Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Gandalf on December 19, 2007, 12:30:59 am
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Ok there are some sounds that players feel some rules are not clear, too strict or not strict enough. Same goes for the 'rights' of some groups.
So come on, discuss the things you think should be improved or are not fair.
Rules :
No flaming, no personal attacks.
This is not killzone, so try to make your statement calm and with good reasons. We will discuss anything.
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I personally think the rules are fine, if people were to abide by them, then the place would be better.
Maybe the rules could be improved if everyone learned to follow them first?
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Well, I guess I said most in MSN.
It's okay to have some rules, but becoming very strict suddenly means a lot of bans and people will start to think "wtf is this, everyone getting banned for stupid reasons."
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Rules are fine,To me IMO they are easy to follow if you are not a trouble causing type of person...Or a cop lol.
Everything is fun,and very good RP(When im on usually)...
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Well, I guess I said most of MSN.
It's okay to have some rules, but becoming very strict suddenly means a lot of bans and people will start to think "wtf is this, everyone getting banned for stupid reasons."
+1
What he said...
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I personally do not see a reason to accuse me in "helping the police"... I was playing as criminal all the time and this days I switched on cops work to see what is the problem with cops... And found out a weird thing... Cops actually have no much possibilities as have criminals even thou chasing players around all SA is a goddamn hard work and I appreciate all cops that really do it...
In compare with "omfg he suspected me for speeding" using /helpmeup under the bridge in water being chased to get on the bridge is more "omfg"... And such "omfg" I found a lot...
I can tell what is the problem... Being a cop attracts all sorts of abuse and rulebreaking - ramming a cop, attacking a cop, annoying driving around till will not be suspected, etc... With such "cops life" suspect for speeding looks even innocent...
And as I heard a lot about cops abusers and do not see cops complaining on criminals, I decided to clear up the police side position...
If people cannot get that thei actions "funny, heh" are annoying for other players - time to become cops and saw it your own eyes...
About strict position - all server was warned - after script will be released the developers will check out the current situation and check if the scripts work perfect and FAIR for all types of roles... And found out that there is no any fair attitude to the cops...
Where it went? the simple example - Pershing square... 20 cars around, 30 players around, one deals drugs, other rams to help a "friend" to escape, other hits a cop and runs when suspected, other drives like idiot ramming all cars and people, here landing helicopter or nevada, plus towtrucks that from no fucking idea why tow police cars and drive out... Such messes will be stopped... and so to clear it out - I made roleplay explanations...
For me was enough sitting with criminal 10 minutes in a water asking him surrender and then watch how other smartass arrived with boat to "help his gang mate" to escape... So yeah, I can honestly say - the criminal will be kicked from server for abusing the water advantage (cannot be shot while swimming)...
the same goes to those, who come to weed field during FBI and ARPD raids "Hey cops /growweed what is going on? /growweed I just came to see /growweed why here are so many cops /growweed /public chat wooohoo i grow weed / publicchat WTF why you suspected me? you do not have evidence", etc...
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Lol,Totally agree with the last parts aragorn :)
There is no possiblillity of having a "Clean" system of non-abusing cops...such as the ARPD(being made up of non-abusers)...
If we had to take out all the abusing cops i think it would end up only ARPD or no free cops anymore,Or just take a lot of rights away from the free cop skin...
Idk if roleplaying skills come naturally or you must train yourself to RP good,but all roles(all people who use them) should learn to use them by practicing alot whenever they on the server;for instance. Im cop,I don't have ARPD Rights,I usually patrol(usually with a partner), I spot a suspect,i chase him(i would be driver) and practice chasing skills and then partner should be /m Pull over now! or /m Surrender now!...Train your skils(unless RP skills come naturally)...
Best Regards,
Duneseek
:ps: These are thoughts coming randomly,and since i don't usually think before i speak inrl,im speaking thoughts so its sloppy
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Where it went? the simple example - Pershing square... 20 cars around, 30 players around, one deals drugs, other rams to help a "friend" to escape, other hits a cop and runs when suspected, other drives like idiot ramming all cars and people, here landing helicopter or nevada, plus towtrucks that from no fucking idea why tow police cars and drive out... Such messes will be stopped... and so to clear it out - I made roleplay explanations...
Now, that really made me lmao.
But i see a problem with this
the criminal will be kicked from server for abusing the water advantage (cannot be shot while swimming)...
you cant be shot?
Can you explain the last 7 times i got killed in the water while trying to swim back to land? :)
Also, you say
after script will be released the developers will check out the current situation and check if the scripts work perfect and FAIR for all types of roles... And found out that there is no any fair attitude to the cops...
to me, it seems that main attraction that you guys build on, is Cops.
ARPD for example.
i see no other 'official' group up there with ARPD, why? can you answer that?
Thanks :)
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Now, that really made me lmao.
But i see a problem with thisyou cant be shot?
Can you explain the last 7 times i got killed in the water while trying to swim back to land? :)
Try shooting while you're in the water, it won't work.
-xcasio
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Hayden just because you make the EMRU does not mean that the server shall implement such scripts and groups for medics. This takes time, and the ARPD needed a lot of help, because it was dieing. Now, new cheifs have been put in, and the ARPD is getting to work again, with some good cops. Other groups can wait, because development cannot start on other things, while the ARPD is lying in the gutter, just about dead. Concentration must be on one thing at a time, and it has worked with the ARPD.
Lionz
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Medics have a script - they can heal, they can run hospitals as private clinics... So I do not see any reason to blame developers in doing nothing for medic group...
Yeah you cannot be shot in the middle of ocean with cops around you... Just cos cops cannot shoot when swim... And if you have no any idea what are we talking about then why comment here?
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I think its perfect like how we do but crashes still are there but we cant do nothing :) Thanks for the Server ArgonathRPG and for the script's! GOOD WORK!!!. Tell me if I'm going to far :)
People why you want new scripts and all you not doing anything else than demand new stuff ! Learn to script ffs and stop whining about the server. All Devs. made a great job and we should be glad for that. I'm sure if you could make a nice script and gets into the server. Stop whining and enjoy the server they made !
Thanks Gandalf for your great work and other !!
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Also, you sayto me, it seems that main attraction that you guys build on, is Cops.
ARPD for example.
i see no other 'official' group up there with ARPD, why? can you answer that?
Thanks :)
Cos you like to shit the developers work and do not see anything around... There is a PriestHood with Padres and Popes... In compare with medics they have only building - cathedral and no any special script command to interest players in anything else...
Still they are running, making cases, reports and roleplay itself... And they do not blame developers in supporting only cops the same as cops did not blame developers in unfair scripting that supports only criminals (which is true)...
Right now Fatboy_Rob you are crying against cops, when cops NEVER cried against criminals... And as medic you really did not get the main... You can roleplay the cases as much as you want... Sharphis made an operation to mr.Scotty in San Fierro Hospital (Aragorn and Clooak - witnesses)... And when anyone on drugs and losing health , that is not a situation to start investigating the "illness"... Cos while you were asking questions - drug user died...
In real life (as you like to wave the real life examples), medics do not ask questions when the client is in critical situation... They start operation immediately...
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Medics have a script - they can heal, they can run hospitals as private clinics... So I do not see any reason to blame developers in doing nothing for medic group...
Yeah you cannot be shot in the middle of ocean with cops around you... Just cos cops cannot shoot when swim... And if you have no any idea what are we talking about then why comment here?
Yes, they can heal, but it takes my money and gives it to them.
And learn to articulate what you are saying, to me, you were saying "you cannot be shot in the ocean when swimmimg from shooting cops." - you can.
Cos you like to shit the developers work and do not see anything around... There is a PriestHood with Padres and Popes... In compare with medics they have only building - cathedral and no any special script command to interest players in anything else...
Still they are running, making cases, reports and roleplay itself... And they do not blame developers in supporting only cops the same as cops did not blame developers in unfair scripting that supports only criminals (which is true)...
Ok, yea... im shitting on the work?
Ok go look at the topic i made about it in SAMP General (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=10957.0), i agreed to develop it myself, and only help with the /r and the healing command.
xso no shitting on the work of anyone!
You see anyone else trying to improve what they do?
Do you see the popes trying to think and give ideas of good scripts or commands for Preisth00d?
Fuck no....
Do you see me trying to fix & Improve what i love to do?
Fuck yes...
Right now Fatboy_Rob you are crying against cops, when cops NEVER cried against criminals... And as medic you really did not get the main... You can roleplay the cases as much as you want... Sharphis made an operation to mr.Scotty in San Fierro Hospital (Aragorn and Clooak - witnesses)... And when anyone on drugs and losing health , that is not a situation to start investigating the "illness"... Cos while you were asking questions - drug user died...
In real life (as you like to wave the real life examples), medics do not ask questions when the client is in critical situation... They start operation immediately...
How am i crying against cops? Where? Please show me where i did that ron ;)
Now, about the 'your stupid roleplay sucks and you let Speaker die'
I Very much suggest you read my post (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=10980.0) under petey's.
Nah better yet, ill post it here, cause it seems that you overlooked it.
13. Medics that got cases with the drug abusers - should heal the drug user to increase his health... The drug abuse removes the player's health, so just "roleplaying a medic" will NOT help him...))) Once again: if a player is addicted to drugs - he loses health REALLY so medics should heal him also REALLY... Not an imaginary healing...
Ok, now i know that was aimed at me.
I'm not gonna sit back and just dust it off, i want you to hear my side of it.
Ok First off, i would have not even came to you if you were anyone else, as you said in OOC "Medic Needed Now!" - that left me with nothing, no description of anything, i had to fucking guess that it was Speaker on the ground, i thought you guys were just asking me to do something for him, like he fell, and he has a fractured leg.
But no, all you said was "Medic Needed Now!" and i came, then you started getting pissed at me because of your fault, your lack of the description.
And it was not my damn fault that i wasn't aware of what abuse of heroin did to your Health, i didn't know it kicks you out of the car when your addicted, that pissed me off, and you bickering at me the whole time.
You were basically yelling at me "do the motherfucking Trigonometry Problem" and i don't know one thing about trigonometry.
In that case, Excuse the fuck out of me for not using drugs.
Now, i have a couple other things to say.
If /call 911 > Paramedic worked, wouldn't you think that would have helped the situation 400x better?
Since it didn't, id advise you to take a small peek at my topic regarding all things with medic + Very good additions Medic Additions + Bug Fixes - if those were fixed, i could have been saving his life.
And if you could have calmed down for a second, you could have explained to me what was happening.
What did you do? stand and watch as i blindlessly try and treat a patient that i had no fucking idea what was wrong with him what so ever, and you know that.
Then you had Grovyle Running into circles doing nothing cop worthy....
i said "/l ok, help me lift him into the ambulance" - what did you do? - stand there, yelling at me.
And still i wasn't aware of the drug addiction effect that speaker had cause i do not play with drugs, and i heard you guys mention something about Drugs and him about to die ( Overdose on a drug ), so i was rushing him to a hospital, then he jumps out, then i couldn't stand anymore of the shit that was being thrown at me cause of everyone Else's fault, so i drove off, left the server.
And yes, just because you do not even look into the medical RP field, Paramedics to not just sit there and /heal ID all day, they check his vitals, his eye's to see if their dilated(to see if he OD'd or is high).
that is the RP i threw in, i tried it, but you guys were freaking yelling at me in OOC about some drug shit i wasn't aware of, then i was confused as hell before i got there.
Please dude, read that topic about the bugs, then come back to me, because my RPing is set in a high place and i KNOW i am a fantastic Roleplayer and i KNOW i am a great Paramedic Roleplayer, and i would rather not have my skills shit on, by someone Else's faults.
Yea....
Hayden just because you make the EMRU does not mean that the server shall implement such scripts and groups for medics. This takes time, and the ARPD needed a lot of help, because it was dieing. Now, new cheifs have been put in, and the ARPD is getting to work again, with some good cops. Other groups can wait, because development cannot start on other things, while the ARPD is lying in the gutter, just about dead. Concentration must be on one thing at a time, and it has worked with the ARPD.
Lionz
And others dont need help?
Ok, you have one guy, working his ass off to develop one group for a month, and then you guys say "well i dont like this, take this away, add this, no i dont like that, add this, take this, add 2 of these"
i would be pissed the hell off.
Now, you overload that guy with requests, not much gets done as he has to work on stuff 1 at a time.
now if you even READ THE POST I MADE REGARDING THIS SITUATION (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=10957.0)
You will see that i agree'd to do everything for it, apart from fixing /r and /call 911 > Paramedics and /heal ID
As i do not know how to do it. Everything else, i can.
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Priests do not need scripts to roleplay - that just shows how high ranked roleplayers they are, cos the real roleplayer does not need any script to get fun from the game... Argonath was always "half-scripted" roleplay server, you should understand it and it was said everywhere already - we do not support tons of commands to keep people in a strongly roles... It is a freedom what Argonath has in game... If you can roleplay only according to scripts - lol - then probably there is some server where you cannot breathe but play by script commands... Try to play there then...
I said - criminal cannot be shot in water - and even described the situation I mean... It means when cops are swimming after you they cannot shoot... And sitting in water 10 minutes "surrender man" is fucking far from roleplay Argonath supports... that is why such criminals who did not surrender and picked up by "mates" - will be kicked (repeatedly banned) from server for abusing water advantage...
Probably you try to improve the roleplay from your point of view... If developers did not react on your "suggestions" then it wasn't accepted... As we have a different point of view, so do not think every suggestion will improve the server... Probably it will lead server to the scripted prisoned roleplay...
If you found out that medic loses money when heals people - PM a bug to me or Gandalf... I did not see any report from you about it...
Yes you accused me in helping cops to make their job easier... When all my posts and notes were on ABUSE from criminals side... Or you think all can just shit cops with abuse and do not react on other side abuse?
About your post I already answered... Drug user loses health - and loses it not imaginary but due to script... Standing and talking to him will not rise his health, and actually I do not see the reason why drug users should call medics even... Cos all they will get - death, cos medic Fatboy thinks he should ask questions first does not matter that client is already dead... I could take to note that you had no idea that drug users lose health - that is why I wrote this EXPLANATION to the roleplay on a case medics have no idea how drug usage script works... That is why I ignored your post... As you did not even understand what I meant and decided i attack you...
"well i dont like this, take this away, add this, no i dont like that, add this, take this, add 2 of these"
And what was that group which developers answered like this?
Also if you think that creating a group gives you possibility act as you like does not mean that if your group is out of rules or developers got idea and suggest to improve here and there according to work with others groups - you are wrong... It is the same as guy comes and tells us he will organize FBI - developers can tell him - join the FBI group and discuss details with FBI leaders...
And yeah I am tired from your shit on developers work all over forums and on server... Do not like our work - fuck off... You know me...
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You think i like the prison roleplay? your wRONg there..
Now, if you even read the medical thing, you would have seen that its not 45 script commands, actually, i didnt even mentioning making new scripts, where did you see the request for new scripts? ;)
All i suggested, is adding 2 vehicle types (red & white FBI, red & white Maverick) to expand the possibility for paramedic's to get to people off road & stuff, and the possibility of adding a couple gates to make it feel more secure, as you cannot just walk up to a medical helicopter and steal it.
Yes you accused me in helping cops to make their job easier
:lol:
No i did not...
developers can tell him - join the FBI group and discuss details with FBI leaders...
and what do you think i did?
And your mindset RON is "My way or the highway" - to me, you dont even take anyone else's suggestions.
And hey, if you dont like the other cars or gates idea, fine by me, but could you atlease fix the commands already there ffs?
Thanks :)
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Priests do not need scripts to roleplay - that just shows how high ranked roleplayers they are,
that is totally correct and not just cos im a member of the priesthood im saying this, we have one cathedral and a romero parked behind it, and we are now one of the top roleplaying groups, everyone knows it..
and also, if you guys look on wikipedia, you will see that in SA:MP, there are 2 main different kind of roleplays on servers, Argonath falls into the 'Classic' roleplay era, like Aragorn said, we do not wish to depend on scripts to do roleplay for us, and i actually think that higher quality roleplayers come from servers like ours, as we use '/ me' for almost all roleplay, it makes us better RPers
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Thats very True Anto, but, think of this,
Cops, they use /r and /cuff and /sturm and /jail ID and /call 911 > police and all that
They need those commands to give out great roleplay.
Priests shouldent have to use any, cause, all good RP coems from /me /l and all that.
Medic's...
We dont have /r we dont have /heal ID we dont have /call 911 > paramdics.
What can we do?
nothing but imaginary roleplay
no possibility of Radio chat, unless we pack everyone into one van...
no possibility of someone calling for paramedic's...
no possibility of us reaching someone in chilliad in an ambulance..
no possibility to heal people without handing them our money...
think i am wRONg about these?
Go be medic and test all the commands and try and drive through the countryside and up chilliad....
have someone /call 911 > paramedic....
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Huh? Now you are fucking telling me that we do not take any suggestions???
Look at whole script system moron...
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Huh? Now you are fucking telling me that we do not take any suggestions???
Look at whole script system moron...
:redface:
hayden the thing like hand money to ppl instead of us can be fixed, but i think things are fine, yeh maybe we could add the vehicles who knows, like aragon said RP doesent need scripts :)
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Huh? Now you are fucking telling me that we do not take any suggestions???
Look at whole script system moron...
I didnt mean for it to come out like that, it was my fault for forgetting to think before i posted, I am sorry.
But like, what i really meant to say, is that it seems that no more idea's are getting accepted into new script
I mean, with the vehicles & gates & stuff for medical and other government things that could be worked on such as FBI, SWAT, I can do most of the work with tips from Gandalf, im just trying to help the server with expanding roleplay possibiltys without making it Argoanth Prison RP
Cause we all know that Shitcity RP style sucks very much...
Once again, sorry for the mistake of not explaining what i said
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That is why I reacted on your words about script this and that... Let me tell you that developers disabled the gates idea... And let me tell you also that every idea that people wanna to drag into scripts can cause the errors in the whole system or be out of our imagination about roleplay... Yes we made the basic - cops and properties script...
and the real roleplay does not even need MORE then this...
We made mostly for fun roleplay scripting - added some interiors for more roles...
But that does not need to each role or interior we will make the personal script system...
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Ok i see now that i sat back and thought about it, and i understand what we can and cant do.
I have some other idea's about what we can do to slighty improve the medical team, as it is kinda over looked by players, but i dont want to, cause you will get pissed i think.
No gates, but maybe adding 2-3(one for each city) medivac helis and 4-8 Alternate Ambulances' maybe?
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OK, lets see, why can't we call 911? If I type in the chat 'OMG, 911, some guy has jacked me and tries to kill me with my own healthbar...' no one replies.
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Hayden if 911 is not working then why not advertise your phone number as EMRU hotline. You can control and dispatch the units by PM.
Until /r works on medics that is an effective way to work. You might have thought of it yourself.
Healing bug will be solved.
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Yea, thats what i do ingame, like /ad EMRU on Duty | Dispatch: 8663, etc
and thanks again
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I can imagine it would be awkward being a medic, because, instead of calling a paramedic and waiting for the whole situation to be sorted, people can just go to a drinks machine or Pizza stack...
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I can imagine it would be awkward being a medic, because, instead of calling a paramedic and waiting for the whole situation to be sorted, people can just go to a drinks machine or Pizza stack...
Thats what you call non-RP, this is RP purpose
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Why is getting food from Pizza Stack non role playing? It was put their for a reason, and it is neccessary, because medics cannot be on 24/7. The vending machines and fast food outlets are a everlasting replacement.
Lionz
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A bit too much of replacement I think.
All you need is a vending machine to get healed. :neutral:
But, paramedic is for roleplaying, like Hayden has been doing. Not just so you go and /heal /heal etc.
Still, paramedics deserve some commands, like /heal and /r I think.
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They have such commands... Dunno what Hayden wants more for paramedics roleplay...
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Thats what you call non-RP, this is RP purpose
But how many people actually call a medic apart from Hank?
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They have such commands... Dunno what Hayden wants more for paramedics roleplay...
Maybe if you actually looked at your script, tried it yourself, then you'd know they didn't yet work for Medics.
I agree with every single thing Hayden has said in this thread. He has very much captured how many players feel - left out. As for my own observations, I have seen that many feel that non-Admins are sometimes overlooked, and have no part in the Server Development. Ideas are implemented, yes, but one thing for example, the LSPD Gate, people only wanted a simple /opengate in an area command. Instead, a really complex gate was attempted and in the end scrapped.
I have also noticed something in this thread - you have a rule for no Flaming, and yet you call people "Moron" which makes you sound rather stupid, because what they are saying is absolutely correct. The quote "My way or the Highway" applies very well to your views. This is something you are probably entitled to, it would just help if 'Your way' was a little more agreeable and considering to lower players.
Lately, every time I go on Argonath I get pissed off with a possible series of things - admin abuse, cop abuse, both of the previous, flaming from an Admin. It really, really annoys me when an Admin acts all high and mighty, and untouchable - because they are. We can't do shit against them, the same with the Cops and the ARPD. We can't do anything against them, except quit the game. We can't argue with an Admin when they are wrong, we get bananaed and kicked. And worst of all, we can't do anything at all to argue with you, because you never even understand what we are saying.
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They have such commands... Dunno what Hayden wants more for paramedics roleplay...
Nothing more...
We meed nothing more on the scripts side, and cars, but gandalf & you explained that already(cars)
Thanks panda btw
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Maybe if you actually looked at your script, tried it yourself, then you'd know they didn't yet work for Medics.
I agree with every single thing Hayden has said in this thread. He has very much captured how many players feel - left out. As for my own observations, I have seen that many feel that non-Admins are sometimes overlooked, and have no part in the Server Development. Ideas are implemented, yes, but one thing for example, the LSPD Gate, people only wanted a simple /opengate in an area command. Instead, a really complex gate was attempted and in the end scrapped.
It was not at all complex, but reacted on the presence of a cop. Worked without any failure on test server.
Also before removing we changed the gate work to an /opengate command. Result : the same, after some time it broke and /opengate did not open the gate any more.
Problem defined as a glitch in the 'moveobject' function of SA:MP. Solutions:
1. continue making cops crazy
2. remove the gate
Chosen nr 2.
I have also noticed something in this thread - you have a rule for no Flaming, and yet you call people "Moron" which makes you sound rather stupid, because what they are saying is absolutely correct. The quote "My way or the Highway" applies very well to your views. This is something you are probably entitled to, it would just help if 'Your way' was a little more agreeable and considering to lower players.
Who are 'lower' ? In my view players are equal, and admins are in service of other players.
Lately, every time I go on Argonath I get pissed off with a possible series of things - admin abuse, cop abuse, both of the previous, flaming from an Admin. It really, really annoys me when an Admin acts all high and mighty, and untouchable - because they are. We can't do shit against them, the same with the Cops and the ARPD. We can't do anything against them, except quit the game. We can't argue with an Admin when they are wrong, we get bananaed and kicked. And worst of all, we can't do anything at all to argue with you, because you never even understand what we are saying.
That is why we made the community report. It is meant to find out if there is any problems. IF you feel that you did not break the rules and can not argue, write there. If you disagree about the rules, ask on forums...
Yes we do not always agree with ideas of players, sometimes because it would be too much advantage, other times because the technical side does not agree.
And usually we try to explain why. There is one thing you should understand. Anyone who wants to have some special things should first prove that thye deserve it.
If there are paramedics stand-by at all time.... if they work to save people and take dead people to the morgue...then we will provide something.
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Who are 'lower' ? In my view players are equal, and admins are in service of other players.
That is why we made the community report. It is meant to find out if there is any problems. IF you feel that you did not break the rules and can not argue, write there. If you disagree about the rules, ask on forums...
It is in my eyes that some Admins act as higher players, and this is where I came with the word "lower" in my mind. It really is the way non-Admin regulars are made to feel on Argonath.
I have used the Community Report before, however in a relatively blatant case of Abuse nothing was done because basically it didn't sound like Abuse, and the Logs wouldn't have shown it as abuse (in the end, the lack of result was predictable based on lack of evidence). The only way to know these things is to actually have been on the Server at the time, to get a mood/feel of the players online etc.
I understand you can't be always online :lol: but so many times an Admin works against the players. Just today, one of the Soloniks Roleplayed stealing a car (not carjacking, btw), and then the owner (an Admin) pointed Shotguns (which is perfectly fine), then the Solonik member quickly drove off in the (fast) car. They were forced under threat of Admin action to bring it back, despite certain death/injury for them if they had gotten out of the car in the first place (they were definently going to be shot whatever happened, I can't describe how so here, which is a good example of how text can't convey mood).
Also, the Corleones shot at that same member, and upon him returning fire the Corleones ran to the cops and the admins prior to the Solonik member being frozen for DMing, despite it being Self-Defense.
I know that they should Community Report these things, but the fact is text can't really explain it. Neither can a Screenshot. Which is unfortunately a problem that I know nobody can solve.
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If a player is annoying - you can report admins about it...
If you think someone abused you - you could send a report...
Blaming the main admins who were and are working with the complains means have no idea what work it is... If you think that every report should be answered by kicking or banning people - then you are more abusive... To waste a time on players and investigations who started flame first - un-thankful work... However this work was done and still continues...
Reason why Elrond resigned from this work - right in wasting time (it takes a lot of time from admin to investigate every case)...
Admins are flaming? Did not see... Any proves please... The one who was flaming on my eyes - lost admins rights in 5 seconds...
Roleplay in MULTIplayer supposes both sides included in... If Soloniks just came and stole a car player kept near him - it can be zomg annoying... Especially when people roleplay, have some conversations...
I myself today roleplayed a cop and the guy did not get the idea of our operation... We dealed with him according to roleplay without hurting each other... As I can honestly understand him that he is not involved yet into the situation...
the same goes to Krist_Corleone who called me and I answered "Hello Corleone's ass" he was sad, pmed me "what is the problem" and i apologized told him sorry i thought you were involved in roleplay between C.R.A.S.H. and Corleones...
As for admins I haven't seen from admins any HARD crimes...
All this "omfg lots admins abusing, lots cops abusing, etc. concider as a fake info until will not have any proves on all this "omfg lots"...
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And someone has frozen a suspect to shoot him.
Well I'd update the Cop rules, sorry if it was said before.
1. A suspect is not always guilty. Cops have to collect evidence and proccess the suspect in the city hall.
2. If a suspect is armless, only melee weapons can be used against him. (14 cops shot me for speeding).
3. Cops are only allowed to shoot if the suspect is armed and dangerous.
4. If a suspect drowns, the cops have to do EVERYTHING to help him, thanks to Marten, the only of 6 cops who thought of that in a pursuit.
5. Did you shoot someone? You have to pay for it, most of the cops abuse their guns.
6. RP siutuations have to be dealt with, Frank once dispatched a cadet to deal with a traffic accident. The cadet didn't even bother doing it.
7. Cops MUST know geographie of the state, because I never heard ANY cop requiring a roadblock on the north path of Richman, for example.
8. What's up with hanging out in front of the Police Department?
Sorry if it was mentioned before.
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Yeah man I was thinking about those complains "OMG I was just speeding and they suspected me!"
If you are suspected means cops are near (they cannot suspect being in other area)... If they are near - they exactly see that you are speeding... So here I do not see a crime from cops to suspect...
Yes they can ask to pull over, try sirens, megaphone... And I see they ask to stop...
The problem came from:
- All wanna be wanted are speeding in front of cops to attract attention
- 90% asking "pull over" has no results...
On future we plan to add a "ticket" system for reckless drivers and speeders... And ARPD official officers will have rights to remove license, which means the car of constant reckless driver and speeder will be removed from his ownership...
What about such idea?
Roadblocks almost useless especially against speeders... While they will make a roadblock, speeder will be in SF...
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What I mean is they SHOT me. And think about that drown thing, they nearly banned me for it.
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Read the rules: suicide when wanted is not allowed as it is lame...
Cops open fire when player does not cooperate with them... They can NOT stick you and even cuff if you are against... Against? get a bullet... this is a game possibilities...
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And someone has frozen a suspect to shoot him.
Well I'd update the Cop rules, sorry if it was said before.
1. A suspect is not always guilty. Cops have to collect evidence and proccess the suspect in the city hall.
2. If a suspect is armless, only melee weapons can be used against him. (14 cops shot me for speeding).
3. Cops are only allowed to shoot if the suspect is armed and dangerous.
4. If a suspect drowns, the cops have to do EVERYTHING to help him, thanks to Marten, the only of 6 cops who thought of that in a pursuit.
5. Did you shoot someone? You have to pay for it, most of the cops abuse their guns.
6. RP siutuations have to be dealt with, Frank once dispatched a cadet to deal with a traffic accident. The cadet didn't even bother doing it.
7. Cops MUST know geographie of the state, because I never heard ANY cop requiring a roadblock on the north path of Richman, for example.
8. What's up with hanging out in front of the Police Department?
Sorry if it was mentioned before.
1. They are in our game. Although if you are a good RPer you might convince the cops to go to confession
2. If a suspect runs cops can use whatever weapon they have. If a suspects surrenders, they get warned for killing.
3. Cops are allowed to shoot unless the suspect surrenders
4. If a suspect gets in to the water by accident yes. If he goes in to the water to escape getting caught they can still shoot him.
5. If a cop shoots an innocent he gets warned. Three warnings is kick. This is a scripted system.
6. Then the cadet will probably not be promoted.
7. Agreed.
8. That is where most people go to attack cops and get wanted.
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That's clear, thanks.