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GUN CONTROL
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" Allowing guns only only means that the person you will be defending yourself against might also have a gun "
A time has come that street criminals have overpowered authorities
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Danger of being shot is at every corner
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We, GCM, plan to limit weapons to only those who meet all the physical and mental requirements to have one.
IDEA
The idea of GCM is to ban certain use to civilians, and limit other firearms to licensed use only.
LICENSE TYPES
Class 0 ( No license )
Permits buying next items at AmmuNation shops:
- All meele weapons -
Police batton, katana, knife...
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- Vests -
Medium armor
Heavy armor
Class I.
Permits usage of next firearms:
- Basic self-defense weapons -
9mm pistols
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Class I. A
Class I. A allows attachment of certain accessories such as silencers.
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Class II.
Permits usage of next firearms:
- Hunting firearms -
Long-range rifles, shotguns
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Class II. B
Class II. B permits attachment of certain accessories such as scopes.
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Class III.
Class III. permits usage of armor-piercing handguns and submachine weapons.
Tec 9, SMG, Micro-SMG
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Class IV.
Class IV. weapons are restricted to sport usage only (e.g. shooting ranges) and governmental authorities ( SAPD divisions, Defense units, FBI... )
Assault Rifles and armor penetrating handguns
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OBTAINING A LICENSE
Your local police department is your licensing authority and can provide the forms and information needed to apply. We advise you to contact your Local PD before any actions are taken. They will identify the conditions that must be met before a firearms license is issued.
Imagined process of obtaining a license:
#1 Filling an application form with basic details
#2 Training with a firearms professional
#3 Background check
#4 Contacting your PD with confirmation that you have passed all the previous 3 steps in order to be granted a license
MOVEMENT STRUCTURE
FOUNDER:
SAPD Officer, Leon_Finlay
SUPPORTERS:
[NP]Dutchy
Deni_Chang
Alexander
[WS]Tovenarkee
[WS]Bruce
Huntsman
And not mr [NP]Ice_Araatus
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NOTE: You do not have to be on the list to be a supporter, everyone is welcome
(... Except for NRA members)
SPONSORS:
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Mr Alexander's Rusty Brown donut shop
NOTE TO SUPPORTERS:
CB CHANNEL:7667
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Why do you create a topic if you have nothing to put in it?
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A WIP topic isn't needed, but good luck anyway.
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Topic updated. My schedule is very busy, so I tend to forget things, that is why I made the topic, haha.
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Yes count me in! No more weapons for sick peopel! :cop:
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Who are you to tell me what I can and can't use. Sorry mate but that ain't happening and now I know who to whack. as long as I'm in the city.
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Who are you to tell me what I can and can't use. Sorry mate but that ain't happening and now I know who to whack. as long as I'm in the city.
Have to agree on this one.
Players should not be limited in what they can or can't do. I know everyone these days has AK's but yeah, thats just how it is.
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Ordinance II: Due to the requirement of protection against terrorism, against doers of wrong, of ones own property, and the protection of the states themselves, the government shall not reject the right of citizens to bear arms. However, no weapon shall be in open sight without lawful purpose. This does not apply to appointed law enforcement agencies unless directed otherwise by appropriate law enforcement officials.
From my cold, dead hands.
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I'm Class V "Mexican on heavy weaponry" I overpower all of you.
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That.. hahaha Anyway, Goodluck bro!
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please make nonsupporters and add me as leader thanks in advance
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From my cold, dead hands.
Yes, Section II, Ordinance II indeed allows you to bare weapons. But we
aren't trying to remove Ordinance II. We
aren't trying to ban guns from people. We are just trying to decrease the death rate. One aspect of that is making sure that
people who are dangerous and aren't meant to have a firearm don't get access to a firearm(s).
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Intresting :) Good luck.
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I will be honest with you, What you are trying to do is really hard... It's really a amazing initiative you're taking here and I really wish you the best of luck and you will have my full support on this.
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GUN CONTROL
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Peaceful Protest | Permission Request
We, GCM, Would like a permission to close the traffic in Pershing Square in order to have a peaceful protest.
I, Leon Finlay, Leader of the GCM, grant that no violent actions will be supported, and those who act violently in any way will be handed to the authorities.
FROM: Leon Finlay, GCM leader
TO: SAPD command
NOTE: I have got full ARA support for closing the traffic, it's all about your decision, SAPD Command.
P.S. Thanks for the support, folks :)
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You need no permission to protest, especially not from the SAPD. As per Argonath Constitution, Section II, Ordinance VI:
Ordinance VI: Every resident of the nation has the right to assemble as a group or club in a peaceful way. A group or club that gather on the public place shall not block the circulation wither it is on sidewalk or on the road unless it is a national holiday or that a judge or a police chief has allowed the gathering and disturbance of circulation. Details can be required from the judge or the police chief. If the organizer is not able to provide required details, the gathering could be cancelled. Any form of gathering cannot obstruct the entrance to a governmental or private propriety. Only strikes can obstruct the entrance of a public propriety.
As such, it is your constitutional right to protest, as long as you do not block the sidewalk, roads or entrances of government and private properties.
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Yes, I understand that, but number of protesters remains unknown to me until the final moment, so I can't be sure if we will or will not be interfering the traffic.
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Count me in as a supporter! Bring weapon licenses into affect!!
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yes please
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From: East Beach 7743, Dentico & Co. Law Bureau
To: Gun Control Movement management
Subject: Legal service
Hello Gun Control Movement management,
I'm writing to you behalf of the Dentico & Co. Law Bureau. We are really interested in representing your organisation and supporting your views on the current situation regarding the live ammunition licenses. We'd like to offer our legal advice and taking care of all the legal matters in order for this movement to achieve success throughout the long process. If you wish to set an appointment for more detailed conversation please contact our law bureau.
Partner Lawrence Dentico (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?action=profile;u=2618)- Phone 499889
Partner Mike Franklin (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?action=profile;u=5044) - Phone 285658
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Thank you for your offer, it has been noted. You may expect a phone call within the next few days.
Sincerely, leader of the GC movement, Leon Finlay
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Ya god damn commies!! :cowboy:
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From my cold, dead hands.
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It's not gonna be that easy as you're taking it But count me in for helping you out in it.
Good luck!
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Dentico & Co. Law Bureau
7743 East Beach Way
East Beach, Los Santos
To: Mr. Leon Finlay
Re: Argonath Gun Control Movement
Mr. Finlay, it has been approximately a week since my partner Mr. Lawrence Dentico approached you regarding representation for all legal matters involved in pursuing your claims to require federal regulation and licensing of fire arms through the United States of Argonath. To this present date, we have not heard back from you, or we may have missed your call. If you are still interested in pursuing this motion further, please feel free to send an e-mail (forum PM attach both myself and Whiteman) to our firm and we can discuss in more depth on how we can accurately articulate our claims to the Supreme Court of the United States of Argonath. We look forward to hearing from you on this matter.
Sincerely Yours,
Dentico & Co. Law Bureau
Joseph Hawk
Joseph Hawk
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TL;DR - Law Enforcement use M4's whilst we only have Deagles.
Expect to be confronted about this matter. :war:
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TL;DR - Law Enforcement use M4's whilst we only have Deagles.
Expect to be confronted about this matter. :war:
Here's a thought, don't commit a crime that requires confrontation with law enforcement.
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TL;DR - Law Enforcement use M4's whilst we only have Deagles.
Expect to be confronted about this matter. :war:
love when you get suspected for evading ts and fbi rolls up and blasts your car :lol:
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love when you get suspected for evading ts and fbi rolls up and blasts your car :lol:
Believe it or not I died for verbally assaulting a LEO. Was in a shitty state car and unarmed. :lol:
Here's a thought, don't commit a crime that requires confrontation with law enforcement.
Last time I checked, this is GTA. Most of the /su's are either abused, invalid anyway.
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Last time I checked, this is GTA. Most of the /su's are either abused, invalid anyway.
As crazy as this sounds GTA is simply a game engine, Argonath is a roleplay server, regardless if you believe someone has been abused or suspected invalid there is a simple way to avoid confrontation with police and weapons. /gu is a crazy concept developed isn't it
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As crazy as this sounds GTA is simply a game engine, Argonath is a roleplay server, regardless if you believe someone has been abused or suspected invalid there is a simple way to avoid confrontation with police and weapons. /gu is a crazy concept developed isn't it
How would you expect a Yakuza member to behave? Sit down for a coffee and talk about our domestic problems? ''Hey Jay, what pipe should I buy for my renovated bathroom?''
/gu is a waste of time since it is more time consuming then being jailed. It's not the fact that I will be jailed it is the fact that I don't want to be jailed for some bullshit reason.
It's bad enough we often get /su abused, the least we can do is protect ourselves with the weapons that they use against us. Ronaldo vs a 13-year old kid is fair am I right?
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How would you expect a Yakuza member to behave? Sit down for a coffee and talk about our domestic problems? ''Hey Jay, what pipe should I buy for my renovated bathroom?''
/gu is a waste of time since it is more time consuming then being jailed. It's not the fact that I will be jailed it is the fact that I don't want to be jailed for some bullshit reason.
It's bad enough we often get /su abused, the least we can do is protect ourselves with the weapons that they use against us. Ronaldo vs a 13-year old kid is fair am I right?
I simply stated that you can avoid police confrontation if you don't break the law or if you decide you'd rather break the law do so under the radar. In pretenses the mob and the Yakuza do things under the radar to not attract attention to themselves, but rather away from themselves.
/gu is the first step to being jailed how could it possibly be a waste of time? That makes not an ounce of sense, unless of course you are close enough to the cell to be jailed without using the command, either way you're tacking on a few seconds? That's not a reasonable justification. Just because you decide to /gu also doesn't mean you are being jailed for a "bullshit" reason per say, the first step to requesting an investigation if you feel you have been wronged is to /gu and believe it or not when you are investigated, and they realize they made a mistake you are unsuspected, so not exactly a waste of time or being jailed for a "bullshit" crime as you call it.
No one said you couldn't use them to protect yourself, it places a restriction on who can use them, while the licensing suggest that high powered riffles can only be used on riffle ranges, that doesn't mean that you can't still take them into public, this might hold a higher jail sentencing.. If you ever thought Argonath would allow guns to be restricted in that manner you have no idea what Argonath really stands for.
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You never tought about the black market did you? If the citizen can't purchase certain weapons they will get them smuggled across the borders, this would have to be scripted but why the hell would you create more work for the scripting team as it hasn't got much use at all..
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We need gun policing right now! We cannot have 10-15 armed men like for today treating the national security while cops can just watch them shooting each other to death.
- Increase price on weapon with 75%
- Add a gun license for legal people to wear firearm. Can be revoked if being used wrongful, by cops/court/whatever..
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Then cops should do something, no ?
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Then cops should do something, no ?
The cops already doing something, we need other measures.
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A weapon license will do just fine. I would highly recommend adding a weapons license script. It'll help with rp... Just kidding. It's needed because weapons at this point are simply to easy to acquire and there is certainly no limitations to it. And as suggested by Gobbii, if the weapons are being misused(solely for dming) then the license should be revoked.
It would also be interesting if there would be a way to acquire SOME weapons illegally and if you are caught with them you can face severe consequences(legally).
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Hmm. Class II B, should be implemented to Class IV since it's a armor penetrating 50 cal. rifle, so to obtain it, should require the Class IV as well.
A weapon license will do just fine. I would highly recommend adding a weapons license script. It'll help with rp... Just kidding.
You are actually correct.
For people who fail to, or don't want to be on the record for having a firearms license, it would open a hole new side to criminal factions with an addiction of Weapon dealing and trafficking.
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Everyone is complaining how they won't have guns after they become illegal..
OH PLEASE.
Drugs became illegal in Argonath a long time ago, but you still use them.. A LOT.
In fact, this would open a whole new side to you illegal dudes, ever thought of getting a license, buying guns, and then selling them to street junkies for a bigger price?
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In fact, this would open a whole new side to you illegal dudes, ever thought of getting a license, buying guns, and then selling them to street junkies for a bigger price?
What we do usually between each other, duh.
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You can simply get a good attorney and make a proposal to the supreme court regarding this.
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From my cold, dead hands.
+1 :war:
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Leon Finlay, character that has been leading this has been CK'd.
If anyone wishes to take over this project, please contact me on forums or IG.