Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Fatboy_Rob on December 17, 2007, 10:52:10 pm

Title: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on December 17, 2007, 10:52:10 pm
Ok, as me & my team have been looking at all the hospitals, trying to find stuff, we noticed one thing, and i noticed it immediatly...

Why is it possible for any old bum off the street, eligable to purchase any Hospital and jack the price up to any price they want for entrance fee?

I know damn well, that no citizens own a hospital, they are Government property, therefor should be owned b the government and not some old hag off the street.


And if they can own one, why on earth would some heartless person, make medic's & Injured people and visitors pay an entrance fee, to a hospital?


EMRU ~ Hayden
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Gimli on December 17, 2007, 10:52:59 pm
There are private clinics in real life, but not all of them.


-xcasio
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on December 17, 2007, 10:57:04 pm
Where do you see a privately owned clinic in the world that is certified to do that and passed all the test to become a clinic? :lol:


and Xcasio, in SA i see no 'clinics'.
Clinics are not 7 story buildings....
There small, and do not have surgery rooms...


EMRU ~ Hayden
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Kojak on December 18, 2007, 10:20:18 am
There are plenty of private hospitals, I mean full hospitals who can dispense medicines, perform operations and some that even have their own emergency teams with ambulances. They may not be owned by one person, but they're owned by shareholders.

Elrond

Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Aragorn on December 18, 2007, 11:06:26 am
We wanted to give the SA:MP business men more different features to earn money and more roleplaying fun...
Hospitals were created to crack a cocaine in it (coming script)...
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on December 18, 2007, 05:55:19 pm
cool idea ron, but, if your meaning for somthng illegal, not goin' down in my hospitals while my team is on duty :)


EMRU ~ Hayden
Posted on: December 18, 2007, 05:38:52 PM

Wait wait wait, hold up.

You just said you will make a script that can distribute Cocain?

thats a huge what the fuck....
If you wanna have a crack house to do that, go make a crack house or somthing, leave it out of hospitals....


EMRU ~ Hayden
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: VMNT on December 18, 2007, 06:21:22 pm
We wanted to give the SA:MP business men more different features to earn money and more roleplaying fun...
Hospitals were created to crack a cocaine in it (coming script)...


I don't really understand what you mean by the cocaine bit. :trust:
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Jnn on December 18, 2007, 08:32:38 pm
I find it weird that in MTA:VC such buildings are owned by goverment and in SA:MP they aren't.

Oh well, lets hope that people don't put 1000 Argonath dollars / entering as a price.
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on December 18, 2007, 08:37:32 pm
All Saints Hospital is $30 to enter.
30 x 200 = $6000 ~ which is bullshit cause its a hospital!


Hayden
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: chris. on December 18, 2007, 09:32:54 pm
Where do you see a privately owned clinic in the world that is certified to do that and passed all the test to become a clinic? :lol:


and Xcasio, in SA i see no 'clinics'.
Clinics are not 7 story buildings....
There small, and do not have surgery rooms...


EMRU ~ Hayden

In the United States where we don't have the government pay for Health care, there are MANY privately Owned Hospitals. but yes I think that LS should be Public. 
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: MrEcks on December 18, 2007, 09:40:13 pm
We wanted to give the SA:MP business men more different features to earn money and more roleplaying fun...
Hospitals were created to crack a cocaine in it (coming script)...

So, instead of have hospitals for places to heal and nurse the sick and injuried... you just want to use them for drugs?

And also, making and selling drugs isn't really a new and different thing for SA:MP... there are a shit load of drugdealers and other drug related business on SA.
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Dave on December 19, 2007, 12:15:12 am
In RL, do you pay to enter a hospital? No


Simple, all enterance fees shoud be 0, and anyone that says they pay to walk through the doors of a hospital What f***ing hospital do you go to....
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Aragorn on December 19, 2007, 02:15:18 am
You also do not have to pay to enter clothes shops or burger shop... On server in game you have to... Ask yourself why?
About drugs and hospitals - yes the original idea as - weed fields and hospitals where can get drugs... Then came idea with the ship of heroin... I do not see any reason to accuse developers in shitty ideas...

Thanks...
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on December 19, 2007, 02:36:00 am
i can understand the clothes shop entrance fee, and the weed field, but, being able to get an ILLEGAL Drug from a Government Hospital?

And then, a hospital, depending on whats going on that day, will have many visitors, not thinking that a hospital will have a 200 dollar entrance fee, they go home, wondering why the fuck 7k is gone...

why? cause people set a huge entrance fee on a HOSPITAL.....

Clothes shops - private business's - can charge money if they want.
Hospitals - Government/state property - shouldent be able to add money.
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Jnn on December 19, 2007, 02:44:34 am
Yeah, illegal drugs from a hospital is kind of weird.

It could be some kind of painkillers that can make your head to spin if you use too much - dunno what they're actually called in english, but some medicines, if you use wrongly, they are same as drugs. :trust:
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on December 19, 2007, 02:51:48 am
Yea Jnn, that idea is 400 times better.

you go in /rob pharmacy and you get a script that does
Frank_Tenpenny attempts to rob the hospital pharmacy When you do that, it send a Message over the Dispatch to all cops( a silent alarm )

And then you have a timer, maybe 30 seconds to wait, and you get messages such as
The Pharmacists is handing over the Oxycotin
The Pharmacists hands over the painkillers

Then you can leave, but the 30 seconds should be enough for cops to get there, as you cannot walk into a hospital, get drugs and prance away in 3 seconds.

id rather have this, than '/get cocain from hospital'
Its alot better.
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: chris. on December 19, 2007, 03:16:12 am
Well I can imagine people using /rob at pharmacist's and Hospitals. Like real life crazy folks do for what is a VERY strong pain killer known as "Bars".

and being that this is a game, they would probably have Marijuana and maybe a new drug, like Anti-Depressants. ( lol remember the Drug thingy in Vice city? where everything is slow motion.. yeah stuff like that )   
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Aragorn on December 19, 2007, 11:01:50 am
i can understand the clothes shop entrance fee, and the weed field, but, being able to get an ILLEGAL Drug from a Government Hospital?

Then you should know that All hospitals in the world have drugs... And all of them are tried to be robbed here and there... About painkillers - do not see a problem how to call the drugs from hospital...

Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Kojak on December 19, 2007, 12:23:47 pm
I would suggest it works differently than this. Make hospitals a place where you go to get healed instead of getting high.

Make recreational drugs available in other places as usual; give some benefit to consuming those drugs to make people want to take them. But also create side effects like addiction, which can have a negative effect. Then the person suffering from the side effect goes to the hospitals to get cured.

Elrond

Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Aragorn on December 19, 2007, 03:39:43 pm
The healing was supposed in hospitals... But as i am watching playing on server - players do not visit any shops to heal themselves... So that is just wasting of time...
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: nitox on December 19, 2007, 04:58:27 pm
maybe this is a stupid idea, but if the visitors at hospitals and stuff want to be improved, maybe you could desync sprunk machines.
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on December 19, 2007, 05:22:31 pm
Yes Ron, i think i see where you are going with this, i can understand the attempted robbing of the pharmacy, cause, IRL its possible, but impossible to get away xD
I just dont like the fact that were able to get Cocain from it :S

Painkillers, all that - fine, cause its real
And i agree with the healing inside Hospital, for medic's & people that are dying, it could be useful.

Yea i see that too, almost none go inside to get healed
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Dave on December 19, 2007, 06:23:34 pm
You also do not have to pay to enter clothes shops or burger shop... On server in game you have to... Ask yourself why?
About drugs and hospitals - yes the original idea as - weed fields and hospitals where can get drugs... Then came idea with the ship of heroin... I do not see any reason to accuse developers in shitty ideas...

Thanks...
I agree with the food shops etc, but the hospital still doesn't feel right paying to get in. It would be great if i was a SET fee and no-one could change it by /bizfee
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Aragorn on December 19, 2007, 07:17:50 pm
And what is the difference to pay entrance fee in game in burger shot and pay the same in hospital?
Posted on: December 19, 2007, 07:14:38 PM
Yes Ron, i think i see where you are going with this, i can understand the attempted robbing of the pharmacy, cause, IRL its possible, but impossible to get away xD
I just dont like the fact that were able to get Cocain from it :S

Painkillers, all that - fine, cause its real
And i agree with the healing inside Hospital, for medic's & people that are dying, it could be useful.

Yea i see that too, almost none go inside to get healed

Sigh...

Cocaine is in all central hospitals and clinics, as from this preparatory medicine makes painkillers and stopping the temp cancer growing... Novocaine for example is based on cocaine... The same goes to all painkillers...
Well-known  "Solpadein" has a percents of cocaine to stop pain...

In apotheiks you can get painkiller... In hospitals they have a cocaine in special closed freezers...

trust my words, son...
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: cDa on December 19, 2007, 07:32:58 pm
Cocaine is in all central hospitals and clinics, as from this preparatory medicine makes painkillers and stopping the temp cancer growing... Novocaine for example is based on cocaine... The same goes to all painkillers...
Well-known  "Solpadein" has a percents of cocaine to stop pain...


Yes just lil off topic to add, i work part time in hospital, LOTs of medicamens are made from Drugs, even the nose spray, u think its harmless? No its made from 0.5% of Efedrine, Efedrine is artificial Adrenalin, basicly a drug. Every Hospital has a "part" whitch is locked by 2 or 3 locks, where they keep these drugs, trust me i saw them, helped to carry some.
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: Gandalf on December 19, 2007, 10:05:17 pm
Guys be sure that we know how hospitals work IRL.
And Hayden do not tell that in the US this is different. I remember a story from someone entering a Florida hospital with a sick child during holiday. Instead of some doctors, the first she met was a receptionist with the question 'Will you pay cash or credit card ?'.

Dutch hospitals are private organizations. In Russia you have state hospitals, but also private ones that do not accept you unless you pay for entrance.

About medicin, hospitals are visited by junkies who try to get at the drugs almost daily. Most fail due to the high security.
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: LillMumin on December 20, 2007, 04:19:31 pm
All Saints Hospital is $30 to enter.
30 x 200 = $6000 ~ which is bullshit cause its a hospital!


Hayden


I dont get why u are whining about $30 ?? just look at some cloth shop.. 500.. do u pay money irl for entering a Clothshop? dont think so, if u are.. Then ur stupid :rofl:
Title: Re: Why dosent the government own these?
Post by: [R]yan on December 20, 2007, 06:20:11 pm
I agree. I don't really like the Enterance fee's that much, especially when the player can set it to about 2000. At least there should be a limit. like 400 or something. I can't afford it anymore.. Since I get robbed daily. Some. not all cops, need to get tuffer to stop the crime rate.
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