Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Hardware/Software support => Resolved issues => Topic started by: Janar on January 25, 2015, 03:39:46 pm
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I have gathered some money to upgrade my PC after few years and seeking advice from people, who know better, what parts go together best.
My current setup is
CPU: AMD A6-3650 Quad-core 2.6 GHz
Motherboard: Asrock A75M-HVS
RAM: 2x4GB DDR3 @1600MHz
GPU: Asus HD6670 1GB GDDR5
PSU: Corsair CX430M
Currently planning to get new CPU and GPU, along with new motherboard then (new CPU socket and PCI-E 3.0).
I have a CPU cooler already, so no need to worry about that (Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo).
So far I have been thinking about i5-4690K and GeForce GTX960 (recommend manufacturers).
My budget is approximately 300-400 euros for this upgrade. Might also get a SSD if there will be money left over.
I can get one of those graphics cards for a cheap prize as new (a friend is selling). New costs like
* Inno3D GeForce GTX 960 OC HerculeZ X2
* MSI GeForce GTX 960 Gaming 2G
* EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SSC ACX 2.0+
* Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 OC Windforce 2X
* Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 Gaming G1 Windforce 3X
Or do you have better recommendations?
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Buy an AMD FX processor, don't waste money for Intel i5.
The graphics card is awesome.
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Buy an AMD FX processor, don't waste money for Intel i5.
The graphics card is awesome.
AMD FX-8350? Price difference with an i5-4690k is 70 euros :O
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I'm lower on budget so I may go for 6350 with Sapphire VGA PCI X R7 260X 2GB GD5.
8350 is a beast, yeah. :)
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But Intel (especially i5-i7 series) fits well with nVIDIA GPUs.
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Found some cheaper ways and probably going for i5-4690K if I can get in contact with the seller on Monday.
Any recommendations for the motherboard? What brands should I look at for graphics cards (is there any difference)? Would my CX430M PSU be enough for that setup (i5-4690K and GTX960)?
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But Intel (especially i5-i7 series) fits well with nVIDIA GPUs.
There is really no specific difference between Intel and AMD. Each company has its own focus, but the only differences you will find will be in comparing each individual product against one another. To pick a side based on brand is not going to get you a better setup. ;)
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But Intel (especially i5-i7 series) fits well with nVIDIA GPUs.
I concur.
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Also found an offer for Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5, which is 50 euros more expensive than EVGA GTX 960 SSC ACX 2.0+ (which I had been planning to get so far). Opinions?
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I say go for the GTX 970.
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* Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 Gaming G1 Windforce 3X
I recommend this, it's a beastly overbuild card.
However, if your budget fits it. Go with the 970.
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It's only about an extra 50 dollars as he said, he can save up a little more.
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Ordered the i5-4690K (only slightly more than the AMD FX-8350, gotta love discounts through acquaintances), for motherboard I have chosen Asus Z97M-PLUS (or you have better ideas?) and as for graphics card, I am still comparing those 2.
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Ordered the i5-4690K (only slightly more than the AMD FX-8350, gotta love discounts through acquaintances), for motherboard I have chosen Asus Z97M-PLUS (or you have better ideas?) and as for graphics card, I am still comparing those 2.
Same as me! 4690k and ASUS Z97 beautiful set up. No issues, and well overclocking the possibilities are endless.
Ive got my i5 4690k from 3.5GHZ to 4.5GHZ by just turning up the multiplier, no voltages etc.
Also the 960 is a decent card, was thinking about chucking that into this board also.
But it only supports crossfire, so if you can maybe go for high-end AMD? R9 290/x? and then crossfire?
I got 2 R9 270x's in crossfire and they are pretty darn' decent.
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so if you can maybe go for high-end AMD
I wouldn't recommend something like this even to my worst enemies.
That CPU is spectacular was well, I'd keep it in the build.
I'd go with the 960 GPU and make sure you get the 4G version, you won't need to upgrade that puppy for a while and you won't be let down. If you can get the upgraded 980, then you're all set, hands down.
On a side note:
I'd also recommend before replying having some actual experience as some of the advice here has made me laugh a bit.. clearly some who built their first machine and think they know hardware inside and out. I say this because this is someone's money we're essentially talking about... don't want one's lack of knowledge to end up wasting it.
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I wouldn't recommend something like this even to my worst enemies.
Nvidia fanboy I see :lol:
But if you get the 980 you will be lasting ages. ;)
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Nvidia fanboy I see :lol:
I wouldn't say that, I'm just a realist who is very analytic about hardware and it so happens the performance benchmarks speak for themselves.
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There is barely any GTX960 for sale here, but there is one shop, who is selling 2GB versions only. I am trying to see if they have the Zotac GTX970 4GB available, will try to get that first. I have done quite a thorough research on the internet too, GTX970 seems to be quite a lot faster.
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In terms of hardware configuration there isn't much of an increase between the 970 and the 980, however when comparing the 960 against the 970 they have a hell of a difference. The 970 is just built so much better than the 960, the 970 has a newer Maxwell processor and more cores than the 960 as well as the 970 having a 256bit mem config over the 960s 128 bit config; which translates to roughly more gigabit's per second in terms of processing power. Do note the 970s do require 2 x 6 pins for power compared to the 960's single 6 pin config while only consuming roughly 25W more power.
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Going from personal experience in using a GTX 970 4GB - I've had it for a month now, and I've been able to run anything and everything, with absolutely no lag or hiccups, with ease. If you can afford the extra cost, and you have a sufficient power supply, then it's well worth the bang for your buck. I already spoke to you about it, and you've got my opinion on the card. Just my experience with it so far.
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So, GTX970 and i5-4690K are sure deals right now, gonna get the first one in few hours.
Is there any difference regarding the motherboard really? Cheapest so far seems Asus Z97M-PLUS that would suit me, so I am probably going for that one.
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Hi Janar ;)
I saw few experts talking on a forum some days ago about the 960. Basically they say it's not worth it and the AMD counterpart is cheaper with same performances, or offers better performance at the same price. I would go for a 970 at least, it will last longer and perform better for just some € more..
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With the motherboard, thats the Mini-ATX verison I have the ATX (Z97-K), I really don't know the difference between them.
But the setup you have gave us, minus the GPU is the exact same as mine, and trust me you have made a beauty of a choice.
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So, GTX970 and i5-4690K are sure deals right now, gonna get the first one in few hours.
Is there any difference regarding the motherboard really? Cheapest so far seems Asus Z97M-PLUS that would suit me, so I am probably going for that one.
Motherboards hardly impact game peformance, it's all about choosing a good reliable board (like Asus) to form the backbone of your components. You should just check for size and board features.
With the motherboard, thats the Mini-ATX verison I have the ATX (Z97-K), I really don't know the difference between them.
You're confusing 2 sizes into one name, it's either Micro-ATX or Mini-ITX (in this case Micro-ATX). The difference is that the bigger board gives you more room to put in extra stuff like a second GPU and the bigger board usually has more board features.
@Janar, I rather recommend an ATX board if your case supports that size. The Z97-K that Luke has is equally priced.
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Indeed, Mini-ITX mainly only have one PCI-E slot for the GPU and 1 slot for RAM.
I think he may mean he is referring to his build has one size and the one offered by one of us is another size.
There are differences that will affect your build in the future between the sizes you pick. If you are just building a standard or entry gaming level PC and have no real want for high performance, you can stick to a Mini-ATX for a cheaper option, but will stagnate your future upgrades. You can get cheaper standard ATX boards that will have less features or are older and may be less efficient, but sometimes you don't really notice those things unless you are into those smaller details.
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I'm sticking with the same case as I have now, hence the decision for this Asus Micro-ATX motherboard.
Anyhow, got some parts already (GTX970 runs great :D ) and others will be arriving shortly. Case closed, thank you all for helping me out! :)