Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 12:08:17 am

Title: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 12:08:17 am
Hello, fellows,

As you all know I'm a long time player here, and most of you know I play in another servers aimed to more strict Roleplay, so I'm in total support of Roleplaying,

Yet, this is what happened with me today, involving Argonath High-Staff (Cyril) and some members of the Corleone Family (which I could understand the actions from them, but not from the staff).
Basically I joined the server, to find myself suspected for 'killing Kaze', I drove for two minutes around San Fierro, and lost my suspection, and according to the new rule, I'm no longer part of that Roleplay, regardless.

Source:
Someone who escapes is no longer on the run and has the obligation to leave those still in the roleplay.
It seemed strange to anyone that you first try to stay away from cops until suspect is removed, and then decide to get back in to action. This lead to the current situation. As this was already present in RS3 and RS4 nobody should tell it is in any way a new rule.
Keep in mind it's not a case of "Lose suspection > instantly jump out of the car", it's more like remove yourself from the situation when you get the chance to - you find another car or there is a way for you to get away from the current roleplay situation.
If you are there the whole situation, so from the start, you can assist your 'ally'. Yet, your MAIN goal as a suspect is to escape. So if you have done that. You have to leave.
So what do you want, the script to keep you suspected until everyone around you has 1 second left on their wanted timer and then have everyone escape at the same time?

So I'm sure what I'm writing next has nothing to do with that killing, since I was already cleared of the Roleplay situation.

Anyway, as soon as I lost my wanted status, I decided to partake an event brought us by Traser, I even whispered the man saying I was going.
The event was about finding a brief case that was close to his location. I was literally next to him, to when Corleones plus Cyril, yes, the manager, came to me with the random excuse 'PULL OVER, STOP.' - I stopped my vehicle to instantly get my tyres shot - 'GET OUT OF THE VEHICLE, NOW', they shouted with their mighty King Kong attitude; with surprise I replied 'Stop I'm doing th event'  and moved foward a little bit to get my vehicle shot by everyone - So, once more I said 'leave me alone and come later, piss off, i'm doing the event'; Consequently due to theshooting, the car exploded, I got out to once again ask them to come after the event, and started to run in Traser direction or what not. To get shot down by all of them including Cyril, yes, lets not forget our rule enforcer was partaking this. So after so many failed attempts to stop this crazyness, I shot them when my Health Pool was bellow 35%.

As soon as they came and after I ask them to return after the event is over, I also reported it, that report was took by TeaM Arslan, when I asked him, he said he couldn't do anything because Cyril is higher than him.

Honorable mentions:
-Everyone knows I support RP, hence playing in strict RP servers.

-Everyone knows I support admins not taking so much actions in criminal RP, unless shooting without a reason is involved, so yes, if shooting is happening and a report follows if the admin is going to die I do support a freeze until the situation is clarified.

Source:
There's a simple solution to all of this.
Admins focus on the major rulebreaks; Hacking as an example, and whenever there's a sudden cry for help in /report, before bothering both sides, check if there's any DM listed on the chatlogs, and if there is, engage a conversation with the players to see why did he kill him. Spectate first to see if there's shooting going on so you can instantly freeze them, and ask your questions, just don't do anything if when you spectate only Roleplay is happening.

- The admin who took the report didn't do anything because a higher staff member was higher than him, so he could not act.

- Half of the server or more - According to Traser- was at Willowfield doing that event.



So here it is, a picture of me being cleared from suspection and asking them to come after the RP was over, and also them ignoring it.

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Anything here is a whole conversation through /pm between me and Cyril, accordingly to him everything seems fine.
Note his attitude through the whole /pm conversation, blatant provoke.

"Stop crying like a baby"
"You're pathetic, grow a pair"
^ Typical attitude of a person who ran out of arguments.

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So like I said, even after all those questions, I didn't get a straight answer, I also confirmed with Murt, and he said this should be concidered DM.
Also with CBF, at first he said it depended, thinking they were cops, when I told them it was civilians he said that this was not allowed, when I told him it was Cyril, his whole speech changed, hello?

[21:44:01] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): Hey Celeborn 

[21:44:07] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): hi

[21:44:08] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): I need a quick answer 

[21:44:13] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): From you. 

[21:44:15] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): try

[21:44:29] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): This is a RP server I get it, but forcing RP during events, is it alloed? 

[21:44:51] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): there is no straight answer for that

[21:45:27] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): I was doing an event and told them that I would comply after the event, they still shoot me dead 

[21:45:35] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): Is it allowed or not? 

[21:45:44] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): what was you not complying with ?

[21:45:54] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): 'PULL OVER' 

[21:46:02] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): and the event was ?

[21:46:13] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): I stopped the vehicle 'I'm doing the event, come after please' 

[21:46:23] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): while I was typing my car went from non smoking to dark smoking 

[21:46:34] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): as i said, what was the event ?

[21:46:58] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): Traser was in a spot, 'Find the briefcase next to me, and win 5k' 

[21:47:33] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): under that sort of event, laws still to be followed

[21:47:54] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): So I'm partaking in an admin event, they come aim at me, shoot me, I tell them to come after the event

[21:48:01] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): they kill me and that's allowed? 

[21:48:18] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): was you wanted ?

[21:48:31] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): I was not, I came online 5 minutes before that 

[21:49:07] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): so they uolled you over and shot or did you drive off and they shot ?

[21:49:28] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): Basically I was near Traser looking for the briefcase, they came in two cars. 

[21:49:37] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): 'Pull over' - 'Get out' 

[21:49:50] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): I told them, I was doing the event and I would RP after the event 

[21:50:06] PM to [

[21:50:17] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): And reported 'Ruining the event for me' 

[21:50:17] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): so this was cops or others ?

[21:50:31] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): Others, not cops since I was not suspect 

[21:51:10] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): And told them 'Guys do it after the event, and moved foward a bit, they shoot my car 

[21:51:10] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): ok others, that makes it more difficult, there is nothing to say they cannot do what they did

Tried to keep it clean, sorry if I deleted any sentence.

Also another two logs of two different occasions of me telling them I was doing the event, I'm sure there are more, but whatever I came across these while looking for the CBF chat.

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[21:12:07] Rafael_Gvardia(21) says: IM DOING THE f**cking EVENT

[21:12:11] Rafael_Gvardia(21) says: JESUS CHRIST

So my question is, what is he doing in the HQ still when he contradicts himself, and does what admins tell us players to not do it?

The only thing that I have to go against is the one about the casinos, sure you can claim its your territory when you don't own it, but you can not go around killing players for not leaving the casino even if you claim its your territory unless you actually own the property.

I'm also sure a lot around this forums, there are plenty of people who also said that regarding killing players who don't leave their car when asked to.

It's just a lame excuse,
'GET OUT OR WE SHOOT'
*Types something in chat
*Car gets on fire
*Dead.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 12:17:42 am
Hopefully we will have some high HQ response.

I'd like to see a Gandalf's post.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: eymas on April 11, 2015, 12:26:38 am
If you want gandalf's reply then it'd be best to send an email to [email protected].
Constantly making topics like these tend to derail due to arguments brought forth by other players giving only more pressure that might not even be related to the original situation.

Not to mention that you can report staff members using the fuction on the forum, for the situation you've provided: you can bring that up using the function for instance. It would save a mass of arguments or attacks to other players/staff members.

That is just my opinion though, past few days i've seen three topics (including this one) which ended up becoming +7 pages long in mere hours having a different topic in surprisingly the same global subject.

Not to be offensive either.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 11, 2015, 12:42:31 am
This topic is very interesting.  :v:
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Traser on April 11, 2015, 12:45:34 am
This topic is very interesting.  :v:

Your comment is not, have something constructive to say or don't reply at at all.

On topic: I will not reply as it's not up to me.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 12:49:09 am
What I find hilarious is the fact that you done the same thing to me yesterday. Now when you are on the other side you cause a shitstorm by making topics like these which we all know will never change anything.

Not only did you DM me, you DM'd a Corleone associate and AFAIK it is a cease-fire situation between the two groups. Be real, if I went to kill you wouldn't it make sense for the whole fucking San Fierro to come looking for me?

Stop moaning and move on.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 11, 2015, 12:50:12 am
I've always been against the idea that "events" are able to over power roleplay in general.

Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Yasko on April 11, 2015, 12:52:32 am
This topic is very interesting  :v:
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Sweeper on April 11, 2015, 12:56:42 am
These topics are a covered way of moaning.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Yasko on April 11, 2015, 12:57:58 am
If you want gandalf's reply then it'd be best to send an email to [email protected].
Constantly making topics like these tend to derail due to arguments brought forth by other players giving only more pressure that might not even be related to the original situation.

Not to mention that you can report staff members using the fuction on the forum, for the situation you've provided: you can bring that up using the function for instance. It would save a mass of arguments or attacks to other players/staff members.

That is just my opinion though, past few days i've seen three topics (including this one) which ended up becoming +7 pages long in mere hours having a different topic in surprisingly the same global subject.

Not to be offensive either.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 12:58:12 am
I've always been against the idea that "events" are able to over power roleplay in general.

Lets just wait for a high HQ response. Lets try to keep this one topic clean, please.

What I find hilarious is the fact that you done the same thing to me yesterday. Now when you are on the other side you cause a shitstorm by making topics like these which we all know will never change anything.

Not only did you DM me, you DM'd a Corleone associate and AFAIK it is a cease-fire situation between the two groups. Be real, if I went to kill you wouldn't it make sense for the whole f**cking San Fierro to come looking for me?

Stop moaning and move on.

Ok, there are some differences, but whatever floats your boat. - 'Lets just wait for a high HQ response. Lets try to keep this one topic clean, please.'

These topics are a covered way of moaning.

moaning 
Also found in: Idioms.
moan  (mōn)
n.
1.
a. A low, sustained, mournful cry, usually indicative of sorrow or pain.
b. A similar sound: the eerie moan of the night wind.
2. A complaint: his tiresome moans about his boss.

This is clearly a complaint, so yes, I'm moaning. Now, - ''Lets just wait for a high HQ response. Lets try to keep this one topic clean, please.'
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: [Rstar]Peter on April 11, 2015, 12:59:43 am
Peter"The King Kong"Corleone !
Sounds like a new nick :P thXxx
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Brian on April 11, 2015, 01:03:14 am
If you wanted to have this forwarded to only HQ you shouldn't have made a public post, public post means everyone can comment about the subject.
I do agree how ever that an event should not over rule role play, as Monte stated.
As for you being killed by Cyril, if you think he DMed you, report him at the report function and Devin will handle it.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Pandalink on April 11, 2015, 01:04:54 am
These topics are a covered way of moaning.
Replies like this are the same.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Sweeper on April 11, 2015, 01:09:34 am
Replies like this are the same.

Tell me.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 11, 2015, 01:44:55 am
Come on Teamspeak and talk to Devin or Rusty, the threads are useless.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 01:47:12 am
Come on Teamspeak and talk to Devin or Rusty, the threads are useless.

I'm heading offline, woud you kindly PM me on the forum with the IP please?

I'd appreciate that, Monte.
And surely tomorrow I'll join there.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: psyron on April 11, 2015, 01:51:05 am
well atleast we get the real picture of the people concerned.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 11, 2015, 01:51:26 am
I'm heading offline, woud you kindly PM me on the forum with the IP please?

I'd appreciate that, Monte.
And surely tomorrow I'll join there.

ts.argorpg.com


You can come discuss your issues with me and I will mediate between two parties.
I'd say this would be the best course of action.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Teddy on April 11, 2015, 06:28:24 am
It's just a lame excuse,
'GET OUT OR WE SHOOT'
*Types something in chat
*Car gets on fire
*Dead.

TRUTH.

It is such a degraded form of R.... can't even call it RP.... but it's something sickening that we've come to conclude as acceptable and it's fucking wrong. If it were my choice anyone who did this would be perm banned on the spot. Fuck them.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 06:33:25 am
The loads of unban requests and posts blaming others for their excuse for roleplay will follow.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Teddy on April 11, 2015, 06:37:47 am
The loads of unban requests and posts blaming others for their excuse for roleplay will follow.
Fuck them.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Rick. on April 11, 2015, 06:43:41 am
Tell me.
What do you want him to tell you? His reply was straight forward and understandable.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Manas on April 11, 2015, 07:27:48 am
It's just a lame excuse,
'GET OUT OR WE SHOOT'
*Types something in chat
*Car gets on fire
*Dead.

This is what this particular higher level manager want to impart to the coming generations of RPers.
On the other hand, events must not interfere in roleplay situations.

Do you know what we call such people?
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 08:42:14 am
This is what this particular higher level manager want to impart to the coming generations of RPers.
On the other hand, events must not interfere in roleplay situations.

Do you know what we call such people?
 :rofl:

Don't bother trying to use what I said in your post when you have no idea why it was said. It makes you look foolish.
Not to mention how out of context you have taken the quote which was about what I call those that are on this community to ruin other players fun in-game.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kostas on April 11, 2015, 09:05:15 am
I've always been against the idea that "events" are able to over power roleplay in general.
Same here. Though fact is that at the current state they are able to do that... Also about escaping or dying from your suspection... please don't expect that to be enough to stop a follow up roleplay. Having said that you clearly have a great point here. My question is... what was their response after you said that you were heading to the event? Also sorry dude... been where you are many times, this topic won't belp...
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 09:28:26 am
I don't understand what is all the moaning about?
This is criminal life, what do you expect? You broke a cease fire and are riding in our territory.
When we roleplayed, the only thing you did was telling us to "piss off" as you were busy. This is not how we play in a roleplay server.
Then you started ramming our vehicles as you were boxed in and tried to escape.
It's pretty normal you die doing this.. You are openly challenging the most powerful mafia of Los Santos.

Next time if you don't want to roleplay don't bother connecting to the server.
You guys are good at making topic how people should stop reporting for everything to avoid roleplay yet you are doing it.
If you can't handle the criminal life, please find yourself another group.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 09:32:04 am
Same here. Though fact is that at the current state they are able to do that... Also about escaping or dying from your suspection... please don't expect that to be enough to stop a follow up roleplay. Having said that you clearly have a great point here. My question is... what was their response after you said that you were heading to the event? Also sorry dude... been where you are many times, this topic won't belp...

At the end of the day it comes down to people not wanting to lose a single dollar. It's a case of what do you have to lose.
People don't want to roleplay with someone if it means they may lose money, or may get into a situation where they can't win.

In essence it is greed that is the problem. For some reason the only thing people care about is making money and taking money from others over actually roleplaying.
For example with what you said about escaping or dying, most players will rather escape and not roleplay and safe a few dollars over roleplaying, interacting with others and maybe losing some money.

Perhaps if we could removed the element of money from the server people would see things differently and had a different form of currency.

People need to understand that you can't win every time, you win some and you lose some.
Who cares about losing some numbers on a game whilst being involved in some roleplay in the process?
If we can eliminate the concept that "money is life" from the server we would see people more willing to actually roleplay with others over running away from every chance to roleplay because "he su abused me and stole my money!!!"
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 10:29:10 am
Same here. Though fact is that at the current state they are able to do that... Also about escaping or dying from your suspection... please don't expect that to be enough to stop a follow up roleplay. Having said that you clearly have a great point here. My question is... what was their response after you said that you were heading to the event? Also sorry dude... been where you are many times, this topic won't belp...

I wasn't heading to the event, I was in the event. Their answer was my car on fire.

I don't understand what is all the moaning about?
This is criminal life, what do you expect? You broke a cease fire and are riding in our territory.
When we roleplayed, the only thing you did was telling us to "piss off" as you were busy. This is not how we play in a roleplay server.
Then you started ramming our vehicles as you were boxed in and tried to escape.
It's pretty normal you die doing this.. You are openly challenging the most powerful mafia of Los Santos.

Next time if you don't want to roleplay don't bother connecting to the server.
You guys are good at making topic how people should stop reporting for everything to avoid roleplay yet you are doing it.
If you can't handle the criminal life, please find yourself another group.

So, I never refused to Roleplay; I simply asked you to 'piss over and come after the event'. I wouldn't mind RP with you.
Second, so according to you, if there are events going in Los Santos, I can't partake in them because it's Corleone territory hence I'll get killed? - Really? - Can't say if I should cry or laugh at this point.
Criminal life? Boy you were on top of Ben and I was already a Criminal, I'm pretty sure I can handle it, I just can't handle such autistm in the server.
Couldn't you tell me 'No! We're doing this now, forget the event', instead of blatantly shooting my vehicle?

'Get out of the car or banmg bang' - 10/10 Roleplay, do you really wanna discuss Roleplay with me? Lol'd.

There was an event going on, which I clearly told you, once again, partaking in, and told you to come after.

So from now on, according to our mighty manager, we can kidnap in DDs guys, we don't need to chase anyone, just wait for a DD to be organized, because if they didn't want to RP, they shouldn't have connected.

GG 10/10 inl2p

At the end of the day it comes down to people not wanting to lose a single dollar. It's a case of what do you have to lose.
People don't want to roleplay with someone if it means they may lose money, or may get into a situation where they can't win.

In essence it is greed that is the problem. For some reason the only thing people care about is making money and taking money from others over actually roleplaying.
For example with what you said about escaping or dying, most players will rather escape and not roleplay and safe a few dollars over roleplaying, interacting with others and maybe losing some money.

Perhaps if we could removed the element of money from the server people would see things differently and had a different form of currency.

People need to understand that you can't win every time, you win some and you lose some.
Who cares about losing some numbers on a game whilst being involved in some roleplay in the process?
If we can eliminate the concept that "money is life" from the server we would see people more willing to actually roleplay with others over running away from every chance to roleplay because "he su abused me and stole my money!!!"

You know me for ages, and you also know that I don't care. I like to RP, and you know it since you've been in groups with me.
And I'm pretty sure you know where I'm aiming this topic and why.

Also, Devin, like I mentioned before, I was willing to RP after the event, but nothing was said, just blatant shooting to my vehicle.

And yes, Cyril, I moved foward a bit, I never got to the point of ramming,  lmao, specially because my car got sent across the universe with your super RP'd takes out Combat Shotgun from anal cavity.
Talk about Roleplay, right? xDdddddd


PS: Devin, if I join TS later will you kindly speak with me?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 10:32:30 am
(http://hiddenlol.com/img/emotes/BabyRage.png)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Stivi on April 11, 2015, 10:34:25 am
I don't understand what is all the moaning about?
This is criminal life, what do you expect? You broke a cease fire and are riding in our territory.
When we roleplayed, the only thing you did was telling us to "piss off" as you were busy. This is not how we play in a roleplay server.
Then you started ramming our vehicles as you were boxed in and tried to escape.
It's pretty normal you die doing this.. You are openly challenging the most powerful mafia of Los Santos.

Next time if you don't want to roleplay don't bother connecting to the server.
You guys are good at making topic how people should stop reporting for everything to avoid roleplay yet you are doing it.
If you can't handle the criminal life, please find yourself another group.
:lol: Why are you still on the "criminal life" then ? I'm sure there's still a SAPD rank only for you.

If this was a RP server, why do we have events ? Would any gangster ( GSF Traser ) in RL place five grand in a briefcase and hide it, then tell it's location ?

Events are in the server for fun. By shooting a guy, who clearly was participating in the event, as he told you, you are ruining his fun and gameplay time. Don't be that guy who ruins other's gameplay, no one likes it.
If you want to do that, I'm sure you can organize it in paruni server.
Everyone is here to have fun.



If Rafael wasn't going to an event, and just used it as a LAME excuse to avoid RPing, and I was a manager, I would not only blast him 4 times in a row, but also punish him for it.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 10:50:28 am
(http://hiddenlol.com/img/emotes/BabyRage.png)

Typical.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on April 11, 2015, 10:51:26 am
Some people really need to grow a pair, accept the fact they made a mistake and take responsibility about that...
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: CBFasi on April 11, 2015, 11:03:19 am
So like I said, even after all those questions, I didn't get a straight answer, I also confirmed with Murt, and he said this should be concidered DM.
Also with CBF, at first he said it depended, thinking they were cops, when I told them it was civilians he said that this was not allowed, when I told him it was Cyril, his whole speech changed, hello?

[21:44:01] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): Hey Celeborn 

[21:44:07] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): hi

[21:44:08] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): I need a quick answer 

[21:44:13] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): From you. 

[21:44:15] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): try

[21:44:29] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): This is a RP server I get it, but forcing RP during events, is it alloed? 

[21:44:51] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): there is no straight answer for that

[21:45:27] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): I was doing an event and told them that I would comply after the event, they still shoot me dead 

[21:45:35] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): Is it allowed or not? 

[21:45:44] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): what was you not complying with ?

[21:45:54] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): 'PULL OVER' 

[21:46:02] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): and the event was ?

[21:46:13] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): I stopped the vehicle 'I'm doing the event, come after please' 

[21:46:23] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): while I was typing my car went from non smoking to dark smoking 

[21:46:34] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): as i said, what was the event ?

[21:46:58] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): Traser was in a spot, 'Find the briefcase next to me, and win 5k' 

[21:47:33] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): under that sort of event, laws still to be followed

[21:47:54] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): So I'm partaking in an admin event, they come aim at me, shoot me, I tell them to come after the event

[21:48:01] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): they kill me and that's allowed? 

[21:48:18] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): was you wanted ?

[21:48:31] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): I was not, I came online 5 minutes before that 

[21:49:07] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): so they uolled you over and shot or did you drive off and they shot ?

[21:49:28] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): Basically I was near Traser looking for the briefcase, they came in two cars. 

[21:49:37] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): 'Pull over' - 'Get out' 

[21:49:50] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): I told them, I was doing the event and I would RP after the event 

[21:50:06] PM to [

[21:50:17] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): And reported 'Ruining the event for me' 

[21:50:17] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): so this was cops or others ?

[21:50:31] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): Others, not cops since I was not suspect 

[21:51:10] PM to [Rstar]CBFasi(23): And told them 'Guys do it after the event, and moved foward a bit, they shoot my car 

[21:51:10] PM from [Rstar]CBFasi(23): ok others, that makes it more difficult, there is nothing to say they cannot do what they did


I think if you read what I said you will find that .... when I told them it was civilians he said that this was not allowed, was NEVER said, I did not say it was NOT ALLOWED.

In fact the last line of the above spoiler is the most important ...

The fact Cyril was part of it is irrelevant and I did not change my thought process
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Jeremy. on April 11, 2015, 11:59:16 am
Some people really need to grow a pair, accept the fact they made a mistake and take responsibility about that...

Word up. ^^
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Pandalink on April 11, 2015, 12:05:41 pm
Cyril if you find that level of engagement enough before opening fire, can you please pass that down the line to the other admins? I've got guys getting warned for less because the admin said we didn't "/me" roleplay drawing and loading our guns explicitly enough, in a situation we frankly got maliciously revenge reported for (the other guys lost the fight and were mad).

The next day my guys get murdered in the street by the same enemy with no RP at all and a different admin says it's fine. It's confusing. :neutral2:
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 12:09:41 pm
the admin said we didn't "/me" roleplay drawing and loading our guns explicitly enough

No one has never been forced to use /me... No point to use /me if you can already see it ingame.
Feel free to send a report if someone told you to use /me
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on April 11, 2015, 12:20:03 pm
No one has never been forced to use /me... No point to use /me if you can already see it ingame.
Feel free to send a report if someone told you to use /me

So if I, for example, am hired to assassinate you and just come to you, pull my gun out, shoot and drive away...That would not be considered deathmatching? You did see me pull up infront of you, gun in hand, I shot you and drove away :/
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 12:22:27 pm
So if I, for example, am hired to assassinate you and just come to you, pull my gun out, shoot and drive away...That would not be considered deathmatching? You did see me pull up infront of you, gun in hand, I shot you and drove away :/

He still needs to know the reason why he is going to die aswell as let him a chance to take part in the roleplay.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: LoHi on April 11, 2015, 12:40:35 pm
I also wandered in to one of these situations yesterday. A group of people were beating someone up, blocking the road, and when I stop in front of them (because I can't just drive over them either), they simply point their guns at me and assault my car with knifes? Great RP, 10/10. I'm glad there was an admin looking over the situation. :rolleyes:

http://a.pomf.se/pfyluc.webm
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 12:45:53 pm
He still needs to know the reason why he is going to die aswell as let him a chance to take part in the roleplay.

So your RP reason is?
Me being in LS doing an event?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Lustigkurre on April 11, 2015, 12:49:22 pm
So if I, for example, am hired to assassinate you and just come to you, pull my gun out, shoot and drive away...That would not be considered deathmatching? You did see me pull up infront of you, gun in hand, I shot you and drove away :/

The animations are underrated. In my book I would have no problems with a scenario like that. It's silly to have to write everything you do when the animations clearly shows it. People should pay more attention to movements and reading situations without actually have to read a silly /me or /em line.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 12:49:58 pm
I also wandered in to one of these situations yesterday. A group of people were beating someone up, blocking the road, and when I stop in front of them (because I can't just drive over them either), they simply point their guns at me and assault my car with knifes? Great RP, 10/10. I'm glad there was an admin looking over the situation. :rolleyes:

http://a.pomf.se/pfyluc.webm

Good that you recorded it.
We can know all admire your roleplay skills.
It's obviously totally normal to drive up a group of mafia beating up someone in the street and acting tough..
We can see multiple attempts of roleplay with you from all members, yet you just ignore them and stay in your car like nothing happens.
As the results, everyone moved away from you as don't upholds the standards of roleplay we expecting to encounter in our server.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 12:50:19 pm
I also wandered in to one of these situations yesterday. A group of people were beating someone up, blocking the road, and when I stop in front of them (because I can't just drive over them either), they simply point their guns at me and assault my car with knifes? Great RP, 10/10. I'm glad there was an admin looking over the situation. :rolleyes:

http://a.pomf.se/pfyluc.webm

You drive up to a group of people clearly assaulting someone in the middle of the street, you can see they have weapons and your first instinct is to tell them to move so you can drive past?
It makes no sense. Anyone that saw that ahead of them would take another route to avoid being involved in a bloodbath.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Andeey on April 11, 2015, 12:50:59 pm
i think some people fail to see this is a "light RP server" not STRICT
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Hamza_Khan on April 11, 2015, 12:54:36 pm
I also wandered in to one of these situations yesterday. A group of people were beating someone up, blocking the road, and when I stop in front of them (because I can't just drive over them either), they simply point their guns at me and assault my car with knifes? Great RP, 10/10. I'm glad there was an admin looking over the situation. :rolleyes:

http://a.pomf.se/pfyluc.webm
LOL actually your response was cool too, No Gun Fear while you were unarmed.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Rei on April 11, 2015, 12:55:57 pm
I also wandered in to one of these situations yesterday. A group of people were beating someone up, blocking the road, and when I stop in front of them (because I can't just drive over them either), they simply point their guns at me and assault my car with knifes? Great RP, 10/10. I'm glad there was an admin looking over the situation. :rolleyes:

http://a.pomf.se/pfyluc.webm

I don't see anything wrong with it?
Exept your attitude.

Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 12:56:04 pm
i think some people fail to see this is a "light RP server" not STRICT

Yes, it's not a strict roleplay server as we don't enforce all the bullshit stuff from other servers such as powergaming, metagaming, IC/OOC..
Yet in the rules there is "This is a roleplay server, please stay within decent realms of roleplay."
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 12:57:43 pm
So your RP reason is?
Me being in LS doing an event?

@Cyril
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 12:59:24 pm
@Cyril

The reason we came to you was you killed one of our member and got caught by CCTV's, hence we identified you and came to you to roleplay.
But you thought it was better to ram us and tell us to piss off.
You had your chance in the roleplay, you chose to escape, you died.
Make better choices next time.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Andeey on April 11, 2015, 01:00:45 pm
All i can seem to See in this topic is a player who got angry about something that happened ingame, then came to forums to argue to try get a new rules put in place, "Attention seeking"
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 01:00:58 pm
The reason we came to you was you killed one of our member and got caught by CCTV's, hence we identified you and came to you to roleplay.
But you thought it was better to ram us and tell us to piss off.
You had your chance in the roleplay, you chose to escape, you died.
Make better choices next time.

Lock the topic please, this is the reality behind the topic.  :app:
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 01:07:55 pm
Basically I joined the server, to find myself suspected for 'killing Kaze', I drove for two minutes around San Fierro, and lost my suspection, and according to the new rule, I'm no longer part of that Roleplay, regardless.

Source:
Someone who escapes is no longer on the run and has the obligation to leave those still in the roleplay.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: LoHi on April 11, 2015, 01:08:17 pm
Good that you recorded it.
We can know all admire your roleplay skills.
It's obviously totally normal to drive up a group of mafia beating up someone in the street and acting tough..
We can see multiple attempts of roleplay with you from all members, yet you just ignore them and stay in your car like nothing happens.
As the results, everyone moved away from you as don't upholds the standards of roleplay we expecting to encounter in our server.
You drive up to a group of people clearly assaulting someone in the middle of the street, you can see they have weapons and your first instinct is to tell them to move so you can drive past?
It makes no sense. Anyone that saw that ahead of them would take another route to avoid being involved in a bloodbath.

All I see is a group of people attempting to gain suspection status by "RPing" and then killing anyone who dares to stop, when they themselves block the road. Especially if this happened to multiple people (you can see that the person in the webm is, in fact, not Rafael). The only punishment for someone you know is killing them.

Yes, yes, I know being chased by the police is really fun.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 01:12:00 pm
All i can seem to See in this topic is a player who got angry about something that happened ingame, then came to forums to argue to try get a new rules put in place, "Attention seeking"

New rules? Indeed I also have a topic about it as well, apparently Gandalf wants it to enforce it. So I'm sure, like I said in the main topic, the fact that I killed Kaze has nothing to do with this, I lost suspection, I'm no longer linked to that RP.

Plus, if you read the prints of me and Cyril talking I also said what I just told to you, and he replied 'New RP'.

Then again it brings us, to what he said about me 'coming to LS which is ruled by big Mafia Corleone lelel too bad'

If so, how are they taking this as a RP reason, when I only went there to partake the event?

Cyril really needs to decide what was the reason, so we can focus in which of the two rules he broke and supported.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 01:12:14 pm
If you escape it means you are no longer a part of the roleplay with the other criminals (if you're in a car with other suspects), look at Gandalfs post in context of the rest of his message.
You escaped from police custody, so what? You're still the person that killed their friend. It doesn't mean that is over. Those group members are still going to hunt you down.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 01:12:47 pm
All I see is a group of people attempting to gain suspection status by "RPing" and then killing anyone who dares to stop, when they themselves block the road. Especially if this happened to multiple people (you can see that the person in the webm is, in fact, not Rafael). The only punishment for someone you know is killing them.

Yes, yes, I know being chased by the police is really fun.

You might want to open your eyes then.
We already dealt with cops before you arrived and they left the scene as we were doing nothing wrong.
We were dealing with Bogomil in a roleplay scene and he chose to fight a 1v1.
No one that stopped or didn't stop was killed.
Before talking non sense, get your facts straight.

All we have seen from you is your inability to roleplay or at least uphold a decent realms of roleplay.
This is the only fact here and everyone can see it thanks to the video you made.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 01:16:03 pm
If you escape it means you are no longer a part of the roleplay with the other criminals (if you're in a car with other suspects), look at Gandalfs post in context of the rest of his message.
You escaped from police custody, so what? You're still the person that killed their friend. It doesn't mean that is over. Those group members are still going to hunt you down.

Basically within a week, Kaze was in Gvardia, opened his own group, went to Stracci, tried to join Sforza, etc... How in the hell was I supposed to know now he is with Corleone?

Specially when Corleone allies were helping me without any mention about him being with Corleone? He doesn't even uses a tag, so I'm supposed to go through /groupmemebers to every single group I want to interact with other player?

Also, since when a group claiming territory means the whole fucking city?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Hamza_Khan on April 11, 2015, 01:16:28 pm
All I see is a group of people attempting to gain suspection status by "RPing" and then killing anyone who dares to stop, when they themselves block the road. Especially if this happened to multiple people (you can see that the person in the webm is, in fact, not Rafael). The only punishment for someone you know is killing them.

Yes, yes, I know being chased by the police is really fun.
You don't even know what you are taking about, Is that the case, then every roleplay which starts by any criminal can be taken as he is just doing for suspection and having fun in the server as cops will chase him and then probably the situation will end like cops getting killed or criminal and you are absolutely wrong here, Just trying  to show the bad face of Criminals here.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 01:17:59 pm
Also, since when a group claiming territory means the whole f**cking city?

Ask Gvardia, they do/did the same for SF.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 01:20:11 pm
Basically within a week, Kaze was in Gvardia, opened his own group, went to Stracci, tried to join Sforza, etc... How in the hell was I supposed to know now he is with Corleone?

Specially when Corleone allies were helping me without any mention about him being with Corleone? He doesn't even uses a tag, so I'm supposed to go through /groupmemebers to every single group I want to interact with other player?

Also, since when a group claiming territory means the whole f**cking city?

Why are you now changing the subject of why you were killed to how are you meant to know what group he is associated with?
Sure people may be associated with a group and you don't even know about it, but your actions may come back to haunt you when you decide to kill players.
Be those players in groups or just friends with groups.

They're not claiming a city as if it is theirs, they just say they run the city as other groups do with the other cities.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 01:25:41 pm
New rules? Indeed I also have a topic about it as well, apparently Gandalf wants it to enforce it. So I'm sure, like I said in the main topic, the fact that I killed Kaze has nothing to do with this, I lost suspection, I'm no longer linked to that RP.

You are actually one smart person.. I'll give you that.

When you DM'd me, you /q'd to avoid punishment as you knew that was blatant DM.
When you logged back in, you spawned at Queens. How can you be IN the event? Queens is next door to Ocean Docks yeah!

I fail to understand how you, being a criminal for ages, do not understand the concept of 'getting back' at the guy that killed your guy. We didn't have plans to kill you but your attitude pushed us too far. In addition, like I mentioned before, you killed me the same way as they killed you. Double standards my nigga, double standards.

And yes.. /groups before you interact with anyone that does not have a tag. That's your own fault for causing this CMvsGvardia war. As for the situation itself, you have been acting very disrespectful towards ever since I left Gvardia and you don't even know why. You have been targeting me ever since I left Gvardia, I guess you are just too trigger happy. I told you numerous times that I ''CK'd'' myself just so I don't have to go through the process and roleplay with an ignorant person like you.

Carry on this attitude of yours, it doesn't affect me. It just makes you look stupid.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: LoHi on April 11, 2015, 01:29:36 pm
I guess at this point it's fair to ask for a complete write-up of the rules we are supposed to follow. We are just supposed to know them, and people quoting old forum posts of Gandalf here just proves that currently people just need to learn the rules the wrong way.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: CharlieKasper on April 11, 2015, 01:36:55 pm
I also wandered in to one of these situations yesterday. A group of people were beating someone up, blocking the road, and when I stop in front of them (because I can't just drive over them either), they simply point their guns at me and assault my car with knifes? Great RP, 10/10. I'm glad there was an admin looking over the situation. :rolleyes:

http://a.pomf.se/pfyluc.webm
5/10 for attempt. Dismissed.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 01:37:15 pm
I guess at this point it's fair to ask for a complete write-up of the rules we are supposed to follow. We are just supposed to know them, and people quoting old forum posts of Gandalf here just proves that currently people just need to learn the rules the wrong way.

How in your mind did you see what they are doing in the video you recorded as rulebreaking? They interacted with you, you literally drove up to them and told them to move whilst you can see they are all armed.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 01:39:19 pm
You are actually one smart person.. I'll give you that.

When you DM'd me, you /q'd to avoid punishment as you knew that was blatant DM.
When you logged back in, you spawned at Queens. How can you be IN the event? Queens is next door to Ocean Docks yeah!

I fail to understand how you, being a criminal for ages, do not understand the concept of 'getting back' at the guy that killed your guy. We didn't have plans to kill you but your attitude pushed us too far. In addition, like I mentioned before, you killed me the same way as they killed you. Double standards my nigga, double standards.

And yes.. /groups before you interact with anyone that does not have a tag. That's your own fault for causing this CMvsGvardia war. As for the situation itself, you have been acting very disrespectful towards ever since I left Gvardia and you don't even know why. You have been targeting me ever since I left Gvardia, I guess you are just too trigger happy. I told you numerous times that I ''CK'd'' myself just so I don't have to go through the process and roleplay with an ignorant person like you.

DM'd you? I gave you plenty of time to RP and you were RP'ing, was when Bessa RP shoot your leg, that you saw that your situation was not going to your own advantage, after you tackled me and like I said he shot your leg, that you went all like '/em I won't comply with this, I refuse to Roleplay' and started to jump away, Bessa and Ivo shot you, and so did I. I got the kill.

I lost suspect and drove to Willowfield, I have no idea why was that Queen/Ocean Docks comment even relevant. I made that clear on the first post.

I did not /q right after, I spoke to Arslan drove all the way to SF drove around it, he told me to avoid RP'ing with you because you don't like me', I agreed with him, and told RP'ing between us would be called off, hopefully he can come here and certify this. Yet, you decide that now that you're with CM, you want to RP with me and send them after me? Lolwat

Yes, it's not a strict roleplay server as we don't enforce all the bullshit stuff from other servers such as powergaming, metagaming, IC/OOC..

Here. To your 'CK' related comment. @Kaze



Why are you now changing the subject of why you were killed to how are you meant to know what group he is associated with?
Sure people may be associated with a group and you don't even know about it, but your actions may come back to haunt you when you decide to kill players.
Be those players in groups or just friends with groups.

They're not claiming a city as if it is theirs, they just say they run the city as other groups do with the other cities.

Still doesn't change the fact I got killed because I went into a city to attend to an event. - You can read in the prints that Cyril told me that he was not doing what he did because of Kaze. Now he does because it is convinient.

Secondly, like I said, he has been in more groups in 1 week than I was since 2009. So that's just a faulty excuse for this whole situation. Which is irrelevant, but still relevant.

Ask Gvardia, they do/did the same for SF.

Gvardia currently claim Chinatown and Queens in San Fierro, and we do own most of the buildings in that area to back it as territory.

In fact, it's always been like that, since 2009.

Stracci had Vinewood;
Araatus Commerce;
Gvardia Queens;
GSF Grove/Ganton;
R9 Idlewood;
Diablos Ocen Flats;
Ancelotti Avispa;
Corleone Verdant Bluffs / Conference.

We fought to enter their turfs, no group claimed a whole city, ever.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: LoHi on April 11, 2015, 01:40:20 pm
How in your mind did you see what they are doing in the video you recorded as rulebreaking? They interacted with you, you literally drove up to them and told them to move whilst you can see they are all armed.

The post you quoted has nothing to do with the video.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Mr. Goobii on April 11, 2015, 01:45:25 pm
I just got lunch by my lovely mother; egg and bacon!
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 01:46:57 pm
I just got lunch by my lovely mother; egg and bacon!

Nice. I hope you enjoy it
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 02:00:10 pm
I did not /q right after, I spoke to Arslan drove all the way to SF drove around it, he told me to avoid RP'ing with you because you don't like me', I agreed with him, and told RP'ing between us would be called off, hopefully he can come here and certify this. Yet, you decide that now that you're with CM, you want to RP with me and send them after me? Lolwat

Oh save the bullshit, I was semi-afk at market hospital then I see you and your buddy pull over ahead of me shouting on the top of his lungs to get out of the car with the combat. I then called the boys to come handle the situation. After it has been handled, I went AFK and came back to see you all spraying my car.

What happened to the ramming in Chinatown? You think I forgot? You and your squad rammed me for no RP reason at all. No roleplay involved at all. You clearly have got a problem with me so let it be with only me. Don't make topics like this when things don't go your way. As I said before, Karma is a bitch.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 02:07:03 pm
The post you quoted has nothing to do with the video.

Care to answer my question in regards to the video anyway?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: LoHi on April 11, 2015, 02:10:02 pm
How in your mind did you see what they are doing in the video you recorded as rulebreaking? They interacted with you, you literally drove up to them and told them to move whilst you can see they are all armed.
Care to answer my question in regards to the video anyway?

They interacted with me by simply typing a few lines that allow them to assault me.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 02:12:14 pm
It's called roleplay, you type lines to say things and if necessary explain your actions with /me if you want to...  :v:
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: LoHi on April 11, 2015, 02:13:39 pm
It's called roleplay, you type lines to say things and if necessary explain your actions with /me if you want to...  :v:

Well no shit? They only did the minimum to allow them to assault me.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 02:16:07 pm
They asked you to leave, instead you sat there in your car telling them to move out of the way, of course they will assault you/your vehicle if you come along interfering with their matters that they are handling in the street.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Hady. on April 11, 2015, 02:17:25 pm
They interacted with me by simply typing a few lines that allow them to assault me.
Dude-.. It's obvious you came out of nowhere to annoy us, Why didn't you take the other side of the road? Ehh.. Also, You started recording before reaching to the scene which is a poor attempt to drag us into troubles. As I've mentioned before, You could avoid us.. But you didn't.. I will ask you kindly to stop those silly posts and mind your own business.

Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: LoHi on April 11, 2015, 02:22:52 pm
They asked you to leave, instead you sat there in your car telling them to move out of the way, of course they will assault you/your vehicle if you come along interfering with their matters that they are handling in the street.

Yeah, they tell me to "Piss off" and "Get the fuck around from here or i will rape you" with all of them surrounding my car, aiming guns at me, instead of a single person coming to explain that unfortunately the road is blocked, and that I will have to find another way around, as to not draw much suspicion on to their activities, which I believe, is what a mafia should be doing?


Dude-.. It's obvious you came out of nowhere to annoy us, Why didn't you take the other side of the road? Ehh.. Also, You started recording before reaching to the scene which is a poor attempt to drag us into troubles. As I've mentioned before, You could avoid us.. But you didn't.. I will ask you kindly to stop those silly posts and mind your own business.

Yeah, maybe I wanted to interact with a group of people, believing that MAYBE they wouldn't just straight out assault me, having an admin with them? I was streaming last night, so that has nothing to do with it. And don't blame me for "silly posts" when Devin himself demands that I answer his questions.


I guess at this point it's fair to ask for a complete write-up of the rules we are supposed to follow. We are just supposed to know them, and people quoting old forum posts of Gandalf here just proves that currently people just need to learn the rules the wrong way.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 02:26:17 pm
It looks like you are also unable to handle things when it doesn't go your way... (http://hiddenlol.com/img/emotes/BabyRage.png)
 
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: danipoz on April 11, 2015, 02:29:19 pm
@LoHi  I don't see anything wrong in that video.. and how Robert said you could drive on the other side of the road, but you choosed to go where they are.And now you are moaning about your "provokation" or how should i call it.. 
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 02:30:59 pm
Yeah, they tell me to "Piss off" and "Get the fuck around from here or i will rape you" with all of them surrounding my car, aiming guns at me, instead of a single person coming to explain that unfortunately the road is blocked, and that I will have to find another way around, as to not draw much suspicion on to their activities, which I believe, is what a mafia should be doing?

Have you never seen someone cursing or being vulgar in roleplay before? They were acting as they should for a mafia to intimidate others. I really see nothing wrong with their actions.
Any other group could have just shot you the minute you told them to move, instead the only person that actually assaulted your vehicle had a knife.
They just killed someone in the streets infront of you, I somehow doubt they're trying to stay under the radar at that point in time.

And I did not demand an answer, I simply wanted to see your perspective on the matter as it seems you don't think that was roleplay so you came here saying "Great RP 10/10" to try and start a situation.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Stivi on April 11, 2015, 02:53:15 pm
Why assault someone in the middle of the street ? Mafia...



Devin, you can see Cyril's actions in that video. I find that to be non-RP and makes me vomit when I have to encounter with him. Looks like TiMoN's RP ( no offence ), but he's banned now.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 02:59:05 pm
Why roleplay? Mafia...

Why ask questions that don't need answers? Perhaps they caught the guy and stopped his vehicle over there, took him out of it and dealt with him right there on a quiet street until someone came along.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 03:03:33 pm
Oh save the bullshit, I was semi-afk at market hospital then I see you and your buddy pull over ahead of me shouting on the top of his lungs to get out of the car with the combat. I then called the boys to come handle the situation. After it has been handled, I went AFK and came back to see you all spraying my car.

What happened to the ramming in Chinatown? You think I forgot? You and your squad rammed me for no RP reason at all. No roleplay involved at all. You clearly have got a problem with me so let it be with only me. Don't make topics like this when things don't go your way. As I said before, Karma is a bad girl.

Bessa went.
I went to help him when you got out aiming at him. I was never aiming at you in the first place. Then you threatned me and Left. You drove off, we chased you. And you went AFK as soon as we got close enough. We reported that dont you worry. Hence Arslan knowing we tried to RP when you came back. He was spectating.

Chinatown? You mean when we were in our territory and you came there provoking? BE glad we didnt kill you. Hence you would be crying about DM instead.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Stivi on April 11, 2015, 03:10:55 pm
Why roleplay? Mafia...

Why ask questions that don't need answers? Perhaps they caught the guy and stopped his vehicle over there, took him out of it and dealt with him right there on a quiet street until someone came along.
In about 50 seconds two guys drove there.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 03:11:52 pm
In about 50 seconds two guys drove there.

And who cares? Oh no someone drove past its not roleplay anymore. What is your problem?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 03:13:19 pm
Bessa went.
I went to help him when you got out aiming at him. I was never aiming at you in the first place. Then you threatned me and Left. You drove off, we chased you. And you went AFK as soon as we got close enough. We reported that dont you worry. Hence Arslan knowing we tried to RP when you came back. He was spectating.

Chinatown? You mean when we were in our territory and you came there provoking? BE glad we didnt kill you. Hence you would be crying about DM instead.

You were with Bessa, you were involved. Period. Let me get this straight.. you would sit there like a statue if some random guy comes pointing a weapon at you? Please.. and as I said previously during the time I have been Semi-AFK so don't play that bullshit card.

I was evading cops, and we both know cops are lazy to head over to San Fierro so I just passed through chinatown. Cofi called me back to troll about joining Sforza.. stayed for a minute then I was on my way to evade from the police. You and your friends thought it was funny to constantly be ramming me with no roleplay to it whatsoever.

If I haven't made it clear already.. no one is the community will ever out troll Daco. You guys are peasants compared to him. Please stop trying as it just makes you look stupid.



I'm pretty sure the whole community would like to know this tension I have with Rafael. I had a disagreement with Antonio like a week ago where I proved him wrong. He banned me on CB and exchanged a couple of words. Due to the way he dealt with the situation, I was no happy hence why I left Gvardia. Since I left, Rafael has shown ultimate disrespect towards me. I'm obviously dealing with it by laughing it off but he thinks his 'trolling' is affecting me. Weird how you turn from friend to foe in a space of a week over some bullshit argument you weren't part off. So yeah, that's pretty much a summary of what's going on.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=111004.0 - What happened to this? Brushed that off aside like it's a fly.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Stivi on April 11, 2015, 03:15:27 pm
Oh and by the way, I see copbaiting in that video.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 03:17:22 pm
Oh and by the way, I see copbaiting in that video.

Copbaiting in a situation involving no cops. I see bullshit in your recent posts and that's about it.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Stivi on April 11, 2015, 03:19:13 pm
Copbaiting in a situation involving no cops. I see bullshit in your recent posts and that's about it.
Look closer.

Both Mario_Marinov and [Rstar]Cyril shoot to get the last hit, hence get suspected. Why would someone want to get suspected, huh ?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Hady. on April 11, 2015, 03:22:44 pm
Look closer.

Both Mario_Marinov and [Rstar]Cyril shoot to get the last hit, hence get suspected. Why would someone want to get suspected, huh ?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/351zw8w.jpg)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 03:23:43 pm
Look closer.

Both Mario_Marinov and [Rstar]Cyril shoot to get the last hit, hence get suspected. Why would someone want to get suspected, huh ?

You clearly didn't read the chat at all.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 03:24:02 pm
Look closer.

Both Mario_Marinov and [Rstar]Cyril shoot to get the last hit, hence get suspected. Why would someone want to get suspected, huh ?

Mind to stop posting non sense?
Mario shot while the guy was already dead since 2 seconds and I aimed 6-8 seconds later without firing a single bullet. We totally want to get suspected.
Another cool story you would like to tell us?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Antonio. on April 11, 2015, 03:27:57 pm
Ask Gvardia, they do/did the same for SF.
We never restricted a group of people from entering San Fierro. If we were in a gang war with our enemies and they were spotted near our territory, they were confronted, which is normal.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 03:34:45 pm
You were with Bessa, you were involved. Period. Let me get this straight.. you would sit there like a statue if some random guy comes pointing a weapon at you? Please.. and as I said previously during the time I have been Semi-AFK so don't play that bullshit card.

I was evading cops, and we both know cops are lazy to head over to San Fierro so I just passed through chinatown. Cofi called me back to troll about joining Sforza.. stayed for a minute then I was on my way to evade from the police. You and your friends thought it was funny to constantly be ramming me with no roleplay to it whatsoever.

If I haven't made it clear already.. no one is the community will ever out troll Daco. You guys are peasants compared to him. Please stop trying as it just makes you look stupid.



I'm pretty sure the whole community would like to know this tension I have with Rafael. I had a disagreement with Antonio like a week ago where I proved him wrong. He banned me on CB and exchanged a couple of words. Due to the way he dealt with the situation, I was no happy hence why I left Gvardia. Since I left, Rafael has shown ultimate disrespect towards me. I'm obviously dealing with it by laughing it off but he thinks his 'trolling' is affecting me. Weird how you turn from friend to foe in a space of a week over some bullshit argument you weren't part off. So yeah, that's pretty much a summary of what's going on.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=111004.0 - What happened to this? Brushed that off aside like it's a fly.

Why in the actual fuck would me trying to kidnap you be 'trolling'? Do you even know what trolling is? Lmao now, this pleb.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 03:43:42 pm
Why in the actual fuck would me trying to kidnap you be 'trolling'? Do you even know what trolling is? Lmao now, this pleb.

I'm talking about your general attitude, especially on /p.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cofiliano on April 11, 2015, 03:46:19 pm
If you escape it means you are no longer a part of the roleplay with the other criminals (if you're in a car with other suspects), look at Gandalfs post in context of the rest of his message.
You escaped from police custody, so what? You're still the person that killed their friend. It doesn't mean that is over. Those group members are still going to hunt you down.
Actually Conroy disallowed me to do the same. One of the Corleones was sniping my people at our Corporation, and Conroy TPd me out, cause I lost suspection in that roleplay.

So can you guys decide already which scenarios are allowed, and which aren't? Cause at the moment it looks like its the one that suits certain individuals.

@lol at Cyril and CM chasing Rafael cause of Kaze "their member".
I'm talking about your general attitude, especially on /p.
You tell him Kaze. :lol:
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 03:47:58 pm
Actually Conroy disallowed me to do the same. One of the Corleones was sniping my people at our Corporation, and Conroy TPd me out, cause I lost suspection in that roleplay.

So can you guys decide already which scenarios are allowed, and which aren't? Cause at the moment it looks like its the one that suits certain individuals.

People interpret the rules in different manners, just because you lost your suspection in your "HQ" area you shouldn't have been removed in my eyes as you were defending your place.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Harry on April 11, 2015, 03:50:17 pm
I think you guys never played Mafia 2, where Henry gets killed by the Chinese mafia, in the middle of a park.

Mafias should not care where the victim is being murdered, because it's a tone of dominance. Now people will reply with crap like 'In front of LSPD or CH' then so be it.

Civilians know the streets are being runned by gangs and mafias, back in the 1980's people got shot or stabbed to death in a public park.

If you murder an associate who is part of a mafia who JUST lives across the street, expect backfire. If my friends would've left because you were in an event, you know they are after you. You gather your friends 'rply' and so the shootout begins.

@Cofiliano - Associates are people who work for the organization, you obviously knew Kaze was applying for CM, so we let Kaze bring in some cash for the family, in order to gain trust and power inside the mob. We don't want our workers to get murdered because they have a history with other families.

Deal with it, you respawn anyway.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Antonio. on April 11, 2015, 03:50:51 pm
People interpret the rules in different manners, just because you lost your suspection in your "HQ" area you shouldn't have been removed in my eyes as you were defending your place.
Don't tell us, enforce the rule how it's supposed to be. Because right now, every admin has his own understanding of certain rules.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 03:51:25 pm
If someone for example Ramo goes and kills your associate Roman Brown, please don't tell me you will not go and pursue Ramo for killing him. Same shit.

3 members of Gvardia left within a space of a week, clearly I'm not at fault here. It's you and your mentality.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: [Rstar]Peter on April 11, 2015, 03:51:58 pm
@lol at Cyril and CM chasing Rafael cause of Kaze "their member".You tell him Kaze. :lol:
Heheheh, hohoohoh, hihihiihih, hahahahah  :bananav: :bananav:

funny
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Stivi on April 11, 2015, 03:56:10 pm
Mind to stop posting non sense?
Mario shot while the guy was already dead since 2 seconds and I aimed 6-8 seconds later without firing a single bullet. We totally want to get suspected.
Another cool story you would like to tell us?

(http://i.gyazo.com/1a132f8a1ac46983452d58523cd5bbcf.png)

(http://i.gyazo.com/1a132f8a1ac46983452d58523cd5bbcf.png)

You can see both of you on the shooting animation. Yes, you do want to get suspected.

"reloads his deagle" oh wow, who carries an unloaded Deagle when he wants to kill someone ?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 03:57:39 pm
(http://i.gyazo.com/1a132f8a1ac46983452d58523cd5bbcf.png)

(http://i.gyazo.com/1a132f8a1ac46983452d58523cd5bbcf.png)

You can see both of you on the shooting animation. Yes, you do want to get suspected.

"reloads his deagle" oh wow, who carries an unloaded Deagle when he wants to kill someone ?

Are you obsessed with Cyril that much that you went and cut snips from the video to try and make some sort of point that people roleplaying is actually an excuse to get wanted?
Get over it already and get on topic.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 03:59:00 pm
I'd like to yet again point out the childish mentality coming from the Gvardia members..

(http://i60.tinypic.com/v6ke8k.png)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/16aw5u1.png)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 03:59:17 pm
(http://i.gyazo.com/1a132f8a1ac46983452d58523cd5bbcf.png)

(http://i.gyazo.com/1a132f8a1ac46983452d58523cd5bbcf.png)

You can see both of you on the shooting animation. Yes, you do want to get suspected.

"reloads his deagle" oh wow, who carries an unloaded Deagle when he wants to kill someone ?

Aiming is not shooting.
Not sure what you are trying to achieve here but it won't succeed.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cofiliano on April 11, 2015, 04:01:44 pm
If someone for example Ramo goes and kills your associate Roman Brown, please don't tell me you will not go and pursue Ramo for killing him. Same shit.

3 members of Gvardia left within a space of a week, clearly I'm not at fault here. It's you and your mentality.
Hahaha Kaze you seriously make my day. The only people who left are people who went back to Sforza, people who paid huge respect to Gvardia, people who said when joining Us, the only reason they would leave Gvardia was to go back to their old group, if it becomes active ever again, like it did. We all respect them for that, its called loyalty which you who went from being Gvardia associate, Soprano associates, then Stracci member, and now Corleone associate in a week, should learn alot from.


Heheheh, hohoohoh, hihihiihih, hahahahah  :bananav: :bananav:

funny
Its hillarious, cause you don't know what I'm pointing out, and it has nothing to do with CM, so hold your horses.


This topic isn't about Gvardia or CM, or Gvardia vs CM, so stop tripping about it, this topic is only about Rafael asking from the HQ to decide already once and for all, what rule should we followed in this situations, cause as he pointed out, and as I pointed out in my reply prior to this one, we are getting told completely different things, from different admins/HQ members about same/similiar situations.

So knock it off people, this has nothing to do with any of us.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 04:05:54 pm
Hahaha Kaze you seriously make my day. The only people who left are people who went back to Sforza, people who paid huge respect to Gvardia, people who said when joining Us, the only reason they would leave Gvardia was to go back to their old group, if it becomes active ever again, like it did. We all respect them for that, its called loyalty which you who went from being Gvardia associate, Soprano associates, then Stracci member, and now Corleone associate in a week, should learn alot from.

Its hillarious, cause you don't know what I'm pointing out, and it has nothing to do with CM, so hold your horses.


Right.. when I left what did I do? Tried to bring back Stracci, we were 1 step forward then 2 steps back so we all decided 'fuck it'. Soprano associate? Wait what? As a matter of fact, the Corleone members actually treat each other with respect.. it's not a case where they disrespect each other. Focus on your members before trying to get to me.

It IS CM vs Gvardia because AFAIK it is a cease-fire situation between the two groups. You should know this yourself you are in the Gvardia leadership lol. Rafael clearly sparked some anger because he killed a CM associate.

Clearly you can't control your members...
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: [Rstar]Peter on April 11, 2015, 04:10:54 pm
Its hillarious, cause you don't know what I'm pointing out, and it has nothing to do with CM, so hold your horses.



@lol at Cyril and CM chasing Rafael cause of Kaze "their member".You tell him Kaze. :lol:


Oh you meant Germans, or maybe Amercians? Swedes?  oh yeahhh ! right ! you meant Aliens !!! sorry pal no aliens found, try again later...
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 04:14:44 pm
If someone for example Ramo goes and kills your associate Roman Brown, please don't tell me you will not go and pursue Ramo for killing him. Same shit.

3 members of Gvardia left within a space of a week, clearly I'm not at fault here. It's you and your mentality.

You also left 3 other groups. So all the groups are faulty? Not you? I'll give it two weeks until you jump out of Corleone after they accept you.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 04:22:38 pm
You also left 3 other groups. So all the groups are faulty? Not you? I'll give it two weeks until you jump out of Corleone after they accept you.

I'll give approximately a month before you're in the unban section with this attitude  ;)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cofiliano on April 11, 2015, 04:26:05 pm
Right.. when I left what did I do? Tried to bring back Stracci, we were 1 step forward then 2 steps back so we all decided 'fuck it'. Soprano associate? Wait what? As a matter of fact, the Corleone members actually treat each other with respect.. it's not a case where they disrespect each other. Focus on your members before trying to get to me.
Everyone who was part of our cb channel for those few days you were around, knows you're just throwing hate on Gvardia, cause you couldn't join back Gvardia, since you're not Gvardia material.
Talking about "Immaturity of Gvardia members" and posting picture, while you were trying to join the same group for a long period time, just few days ago, and were told directly its not happening, says enough about you.


It IS CM vs Gvardia because AFAIK it is a cease-fire situation between the two groups. You should know this yourself you are in the Gvardia leadership lol. Rafael clearly sparked some anger because he killed a CM associate.

Clearly you can't control your members...
Cause the topic tittle is Gvardia vs CM.
Cause you're not just a bitter guy, who got rejected and now's trying to manipulate things, as an associate. :lol:
Cause you're the representative and a guy in charge of group diplomacy in CM.
Cause you got any knowledge in running a group. Or at least sticking to one, longer then 5 days.

Please Kaze, you're embarrassing yourself. Stick to the topic, groups relations are done in game, by groups representatives, not on forums by associate who just got rejected from the other side.



Oh you meant Germans, or maybe Amercians? Swedes?  oh yeahhh ! right ! you meant Aliens !!! sorry pal no aliens found, try again later...

Please mate, if it was about CM I would have said again, its about CM. Its not, so you got no reason to go all mad and being funny, cause nothing was directed neither to you, nor your group. So chill.
It was about:
you went from being Gvardia associate, Soprano associates, then Stracci member, and now Corleone associate in a week.



So one more time:

This topic isn't about Gvardia or CM, or Gvardia vs CM, so stop tripping about it, this topic is only about Rafael asking from the HQ to decide already once and for all, what rule should we followed in this situations, cause as he pointed out, and as I pointed out in my reply prior to this one, we are getting told completely different things, from different admins/HQ members about same/similiar situations.

So knock it off people, this has nothing to do with any of us.

Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 04:27:41 pm
Don't tell us, enforce the rule how it's supposed to be. Because right now, every admin has his own understanding of certain rules.

If it will finally put a smile on your face then sure, I will create a topic about it and how things should be handled with regards to losing suspection.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cofiliano on April 11, 2015, 04:29:05 pm
If it will finally put a smile on your face then sure, I will create a topic about it and how things should be handled with regards to losing suspection.
Please do, thank you.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 04:31:08 pm
Everyone who was part of our cb channel for those few days you were around, knows you're just throwing hate on Gvardia, cause you couldn't join back Gvardia, since you're not Gvardia material.
Talking about "Immaturity of Gvardia members" and posting picture, while you were trying to join the same group for a long period time, just few days ago, and were told directly its not happening, says enough about you.

We both know I left Gvardia because you didn't have the balls to admit you were wrong.

''lololol your the first to die in battle hahah''
(Kaze remains alive whilst Cofi and Antonio die)
''ahahaha - guess who's still alive''
Ban from CB.

Come off it mateeeeeee
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 05:12:49 pm
I'd like to yet again point out the childish mentality coming from the Gvardia members..

(http://i60.tinypic.com/v6ke8k.png)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/16aw5u1.png)

I hope you realise that you should post the full conversation, right?
As in, he was hidding after being chased by the cops, hence that sentence.
You should really review what cop-bait is.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 05:14:02 pm
Is this topic even needed anymore? :)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 05:14:38 pm
Is this topic even needed anymore? :)

Are you gonna admit you made a mistake?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Brian on April 11, 2015, 05:15:19 pm
I hope you realise that you should post the full conversation, right?
As in, he was hidding after being chased by the cops, hence that sentence.
You should really review what cop-bait is.
Cop-baiting is getting the attention from cops to chase you, what he did is cop baiting. What Kaze did is still not correct and is just provoking other players. If he thinks the player should be reported to the staff, he makes a report using the forums or email.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 05:17:41 pm
Are you gonna admit you made a mistake?

Lol, you were already explained by Devin, me and others that you were wrong.
You created that topic to cry and moan about the fact you "lost" in a roleplay situation.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cofiliano on April 11, 2015, 05:21:11 pm
We both know  :eek:dn't have the balls to admit you were wrong.

''lololol your the first to die in battle hahah''
(Kaze remains alive whilst Cofi and Antonio die)
''ahahaha - guess who's still alive''
Ban from CB.

Come off it mateeeeeee
What are you talking about? You were having personal issues with Antonio? You're both adults now, you're both Albanians, you want me to solve your personal issues? What balls are you talking about, being wrong in what?

You couldn't left Gvardia, as you weren't part of Gvardia. And while everyone was laughing at you, making internal bets on how long you're gonna be around this time, I was the one giving you a chance to prove them wrong. Yet we were all clear that wont happen anytime soon if you don't start proving yourself, which you failed. So deal with it, and move on already, stop hating on a group you wanted to be part of just few days ago, and  good luck in CM.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 05:23:04 pm
Lol, you were already explained by Devin, me and others that you were wrong.
You created that topic to cry and moan about the fact you "lost" in a roleplay situation.

Chase down a guy who went to Los Santos (to attend to an event), just because he killed Kaze.
Guy died, so no link to the RP.
Out of no where, in a pavemented area, random CCTV is there.
Tell the killers to wait just to after the event.
Gets killed.
Reports the attackers.
Mod can't do shit because Manager was there and finds it perfectly fine.
Killed person is expected to know that his victim from two days ago is linked with CM.
Asks the manager what was all that about.
'You came LS ran by most powerful mafia' as answer.
'But I went there for an event, what?'
'It was because of Kaze', replies.
'It was because you came here'
Murt says its DM.
CBF says its not allowed.

I'm wrong. Ok. Lock it, I get it, I'm wrong, lmao.
I apologise for getting killed.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 05:26:45 pm
CBF says its not allowed.

I did not say it was NOT ALLOWED.

In fact the last line of the above spoiler is the most important ...

The fact Cyril was part of it is irrelevant and I did not change my thought process

You are not even reading your own topic :kilt:
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Brian on April 11, 2015, 05:28:19 pm
Rafa, an event does not over rule a role play situation unless an admin has stated so, for example during a DD. And admin may state that 'suspects are not allowed to join.' or 'cops are not allowed to go after suspects in the event.' Yet I have not seen Traser stating that, meaning that an event does not break roleplay situation.
It is their choice if they would've waited till after the event, and they did not.
It is clear you had refused a role play with them.

You are also taking items that have been proven incorrect already, CBF has already posted his statement and said that the situation is different if they're law enforcement or criminals.

TLDR:
You killed one of their allies, they came to you for revenge, you refused to roleplay with them because 'event', drove in to them and died.

That's how things have worked for a long time, don't piss of a mafia.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 05:29:36 pm
What are you talking about? You were having personal issues with Antonio? You're both adults now, you're both Albanians, you want me to solve your personal issues? What balls are you talking about, being wrong in what?

You couldn't left Gvardia, as you weren't part of Gvardia. And while everyone was laughing at you, making internal bets on how long you're gonna be around this time, I was the one giving you a chance to prove them wrong. Yet we were all clear that wont happen anytime soon if you don't start proving yourself, which you failed. So deal with it, and move on already, stop hating on a group you wanted to be part of just few days ago, and  good luck in CM.

/groupleave Gvardia and CK - That's how I left it.
I'm not hating on the group, I'm hating at the members constantly showing disrespect towards me. I'm just playing their game buddy. If you still think your members aren't doing anything wrong, I'll be send you a fraps video/screenshots almost every couple of hours now until you process the fact that your members are behaving like children.
Thank you.



Killed person is expected to know that his victim from two days ago is linked with CM.

Are you actually retarded? Everett was involved in the RP, he was around when you killed me.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Pedro. on April 11, 2015, 05:31:25 pm
Greetings gentlemen

@Kaze the reason why me and Matteo actually left Gvardia is because Sforza is back which was the group I was before joinin Gvardia, during my stay in Gvardia I personally had much fun and can't say I didn't enjoy it.

@For those of you who are mentioning Sforza in your posts, please stop, we have nothing to do with this and we don't look forward to. Thanks.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 05:33:44 pm
Greetings gentlemen

@Kaze the reason why me and Matteo actually left Gvardia is because Sforza is back which was the group I was before joinin Gvardia, during my stay in Gvardia I personally had much fun and can't say I didn't enjoy it.

Regardless, someone was saying some bullshit about loyalty so I was just proving him wrong using you two as an example.. you guys jumped ship as soon as Sforza returns.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Pedro. on April 11, 2015, 05:37:37 pm
Regardless, someone was saying some bullshit about loyalty so I was just proving him wrong using you two as an example.. you guys jumped ship as soon as Sforza returns.

And that only proves my loyalty, I've been a Sforza for 3 years now, what the hell did you expect?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Brian on April 11, 2015, 05:38:19 pm
Regardless, someone was saying some bullshit about loyalty so I was just proving him wrong using you two as an example.. you guys jumped ship as soon as Sforza returns.

The only people who left are people who went back to Sforza, people who paid huge respect to Gvardia, people who said when joining Us, the only reason they would leave Gvardia was to go back to their old group, if it becomes active ever again, like it did. We all respect them for that, its called loyalty.

Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 05:45:33 pm
And that only proves my loyalty, I've been a Sforza for 3 years now, what the hell did you expect?

So when I returned to Stracci to return it, it wasn't a loyal gesture? Please..

I'm not getting onto you or Matteo, I'm just simply using you as an example.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Brian on April 11, 2015, 05:52:26 pm
So when I returned to Stracci to return it, it wasn't a loyal gesture? Please..

I'm not getting onto you or Matteo, I'm just simply using you as an example.
The difference is that they joined Gvardia, and the head knew that they'd return to Sforza once it would be reopened, if ever. They had stated that and they were aware of it.
Quote
You have my word I won't fuck around. I can sit her and write paragraphs about this but I guarantee you I will be a long term member here. I apologise for what I've done in the past and it wont be repeated.
That's what you wrote, that's the difference.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 05:56:05 pm
Rafa, an event does not over rule a role play situation unless an admin has stated so, for example during a DD. And admin may state that 'suspects are not allowed to join.' or 'cops are not allowed to go after suspects in the event.' Yet I have not seen Traser stating that, meaning that an event does not break roleplay situation.
It is their choice if they would've waited till after the event, and they did not.
It is clear you had refused a role play with them.

You are also taking items that have been proven incorrect already, CBF has already posted his statement and said that the situation is different if they're law enforcement or criminals.

TLDR:
You killed one of their allies, they came to you for revenge, you refused to roleplay with them because 'event', drove in to them and died.

That's how things have worked for a long time, don't piss of a mafia.

Ok, lock the topic, please, I'm clarified.
Sorry for all the situation Cyril.

Also, TL;DR means Too Long; Didn't Read.

But seriously Brian, could you lock it? Already deviated from the main topic, and I'm already clarified.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Majnoon on April 11, 2015, 05:57:05 pm
Chase down a guy who went to Los Santos (to attend to an event), just because he killed Kaze.
Guy died, so no link to the RP.
Out of no where, in a pavemented area, random CCTV is there.
Tell the killers to wait just to after the event.
Gets killed.
Reports the attackers.
Mod can't do shit because Manager was there and finds it perfectly fine.
Killed person is expected to know that his victim from two days ago is linked with CM.
Asks the manager what was all that about.
'You came LS ran by most powerful mafia' as answer.
'But I went there for an event, what?'
'It was because of Kaze', replies.
'It was because you came here'
Murt says its DM.
CBF says its not allowed.

I'm wrong. Ok. Lock it, I get it, I'm wrong, lmao.
I apologise for getting killed.

I agree with you, it doesn't make sense. When you killed the guy that means the roleplay situation is over, let's talk about that roleplay straight. How they know you killed the guy of course he told them by using '/cb he killed me bla bla bla..', there were witnesses when you killed the guy?. If not how they could know what happend and who killed that member. I guess they don't know how roleplay working..
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 06:10:53 pm
I agree with you, it doesn't make sense. When you killed the guy that means the roleplay situation is over, let's talk about that roleplay straight. How they know you killed the guy of course he told them by using '/cb he killed me bla bla bla..', there were witnesses when you killed the guy?. If not how they could know what happend and who killed that member. I guess they don't know how roleplay working..

The reason we came to you was you killed one of our member and got caught by CCTV's, hence we identified you and came to you to roleplay.

Maybe read the topic next time.
But I'm willing to listen to you and explain me how does roleplay work.
Please go ahead.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 06:18:24 pm
Brian, I was forced out of Gvardia. I didn't fuck around.  ;)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kessu on April 11, 2015, 06:19:05 pm
I agree with you, it doesn't make sense. When you killed the guy that means the roleplay situation is over
No. The roleplay is over for the guy who got killed, but you're still in it.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Majnoon on April 11, 2015, 06:22:04 pm
Maybe read the topic next time.
But I'm willing to listen to you and explain me how does roleplay work.
Please go ahead.

You can learn how to roleplay when you are playing in acceptable attitude with players. When you answer comments with 'heroes replies' don't think you will get respect by members.

Maybe read the topic next time.

Maybe stop reading your powerful (  :strong: ) replies :)

No. The roleplay is over for the guy who got killed, but you're still in it.

Yeah..I were watching CCTV it's great channel isn't. I like this mafia they are very interesting watching news :) god bless you :)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Brian on April 11, 2015, 06:23:58 pm
''Closed-circuit television
Closed-circuit television, also known as video surveillance, is the use of video cameras to transmit a signal to a specific place, on a limited set of monitors.''
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 06:25:48 pm
You can learn how to roleplay when you are playing in acceptable attitude with players. When you answer comments with 'heroes replies' don't think you will get respect by members.

Maybe stop reading your powerful (  :strong: ) replies :)

Yeah..I were watching CCTV it's great channel isn't. I like this mafia they are very interesting watching news :) god bless you :)

Another one talking non sense and have no clue about what we discussing..
I'm still waiting for you to teach me to roleplay as you seem to know better than everyone how to roleplay.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Luke on April 11, 2015, 06:27:14 pm
Seriously guys, when will we learn to get over pathetic grudges. Staff are here wether you, me, whoever likes it. This back and forth "he did this" "he did that" is really childish. We all do stupid shit and get punished, just because administration don't get warned with commands like we do don't mean they dont get punished at all there is more behind closed doors. We are all here for one thing and thats for the pure pleasure of argonath.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 06:28:05 pm
Can we lock this?

I already asked for it, as OP I got clarified. Please, lock it.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 06:33:50 pm
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2eo8guq.png)

The place where I died. Please don't tell me that no CCTV would catch you killing me in action.

Out of no where, in a pavemented area, random CCTV is there.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: AK47 on April 11, 2015, 06:41:17 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktbhw0v186Q
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Antonio. on April 11, 2015, 06:51:09 pm

3 members of Gvardia left within a space of a week, clearly I'm not at fault here. It's you and your mentality.
You're right, you would know a lot about leaving groups.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 06:51:40 pm
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2eo8guq.png)

The place where I died. Please don't tell me that no CCTV would catch you killing me in action.

jesus f**cking christtttttttttttttttt

corleone would have full access to a random CCTV, they would bother hacking it because one associate disappeared.
would guess which camera to look at from thousands in the city, also the exact location. then from miles away would recognize my face, with the top 4k resolution CCTV has, completely figure out that the random infernus that was not owned by me, was clearly being driven by me at that point; to finally find me randomly in los santos, identify me, even tho' i was in another vehicle immediately acknowledging the link between a complete different car and your disappearance. 10/10 this is greater than CSI.

now, please, someone lock the topic before this extends.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 06:56:07 pm
Why wouldn't Corleone got access to LS CCTV?
Do I have to remind you that Corleone control LS and therefore can have access to plenty of stuff?
Who said the camera was from miles away? If it was even the case, do you even know that CCTV have actually very powerful zooms?
It could be pretty easy to know where to look as cop have probably investigated the murder and called medics to transport the corpse.

Once again, you make non sense.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Antonio. on April 11, 2015, 06:59:06 pm
If it will finally put a smile on your face then sure, I will create a topic about it and how things should be handled with regards to losing suspection.
This is not just for me, it's for every criminal roleplayer who's being mistreated. Sooner or later those who haven't been effected at all will, unless everything is cleared up inside the admin team.

But thanks.

We both know I left Gvardia because you didn't have the balls to admit you were wrong.

''lololol your the first to die in battle hahah''
(Kaze remains alive whilst Cofi and Antonio die)
''ahahaha - guess who's still alive''
Ban from CB.

Come off it mateeeeeee
You "left" Gvardia because you knew you had no chance in joining it, after giving your word several times, getting banned several times for even reasons such as "trying out hacks", trolling and "leaving Gvardia to protect them". Not to mention you broke your Besa, which says more than enough about you.

Also the reason you just explained has nothing to do with Cofi, yet it was between you and me. Cofiliano didn't even know you "left" until he saw you added the Stracci tag.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 07:01:48 pm
Why wouldn't Corleone got access to LS CCTV?
Do I have to remind you that Corleone control LS and therefore can have access to plenty of stuff?
Who said the camera was from miles away? If it was even the case, do you even know that CCTV have actually very powerful zooms?
It could be pretty easy to know where to look as cop have probably investigated the murder and called medics to transport the corpse.

Once again, you make non sense.

we dumped the corpse, 10/10 work from the cops, we also shot all CCTV in the area prior to the action, we burned the infernus after the job and we also had masks.

once again you make non sense.


Can someone lock the topic please?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 07:04:56 pm
we dumped the corpse, 10/10 work from the cops, we also shot all CCTV in the area prior to the action, we burned the infernus after the job and we also had masks.

once again you make non sense.


Can someone lock the topic please?

Why are you even on a roleplay server when your roleplay ability are near inexistant?
Only thing you do is crying... (http://hiddenlol.com/img/emotes/BabyRage.png)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 07:06:35 pm
jesus f**cking christtttttttttttttttt

corleone would have full access to a random CCTV, they would bother hacking it because one associate disappeared.
would guess which camera to look at from thousands in the city, also the exact location. then from miles away would recognize my face, with the top 4k resolution CCTV has, completely figure out that the random infernous that was not owned by me was clearly being driven by me at that point to finally find me randomly in los santos, identify me, even tho' i was in another vehicle immediately acknowledging the link between a complete different car and your disappearance. 10/10 this is greater than CSI.

now, please, someone lock the topic before this extends.

Has it occurred to you that there could be many ways to obtain the CCTV footage? I obtained CCTV footage from the SMB kidnapping myself. Maybe CM intimidated the shop owner to give them the CCTV footage of what's happening outside his shop? In addition, you killed me couple meters away from LSPD. Has it occurred to you that maybe CM have corrupt cops on their payroll? This is roleplay, use your imagination.

You left Gvardia because you knew you had no chance in joining it, after giving your word several times, getting banned several times for even reasons such as "trying out hacks", trolling and "leaving Gvardia to protect them". Not to mention you broke your Besa, which says more than enough about you.

I did have a chance of joining it otherwise why would the person 'noted' my application. I see you wanna bring the past into this because you ran out of things to say..  :lol:. The fact that you don't have the balls to apologise for making such a remark also says enough about you.

Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 07:07:50 pm
Why are you even on a roleplay server when your roleplay ability are near inexistant?
Only thing you do is crying... (http://hiddenlol.com/img/emotes/BabyRage.png)

you can clearly make stuff up, i can as well.
weren't you the one who couldn't pass the registration test on the other server(which the name doesn't matter) when ben wanted to move there?

@Kaze i already did

anyway, someone lock the topic, pls
i already got past this, can't you both do the same? you won, i got killed GG.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 07:16:13 pm
you can clearly make stuff up, i can as well.
weren't you the one who couldn't pass the registration test on the other server when ben wanted to move there?

Lol, I had an account there way before you and your friends decided to move there.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Antonio. on April 11, 2015, 07:19:51 pm

I did have a chance of joining it otherwise why would the person 'noted' my application. I see you wanna bring the past into this because you ran out of things to say..  :lol:. The fact that you don't have the balls to apologise for making such a remark also says enough about you.
"Noted" has a different meaning for a player we don't know, and it has a different meaning for a person with your past. We're discussing about you "leaving" Gvardia, and in order for me to explain to you correctly, I have to remind you of your history whilst affiliated with Gvardia. I won't apologize to you because I wouldn't mean it anyways; in my eyes you deserved the treatment you got from me. It's better to not apologize than to apologize several times like you have, and at the same time not mean it. Your actions proved that you haven't.

Now please have some self respect and stop embarrassing your self.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cofiliano on April 11, 2015, 07:25:34 pm
/groupleave Gvardia and CK - That's how I left it.
I'm not hating on the group, I'm hating at the members constantly showing disrespect towards me. I'm just playing their game buddy. If you still think your members aren't doing anything wrong, I'll be send you a fraps video/screenshots almost every couple of hours now until you process the fact that your members are behaving like children.
Thank you.


Like I said, you weren't even in Gvardia, in order to leave. You didn't even had a Trial tag, nothing, just a place among associates in /group Gvardia, that I added you on your request: "So I can drive cars".

You're the one acting like a butthurt youngster Kaze, and then you come and throw lies on me. Mate, compare any of my members to you, and make a public pool on Argonath, specially between criminals,  who do they respect more(not love, not like, not personal opinion, only respect), see what happens.
Start from the "members acting like children" such as Antonio and Rafael.

Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 07:29:13 pm
Now please have some self respect and stop embarrassing your self.

I could say the same, I proved you wrong and you couldn't accept it so you ban me from CB. Have some self-respect and admit your wrongdoings. Clearly you seem to be very ignorant. You need be careful before you say something stupid because when you are proven wrong you look like a bal to everyone else.



Like I said, you weren't even in Gvardia, in order to leave. You didn't even had a Trial tag, nothing, just a place among associates in /group Gvardia, that I added you on your request: "So I can drive cars".

You're the one acting like a butthurt youngster Kaze, and then you come and throw lies on me. Mate, compare any of my members to you, and make a public pool on Argonath, specially between criminals,  who do they respect more(not love, not like, not personal opinion, only respect), see what happens.
Start from the "members acting like children" such as Antonio and Rafael.

Stivi actually added me.  :lol:

Antonio - Can't admit his wrongdoings. Stubborn.
Rafael - Self explanatory? Look at this 11 page bullshit he started.
Rick - Fail troll
Playa - Self explanatory.
Aca - He hasn't done anything to me personally yet and I'm happy about that but since Antonio likes to mention my past I'll mention the troll attempts aca had in the past.
Vladislav - Follows the crowd. He sees the above ''trolling'' and feels it is ok for him to do it too.

Everyone else seems to be behaving as a normal person should.


Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Vladislav on April 11, 2015, 07:29:52 pm
I did have a chance of joining it otherwise why would the person 'noted' my application. I see you wanna bring the past into this because you ran out of things to say..  :lol:. The fact that you don't have the balls to apologise for making such a remark also says enough about you.

I actually had a bet with some players for how long it'd take you before you find some excuse to leave. I was more than happy to deny you when you applied, yet i decided to be impartial and let someone else deal with you. Sorry you didn't get the open-armed welcome you think you're entitled to, but don't act like you didn't warrant any of the attitude towards you lol.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 07:32:13 pm
Lol, I had an account there way before you and your friends decided to move there.

i doubt you're there since early 2009, but whatever. can you lock the topic?

anyone?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Antonio. on April 11, 2015, 07:34:25 pm
I could say the same, I proved you wrong and you couldn't accept it so you ban me from CB. Have some self-respect and admit your wrongdoings. Clearly you seem to be very ignorant. You need be careful before you say something stupid because when you are proven wrong you look like a bal to everyone else.



You got banned for disrespecting the Don of the group you wanted to join, something everyone in the CB witnessed, including players who aren't in Gvardia. You're comparing things such as group-hopping and hacking with "me kicking you from the CB for getting mad", which isn't even comparable in the first place. I'm a "bal", yet everyone lols at you when they see you're applying for another group. Please have some dignity.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Teddy on April 11, 2015, 07:35:06 pm
i think some people fail to see this is a "light RP server" not STRICT

key word is "light" it's a LIGHT RP server not a NO RP server. I think that is what some people fail to see.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 07:36:03 pm
i doubt you're there since early 2009, but whatever. can you lock the topic?

anyone?

Since late 2009.
And no, we won't lock this topic.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 07:38:19 pm
You got banned for disrespecting the Don of the group you wanted to join, something everyone in the CB witnessed, including players who aren't in Gvardia. You're comparing things such as group-hopping and hacking with "me kicking you from the CB for getting mad", which isn't even comparable in the first place. I'm a "bal", yet everyone lols at you when they see you're applying for another group. Please have some dignity.

Disrespecting? I proved you wrong. Requesting logs on this matter just to clear the air.
Group hopping? Let's see what you have to say.
Hacking? I don't need to hack, I have enough money to survive ingame.

I don't think anyone is lol'ing except for you.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Acika on April 11, 2015, 07:38:29 pm
Hello people.

I see that things are changing. For instance the RP a manager stated (Cyril) and explained whats enough to do. Many people, including me, used to get banned for doing the same or even much better roleplay.

Do I have to remind you that Corleone control LS and therefore can have access to plenty of stuff?
When the cat's away, the mice will play ;)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Cyril on April 11, 2015, 07:40:32 pm
When the cat's away, the mice will play ;)

The cat is not away, he is dead and never coming back :)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: RafaDK on April 11, 2015, 07:42:51 pm
Since late 2009.
And no, we won't lock this topic.

The topic already answered the OP question. - It's pointless, as OP, I'm requesting a lock.
Enough is enough.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Kaze on April 11, 2015, 07:43:09 pm
The cat is not away, he is dead and never coming back :)

(https://36.media.tumblr.com/28643c5ccbaad05af7e43744de0ffb0b/tumblr_mglhw8MlvQ1s2hytzo2_250.jpg)
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Ivan_MC on April 11, 2015, 07:43:44 pm
I don't think anyone is lol'ing except for you.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Acika on April 11, 2015, 07:45:07 pm
The cat is not away, he is dead and never coming back :)
That cat never died in a mafia war for 4 years and never got beaten in a fight. On the other hand he cleaned the hill from mice so many times :)

Anyways, it's great that things are changing.

Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Devin on April 11, 2015, 07:45:38 pm
Hello people.

I see that things are changing. For instance the RP a manager stated (Cyril) and explained whats enough to do. Many people, including me, used to get banned for doing the same or even much better roleplay.

The logs show a different story in regards to your "much better roleplay". But sure if you believe so.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Antonio. on April 11, 2015, 07:46:11 pm
Disrespecting? I proved you wrong. Requesting logs on this matter just to clear the air.
Group hopping? Let's see what you have to say.
Hacking? I don't need to hack, I have enough money to survive ingame.

I don't think anyone is lol'ing except for you.
You didn't prove anyone wrong, you just proved you're not cut out for us thus being told to politely fuck off. You have already proven to us everything about group-hopping, you were Gvardia's associate, joined Stracci and applied for Corleone in one week, I don't need to explain myself any further. And I didn't say you need to hack, yet you've done that in the past while trying to fit in Gvardia and your excuse was "I just wanted to try them out". I'm not speaking about your future, because quite frankly, I don't give a shit about what you do. I'm just telling you to stop hating just because you're with Corleone now.

I suggest you carefully start reading what I'm writing and trying to point out, because right now you're just trying to defend yourself with things that don't have anything to do with the matter.
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Vladislav on April 11, 2015, 07:48:28 pm
Antonio - Can't admit his wrongdoings. Stubborn.
Rafael - Self explanatory? Look at this 11 page bullshit he started.
Rick - Fail troll
Playa - Self explanatory.
Aca - He hasn't done anything to me personally yet and I'm happy about that but since Antonio likes to mention my past I'll mention the troll attempts aca had in the past.
Vladislav - Follows the crowd. He sees the above ''trolling'' and feels it is ok for him to do it too.

Everyone else seems to be behaving as a normal person should.

So basically, all the players who never took you seriously because of your stupid antics. You sound so bitter lol. Always been quick to draw the victim card 'eh Kaze?
Title: Re: Another topic. Please HQ, time for a change.
Post by: Teddy on April 11, 2015, 07:50:36 pm
The topic already answered the OP question. - It's pointless, as OP, I'm requesting a lock.
Enough is enough.
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