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Title: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Lemzo on May 17, 2015, 11:25:14 am
AMD A10-7700K APU quad core 3.8ghz
ASUS® A58B-E FM2+
8GB Kingston DDR3 1600MHz
AMD Radeon HD 8000 / R7
500GB HDD
Corsair 350W VS Series VS-350

This in total would cost me £299/€413/$470 which is perfect financially.

Here is what I searched on youtube with the specs so it does the job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xncXe_pBPMw
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Luke on May 17, 2015, 01:46:47 pm
If its a APU you are getting, and you are also getting a GPU it wont workout, unless you disable the GPU on the CPU via BIOS.  ;)
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Fuzzy on May 17, 2015, 04:14:33 pm
If its a APU you are getting, and you are also getting a GPU it wont workout, unless you disable the GPU on the CPU via BIOS.  ;)
I believe they have the ability to work together?
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Janar on May 17, 2015, 04:44:45 pm
There is no need to turn off the GPU of the APU. If you do not hook up the display to the motherboard, it will not be used and the discrete card (HD 8000 / R7 in this case) will do the work just fine.

I believe you could get some better setup by going for different chipset/CPU socket (tl;dr different motherboard) and another CPU. Depending on the prices, you might be able to get second-hand good motherboard and even i5.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Lemzo on May 17, 2015, 05:29:10 pm
I could squeeze in funds to get the

AMD A10-7850K Quad Core APU (4.0ghz) and the ASUS A88XM-PLUS (M-ATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, 6Gb/s)
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: clancker on May 17, 2015, 07:54:43 pm
Well since there is already topic i want to ask about my build that i collected up and what you think.

Bottom: GB B85-HD3 /1150 - b85
Processor: XEON E3-1231V3/QUAD/3.4/8M/B0X.
RAM: 2X8G DDR3 1600 ADATA - 1600 MHz + 16GB RAM
SSD: SSD Samsung 850 EVO Series 120GB - Well you could ask why SSD and HDD together, well the plan is that i build it that way that SSD runs the OS and it's programs and functions.
HDD: HDD 1TB SATAIII WD Black 7200rpm 64MB
Video Card: GB N970G1 GAMING-4GD
Supply: PSU SEASONIC SS-620GB BRONZE
Box: Thermaltake VN900K1W2N Commander GS-II Black USB3
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Janar on May 17, 2015, 08:45:27 pm
Well since there is already topic i want to ask about my build that i collected up and what you think.

Bottom: GB B85-HD3 /1150 - b85
Processor: XEON E3-1231V3/QUAD/3.4/8M/B0X.
RAM: 2X8G DDR3 1600 ADATA - 1600 MHz + 16GB RAM
SSD: SSD Samsung 850 EVO Series 120GB - Well you could ask why SSD and HDD together, well the plan is that i build it that way that SSD runs the OS and it's programs and functions.
HDD: HDD 1TB SATAIII WD Black 7200rpm 64MB
Video Card: GB N970G1 GAMING-4GD
Supply: PSU SEASONIC SS-620GB BRONZE
Box: Thermaltake VN900K1W2N Commander GS-II Black USB3

First of all, what will you be doing with that PC?
Secondly, learn the terms before building stuff - know what is what, why is it needed, what it does etc. There is case, not box. There is motherboard, not bottom (it's not even at the bottom most of the time).

Why did you pick Xeon processor? These are meant for servers and workstations, not for gaming or casual users.
Also, how much RAM are you getting? 2x 8GB + 16GB or am I understanding your wording wrong?
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: clancker on May 17, 2015, 09:22:02 pm
First of all, what will you be doing with that PC?
Secondly, learn the terms before building stuff - know what is what, why is it needed, what it does etc. There is case, not box. There is motherboard, not bottom (it's not even at the bottom most of the time).

Why did you pick Xeon processor? These are meant for servers and workstations, not for gaming or casual users.
Also, how much RAM are you getting? 2x 8GB + 16GB or am I understanding your wording wrong?

1. I am building it mostly for gaming but i would use it for other things too.
2. I know the terms but in Bulgarian, so i just told them how they are in my language.
3. I got told that this processor would b perfect for gaming.
4. You got my words worng i am get only 16gb.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: brian1996 on May 17, 2015, 09:26:52 pm
Processor: XEON E3-1231V3/QUAD/3.4/8M/B0X.
Lmfao, a Xeon is for workstations and servers, not for consumers and games.
3. I got told that this processor would b perfect for gaming.
You got told wrong. They are terrible for gaming, infact they suck compared to my overclocked 4790k.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Janar on May 17, 2015, 09:51:03 pm
Go for an i5 if you stick to gaming. If you do video rendering/photo editing/3D stuff, then go for i7. Xeon is too much for normal consumers (and is lacking certain stuff).
Here is a video of Xeon or i7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ59vHSFfZA
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Lemzo on May 17, 2015, 09:59:25 pm
Well that escalated quickly..
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: zipp3r on May 17, 2015, 10:02:44 pm
If you do not have anything useful to say, don't post. - Janar
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Fuzzy on May 17, 2015, 10:12:41 pm
Lmfao, a Xeon is for workstations and servers, not for consumers and games.You got told wrong. They are terrible for gaming, infact they suck compared to my overclocked 4790k.
Wrong. That Xeon is exactly the same as a i7 4770 , Only difference being that it doesn't have a iGPU so it should (theoretically) be a couple bucks cheaper.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Janar on May 17, 2015, 11:23:41 pm
Wrong. That Xeon is exactly the same as a i7 4770 , Only difference being that it doesn't have a iGPU so it should (theoretically) be a couple bucks cheaper.

And the loss of overclocking possibility on Intel k-series processors.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Fuzzy on May 17, 2015, 11:38:44 pm
And the loss of overclocking possibility on Intel k-series processors.
But gaining vPro, VT-d and other useful virtualization technologies that are dropped on K chips.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Janar on May 17, 2015, 11:44:18 pm
But gaining vPro, VT-d and other useful virtualization technologies that are dropped on K chips.

Devil's Canyon ones (i7-4790k and i5-4690k) do have VT-d though.

That aside, to OP - If you do not miss out certain features (overclocking, VT-d, integrated GPU), you can go for Xeon one if money is a limitation.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Devin on May 17, 2015, 11:45:24 pm
But gaining vPro, VT-d and other useful virtualization technologies that are dropped on K chips.

That is true, but is he going to need any form of virtualization? I doubt it.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Fuzzy on May 18, 2015, 12:00:46 am
That is true, but is he going to need any form of virtualization? I doubt it.
I doubt it as well, but I was just listing the facts. If he wants to save a couple bucks on the CPU if he doesn't need overclocking or iGPU, then the Xeon is just as good choice as a 4770 or a 4790 would be.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: brian1996 on May 18, 2015, 12:14:02 am
I doubt it as well, but I was just listing the facts. If he wants to save a couple bucks on the CPU if he doesn't need overclocking or iGPU, then the Xeon is just as good choice as a 4770 or a 4790 would be.
If he wants to save a couple of bucks he SHOULDN'T buy a Xeon, instead buy a dedicated CPU that is ment for gaming/consumer use that is better and cheaper.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Fuzzy on May 18, 2015, 02:38:19 pm
If he wants to save a couple of bucks he SHOULDN'T buy a Xeon, instead buy a dedicated CPU that is ment for gaming/consumer use that is better and cheaper.
Did you even read anything I said? Or you just choose to ignore it because you see a "Xeon" in the sentence? Sigh.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Luke on May 18, 2015, 04:10:46 pm
As said before if you want to build a gaming PC to play GTA V straight up, you will be paying alot more then £300, if you do chose to go with the PC that you have just chosen you will not be able to get the full potential that the PC version of GTA V has in which it will really not be worth as you have a PS4, I myself primary bought GTA V due to the 60fps and the beautiful 1080p settings the game brings, my opnion, wait a little longer till you have a higher budget and go all out, or, do what I did, buy bit by bit it will be much worth it in the long run.

My opnion I cannot tell you not to, nor to go ahead with it.  ;) 
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: brian1996 on May 18, 2015, 08:53:09 pm
Did you even read anything I said? Or you just choose to ignore it because you see a "Xeon" in the sentence? Sigh.
Yes I did read and you're not making any sense.
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Lemzo on May 22, 2015, 02:15:43 am
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Will the 'HP stream 11' do the think? It's in the name itself but still want clarification :lol:

I'm going for a cheap laptop because I am at the library everyday and it is a pain in the ass to commute with my current laptop. Lightweight is also a feature I am going for. Realistically, the only thing that will be running on the laptop is a lightweight browser that has couple of tabs open including youtube and microsoft word. I doubt I'll even put anti virus on it. The XBMC/Kodi comes in when I need a little break from studies and would benefit watching an episode. Will this support 720p/1080p movies? Please get back to me!

http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=L0M36EA&opt=ABU&sel=PCNB
Title: Re: Opinions on this PC build?
Post by: Janar on May 22, 2015, 12:50:12 pm
It only has 32GB of storage. Windows will eat up large portion of it (about 20GB + updates and some other general files), leaving you with pretty much nothing.
Intel Celeron is quite low-end processor, I'd suggest looking for a newer Pentium, i3 or AMD. 2GB of RAM for a 64-bit Windows is not to be even considered IMO.

Not sure what you mean by support 720p/1080p movies. Pretty much any decent processor is able to playback one.
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