Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: jovanca on July 08, 2015, 11:50:27 pm
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It has come to my attention, more and more lately, that people consider GSF a 'combat out of ass' family and things such as that. Since we opened it we tried to improve ourselves and people around us. We tried to roleplay our characters realisctically and keep the roleplay alive on argonath and i believed till recently that we as well succeed, but obviously people do not agree with me.
I would like to see what the others think about Grove Street Families, what could we do to improve ourselves and what do you mind the most about GSF
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Get rid of the clantag and go with firstname_lastname. You either do it good or not at all.
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I do not exactly where this thought came from, but i rememberd the time RS5 had no Roleplay at all or at a all time low, this time we (Re)started GSF, and upped the RP level, and after some weeks/months other players and groups starting to up their RP level etc.
Now we are a little more inactive due to allot of members having a good Real life, we try to maintain the RP standard, but we are confronted with new groups being hostile, NBA/Ballas trying to overrule their position etc, we are not against that, but we want GOOD Roleplay.
But in your eyes, what do we do? what do we do good, what do we do wrong?
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Get rid of the clantag and go with firstname_lastname. You either do it good or not at all.
We maintain with the standards from [GSF] As it originally existed. With a tag.
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Get rid of the clantag and go with firstname_lastname. You either do it good or not at all.
People should stop judging others on their displayed name.
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Just keep it positive in here, It's not "blabla flame/offtopic" topic, we want to know, what do you think? as we still want to improve.
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About the name thing, we all have our roleplay names, the in-game name means nothing really. I had shit from a lot of ppl cos i was [GSF]J for some time, and i did that simply cos when i meet people (talking about roleplay scenes) i always inroduce myself as 'J' or 'Big J' yet when i meet them again they all call me 'Jov'
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Stop relying on the opinions of others to determine whether or not you're doing good as a group. The leaders of GSF know as well as anyone else what improvements need to be made, what members need to be removed (if any), and how to properly roleplay and continue to strive for better roleplay in their group, and contributing to the community.
This is a huge problem where everyone relies on the opinions of others to be successful as a group and that is a huge misconception. Do what you know how to do, you can only control certain aspects of your group, and the opinions of others is not one of them. A famous quote I've always lived by and should be practiced by others is this: "The opinions others have of you, is none of your business."
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Stop relying on the opinions of others to determine whether or not you're doing good as a group. The leaders of GSF know as well as anyone else what improvements need to be made, what members need to be removed (if any), and how to properly roleplay and continue to strive for better roleplay in their group, and contributing to the community.
This is a huge problem where everyone relies on the opinions of others to be successful as a group and that is a huge misconception. Do what you know how to do, you can only control certain aspects of your group, and the opinions of others is not one of them. A famous quote I've always lived by and should be practiced by others is this: "The opinions others have of you, is none of your business."
Doesn't take away we still value opinions from other people, including your opinion.
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Doesn't take away we still value opinions from other people, including your opinion.
Of course I understand that completely and I wouldn't take that right away from you guys. It's just an adhered warning, don't fixate all of your energy on the opinions of others. Personally I've always liked GSF, and I don't know where the ideas of to simplify it, a DMing group may have emerged, but I never saw that in GSF, and I can't possibly believe that to be true.
I guess moving forward, take a look at your members and how they act ingame, this doesn't only mean in RP scenarios, but see how they interact with others in main chat, on the forum, attitude problems that start out of a roleplay scenario, for example in a general discussion in chat, can easily transpire into bad behavior in roleplay scenes. Besides member management, I don't see an issue.
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You're all good and I like you to the fullest. From what I've seen, you're doing pretty good and it's fun to see you guys around.
You got a lovely neighborhood with a lot of possibilities and with the new drug script incoming, you should to your things carefully and wise if your direction will be more focused on that area.
To give you guys some criticism,
I can feel that Grove Street Families should be renamed and recreated to something related to 2015. It feels a bit outdated, imo.
But I never felt or seen you guys as death matchers. Dunno where that came from.
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Of course I understand that completely and I wouldn't take that right away from you guys. It's just an adhered warning, don't fixate all of your energy on the opinions of others. Personally I've always liked GSF, and I don't know where the ideas of to simplify it, a DMing group may have emerged, but I never saw that in GSF, and I can't possibly believe that to be true.
I guess moving forward, take a look at your members and how they act ingame, this doesn't only mean in RP scenarios, but see how they interact with others in main chat, on the forum, attitude problems that start out of a roleplay scenario, for example in a general discussion in chat, can easily transpire into bad behavior in roleplay scenes. Besides member management, I don't see an issue.
Indeed, but we hear things..
Though indeed member management is something we should work on, that's a positive thing sky! thanks :)
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To give you guys some criticism,
I can feel that Grove Street Families should be renamed and recreated to something related to 2015. It feels a bit outdated, imo.
Thanks Que! :)
And indeed, that could be something, but that would be a future introduction, we are based (if not the same) as the [GSF] from 2007, that's why we still use the same Tag and name.
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I always enjoyed the RPs with Grove as an officer.
I've never seen you guys DMing.
Grove isn't always active but that's fine, nor am I :D
You all get tired in a foot pursuit, trip over something or RP our baton hits.
I really like that in Grove, you all aint superman and bunnies. (As you can see in my SWAT vids vs Grove)
Keep it up!
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I always enjoyed the RPs with Grove as an officer.
I've never seen you guys DMing.
Grove isn't always active but that's fine, nor am I :D
You all get tired in a foot pursuit, trip over something or RP our baton hits.
I really like that in Grove, you all aint superman and bunnies. (As you can see in my SWAT vids vs Grove)
Keep it up!
that's Really positive, appreciate that! :)
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I used to be a GSF member myself and it was actually quite good. I believe you guys are improving every day.
Also there's quite a big diffirence between this "hiding combat in someones ass" and between your ways of roleplay.
Tag doesn't matter at all, what matters is that you people stay loyal to the gang and stick together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaM6_yiUchw
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Thank you all or the positive replies.
@SkyHawk i myself do not always behave (not speaking rp-wise) as i should. I actually got anger management issues (not related to argonath), so thats the reason why i go crazy sometimes, and i agree thats something we should work on - yet thats not a reason to be called a 'combat out of ass' or anything like that, especially cos GSF didn't allow combat as weapon since the day it was opened, and we also enforce rules such as roleplaying every action done by our characters and we dont even allow bunny hopping in roleplay scenes, even shootouts, unless the opposite side is bunny hopping as well.
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I love GSF, RPed with you lads both as a cop and as a gangster ( back in the days ).
You guys arent too agressive when it comes to shootouts (atleast from what I've seen as a cop) and dont realy care about the result of that shootout, you let it roll as it should.
Then again, nothing could go wrong with an RP group led by Seskom.
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people should stop judging and actually play the game.. not just sit behind a Computer screen crying about other families/groups
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Shouldn't matter what others think. If Gvardia worried about things like that we would've closed down long ago.
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Just do your best. Roleplay and have fun. This is not something you can follow step by step on how to be a good clan or gang. As I remember GSF back in the day, they created it to have fun, and show other players what gang or group they represent, and feel proud while doing so. Shouldnt matter what anyone thinks of you. My guess is if you are reopening GSF which was one of best groups at its time, to maintain the same professionalism that they had, you are already doing a good job. They were fantastic role players, and they just did it to have fun.
If you continue on the same path GSF originally started on, you will do great. And dont ever let anyone tell you different.
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Just do your best. Roleplay and have fun. This is not something you can follow step by step on how to be a good clan or gang. As I remember GSF back in the day, they created it to have fun, and show other players what gang or group they represent, and feel proud while doing so. Shouldnt matter what anyone thinks of you. My guess is if you are reopening GSF which was one of best groups at its time, to maintain the same professionalism that they had, you are already doing a good job. They were fantastic role players, and they just did it to have fun.
If you continue on the same path GSF originally started on, you will do great. And dont ever let anyone tell you different.
it has been a year since we opened the group, we hit recognized after 3-4 months of existence. we're for sure not gonna close down cose people are hating, theyve been hating in past year as well, i just want to hear opinion of the others as well.
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Its only upto a group to decide/describe weather they are doing good or not because there are many who would love to give out comments full of hatred.
The very first thing is their activity...a active group would most likely to be recognized by everyone but activity alone does not mean everything because a group must participate actively in roleplays as well. However a roleplay always ending up in shootout would most likely leave out a positive impression over newbies while it can hit or threaten other players(good ones) from that group and outside. ( and indeed the watchout from administration )
I've never really role-played with GSF before so i can't judge nor i should because a active group itself can tell the whole story.
Take this for example : active group ---> roleplays ---> new recruits ----> traning(essential) for new recruits ----> more active participation in roleplays ----> and ultimately you will end up having the best family in argonath.
The above example is only good at saying but a way lot more stuffs are required to make your dreams come true about your family.
Good Luck for your future.
regards,
Heller
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I think that GSF has been a great group, making a great effort in bringing back the roleplay to the server when they started with classic serious roleplays worth of Argonath's legacy. But even with the bright return that had, (completely free to say it as I was part of them by the beginning) I have to admit that it's loosing his path on what the group was before, the objectives that were made by start are no longer there, at least from my perspective.
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GSF have always been a quality organization. You guys have managed to create an atmosphere around Grove Street, and not every Grove group was able to do that. What happened with the Ten Green Bottles earlier this year started out bad, but the way things work out only proved the quality of GSF to me.
Keep it going, hopefully I'll get to RP with you guys soon.
Cheers,
Your friendly neighborhood.
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GSF is great, just struggling with my activity for now which im sure will get better in the course of time. been doing my best since i joined GSF and will continue to do so till the end. i did tell adam and jov after joining the group, GSF is the first and last group i will be joining in argonath, and goddamn right it is.
the group leaders promote discipline in every way, i have learned a lot during the time and have also proved myself to the black men. being realistic in character/roleplay at all times has been the key element to GSF's lasting foundation, i enjoy every moment.
i dont blv in competition between roleplaying groups, competition and cooperation dont go realy well together.
keep it real, nam sayin' :weed:
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I think that GSF has been a great group, making a great effort in bringing back the roleplay to the server when they started with classic serious roleplays worth of Argonath's legacy. But even with the bright return that had, (completely free to say it as I was part of them by the beginning) I have to admit that it's loosing his path on what the group was before, the objectives that were made by start are no longer there, at least from my perspective.
thank you for honest answer but i'm trying to find out what exactly in people's opinion are we doing wrong, could you be more specific abou bolded part?
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I think that GSF has been a great group, making a great effort in bringing back the roleplay to the server when they started with classic serious roleplays worth of Argonath's legacy. But even with the bright return that had, (completely free to say it as I was part of them by the beginning) I have to admit that it's loosing his path on what the group was before, the objectives that were made by start are no longer there, at least from my perspective.
as one of those who where starting up the group i have to agree with taco here, one of the things i dislike was the massrecruiting of new members, it wasn't the "process" with approaching the gang for several days and making your way in anymore
doesn't mean i dislike what you do on the server! just an honest opinion
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as one of those who where starting up the group i have to agree with taco here, one of the things i dislike was the massrecruiting of new members, it wasn't the "process" with approaching the gang for several days and making your way in anymore
doesn't mean i dislike what you do on the server! just an honest opinion
the roleplay part of the process is still he same as it was the first day. we do have an application form but people are not even forced to apply, it was just to make i easier for us who wants to join us and to have a view at person's capability of having a realistic character with decent history and character developement. mass recruiting sounds kinda too harsh as we do not accept anyone who cant roleplay and/or respect our rules (server rules included)
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For my taste you're too serious about roleplaying. Show some real emotions.