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Title: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Devin on April 26, 2015, 09:00:30 pm
As most of you have seen this already; http://rs5.herokuapp.com/

Whilst those three have left the development team and administration team there will not be stagnant period with regards to the script development.
Please do not believe everything you read, we are here to assist the players. False accusations do more harm in the long run.

A new team has been put together with motivated and willing scripters that comprises of the following:

Lead Scripter: Teddy
Scripters: CBFasi, Chase, Mikro

As depicted here there have already been changes made to the current script and more updates to come shortly: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=111462

Regards
SA:MP HQ / Development team
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Kostas on April 26, 2015, 09:03:51 pm
Hope that this is indeed good news.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 26, 2015, 09:04:17 pm
Ding dong the witch is dead!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js

Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Cyril on April 26, 2015, 09:06:00 pm
Finally RS5 development will start again.
This is what the server needed the most.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Kaze on April 26, 2015, 09:11:33 pm
Mixed feelings about this but I'm gonna

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/I0Leqv_nOf4/hqdefault.jpg)

Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Manoni on April 26, 2015, 09:13:36 pm
If this had to happen to start seeing an improvement into the server then so be it. Looking forward to what you guys have prepared for us.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Kaze on April 26, 2015, 09:15:13 pm
If this had to happen to start seeing an improvement into the server then so be it. Looking forward to what you guys have prepared for us.

Be careful, you don't know if you are dancing with the devil or singing high notes with the angels.  :lol:
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Manoni on April 26, 2015, 09:17:05 pm
If it changes for good, does it really matters?
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: eymas on April 26, 2015, 09:17:55 pm
Current reaction (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19441947/random/jiiiiiiii.png)

I do want to say farewell to the few departing, will miss them.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 26, 2015, 09:22:59 pm
Be careful, you don't know if you are dancing with the devil or singing high notes with the angels.  :lol:

Let actions speak for themselves.

Whilst Gimli was head honcho of Script team, since RS5's release there has been little to no updates.
We need not politicians.
Just scripters who are committed.


Gimli could've been a good sport and kept the panel up for the sake of the hundreds of users, but decided to pull it and gain attention through it.
He resigned himself.
 

These things happen. Do not waffle in the past and encourage the future which looks a bit brighter.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 26, 2015, 10:02:04 pm
Unfortunately the /help script was linked to the panel (which gimli was so kind as to remove) and so we have no /help in game.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Ethan. on April 26, 2015, 10:08:06 pm
I salute you Gimli
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Gimli on April 26, 2015, 10:13:33 pm
Gimli could've been a good sport and kept the panel up for the sake of the hundreds of users, but decided to pull it and gain attention through it.
Unfortunately the /help script was linked to the panel (which gimli was so kind as to remove) and so we have no /help in game.

This is outside of my control now. It is only a matter of time before the database password is changed (if it hasn't been already), hence access to the panel would have been cut off anyway. 

Fixing /help shouldn't be too hard, shouldn't take more than a couple of hours to implement reading it straight from the DB. For someone competent anyway.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Teddy on April 26, 2015, 10:15:41 pm
This is outside of my control now. It is only a matter of time before the database password is changed (if it hasn't been already), hence access to the panel would have been cut off anyway. 

It wouldn't have been changed as we know we could trust you to have been a good sport about this.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Gimli on April 26, 2015, 10:20:32 pm
It wouldn't have been changed as we know we could trust you to have been a good sport about this.
In that case, fine. The panel is back up for as long as you want it to be.

---


For reference, this is the message was originally on the panel (and linked to on this topic).
Quote from: panel
Dear members of the community,

It is with great sadness that I announce the resignation of the core development team of RS5 (Conroy, Zaila, and myself). This is due to multiple conflicts within the last year with HQ, namely Devin, Cyril, and Teddy. You probably noticed that most of us have been barely active the last few months, and this is partially due to being severely demotivated by poor leadership skills displayed by the aforementioned individuals

As much as we loved our roles and the community, we refuse to work with the trio and have chosen to leave. Imagine yourself happily working somewhere with a great team, and someone you once considered a friend joined the team. Before you knew it, as soon as they got the power, their ego became the size of Jupiter (largest planet, in case you didn't know...) and started doing whatever their little heart desired all by themselves instead of acting like a team member, and there was barely anything you could do. You wouldn't be happy, to say the least.

A few days ago, I initiated a private vote in a conversation between Gandalf, Aragorn, Sauron, CBFasi, and Boromir to remove Devin from SA:MP leadership. Derek, a webmaster and close friend of Devin, someone saw the contents of the message (abusing database access much?), and he decided that he didn't like the vote (and probably still annoyed that he was removed from the RS5 scripting team due to technical incompetence), so he went ahead and removed my rank, even though he had no authority to, knowing that Gandalf is conveniently away. Gandalf had been contacted but is still away thus I do not know if he had the right to.

While I personally believe the trio have killed the further development of RS5, I look forward to being proven wrong. I sincerely hope they get their act together. The level of arrogance displayed by them (mainly Devin) at the moment is at an all time high. Please, for the love of Sauron, become more professional (aka don't call players "fucking faggot" in unban requests), yet friendlier at the same time.

Respectfully yours,

xcasio

P.S. I've made a lot of friends here and would love to stay in touch. Feel free to add me on Skype (xcasio) or Steam (_xcasio_). (Yes, even swedes...) I've become a CSGO addict nowadays with all the newly acquired time!
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Teddy on April 26, 2015, 10:23:19 pm
In that case, fine. The panel is back up for as long as you want it to be.

Thank you.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 26, 2015, 10:23:36 pm
In that case, fine. The panel is back up for as long as you want it to be

Thanks for returning it.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Kostas on April 26, 2015, 10:26:22 pm
Shit...
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: jannik852 on April 26, 2015, 10:27:22 pm
This is outside of my control now.

I will miss you buddy :)
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Luke on April 26, 2015, 10:30:30 pm
I love you man.

All the best Iggy <3
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Acika on April 26, 2015, 10:30:45 pm
Quote
Dear members of the community,

It is with great sadness that I announce the resignation of the core development team of RS5 (Conroy, Zaila, and myself). This is due to multiple conflicts within the last year with HQ, namely Devin, Cyril, and Teddy. You probably noticed that most of us have been barely active the last few months, and this is partially due to being severely demotivated by poor leadership skills displayed by the aforementioned individuals

As much as we loved our roles and the community, we refuse to work with the trio and have chosen to leave. Imagine yourself happily working somewhere with a great team, and someone you once considered a friend joined the team. Before you knew it, as soon as they got the power, their ego became the size of Jupiter (largest planet, in case you didn't know...) and started doing whatever their little heart desired all by themselves instead of acting like a team member, and there was barely anything you could do. You wouldn't be happy, to say the least.

A few days ago, I initiated a private vote in a conversation between Gandalf, Aragorn, Sauron, CBFasi, and Boromir to remove Devin from SA:MP leadership. Derek, a webmaster and close friend of Devin, someone saw the contents of the message (abusing database access much?), and he decided that he didn't like the vote (and probably still annoyed that he was removed from the RS5 scripting team due to technical incompetence), so he went ahead and removed my rank, even though he had no authority to, knowing that Gandalf is conveniently away. Gandalf had been contacted but is still away thus I do not know if he had the right to.

While I personally believe the trio have killed the further development of RS5, I look forward to being proven wrong. I sincerely hope they get their act together. The level of arrogance displayed by them (mainly Devin) at the moment is at an all time high. Please, for the love of Sauron, become more professional (aka don't call players "f**cking faggot" in unban requests), yet friendlier at the same time.

Respectfully yours,

xcasio

P.S. I've made a lot of friends here and would love to stay in touch. Feel free to add me on Skype (xcasio) or Steam (_xcasio_). (Yes, even swedes...) I've become a CSGO addict nowadays with all the newly acquired time!
Amen.

Thank you for everything you have done for the community. I hope it will be all good in the end.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Teddy on April 26, 2015, 10:33:50 pm
I want to point out to those who left didn't do anything wrong. As a community we shouldn't look at them in any bad light. They have contributed so much to this community over the years, and have continued to show their commitment. They shouldn't be blamed for having real life commitments and thus having less time to commit to the scripts. The team we have now is fully committed to a schedule based release time frame and to listening to the community's input and working with HQ.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: .Diego on April 26, 2015, 10:35:22 pm
why watch a drama movie when u got argonath
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Acika on April 26, 2015, 10:42:59 pm
I want to point out to those who left didn't do anything wrong. As a community we shouldn't look at them in any bad light. They have contributed so much to this community over the years, and have continued to show their commitment. They shouldn't be blamed for having real life commitments and thus having less time to commit to the scripts. The team we have now is fully committed to a schedule based release time frame and to listening to the community's input and working with HQ.
Teddy, you're a good guy but you're currently under very bad influence. Please give your best to snap out of it for the sake of community. Conroy, Zaila and Gimli can't be replaced adequately.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 26, 2015, 10:43:41 pm
I want to point out to those who left didn't do anything wrong. As a community we shouldn't look at them in any bad light. They have contributed so much to this community over the years, and have continued to show their commitment. They shouldn't be blamed for having real life commitments and thus having less time to commit to the scripts. The team we have now is fully committed to a schedule based release time frame and to listening to the community's input and working with HQ.
True dat.

Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Teddy on April 26, 2015, 10:45:05 pm
Teddy, you're a good guy but you're currently under very bad influence.

Gandalf is a bad influence? Ok.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Acika on April 26, 2015, 10:47:22 pm
Gandalf is a bad influence? Ok.
Not that just you're a good guy, but you're also a good comedian. You very well know of who i'm talking about ;)
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Manoni on April 26, 2015, 10:51:28 pm
Funny how people talks without knowing nothing about what happened.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Acika on April 26, 2015, 10:52:33 pm
Funny how people talks without knowing nothing about what happened.
I totally agree.

By the way, you got a great siggy right there !
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Teddy on April 26, 2015, 10:54:39 pm
Not that just you're a good guy, but you're also a good comedian. You very well know of who i'm talking about ;)

I can correct some facts for you in PM if you'd like. I'm open to listening to feedback.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Lustigkurre on April 26, 2015, 10:55:45 pm
Respect, xcasio. I would have done the same.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: jannik852 on April 26, 2015, 11:03:26 pm
I wonder why the irregular comments, get's removed almost instantaneously?
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: AK47 on April 26, 2015, 11:08:43 pm
Respect, xcasio. I would have done the same.



sad to see such great people leave
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Teddy on April 26, 2015, 11:09:22 pm
I wonder why the irregular comments, get's removed almost instantaneously?

One person's comment was removed because it was spreading false information. I'm in PM with them to correct my statement or not to post it.

Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Kostas on April 26, 2015, 11:11:18 pm
Why not public?
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Teddy on April 26, 2015, 11:12:37 pm
Why not public?

Because it's not a public problem, it's a problem with a single person.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Kostas on April 26, 2015, 11:16:03 pm
Well the thing is ... that all of that secrecy... In Greece we say.
"A clear sky, is not afraid of thunders."
Now i have no damn idea of what he said or how wrong or right it was, but I see no reason of why you wouldn't explain it here, chance are. That he wasn't the only one thinking that way. Plus reading the commends, the few that did read it, also need an explanation.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: TruthSvensson on April 26, 2015, 11:17:45 pm
Well the thing is ... that all of that secrecy... In Greece.
"A clear sky, is not afraid of thunders."
Now i have no damn idea of what he said or how wrong or right it was, but I see no reason of why you wouldn't explain it here, chance are. That he wasn't the only one thinking that way. Plus reading the commends, the few that did read it, also need an explanation.

What EvilTeddy said was, "because Gimli, Conroy, and Zaila worked against community and HQ" which I couldn't recall perfectly, so I used other words for this sentence at my removed post. But still, as far as I'm concerned, they mean the exact same thing I've posted before.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Teddy on April 26, 2015, 11:18:59 pm
It was nothing of his "thinking" it was a misquote of what I said. It turns out I mistyped in-game and implied something I shouldn't have.

I said something along the lines of implying the Gimli, Zaila and Conroy worked against the community. This was not at all what I intended to word it or say. All three of them obviously cared about this community and the people in it and would't have been in the positions they were if they had those intentions. I was trying to cite the rejection of community feedback and feedback from SA:MP HQ which was neglected due to personal feelings. I apologize if I miswrote this and implied the wrong idea or intentions.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Pandalink on April 26, 2015, 11:20:33 pm
That's a damn shame.

I can't blame xcasio though, I'm with Lustig on this one. Not worth it.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Kostas on April 26, 2015, 11:21:22 pm
See? Much better. Now I'm sure everyone feels better, including yourself.
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Primus on April 26, 2015, 11:24:44 pm
Farewell old team, thanks for everything  :app:
Title: Re: RS5 Team Changes
Post by: Teddy on April 26, 2015, 11:25:44 pm
If anyone has any questions or concerns direct them to Devin's PM.

This topic will be locked. It was simply ment to inform the public of the changes. Now we need to focus on moving forward and improving the server, not debating over silly things which have caused the halt in development in the first place.

This plan was setup along side Gandalf, and was approved by him. It will continue that way.

I want to say thanks again to Gimli, Zaila, and Conroy for all they've contributed to over the years. They truly are the sole reason RS5 exists today and their contributions to the community will be a legacy for years to come. I truly regret things had to come to this and wish everyone was on term with wanting to talk things out rather than fighting and all this drama which provides no benefit for anyone. A tragedy really.
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