Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: jovanca on April 27, 2015, 08:42:47 pm
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If you are locking a topic, atleast tell us why you're closing it and who you are. Btw, unbanning a person is as easy as closing a topic, and is a much better thing to do right now.
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The matter should be held open for discussion, at least...
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Use the common sense to understand why the topic was locked...duh....
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The matter should be held open for discussion, at least...
obviously, thats why i opened it here rather than sending a private message to leaders+/ opened an unban request for acika(and people like him) myself.
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When locking a topic, the person locking it should always reply; just the same when issuing any punishment... the person(s) affected should be informed. We've continued to stress this to board moderators and to ourselves.
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Argonath is a really wide open about everything, You can express your opinion on most of the topics but some matters doesn't require player's opinions like Unban requests... thats why your topic got locked...they don't want to hear you on this matter and they don't want you to cause a mess under one topic
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Yet i didn't see any mess or anyone trying to cause mess on it. People should be able to express their opinion about things such as unban, in cases complicated such as Luke's, Acika's, Emmett's, who were all part of this community for quite a long time, and fucked up. They deserve a chance to be back.
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Luke's
He's unbaned :P
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He's unbaned :P
Dam got there before me but yeah I was unbanned yesturday, diffrence with me was that was the first time banned and I am known not to be a repeat offender. Like I said in the last topic, shame Acika is banned ofcourse but we cannot do nothing about it, its the HQ's choice and if they feel they cannot have him back then they wont.
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Who remembers when unban requests were open for every one to reply ?
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The situation with Acika is being discussed. Instead of causing a disruption on the forum let us do what we need to do within HQ.
Fair enough?
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Who remembers when unban requests were open for every one to reply ?
Was saying this the other day it was hilarious.
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Yet i didn't see any mess or anyone trying to cause mess on it. People should be able to express their opinion about things such as unban, in cases complicated such as Luke's, Acika's, Emmett's, who were all part of this community for quite a long time, and fucked up. They deserve a chance to be back.
Your topic would cause a mess, provoking and insulting will be comming soon...
players tend to turn most of the usefull topics into a shitty arguements.
And yes I am sure the Staff is really interested in hearing your own opinion but not that way, this way they will only get them pissed and probably lock all topics you post... I don't think the Staff HQ wants to hear your attacks on them and on how they act. if you want to express your opinion you can always do it in a nice calm usefull way like messaging them on skype or on forum you can hold a great discussion with the man responsible on Acika's ban and see his perspective and express your perspective on the case.
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Dam got there before me but yeah I was unbanned yesturday, diffrence with me was that was the first time banned and I am known not to be a repeat offender. Like I said in the last topic, shame Acika is banned ofcourse but we cannot do nothing about it, its the HQ's choice and if they feel they cannot have him back then they wont.
congrats then and welcome back
The situation with Acika is being discussed. Instead of causing a disruption on the forum let us do what we need to do within HQ.
Fair enough?
meant no harm, just with seeing cyril instantly deny every acika's unban request, i started to feel that no one in the hq really cares, and that would be shame. fair enough ye.
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You say they're experienced and are here for a very long time.
That is a reason why you should deny them when they fuck up. Specially when you really give them a chance and two no matter how big or serious it was.
But good luck to everyone trying to get unbanned.
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Server bans that have been issued on players are up to the HQ for each respective community within Argonath to deal with and not by players. Just because some believe that a person deserves an unban after such a long time doesn't mean the player should be unbanned.
A player is always banned for a reason or reasons... Some cases are easy to handle with as they're just a one time thing, but some are trickier to handle with if it regards recurrences or simply other matters. Some cases just requires one HQ member's judgement and some requires everyone's attention. Therefore, if it requires everyone's attention it is taken up for discussion. When it is done a unanimous decision has been made.
As for Acika's ban that was discussed prior in the topic that got locked, no wonder why it got locked.
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I think it's bullshit for any ban to go on longer than 6 months maybe the HQ could sort this ban system out after their work on RS5. I am very impressed so far with the HQ and I believe if they keep on doing what they are doing we could potentially be forced to change the server slot to like 250 players!
My idea for the ban system would be this.
/kick = 15 mins ban from server
/tempban = 1-5 days ban from server (issued after either 2 kicks or 2 warnings in the same day)
/ban = Atleast 2 weeks, maximum 6 months (depending on the ban ofc)
/tempban is there to give the player a pre-caution to stop doing what they are doing as they may face up to 6 months out if they repeat the offence or even continue to rulebreak. This would work effectively because it would keep the players on their toes, always watching their behaviour to avoid a 1-5 day ban. They will monitor their actions to even avoid the kick!
For this ban system to work, HQ need to release a new set of rules for the public to read. In addition, the HQ itself need to agree to disagree on what is bannable and what isn't. One admin's dealing with carjacking might be a /tempban whereas one might be a kick.
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Maybe players should learn from the first ban, instead of getting banned dozens of times... :rolleyes:
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I think it's bullshit for any ban to go on longer than 6 months maybe the HQ could sort this ban system out after their work on RS5. I am very impressed so far with the HQ and I believe if they keep on doing what they are doing we could potentially be forced to change the server slot to like 250 players!
My idea for the ban system would be this.
/kick = 15 mins ban from server
/tempban = 1-5 days ban from server (issued after either 2 kicks or 2 warnings in the same day)
/ban = Atleast 2 weeks, maximum 6 months (depending on the ban ofc)
/tempban is there to give the player a pre-caution to stop doing what they are doing as they may face up to 6 months out if they repeat the offence or even continue to rulebreak. This would work effectively because it would keep the players on their toes, always watching their behaviour to avoid a 1-5 day ban. They will monitor their actions to even avoid the kick!
For this ban system to work, HQ need to release a new set of rules for the public to read. In addition, the HQ itself need to agree to disagree on what is bannable and what isn't. One admin's dealing with carjacking might be a /tempban whereas one might be a kick.
+1
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I think it's bullshit for any ban to go on longer than 6 months maybe the HQ could sort this ban system out after their work on RS5.
Length we ban people for won't change, those that end up banned for months have earned it by showing they cannot behave and play by the rules. Unlike RS4 where people got dozen's of chances (quite a few people we could name), RS5 we decided to move away from that.
As for any 'idea's to banning that'll be something HQ discuss in private when we see the need to discuss it. Regards to changes in the server rules, don't worry I've made some significant changes to include some of these 'made-up' rules that float around, in progress of discussing it out and see what we should keep/edit or remove once we come to a agreement they'll be changed in-game and on the forum.
Staff punish at their own discretion we don't really need a topic dedicated to 'punishments for different rulebreaks' if they see that the player's actions warrant a warning or a ban then they'll hand it out.
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I think it's bullshit for any ban to go on longer than 6 months maybe the HQ could sort this ban system out after their work on RS5. I am very impressed so far with the HQ and I believe if they keep on doing what they are doing we could potentially be forced to change the server slot to like 250 players!
My idea for the ban system would be this.
/kick = 15 mins ban from server
/tempban = 1-5 days ban from server (issued after either 2 kicks or 2 warnings in the same day)
/ban = Atleast 2 weeks, maximum 6 months (depending on the ban ofc)
/tempban is there to give the player a pre-caution to stop doing what they are doing as they may face up to 6 months out if they repeat the offence or even continue to rulebreak. This would work effectively because it would keep the players on their toes, always watching their behaviour to avoid a 1-5 day ban. They will monitor their actions to even avoid the kick!
For this ban system to work, HQ need to release a new set of rules for the public to read. In addition, the HQ itself need to agree to disagree on what is bannable and what isn't. One admin's dealing with carjacking might be a /tempban whereas one might be a kick.
lol what about players that keeps getting banned over and over for obvious reasons? I think Argonath is to nice on those.
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I think that you're completely right Rusty. Let the banevaders play, troll and DDoS the server.
Since i'm mentioned a few times in these topics, it's fine that i say a few words.
Permament ban is just yours(HQs) revenge because of my opposition towards the system.
Let's now go through some of my bans from current HQ members and have a good laugh together.
Murt - banned me cause i said "booya" when i blew up cops heli (i was a suspect) - (Kojak later dismissed the ban)
CBFasi - banned me cause i flew over LVAP (Air Div HQ) as suspect. I just dont know where am i supposed to take off and land.
Cyril (if i recall correctly) banned me cause i, in mid-fight, went to the ammu to buy more ammo cause i was out of it and returned back to the rp i was in from the start.
Devin - there was a fight going on and a guy who was a hacker (Corleone member) started running towards LSPD, i followed to finish the job. Another admin was previously informed and spectated from the start, but suddenly Devin logged in and decided to ban me for DM after spending just 30seconds on the server.
Leon - last ban - i got banned cause i made a bridge from interior to interior, them claiming it's used for DM while actually it never got used before by anyone for anything cause it wasn't even finished.
As we can see my bans are nothing special, i never did anything wrong to be made such a big deal of, it's just some of their personal problems with me and they will seek for any opportunity and excuse to ban me. The bans were usually occurring at the specific time - after i beat the hell out of Corleone or Cops, by the motto: "If you can't beat him, ban him"
On the other hand it's completely normal to see a guy who's leading Corleone, who is an admin (Abraham) to flame and insult the shit out of community's member - calling him a faggot and what not. It's normal to see current leaders going around topics with clear intentions to only provoke and insult others. It's normal to extinct veterans of the community who have contributed way more to this community than you all did together (Cofi named them on one topic).
I'm very sorry if you can't stand the fact that someone is more capable and smarter than you. Better start getting used to it if you already didn't.
For a change i hope that you will read this and take it like men and not to remove the post, issue a forum punishment and lock the topic.
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Acika, don't take me in a rude way but I loved when you
"Hey Ramo, we got to talk"
"/me takes out combat shotgun and shoots"
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To hell with Acika, unban Salmonella already
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Acika, don't take me in a rude way but I loved when you
"Hey Ramo, we got to talk"
"/me takes out combat shotgun and shoots"
You either have a very bad memory or you're really ignorant.
His group was attacking Luciano the whole day.
When i joined i called Ramo on the phone, told him i was coming and why, informing him about everything. 10 minutes later i found him, surrounded him and started talking. From the start he didnt pay much attention to me, refusing to rp, he was calling admins setting up a ban. Few moments later i got carkilled by his group member (Lil_Mama, who later apologized, but who cares now, Acika is banned, that's whats important :)) and then we opened fire.
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You either have a very bad memory or you're really ignorant.
His group was attacking Luciano the whole day.
When i joined i called Ramo on the phone, told him i was coming and why, informing him about everything. 10 minutes later i found him, surrounded him and started talking. From the start he didnt pay much attention to me, refusing to rp, he was calling admins setting up a ban. Few moments later i got carkilled by his group member (Lil_Mama, who later apologized, but who cares now) and then we opened fire.
Yeah man I'm ignorant sorry, and I don't really have a bad memory at all, I'm talking about the chatlogs I've seen from your unban request at that time.
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You either have a very bad memory or you're really ignorant.
His group was attacking Luciano the whole day.
When i joined i called Ramo on the phone, told him i was coming and why, informing him about everything. 10 minutes later i found him, surrounded him and started talking. From the start he didnt pay much attention to me, refusing to rp, he was calling admins setting up a ban. Few moments later i got carkilled by his group member (Lil_Mama, who later apologized, but who cares now) and then we opened fire.
This ain't your unban request, what's the point of all this?
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This ain't your unban request, what's the point of all this?
This aint any of your concern, what's the point of you in here ?
PS: I was blamed for something i didnt do, so i responded.
If you want attention, open up another topic.
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Yeah man I'm ignorant sorry, and I don't really have a bad memory at all, I'm talking about the chatlogs I've seen from your unban request at that time.
Did you see in chatlogs that i got carkilled ? Did you see in logs that i previously had a conversation over the phone with Ramo ? No, you didnt, because they post what goes in their favor.
You talk what other tell you to and what you would like to believe into,
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This aint any of your concern, what's the point of you in here ?
I'm a part of the community and have earned my place in it via proper behavior trough the years, I believe I can say what I want to say when I want to say.
Also, don't double post.
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You're the one who seems to be needing attention with all this "OMG Admins don't like me" whether they like you or not don't give em reasons to punish you, I'm sure they won't.
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Murt - banned me cause i said "booya" when i blew up cops heli (i was a suspect) - (Kojak later dismissed the ban)
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This topic concerns ban lengths and you might have been mentioned a few times, but it's not about you.
Banning someone for saying a word is an exaggeration and it was not that. I won't go into details. But the same attitude you display here is one of the reasons.
It was dismissed by Kojak as your actions fully didn't warrant a ban. But it was also said by him if your attitude would continue to be displayed and you would act the same a ban would definitely warrant the next time.
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Who needs netflix to watch a drama series
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Considering what you two are writing it seems like i was very rude towards you in game.
Oh right, you're a Sforza, i can totally understand you now.
And you Greasy, i still like your pictures in members pics section ;)
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And you Greasy, i still like your pictures in members pics section ;)
Just keep your hands above the desk when addressing me, kiddo.
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Who needs netflix to watch a drama series
Argonath is generally my drama series, GTA 5 Photos and Videos is my pornhub, :app:
Oh right, you're a Sforza, i can totally understand you now.
LOOOOOOOOOOOL, but you're a luciano.
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Considering what you two are writing it seems like i was very rude towards you in game.
Oh right, you're a Sforza, i can totally understand you now.
And you Greasy, i still like your pictures in members pics section ;)
What about Sforza? At least we can decently RP and we don't serve as human shields to other families. Please don't start this shitstorm about groups that have nothing to do with this. I was talking to you personally, not about your group. Don't talk such thing about a group as Sforza that has been around since 2006 with a great behaviour.
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This topic concerns ban lengths and you might have been mentioned a few times, but it's not about you.
Banning someone for saying a word is an exaggeration and it was not that. I won't go into details. But the same attitude you display here is one of the reasons.
It was dismissed by Kojak as your actions fully didn't warrant a ban. But it was also said by him if your attitude would continue to be displayed and you would act the same a ban would definitely warrant the next time.
Ban length ? That was like the 20th post in this topic suggesting that.
You would maybe want to check the first post of this topic and remind yourself that this topic is actually about me.
I personally got told by Kojak that the ban was invalid after checking all the facts and he pretty much blamed you on that one in public on my unban request and that doesnt happen very often, actually at all.
After that I completely understand your attitude towards me over the years and im not even mad.
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On the other hand it's completely normal to see a guy who's leading Corleone, who is an admin (Abraham) to flame and insult the shit out of community's member - calling him a faggot and what not.
Lol... The difference here being it's not normal; I did not try to justify my mistakes, I realized what I did wrong, I apologizes (repeatedly) minutes after it was done and took all consequences that followed without crying.
Jovanca knows very well that I regret what was said to him, I've told him repeatedly, and unlike you he seems to have gotten over it.
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conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.
I don't understand why you're allowed to post on these forums as it's normal for you to talk shit and spread lies.
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Ban length ? That was like the 20th post in this topic suggesting that.
You would maybe want to check the first post of this topic and remind yourself that this topic is actually about me.
I personally got told by Kojak that the ban was invalid after checking all the facts and he pretty much blamed you on that one in public on my unban request and that doesnt happen very often, actually at all.
After that I completely understand your attitude towards me over the years and im not even mad.
>years
Kid, you don't even have a whole year of game time without being banned in it, please do not talk about "The years". There is an Unban Request section in which you can explain all the HQ did wrong and how you are the almighty Emperor. Please do it there.
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Look son, wannabe admins everywhere.
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Lol... The difference here being it's not normal; I did not try to justify my mistakes, I realized what I did wrong, I apologizes (repeatedly) minutes after it was done and took all consequences that followed without crying.
Jovanca knows very well that I regret what was said to him, I've told him repeatedly, and unlike you he seems to have gotten over it.
I don't understand why you're allowed to post on these forums as it's normal for you to talk shit and spread lies.
I never talk lies, i never flame anyone, i just tell the truth and truth hurts.
I better not start listing what you told to me personally and still never apologized.
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This topic is about the locking of a topic. Could we please get back to that? (My popcorn is empty)
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>years
Kid, you don't even have a whole year of game time without being banned in it, please do not talk about "The years". There is an Unban Request section in which you can explain all the HQ did wrong and how you are the almighty Emperor. Please do it there.
Maybe you should do some research around by asking those who had the chance to meet the Emperor himself.
I'm popular cause of my doings, great victories over former groups for years.
I suggest you to continue exchanging the comments with me, maybe you become a little bit popular.
Look son, wannabe admins everywhere.
It looks like that.
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I would recommend getting back to the actual point of this topic...
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Maybe you should do some research around by asking those who had the chance to meet the Emperor himself.
I'm popular cause of my doings, great victories over former groups for years.
I suggest you to continue exchanging the comments with me, maybe you become a little bit popular.
You're popular because you're a regular in the unban section and for the numbers of members of Luciano. Not the quality of members, nor the quality of their roleplay. If you wish to be popular, become a politician, get yourself a hobby in real life, become an actor. Don't stick around in an online community, which you can't access InGame and in which most of the people tend to dislike you.
I do not wish to be popular, the times when I was popular in Argonath are long gone. But this ain't a popularity contest, kid. So relax and find something better to do with your life.
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And this is why players cant post anything related to unbans.
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this topic is hilarious
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You're popular because you're a regular in the unban section and for the numbers of members of Luciano. Not the quality of members, nor the quality of their roleplay. If you wish to be popular, become a politician, get yourself a hobby in real life, become an actor. Don't stick around in an online community, which you can't access InGame and in which most of the people tend to dislike you.
I do not wish to be popular, the times when I was popular in Argonath are long gone. But this ain't a popularity contest, kid. So relax and find something better to do with your life.
I dont even know why are you still here? You are just provoking Acika and Luciano.
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CBFasi - banned me cause i flew over LVAP (Air Div HQ) as suspect. I just dont know where am i supposed to take off and land.
You were banned for cop baiting. Flying repeatedly over a know police location at relatively low level to get cops to chase you.. if you wanted to escape (and if not the ban is even more justified) you should of flown elsewhere.
The length of the ban has been due to the repeated breaking of server rules, the disregard you have shown others, and the abuse of scripts to gain advantages that they was not intended for. There are likely other reasons also, but this is what I am aware of.
Moaning about a topic lock will actually not help, and players should understand that we as senior staff are not required to give reason, we could but we do not actually have to, although in a related topic locked yesterday I did put a response in, that is all you needed to know.
Your popularity is about going against the system, not for doing any good ... a rebel.. If you can prove that you are willing to work with the system instead of abusing it for your own wants and portraying the staff as the 'bad guys' then maybe we can consider a better future for you and the server.
The matter is with HQ staff, just do not make it worse..
The topic this matter should be discussed in is your own unban, and if that is locked then maybe players are having too much to say about something that they know too little abut other than what you have spun to them.
Btw... TOPIC LOCKED, it is not for player discussion