To tow locked and government cars.
People used it, and are using it as a way to troll cops.
A way to get suspected and a way to have fun over the expense of others.
I don't see why it's fun when I try to RP with someone.
And a towtrucker comes by, /tow and my car is gone.
Guy that I pulled over is like 'LALALALALALA' and drives off.
Noted.
I'm happy the script is back :rolleyes:
For all kind of abuse, think about it first, then act. For all kinds you can receive a punishment...
I can still tow unused police vehicles, which are locked.. back to the LSPD parking lot, right?I doubt anyone would make a big issue out of it if you do it to assist it, and actually roleplay with it. The issue is that people just drive by and /tow, steal the cop car just to annoy them.
I doubt anyone would make a big issue out of it if you do it to assist it, and actually roleplay with it. The issue is that people just drive by and /tow, steal the cop car just to annoy them.
If you are using a towtruck to move a vehicle you do not have the ability to move via driving, that COULD be considered script abuse, using features in the script to do something that script otherwise stops you from doing.
So is it against the rules to tow your truck to get to places faster?Easy to solve by scripting: make fuel consumption go up dramatically when towing large vehicles.
Seems like everybody is doing it and nobody's punishing them.
I can still tow unused police vehicles, which are locked.. back to the LSPD parking lot, right?
So is it against the rules to tow your truck to get to places faster?
Seems like everybody is doing it and nobody's punishing them.
Please define "could". In what context would that be?
The way I see it, towing a car you're not able to access by scripts (e.g. it's locked) is not abuse because you're not breaking the first script. You are not unlocking the car, you are moving a locked car. It's really no different than pushing locked cars away with another car, and that's isn't considered script abuse, is it? I cannot see this as scripts abuse, but rather as "emergent gameplay".
Not to mention the RP context that this functionality can be used in...
Person A owes Person B money. Person A doesn't want to pay. Person B takes a towtruck and forcefully relocates Person A's locked car as compensation until Person A pays Person B back his money.
Of course, Person A can just log off and then log back in to re-spawn the car, but that would actually be script abuse by definition, as he's logging off not to quit, but to utilise the car re-spawn script to get his car back.
Maybe the scripters could develop a script where you cannot tow:
• Locked cars
• Recent used cars
• Group cars
• Government cars (police, paramedic, fire department)
And that only mechanics can tow those cars if the owner wants them to.
Its not really hard determining whether what you're doing is to disrupt other players/groups or not.
This is why I think tow trucking should be limited to mechanics only! Easier for administration to spot rulebreaker and make mechanics more attractive.
Tow truck should be mechanic job only unless you buy your own tow truck.There shouldn't be need for scripts or admins needed to just act properly on a role play server. It's common sense not to go around /tow'ing anything or everything, if people can roleplay it then there's no issue, you can tow what ever you want.
It should be acceptable to return general government vehicles that have been abandoned. In terms of our own vehicles, park them normally and you wouldn't be a victim of the impound.
Your car has been impounded? /call 911
Trying to figure out some sort of script to stop the abusing though.. I'll post again shortly.
The thing is.... we shouldn't need to limit things... we shouldn't need to have these warnings. People should stop acting like f**cking idiots and realize this is a RP server or get out. People should be able to RP with self-constraint and discipline.That's not realistic though, absolutely any place that has a system of rules will also have those that will break them, whether it be accidentally or intentionally.
That's not realistic though, absolutely any place that has a system of rules will also have those that will break them, whether it be accidentally or intentionally.
There's a reason every country has police, basically.
The thing is.... we shouldn't need to limit things... we shouldn't need to have these warnings. People should stop acting like f**cking idiots and realize this is a RP server or get out. People should be able to RP with self-constraint and discipline.This would be my goddamn signature if I didn't already have one. I'll paste that code in a notepad somewhere on my desktop.
Without any names.... there are servers which don't have limitations in scripts (e.g police scripts) but have RP regulations that people follow and actually conform to.That doesn't make sense, you say that there are servers where people just follow the rules no problem but then attribute their success to being strict against rulebreakers.
Not unrealistic. Just not in Argonath apparently because we're to lenient
That doesn't make sense, you say that there are servers where people just follow the rules no problem but then attribute their success to being strict against rulebreakers.
So that server has rulebreakers, which means it must have "these warnings" just the same.
It also doesn't have idiots.
probs because of their registrationsystem
Valid thought ...Good Sir,
If you are using a towtruck to move a vehicle you do not have the ability to move via driving, that COULD be considered script abuse, using features in the script to do something that script otherwise stops you from doing.
You can be BANNED for script abuse... so towing a cop car, a fbi car, a locked car CAN see you banned if the admin wishes it...
If a federal rancher is parked in the middle of nowhere, and a person decides to leave it at LSPD instead of FBI HQ, then that's not a big deal.
If the FBI wants to use a HQ that has little to no security of their vehicles in general (as in, you can just drive to where the vehicles are spawned instead of accessing a gate), then it's their issue. They should know that there are criminal entities that would like to remove the whole of the FBI from the map and they should accept that.
Without any names.... there are servers which don't have limitations in scripts (e.g police scripts) but have RP regulations that people follow and actually conform to.Because these servers have clear rules for IC and O.O.C. which the people adapted to over time, making it easier for new players to follow.
Not unrealistic. Just not in Argonath apparently because we're to lenient
Okay so we have to run to LSPD or emergency situations or choose not to exit our vehicle because it might get towed away when we're inside a PD or building. Good point sir.
First of, not our choice. Second, we do have a gate at LVHQ but it simply doesn't even work. We have no choice in the matter whatsoever.
Leave Siren on.
Because these servers have clear rules for IC and O.O.C. which the people adapted to over time, making it easier for new players to follow.
Argonath chooses for 'no restrictions' and this is what you get. :)
The registration system can be copied and changed to own words lol
Because these servers have clear rules for IC and O.O.C. which the people adapted to over time, making it easier for new players to follow.
Argonath chooses for 'no restrictions' and this is what you get. :)
The registration system can be copied and changed to own words lol
If Argonath adopted rules like other servers or server in particular you'd just see a influx of punishments happening on the people who severely lack the understanding of what roleplay is and how it should be done. Not saying that would be a bad thing mind you.
If Argonath adopted rules like other servers or server in particular you'd just see a influx of punishments happening on the people who severely lack the understanding of what roleplay is and how it should be done. Not saying that would be a bad thing mind you.It's too late for a change this big, even though it's the only way - together with a fool-proof script - to get rid of the ''idiots'' who deny us from getting ''the nice things''.
Not exactly, a IC / OOC system doesn't essentially change the way players behave when they have no script restrictions / limitations. Understanding and respecting the rules and regulations, but also knowing the harsh consequences if these rules and regulations are not followed is the main reason people refrain from abusing the scripts. Besides that I think that Emmett made a valid point by saying that a server registration system creates a playerbase that can't just start up a VPN and rejoin the server once they're banned, as they would have to go through a long process each time they'd even attempt creating a account. Basically, this filters most of the players that have no understanding of what the server is about out of those other communities.You can get through the registration system and in-game in 15 minutes effortlessly.
However what Teddy said a page earlier is completely right, "Just not in Argonath apparently because we're to lenient". Argonath has had multiple cases of month-long DDoS-attacks by identified players that were basically in love with the server, but no longer allowed within the community. Those other communities that have a somewhat difficult registration method by having to be accepted through a application before being allowed on the server basically filtered out those idiots before they could even fall in love with their community.. hence the reason why the amount of rulebreakers and DDoS attacks are much lower there.
In my opinion, this is excessive.
This is a RP server. If users are caught towing vehicles illegally, the issue should be addressed through the proper route i.e. the SAPD.
Keep admins out of RP.
In my opinion, this is excessive.
This is a RP server. If users are caught towing vehicles illegally, the issue should be addressed through the proper route i.e. the SAPD.
Keep admins out of RP.
If Argonath adopted rules like other servers or server in particular you'd just see a influx of punishments happening on the people who severely lack the understanding of what roleplay is and how it should be done. Not saying that would be a bad thing mind you.If Argonath adopted rules like other servers why would anyone stick around? People like this server because the community isn't full of tryhard miserable sacks of shit like strict RP servers. Try to change the rules and you'll just have an inferior wannabe, not welcoming to those who don't like strict RP and not professional enough for those who do.
You can get through the registration system and in-game in 15 minutes effortlessly.
So is it against the rules to tow your truck to get to places faster?
Seems like everybody is doing it and nobody's punishing them.
Entering a different vehicle will lead to you now losing your cargo.
Only if it is a cargo vehicle, if I'm not mistaken.
Devin is saying that it has been changed. Entering any other vehicle other than your truck whilst carrying cargo, and it'll be lost.This is true. Already tested it and didn't like it :D
Or at least that's what I understood from his post.
Devin is saying that it has been changed. Entering any other vehicle other than your truck whilst carrying cargo, and it'll be lost.
Or at least that's what I understood from his post.
That's stupid ... do you mean that I will have to walk or carsurf because I managed to flip my truck with a 4k cargo?I had the same opinion as you, but then when u think about it, when u flip your truck that should be instant losing of cargo. It will make trucking abit harder, and we must admit its abit easy to make cash like that.
That's stupid ... do you mean that I will have to walk or carsurf because I managed to flip my truck with a 4k cargo?
That's stupid ... do you mean that I will have to walk or carsurf because I managed to flip my truck with a 4k cargo?You could hire a mechanic to tow it from somewhere to you, or to bring it onto its wheels if it's still intact.
If people drove responsibly perhaps their trucks would not get destroyed or tipped over?
Indeed, truckers should drive properly, not really a script manner.They shouldn't go full speed around corners on bridges, too many trailers have swam with the dolphins :(
What is the point on going full speed with a truck and trailer in a high populated area?
Then you will not flip it, if you keep a good driving, not a retarded one.
Police officers have no need to tow... they call a mechanic to tow!
IRL police dont even tow, they contract out to companies that can !
Impound divison... ok....
Police officers have no need to tow... they call a mechanic to tow!
IRL police dont even tow, they contract out to companies that can !
Why don't we just make a scripted job of towtruckers, if a car is on the road for more than 15minutes, you will get a "mission" to take it from there to the hanger and the owner of it have to pay a ticket to take it back (or just respawn lol).Script that is constantly detecting where each vehicle is at every second, for 15 minutes at a time. If it moves just an inch (car rams into it),... No...
That will avoid these turds abusing the script for their own fun and make people get little money from another scripted job..
Police officers have no need to tow... they call a mechanic to tow!Since when police don't tow cars ? IRL they always have their own tow trucks.
IRL police dont even tow, they contract out to companies that can !
We needn't mention "real life".
CBFasi, either give SAPD some money to hire a towtruck company (and I would expect no towtruck company to ask for anything less than decent money) or let police tow again.
I used to go and get police vehicles, tow them back. Or tow cars outside PD, Cityhall so that it's safer and legal...
Script that is constantly detecting where each vehicle is at every second, for 15 minutes at a time. If it moves just an inch (car rams into it),... No...Who said it's gonna be detected like that? Scripters know how to do their job, afaik.
Who said it's gonna be detected like that? Scripters know how to do their job, afaik.
Or give LSPD 1 or 2 LSPD Owned Towtrucks, Only able to be driven by ARPD Officers.
We needn't mention "real life".
CBFasi, either give SAPD some money to hire a towtruck company (and I would expect no towtruck company to ask for anything less than decent money) or let police tow again.
I used to go and get police vehicles, tow them back. Or tow cars outside PD, Cityhall so that it's safer and legal...
Illegaly = Towing a vehicle in a proper RP way, the vehicle was not supposed to be towed.If a gang or a police department can be "disabled" by someone with a towtruck, it is a sign that these people only call themselves gang members or cops.
Script abuse/ trolling/ etc = driving past a cop/ rival crew and towing their cars away while they RP by just typing /tow, or going in to the PD garage to tow all their cars to mountain chiliad.
Why not just have cops be more careful with their cars?
Why not just have cops be more careful with their cars?(https://i.imgur.com/Qzgmlm7.png)