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Title: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Paroxysm on December 19, 2007, 07:08:35 am
On 2.2 Cops weren't shown on the Radar, but now they are again. It would be better if Cops weren't shown on the Map so when Crims do Kidnappings or Drug Deals ect. Cops can get vantage Points...Any else agree?  :cop:
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Tovenaarke on December 19, 2007, 10:44:08 am
Sounds nice...
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Omri on December 19, 2007, 11:01:14 am
Dont like it that much.. BUT SWAT and F.B.I should not, becouse if they are making some secret missions or something else :)




//Omri
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: VMNT on December 19, 2007, 11:16:10 am
If you're gonna take one section of people off of the map, it's only fair that the other people get taken off as well, it's better to just leave it.
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Aragorn on December 19, 2007, 11:19:19 am
Cops off the radar - advantage of cops over criminals... This was already discussed...
Wanna cops off radar - make suggestion to remove criminals off the radar...
Then try to find the guy in Verdant Meadows by all ARPD team... And invite me to watch this excellent idea in work...
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Paroxysm on December 19, 2007, 12:26:35 pm
Cops off the radar - advantage of cops over criminals...

Just like in real life.  :)
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: tiderman on December 19, 2007, 03:33:27 pm
Just like in real life.  :)
Yeah.. cops have radar with blips on moving all the time......
btw i like to turn off my radar in HUD settings somtimes..
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Aragorn on December 19, 2007, 03:36:50 pm
Just like in real life.  :)

For those who does not know the terms of gaming...
Advantage over other player = cheating...

Thanks
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Luca_Scalise on December 19, 2007, 03:41:09 pm
We can't make many operations, when the police raid a mafia or gang meeting, they ran away before we block the zone because they see us on the map. I think the criminals have an advantage on the police... they know where to go and what to do because they see the police cars on the map.. which is more Metagaming then RP. I was hiding behind a wall, next to some dealers, and 1 came there to check what i was doing... so he messed my cover.
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Aragorn on December 19, 2007, 03:47:42 pm
Luca lets take a chase... Not a random operations that are 1/100chases...
You know exactly where to drive and where to get him and he has no idea where are cops...
That is advantage...
I am sure criminals will start telling later "wtf cops are invisible why?"...
And for fair playing - then lets make all invisible, citizens too, so cops will not have idea where to drive to check civilians... Only then players will start demand back all dots as it was before with local chat default "Ghost bored server"...
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Indigo on December 19, 2007, 04:00:58 pm
Paroxysm, you can find the same topic that was 2 or 3 weeks ago..

To make cops invisible if you remember Gandalf told to already "if u turn off the sound you won't hear any copcar behind and with going back you will simply ram it" (and he isn't using any sound).
There are two sides: cops and criminals. if you give advantage to cops, criminals will be upset, same will go to cops if criminals will be invisible. Also I agree with Ron - if developers will make none player visible this server will be a "ghost server"  :neutral:

I have an idea, maybe the cops could be visible in smaller range as it is now? (in minimap I mean).

Thank you.
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Aragorn on December 19, 2007, 05:26:19 pm
We had no problem to roleplay with radars as cops... And as for me - it is just an excuse of bad experience...
Why should we disable radars if all roleplay depends of players and not of mapping in game...
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Jnn on December 19, 2007, 05:34:31 pm
Yeah well, it's kinda sad that you can't do any big ambushes with SWAT etc because everyone sees them on map.
But, on other side, it would be damn lame if all map icons were disabled. :neutral:

So, I think that it's best to save the map icons. Unless it's possible to make something like this:

Unsuspected people see everyone on map.
Cops (color blue) see everyone expect suspects. (color orange)
Suspects (color orange) see everyone expect cops. (color blue)

That way, it would benefit best, in my opinion. Map wouldn't be totally empty.

Ofc, it might be good idea for example for SWAT and FBI to have possibility of disappearing from map, but I have no idea if that's possible - and even if it is, it's unfair for others.
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Protonkid on December 19, 2007, 05:37:40 pm
Oh goody, I remember how cops always missed me in MTA. That would be funny here :D
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Neave on December 20, 2007, 12:19:21 am
Then how do you expect cops to find other cops when they need assistance? Its hard to type and drive at the same time.. actually its impossable :)
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Aragorn on December 20, 2007, 12:55:07 am
There was already SWAT operation "ARPD vs Daniel_Corleone", was finished successful and amazing roleplayed (Thanks to Bishop Anto for helping)... So do not tell me blips on map remove from cops possibilities...
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Jnn on December 20, 2007, 03:13:41 am
If something works well once, it doesn't mean that it goes well next time. :)


Then how do you expect cops to find other cops when they need assistance? Its hard to type and drive at the same time.. actually its impossable :)

That's why cops work in pairs. Driver is never supposed to type, he should focus on driving. His/her partner is the one typing. I don't think that it's impossible for partner to type. ;)
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: BlackBird on December 20, 2007, 04:32:38 am
On 2.2 Cops weren't shown on the Radar, but now they are again. It would be better if Cops weren't shown on the Map so when Crims do Kidnappings or Drug Deals ect. Cops can get vantage Points...Any else agree?  :cop:
then criminals should not be shown aswell,
i think the criminal system should be like on MTA where its jsut the list of criminals and not shown on the map so it gives everyone a fair playing feild
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Protonkid on December 20, 2007, 08:08:36 am
I propose the wanted level be able to be shaken off in a while.
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Aragorn on December 20, 2007, 08:31:17 am
If something works well once, it doesn't mean that it goes well next time. :)

It means that with good roleplay skills and some mind possible any operation to be done...
As I said before "The bad dancer always blames his balls"....
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Protonkid on December 20, 2007, 08:56:53 am
It means that with good roleplay skills and some mind possible any operation to be done...
As I said before "The bad dancer always blames his balls"....
You are really russian. Mir.
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Ylisalajane on December 20, 2007, 11:22:48 am
Cops suck and abuse their rights already too much.
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Aragorn on December 20, 2007, 11:58:43 am
Cops suck and abuse their rights already too much.

Cops do not abuse rights more then criminals... The one who suck and abuse - non-rp criminals...
From what I saw - cops are doing the best roleplaying on server and are the best team that leads Argonath SAMP roleplay...
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Gandalf on December 20, 2007, 12:03:09 pm
And how do they abuse ?

The system of MTA was thought about, but wit a possible 100 players the wanted list would get too long to read in normal chat. So we had to come up with some alternative. The alternative: show wanted by colour. No need for long texts, and people can see they are wanted. From the 0.2 we added stars, which means a wanted person can see his wanted level.

To let it wear off is not a good idea. Want to lose your wanted level ? Confess or go to jail. Already enough runners.

Now about abusing cops..... people ram, shoot, insult anything to get wanted. Then they run. If they are killed, moan about abuse.
If players abuse their rights or suspect for wrong reasons, complain to admins.
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Protonkid on December 20, 2007, 12:05:15 pm
 :wow: I am an idiot. I forgot about all the codes. :poke:
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Alsatian on December 20, 2007, 12:30:44 pm
:wow: I am an idiot
yes my friend i think u are  :lol: (J/K)
Title: Re: Remove the Cops from Radar.
Post by: Protonkid on December 20, 2007, 12:59:02 pm
What is it, when I say 'You have to dive after me, it's RP' and the cop just reports me? It's not a complain, just asking.
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