Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP Unban Requests => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP Closed Unban Requests => Topic started by: Joe_Cale on March 19, 2015, 04:37:55 pm
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Your in-game name:
Joe_Casalesi
Ban reason as was stated in-game:
''Abuse loan system,Promoting it.''
Admin who banned you:
[Rstar]Cyril
When you were banned:
19.3.2015.
Additional notes:
Hello, I just wanted to say:I only took one (bank loan) of 150-200k
to check how it works and i repay it back after about 10 minutes.
I would like to know better the reason of my bann.
And i will try to explain or answer better about that.
Because im still confused and unsure about the bann reason.
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You misused the loan system by buying a cheap house and selling it in order to get the money from the loan in your bank account and use it for something else than buying properties.
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Good morning Cyril.
Before few month,That i took that loan i bought cheap house near LS Hospital.
I do /invent and saw that the money goes to my bank account.
Then,I sell that house and goes to the bank and pay the all loan back.
I just wanted to know how that loans works.
The proptries that i bought its all from Casino gambling.
Im So sorry for that all mess Cyril,I just wanted to know how loans works.
I am realy invest my whole time in this server.When i get banned i just almost cry.Its makes me cofused beacuse i didnt know why,Now i know what you mean 'Abuse Loan' i said what happend.
I realy dont know how many loan did i took.I think it was 100k.or 200k.Realy dont know how many.
But if i took 100k,I bought house 25k.After it,Sell it back and goes to the bank and paid 100k.Mybe i had to pay more then 100k?
Im so sorry Cyril for that whole mess.I understand your reason for ban,But mybe i took loan of 100k and paid back 100k and not more that why its looks like i abuse loans.
Im sorry,Argonath is all my life.I play here since RS4,I joined to the IDF and stop playing.After i earn some cash i bought a Laptop thats they way to play in the armybase.I bought Laptop to play Argonath when im far from home.
Please. :cry:
Have a nice day.
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There some things that i want to say.
I am sorry for anything.I must say that i didnt abuse that loan system.I didnt use any 1 ARD to buy any proptry with loans.
I make my all money from casino.
Anyway,I am sorry for things that ive done and things that i didnt do.
I want play argnoath again so much,I swear this is my life.I check this unban request per 5 minuts.
Please forgive me,Im not saying that i use this abuse,But i am understand this point.
I work hard in this server and you can check that im almost log in 24/7.
This is my life!
Please guys please.
I LOVE argonath so much,Please,Im beggin you.I will be good boy i will not do anything bad i will prove my self in the server i will not rulebreak ( I dont say that i do that before i banned,I just give you a promise)
I cant belive that im saying it.But im 21,And im crying because this ban.Im in realy bad mood because of this.
I am helping to a new players,I am helping to anyone who need help!
I was active in RS4 in name 'Dan_Tzabari'.I quiet beacuse i join to IDF and i cannot play with PC at army,So i earn cash,It was hard but i made it.And i bought a Laptop to play in Argonath in the army.
And now i get banned.Please guys im beggin you this is all my life i love argonath so much.
I love you all one by one!Please you guys give me a chance.
Im beggin you guys.Please answer me,Please give me another chance,If i will just make a little bad thing ban me for all my life.
Thanks you a lot for waste you time and read it.
Have a nice day
Dan.
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I am so SORRY for that 'Spamm'
But please guys,I fell like im die when i cant play,And i can see answers..I refresh this page every 5 minuts.My heart beat so hard.I am sry for whole things.But i want you belive me guys,I didnt use loans to buy proptry or use it for anything else! I swear in my died grandpa head.I earn my money from casinos!
I swear guys.
I love you all.
Dan.
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Please, quantify the amount you have cheated by exploting the loan bug.
You have been noticed, also, promoting the bug to your team mates, please list all of their names.
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Hello iMarkz,
I want to repeat a little about what happened because it seems like missunderstand, I did loan about around 100k and bought a little house near the Hospital for around 25k (just to check how the bank loan works) And then in like 2-3 minutes i sold that house and returned the money. And the only one who i have told about that i can get cash in my bank account is with Adam... it was it after like 1 mounth after i took the loan and even then i told him i dont know if thats ilegel and i didnt use that. This is all i know from now. You may ask me more questions i will answer.
Thank you for reading.
Dan Tzabari.
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5:30PM, 18th March 2015 Bought a property $-3,614,860
5:27PM, 18th March 2015 Sold a property $391,000
5:16PM, 18th March 2015 Sold a property $493,475
5:15PM, 18th March 2015 Sold a property $600,260
10:47PM, 17th March 2015 Bought a property $-600,260
1:13PM, 16th March 2015 Sold a property $320,200
1:11PM, 16th March 2015 Bought a property $-312,200
11:37PM, 14th March 2015 Bought a property $-493,475
11:37PM, 14th March 2015 Sold a property $493,475
9:46PM, 13th March 2015 Bought a property $-493,475
9:40PM, 13th March 2015 Sold a property $493,475
8:28PM, 13th March 2015 Bought a property $-493,475
8:24PM, 13th March 2015 Sold a property $443,475
8:19PM, 13th March 2015 Bought a property $-443,475
5:06PM, 13th March 2015 Sold a property $450,000
5:04PM, 13th March 2015 Bought a property $-450,000
8:18PM, 11th March 2015 Sold a property $28,000
8:10PM, 11th March 2015 Bought a property $-28,000
8:09PM, 11th March 2015 Sold a property $28,000
8:08PM, 11th March 2015 Bought a property $-28,000
8:08PM, 11th March 2015 Sold a property $28,000
8:08PM, 11th March 2015 Bought a property $-28,000
6:28PM, 2nd March 2015 Sold a property $602,080
1:58PM, 2nd March 2015 Bought a property $-602,080
1:58PM, 2nd March 2015 Sold a property $602,080
1:53PM, 2nd March 2015 Bought a property $-602,080
1:53PM, 2nd March 2015 Sold a property $602,080
1:50PM, 2nd March 2015 Bought a property $-550,080
9:33PM, 9th February 2015 Bought a property $-376,000
9:33PM, 9th February 2015 Sold a property $376,000
9:29PM, 9th February 2015 Bought a property $-371,000
9:28PM, 9th February 2015 Sold a property $273,220
9:25PM, 9th February 2015 Bought a property $-273,220
9:24PM, 9th February 2015 Sold a property $273,220
9:24PM, 9th February 2015 Bought a property $-273,220
9:47PM, 21st January 2015 Sold a property $42,500
9:44PM, 21st January 2015 Sold a property $42,500
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Hello Corony.
I can't understand this.
And why I got minus over there?
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Hey again.i try to think why I got minus.
When I took that loan I took 100k and paid excaly 100k,without interest.
I thought if I took a loan and paid it back after 10 minuts I will not have to pay that interest.
I think that why it's seems like I abuse loan system.
Guys,I know you and I know you the best.so I don't have chance lie,what I will never do.
See at my chat logs that 95% from weed and casino and 5% is from trucking.
The interest make that all mess.i think I know what the problem,the interest.
Thanks.
Dan
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Hello again.
One more thing that I forgot to say.
When you see sold and buy property and the value changed,it is because I ask from admins to change interior on business,you can check this guys.
I never abused the loan system,I took one loan on 100k and paid back 100k.
The interest make the whole problem.
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Why did you purchase and sell the same property on the 9th February, 2nd March, 11th March, 13th March and 18th March (probably others) over and over? Refer to the economy logs I posted...
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Good morning.
As I said in the last message.
When you see Sell and Sold it was because I wanted to change ints.
Admin help me with it.cuz I can't change it by my self.
I will tell it again.i love argonath,I was play in here since 2011.then I had a breake.but it doesn't matter right now.
I know rules very well.and the last thing I wanted to do its breake rule.
That bug in the loan system cuz I paid excaly what I took.
And the interest makes the problem.even every time when I was in bank I never saw that I still have loan.
I took only one loan,and paid it after 10 minuts.
Thanks for reading and have a nice day.
Dan Tzabari
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I believe that Cyril is the one who could help us to clarify what happened in your case, let's wait for more informations.
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Hello iMarkz.
Thanks for that answer.
Im wating for Cyril replay.
Have a nice day.
Dan Tzabari.
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Hey again.
Get I got answer please?
Thanks and good day.
Dan Tzabari
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Please, be patient while we wait the answer that Cyril will provide.
Posting more and more messages within this topic does not help to boost the unban process.
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Hey again.
Okey,thanks you.
Dan Tzabari
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Still interested.
Dan.
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Cyril,wating for you. ;)
Thanks.
Dan.
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Cyril is going to be away for a while so he won't be able to deal with this.
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I just saw him before 5 minuts over here.
Why he cabt give me an answer before he left?
Im going to jail IRL for 2 month in little more then 1 week from now.
Im waiting for his answer for 3 days.and he just was logeed in before few minuts.
Why he couldnt answer me man?
Its really feel for me ilke im getting ignore.
I dont deserves it i respect you all and feel like i get ignored.
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I have deepened the case and I have not found any money inbalance on your account, fortunately. Despite this, Cyril claims you have supported the use of a bugged loan system, here below there is the reference:
[12:04:45] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : both of you should take aroud 600k loan each..
[12:05:09] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l but you know it's not working the way you're thinking?
[12:05:19] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : What do you mean?
[12:05:22] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l when I take a loan I don't get the money
[12:05:29] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : So?
[12:05:35] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l I get it when I'm buying the property
[12:05:39] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : oh.
[12:05:42] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : Ehmm.
[12:05:44] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l you know what I mean?
[12:05:48] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : Yes.
[12:05:49] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l I have to take 1.2M loan
[12:05:58] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l It can't be divided by two
[12:06:02] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : Listen,
[12:06:13] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l and if loan won't be paid off
[12:06:18] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l the Casino is gone
[12:06:21] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l with the money
[12:06:46] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : You can take a loan of (for example) 100k.Bought house of 20k.and you get 80k to bank
[12:07:00] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : i checked it when i was 3 weeks in server
[12:07:10] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l it's a bug probably
[12:07:22] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : I chekced it.
[12:07:33] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l yeah, but is it allowed?
[12:07:48] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : I dont know.There is no rule about it.
[12:07:52] CMD -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : /cb Welcome back Ali.
[12:08:13] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l It's a bug I think
[12:08:23] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l and there should not be using bugs to get Royal
[12:08:23] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : I dont know..
[12:08:29] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : You right.
[12:08:36] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : Ehmm.
[12:08:48] MSG -> Joe_Casalesi (6) : So we only work hard for it.
[12:08:54] CMD -> Adam_Casalesi (13) : /l that's right
Logs above show you intented to abuse a potentially bugged loan system in order to get extra money from the loan, contrarily to how the loan system is supposed to work. We may move on once explained by you how come you have decided to propose this to your team mates.
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Me and Adam bosses of Casalesi family
We wanted to get the money to bought the Royal casino.as you can see,he asked if that allowed.i says that i dont know if it alloweed,and i dont saw any rule about it.then we both agree to not do that.and we didnt does.cuz we dont wanted involved in bad situations.
Lemme know something.if i am talking about "abuse loan sys"(when i didnt know is that allowed) its bannable?we talked about it and i understand that its not allowed.and we didnt do that.
You says i had no money at bank account? Check my bizz(gs 1+hideout+house) and my pocket money please.
and im almost not use my bank account.only if i want buy a proptry i am deposit and buy bizz.(why im not handle it in the bank you ask?cuz im dealr,i play at casino a lot and thats why.)
As you can see above,we needed get 1.2m more to get the casino.after few days arround day or two,i won in casino from Colin_wyane more then 1.2M.
You can check this if you dont belive me.
I will repat.i never abuse loan system.please,check the thing with the interest,i took 100k loan and paid 100k back.after 10 minuts,cuz i just wanted to check how loan sys works.and it was 1 month before i talk with adam.i dont tought that if i took loan and pay it back after 10 minuts i should pay more.thats what make the problem i think) you can check it too.
Just tell me why you think i abuse that system and i will give you ansewar.
I know i didnt use it.so i stand behind my words.
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Just for the record.
I dont remember if it was EXACTLY 100k.it was arround it.not far from 100k.
I wont you think im a lier.
Thanks.
Dan. M
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Just for the record.
I dont remember if it was EXACTLY 100k.it was arround it.not far from 100k.
I wont you think im a lier.
Thanks.
Dan.
[edit,cuz I understnad some thing)
You ask why i share with with adam?becasue we was so hungry to got the casino fast.thats why i talked to Adam.
As i said.we both decided not do that cuz we dont know if it that allowed.thats it.
If you got more questions to ask,i will answer in love.
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If Adam did not advise you to avoid abusing the loan system, I am certain you would have continued to do so.
As your ban has been issued in order to prevent you from abusing the loan system but there is no trace of an actual exploitation, I will give you one more chance to return playing but make sure you keep yourself away from troubles, as this is the last time you visit the unban section.
Welcome back, unbanned.