT allowed at-all.
It's even written in Quran.
Nevertheless, Some 'group' thinks that it's allowed to attack as long as couple people are showing some 'HATE' towards Islam.
they might do the same thing with us too.. Calling us FAKE Muslims and shit.
Actually, This already happened (ISIS)
We don't consider them as Muslims.. The whole world should know that.
We aren't even allowed to talk with them.
Ye I know the religion doesn't allow you to do those kind of things but even that they were muslims they were part of a organization which trained those guys to be like that. To kill people on sight like that did, no matter what religion the victims are.
Read my reply to Demir.
Those are not Muslims , thats not what islam requests muslims
Go tell this to the muslim guy that shot the muslim cop in the sidewalk...twice...
Read my reply to Demir.What I mean , they are muslims but in my religion , islam , we cant call them real muslims .
It is important that you stop lying to yourself and others about this.
as gandalf said, some people dont understand the right way of Islam...What u said is right
I really hate those people who ruin how people think of my religion , islamI can only agree with you. But denying who they are will only make other people hate it more.
I can only agree with you. But denying who they are will only make other people hate it more.You are right
If you want respect for your religion, accept there are peope who are misguided by false teachers.
Do not make their mistake of supporting violence or denying how some brothers think.
But denying who they are will only make other people hate it more.This. This is one of the most accurate post i've seen. I literally couldn't have said it better.
If you want respect for your religion, accept there are peope who are misguided by false teachers.
Do not make their mistake of supporting violence or denying how some brothers think.
Still can't be called full Muslim though...We cant deny the fact the they were muslims. The prayed to the same god(Allah).
We cant deny the fact the they were muslims. The prayed to the same god(Allah).So every Muslim is being judged as a terrorist in your book?
This !!
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What happened in France yesterday is a heinous crime and I take a strong and unequivocal stand against these criminals who call themselves "Muslims". They are nothing but criminals - sick individuals with sick minds!
Of course we love Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and we aren't happy when he is mocked, but our love for him should reflect his beautiful character! Anyone committing acts of violence and hate is betraying the very Prophet they claim to stand for!
STOP KILLING IN ALLAH'S NAME!!!!
STOP KILLING IN PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S NAME!!!!
STOP KILLING IN OUR NAME!!!!
So every Muslim is being judged as a terrorist in your book?Can you please read what i said...? I cant help if you twist my words.
Kudos to you
If they had just stopped making the satire political cartoons about Prophet Muhammad, this whole thing would not have happened in the first place.A satirical cartoon, an example of someone exercising their right to freedom of expression, is no reason to murder someone. I do not agree with everything that I see but if I were to use violence to silence the person I oppose then I do not deserve to live in a free society.
A satirical cartoon, an example of someone exercising their right to freedom of expression, is no reason to murder someone. I do not agree with everything that I see but if I were to use violence to silence the person I oppose then I do not deserve to live in a free society.Agreed...
A satirical cartoon, an example of someone exercising their right to freedom of expression, is no reason to murder someone. I do not agree with everything that I see but if I were to use violence to silence the person I oppose then I do not deserve to live in a free society.
I agree with you its freedom of expression,But it doesn't give you the rights to make a movie and create a lot of pictures in a journal to insult the islam and to show the world blablabla, I'm not telling you it's good they got killed but at last they deserve to get jailed for insulting a Messenger, In fact when they did the movie more then year ago a lot of people start laughing to the islam and the government didn't do a shit about it because they care about their religion only, Now all the world think islam who did this and they start kicking the muslims out from their countries to avoid the terrorist in the future and this is not fair at all because islam wasn't his fault, I'm sure there is something worse in the future after this fight.If I wish to make a journal insulting Islam, because I live in a free society I should be able to do so. Likewise I can make a journal insulting any other religion if I wish to do so. And this is the key point about Charlie Hedbo, they did not just produce satirical comics about Islam but about Christianity too, so you can dismiss any thoughts they were specifically targeting Muslims.
I agree with you its freedom of expression,But it doesn't give you the rights to make a movie and create a lot of pictures in a journal to insult the islam and to show the world blablabla, I'm not telling you it's good they got killed but at last they deserve to get jailed for insulting a Messenger, In fact when they did the movie more then year ago a lot of people start laughing to the islam and the government didn't do a shit about it because they care about their religion only, Now all the world think islam who did this and they start kicking the muslims out from their countries to avoid the terrorist in the future and this is not fair at all because islam wasn't his fault, I'm sure there is something worse in the future after this fight.We have discussed freedom of expression here many times. You are right that freedom of expression does not mean there can not be consequenses as a result of using it. This however is for the laws of the countries to judge.
I think I read somewhere about in France (Don't remember when) drew something about Jews / Israel and got fined for it. Where was his so called freedom?
I think I read somewhere about in France (Don't remember when) drew something about Jews / Israel and got fined for it. Where was his so called freedom?He probably got sued by the Jewish community in france and the court decided he somehow broke the laws and had to pay (I never heard about it this is just a guess)
I think I read somewhere about in France (Don't remember when) drew something about Jews / Israel and got fined for it. Where was his so called freedom?Having to bear the consequences of legal punishment does not limit freedom of expression.
Am I the only one who finds it fishy how in December, Charlie Hebdo had financial trouble and couldn't pay their salaries to the workers. Yet after the shooting they won over 10 million pure profit(not counting the salaries they paid).You are.
Am I the only one who finds it fishy how in December, Charlie Hebdo had financial trouble and couldn't pay their salaries to the workers. Yet after the shooting they won over 10 million pure profit(not counting the salaries they paid).Use it as a model for yourself. If you need more money, get someone to kill you. Oh wait...
Am I the only one who finds it fishy how in December, Charlie Hebdo had financial trouble and couldn't pay their salaries to the workers. Yet after the shooting they won over 10 million pure profit(not counting the salaries they paid).Not only you, lol.