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Title: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: FrankSerin on July 27, 2015, 12:45:16 am
(http://mgi.argonathrpg.com/publicaccess/MGILOGO.png)

The Ministry of Good Intentions



Introduction:

The Ministry of Good Intentions, commonly referred to as MGI, is a military organization founded in 2008. Through the years, the organization has been under the command of several leaders, but has always remained to keep their ultimate goal of protecting the citizens of Argonath from foreign and domestic threats. While not always visible to the public, the Ministry of Good Intentions is always doing their part in making sure they are prepared and readily available for any situation that they may encounter.

The Role of MGI in the State of Argonath:

A commonly asked question is, "What exactly is MGI's role in Argonath? Are you basically police?" The answer to that question is yes, but also no. While the Ministry of Good Intentions is classified as a law enforcement organization, we are not your typical 'police force.' While we do have the ability to suspect civilians, and to appear as law enforcement to the public, we do not enforce the common laws within the state. You will not see us patrolling the streets or pulling people over for speeding. The MGI will only respond to situations that absolutely need us there. Our response to a situation will be based on the situation itself and will rely on the discretion of the highest ranking MGI member at that time.

Requirements to Join the Ministry of Good Intentions:

The Ministry of Good Intentions is very strict on the members that will join the ranks of the organization. Due to the amount of sensitive and classified information, we have to be as sure as possible to insure the safety of our files, members, and the citizens of the state of Argonath. The requirements to join the Ministry of Good Intentions are as followed:

     - Must have a passport and a license.
     - Must be able to understand and speak English.
        - (Doesn't have to be perfect, as long as you are understandable.)
     - Cannot be part of a crime family or criminal group.
        - (May cause conflict of interest.)
     - Cannot be in another division of law enforcement.
        - (May create a conflict during operations or assistance calls.)
     - Must be able to prove that you can work well with others and are able to follow orders you have been given.
     - Must be able to communicate with citizens of Argonath in a clear and respectable manner.
(Requirements are subject to change without notice.)

Becoming a member of the Ministry of Good Intentions:

The Ministry of Good Intentions prides itself on recruiting the best of the best.
If you think you have what it takes, Click here to apply! (http://mgi.argonathrpg.com)

Where is the Ministry of Good Intentions Located?:

The Ministry of Good Intentions is located at Area 69 in the heart of Bone County. The grounds and airspace within the gates of Area 69 restricted to authorized personnel only. Any civilian that enters the compound while a member of MGI is there will be given one verbal warning. If they fail to comply with the warning, lethal forced may be used to protect sensitive material. All guests must be authorized by the highest ranking member of MGI that is available at that time. 

Letter from the General:

To the citizens of the state of Argonath,

     It is with great pleasure to finally reactivate the Ministry of Good Intentions, and take part in the protection of the state and those that call it home. I want to give you my word that we will do everything we can within our power to live up to, or exceed, the expectations that you may have set for this organization. I will do my best to train the soldiers under my command to be professional and well mannered towards the citizens we vow to protect. I want to extend my hand in gratitude to those that support the MGI and have continued to support us even during the time we were deactivated. Please keep in mind that we have recently been reactivated so we are in the process of getting members. It may be a little while before you see much from us as we are short on numbers. The Ministry of Good Intentions will never be about the quantity of members, but the quality of the members protecting Argonath.  For any questions or comments, please contact me at mgi.argonathrpg.com. I will do my best to reply back as soon as I can.

Signed,
General F. Serin
Ministry of Good Intentions
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Axison on July 27, 2015, 01:10:56 am
Good luck poo
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: beLTa on July 27, 2015, 01:26:07 am
Finally... it's opening..

Good luck!  :app:
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Hady. on July 27, 2015, 01:30:35 am
I already told you in-game..

But, Good luck once again, mate.
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on July 27, 2015, 01:31:52 am
Seems promising, good luck :) !
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Yasko on July 27, 2015, 02:46:06 am
MGI :eek:, good luck.
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Bruce. on July 27, 2015, 09:24:47 am
Good luck Frankie!!! :)
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Trevor. on July 27, 2015, 09:32:03 am
Good Luck man..
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Marcel on July 27, 2015, 09:42:15 am
We welcome you as a fellow protector of the United States of Argonath. Let's salute to a bright future!
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Aiden. on July 27, 2015, 09:46:28 am
Good Luck mate  :app:
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: LeHott on July 27, 2015, 10:09:49 am
So excited, best of wishes!! ;)

P.S. I think you should fix the application template so only registered forum members can apply, since as of now, there could be impersonation.

E.g. someone could write my name in the application, and then fill it with shit.
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Spike. on July 27, 2015, 02:42:32 pm
Good Luck
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Heller on July 28, 2015, 05:48:50 am
Good Luck!
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: blackmoon on July 28, 2015, 07:41:10 am
Best of luck
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Manoni on August 02, 2015, 09:41:42 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/lduy0Nj.png)
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Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Shahbaz. on August 03, 2015, 12:11:51 am
 :war: :war: :war: Gud luck
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: beLTa on August 06, 2015, 04:49:05 pm
Great screens, Manoni!
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: #Insanity on August 08, 2015, 07:39:33 pm
As a official group you should work more on graphic side of topic...

Best Of Luck
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: FrankSerin on August 08, 2015, 07:48:09 pm
I understand that a lot of people want to see a pretty, and exciting topic with pictures and headers, and stuff like that... But that is what our forums are for. This is clean and simple so the public can see what we do in the server and get an idea of who we are. This isn't really the main area where we try to get people to apply and stuff like that so the 'flare' if you will, is mainly focused on our personal forums.
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Tiny on August 09, 2015, 12:49:10 pm
You can still make it look better though. :P

Good luck!
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Manoni on August 12, 2015, 12:49:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/lfKhohc.png)
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Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Axison on August 12, 2015, 01:18:24 pm
Nice screens!
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: MrPedro on August 16, 2015, 01:08:30 pm
Best of Luck !  :app: :app:
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Corey. on August 16, 2015, 01:10:21 pm
Good Luck for your group.
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on August 16, 2015, 09:07:30 pm
Seems promising, best of luck.
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Manoni on August 21, 2015, 06:36:34 am
Today's convoy
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Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Stof. on August 21, 2015, 07:01:30 am
Don't give up, looks awesome already bro!
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Manoni on August 26, 2015, 02:39:29 am
(http://i.imgur.com/a8zQmaj.png)



Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: KhornateMonkey on September 24, 2015, 06:23:42 pm
(http://mgi.argonathrpg.com/publicaccess/MGILOGO.png)




Ministry of Good Intentions
Applications now open!
This is a official statement from the Ministry of Good Intentions       



Requirements to Join the Ministry of Good Intentions:

The Ministry of Good Intentions is very strict on the members that will join the ranks of the organization. Due to the amount of sensitive and classified information, we have to be as sure as possible to insure the safety of our files, members, and the citizens of the state of Argonath. The requirements to join the Ministry of Good Intentions are as followed:

     - Must have a passport and a license.
     - Must be able to understand and speak English.
        - (Doesn't have to be perfect, as long as you are understandable.)
     - Cannot be part of a crime family or criminal group.
        - (May cause conflict of interest.)
     - Cannot be in another division of law enforcement.
        - (May create a conflict during operations or assistance calls.)
     - Must be able to prove that you can work well with others and are able to follow orders you have been given.
     - Must be able to communicate with citizens of Argonath in a clear and respectable manner.
(Requirements are subject to change without notice.)

Become a member of the Ministry of Good Intentions:

The Ministry of Good Intentions prides itself on recruiting the best of the best.
Click here (http://mgi.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?action=form;n=2) to fill out your application.

If you have any questions, contact public relations (http://mgi.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=3956) or alternatively create a post below.

Signed, Captain Redmond, P.H (KhornateMonkey)
MGI PUBLIC RELATIONS
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Stivi on September 24, 2015, 07:56:26 pm
Do you determine if one is a criminal OOC or?
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: KhornateMonkey on September 24, 2015, 08:05:34 pm
Do you determine if one is a criminal OOC or?

The Ministry of Good Intentions is very strict on the members that will join the ranks of the organization. Due to the amount of sensitive and classified information, we have to be as sure as possible to insure the safety of our files, members, and the citizens of the state of Argonath. We determine if one is a criminal both IC and OOC. Players being seen in game committing multiple criminal acts, have a reputation for being a criminal, or being part of a criminal group will not be accepted.
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Stivi on September 24, 2015, 09:19:44 pm
The Ministry of Good Intentions is very strict on the members that will join the ranks of the organization. Due to the amount of sensitive and classified information, we have to be as sure as possible to insure the safety of our files, members, and the citizens of the state of Argonath. We determine if one is a criminal both IC and OOC. Players being seen in game committing multiple criminal acts, have a reputation for being a criminal, or being part of a criminal group will not be accepted.
It sucks to judge someone by their tag. Good luck.
Title: Re: The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: FrankSerin on September 24, 2015, 11:08:34 pm
It sucks to judge someone by their tag. Good luck.

We use /groups and basic knowledge of seeing and hearing about who a person associates with. It is a public form of seeing what groups a person is affiliated with so we will use it to every advantage we can.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: beLTa on November 30, 2015, 08:14:08 pm
Why did you close it? You could take that far but anyways, good luck for the future!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Teddy on December 08, 2015, 02:01:57 am
HQ officially revokes official status and script support for MGI.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 10, 2015, 07:32:26 pm
Is MGI dead?And if it is, why?

Why are you dead OR why has your script support been removed and official status?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Paco on December 10, 2015, 08:27:15 pm
Is MGI dead?And if it is, why?

Why are you dead OR why has your script support been removed and official status?
Yes, because their respective leaders saw no real purpose with it. It was given a trial official status along with script support if they managed to keep active and create a proper organization.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Salmonella on December 13, 2015, 02:58:31 pm
For what it's worth I think MGI did a good job at what they did. Had fun most of the time roleplaying with you and it's a shame it ended so quickly. This incarnation of MGI definitely paid good tribute to the old days with EliteTerm and Cane.

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 13, 2015, 05:23:14 pm
MGI might come back.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Mikal on December 13, 2015, 05:24:33 pm
MGI might come back.
Oh yeah? :uhm:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Bruce. on December 13, 2015, 05:33:20 pm
I think to bring it back you need permission from the previous leader of it.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Kostas on December 13, 2015, 05:38:07 pm
MGI might come back.

You keep on creating things ... I seriously thin that you should join an organisation instead. And climb it's ranks if leading is what you're in for. But have some fun, learn the things you want to create first.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 13, 2015, 05:57:34 pm
I have permission from Frank.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Allison on December 13, 2015, 06:05:44 pm
For what it's worth I think MGI did a good job at what they did. Had fun most of the time roleplaying with you and it's a shame it ended so quickly. This incarnation of MGI definitely paid good tribute to the old days with EliteTerm and Cane.

Thanks guys.
The post-Ravenwood days were awfully nice. Still miss Ravenwood, actually. Had a lot of fun when I was in it with a ton of veterans.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: TiMoN on December 13, 2015, 06:52:53 pm
I have permission from Frank.
You need to stick to a group, I seriously doubt HQ will consider giving you the group if all you'd do is create another the week after it.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 13, 2015, 06:56:29 pm
Being a leader of a group like MGI would be a great honour, I don't know how could anyone leave or delete it, that never could get into my mind.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Devin on December 13, 2015, 06:58:08 pm
I had thought my answer to your pm was clear enough, I guess not.

Even if you run it, there won't be all sorts of items just handed to the group.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: AK47 on December 13, 2015, 06:59:54 pm
Man don't let him lead it, it will just die within a few days like every other group he has opened the last month..
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Manoni on December 13, 2015, 07:04:11 pm
Just no. If MGI leadership has to be given to someone then it must be someone that was already in the group, before Frank decided to step down. You can't just come and say "ok, give it."
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: jovanca on December 13, 2015, 07:16:53 pm
Being a leader of a group like MGI would be a great honour, I don't know how could anyone leave or delete it, that never could get into my mind.

I don't know how could someone open 3 groups in 3 weeks and then expect to be set as leadership of another group and also be given official status. If you were good at leading, those groups would've got somewhere but they didn't. You claim sapd cadet rank has too many restrictions, as if it was too hard to handle it. Do you think leading group such as MGI is easy? Nah. As a cadet you are responsible for your own behavior, but as leader of a group you are responsible for the behavior and actions of all the members under you.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Mikal on December 13, 2015, 07:20:46 pm
From my point of view, I don't even know how MGI was given any special rights or anything in the first place, I never saw it doing anything over the years, there were so many other more deserving military groups in that time that were active, did create alot of roleplay and did also work with law enforcement and they never got anything, in that time MGI just existed, doing nothing... Though bare in mind I wasn't around for a whole year so I might have missed something. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 13, 2015, 07:51:41 pm
I don't know when I have said that I want to run MGI with OFFICIAL status or script support. I would like that but I prefer unofficial so I can show people how I would run the MGI.

If I ever become leader of MGI, I would take that duty very seriously and give the max I can to be professional and respectfull.

You don't fully know me, you don't know how I would act if I was in a leading position of a group like MGI.

Plus, I believe Argonath has to have a millitary group, and it needs to has loyal and brave soldiers.

I would NEVER abandon or delete the MGI. Instead, I would try and try until it has reached success.

Also, do not think I am unexperienced. I have been in tons of government groups, I know it. But, not only here, but in other RP servers, which were more strict about RP then here in Argonath. I have been a Cadet, but I have been also a mature and serious freecop in the past. I was also in ADF, which was A millitary organization. So I wouldn't say that I have no experience in millitaries. Also to mention, I was also a soldier of Armed Forces, and a Police Officer, and A FBI Agent in other servers.

I have experience in RP, Law Enforcement Duties, Millitary Experience, I am mature and serious when I am leading a serious group like MGI.

And about that about me creating a group every week. I know what I am doing, but, I would like for Teddy to give me a chance to see that I would NEVER abandon,delete or give up on MGI. I would infact, try to make MGI the most best and most professional group in Argonath.

Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Devin on December 13, 2015, 07:53:00 pm
Two comments removed; those who posted them should know why. In case you do not however, stop being cunts or forum access can be revoked.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Mikal on December 13, 2015, 07:54:23 pm
I don't know when I have said that I want to run MGI with OFFICIAL status or script support. I would like that but I prefer unofficial so I can show people how I would run the MGI.
Then what is the actual point in taking it over? Might aswell continue with what you've already created. :uhm:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 13, 2015, 07:58:21 pm
Then what is the actual point in taking it over? Might aswell continue with what you've already created. :uhm:

Its sad seeing a group like MGI die in this way, their leaders not caring about it, and other stuff... It's just hard to see that, and I wan't to make MGI alive again.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Dean. on December 13, 2015, 07:58:53 pm
Just build your own organisation, with your own name, structure, policy, make it work. Don't use someone else's success as a basis. If you were really as much a leader as you claim to be you'd realize that.

Be creative, make something that inspires people, be original.

Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Mikal on December 13, 2015, 08:00:33 pm
Its sad seeing a group like MGI die in this way, their leaders not caring about it, and other stuff... It's just hard to see that, and I wan't to make MGI alive again.
Why is it sad? MGI is just a name, just like all the other groups which have been and gone, and I don't think MGI was ever 'alive' anyway.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: jovanca on December 13, 2015, 08:00:44 pm
You keep saying you know what you're doing, yet your actions prove contrary. If you were such an experienced roleplayer, name of the group you run would not present a problem to you, but an opportunity to make something fresh and new. All i've seen you do on cop duty is either being afk, or constantly try to bait GSF into commiting crimes and disrupting every kind of roleplay GSF has started while you're online (if not afk). Also, when you say you have experience in millitary groups on other servers, you are not reffering to paruni, are you?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 13, 2015, 08:01:45 pm
The real reason why I closed groups is because, too much negativity and critics, that made me realize that it is pointless.

After the 2 groups closed down and after the ammount of negativity and critics, I started to lose motivation for groups that I, myself created.

Yet, I would not lose motivation in MGI, I don't know how, but, I just wouldn't, even if there were 1000 haters, I just wouldn't.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Manoni on December 13, 2015, 08:02:55 pm
Its sad seeing a group like MGI die in this way, their leaders not caring about it, and other stuff... It's just hard to see that, and I wan't to make MGI alive again.

Nope, you just want the name because it's known. Make your own group and prove you are the leader that you are claiming to be.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 13, 2015, 08:04:00 pm
You keep saying you know what you're doing, yet your actions prove contrary. If you were such an experienced roleplayer, name of the group you run would not present a problem to you, but an opportunity to make something fresh and new. All i've seen you do on cop duty is either being afk, or constantly try to bait GSF into commiting crimes and disrupting every kind of roleplay GSF has started while you're online (if not afk). Also, when you say you have experience in millitary groups on other servers, you are not reffering to paruni, are you?

Not paruni.

Well, I meant freecop in early 2015, and 2014 and 2013. Yes, maybe I am a more childish and stupid freecop, but now I am realizing my mistakes and I am taking the job more seriously.

I admit that baiting, I am sorry, but, now I realize it, and whenvever I go on cop duty, I am gonna be VERY careful on how I do things.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 13, 2015, 08:06:43 pm
It's just.

Why is there SO MUCH critics and negativity towards the groups I create.

In MF I got some 3-4 members quickly, and I am getting alot more people to be interested. But just, soo much negativity,critics.

Its like, the community hates me. I don't know, I just don't know why won't people just try to be positive and support me, if that happened, I would have never closed any groups.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Manoni on December 13, 2015, 08:08:01 pm
In MF I got some 3-4 members quickly, and I am getting alot more people to be interested. But just, soo much negativity,critics.

Good start, stick to that group then. No need for you to be jumping from one group to another, it's unprofessional.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Dean. on December 13, 2015, 08:10:26 pm
The real reason why I closed groups is because, too much negativity and critics, that made me realize that it is pointless.
This is exactly the thing that makes you a bad leader. You let other people talk you down. You wouldn't last a day in society as someone with responsibilities.


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After the 2 groups closed down and after the ammount of negativity and critics, I started to lose motivation for groups that I, myself created.
Because everything you do makes it look like all you want is to be in charge of people. You're not someone people want to follow, you don't inspire anyone. You just create a topic and expect people to just come joining in.

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Yet, I would not lose motivation in MGI, I don't know how, but, I just wouldn't, even if there were 1000 haters, I just wouldn't.
This confirms everyone's concern regarding your ability to continue with this group as a leader. There's no substructure for what you claim, no one's going to fall for it.



- Create your own group from scratch, prove yourself to be an interesting person to work with, inspire others to join you and your cause, and you'll end up being more successful than MGI ever was. (no pun intended, Frank)

- Or, join already existing groups (SAPD/FBI/SWAT/CIA/etc) and work your way up.


Don't try to be someone you're not (yet). People here don't dislike you as a person, they are annoyed by the way you do things.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 13, 2015, 08:10:44 pm
Why my group, when there is a chance that I could maybe lead a ex-successful millitary group, that its leader gave permission for me to lead it.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Mikal on December 13, 2015, 08:12:19 pm
The real reason why I closed groups is because, too much negativity and critics, that made me realize that it is pointless.
Right because your prison group got so much negativity... If I remember correctly many people were saying it was a good idea and that they would like to see more prison RP, with a few also suggesting things for you to do to improve it, but you ditched that regardless.

Yet, I would not lose motivation in MGI, I don't know how, but, I just wouldn't, even if there were 1000 haters, I just wouldn't.
Why? The name makes a big difference to you?

It's just.

Why is there SO MUCH critics and negativity towards the groups I create.

In MF I got some 3-4 members quickly, and I am getting alot more people to be interested. But just, soo much negativity,critics.

Its like, the community hates me. I don't know, I just don't know why won't people just try to be positive and support me, if that happened, I would have never closed any groups.
If 'MF' has had alot of interest why are you trying to ditch it for MGI?

The only 'negativity' that has been towards you has been related to the way you keep opening and closing groups, the community doesn't hate you, it's just that you need to fix what you're doing, you seem to be chasing power too much and you do honestly look power hungry to me, as someones already said, don't expect everything to drop into your lap, getting 'special things' takes time and effort.

Why my group, when there is a chance that I could maybe lead a ex-successful millitary group, that its leader gave permission for me to lead it.
Why does it matter if it's "ex-successful" - Just saying this makes you look even more incapable creating/running something that CAN be successful.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Arslan on December 13, 2015, 08:13:10 pm
I say go back to DoC, that was actually a gap in argonath which you filled but you closed it. Just because you make a group don't expect that type of roleplay 24/7 like you were saying to everyone bring people to mordor. You should be patient and actually create organised roleplay which can be done by contacting marcel or criminal court judge. Not just that, if ever there is a crime which warrants a jailing in mordor you can ask the officer and the person in custody if they are up for it and also do a prison RP.

And when there is no DoC RP just continue police rp as normal.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: MrTony on December 13, 2015, 08:15:53 pm
Just let him lead it with unofficial status and no script support as Devin said. Let him take over the name and see if he can keep his word of sticking to it.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Salmonella on December 13, 2015, 08:16:15 pm
Luis, like I told you ingame, you should probably stick to your own thing. MGI has a history and there's a big reputation to uphold. Not just anyone should use the name MGI imo

As for why ''the community hates you'', that's something you should figure out yourself. My advice is to keep your communication on mainchat to a minimum because a lot of people seem to get really annoyed by what you say.

Respect is earned, not given.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: .Matthew. on December 13, 2015, 08:23:24 pm
Last thing Argonath needs is 10 groups with same objectives to overwrite eachother and step on eachother's tasks.
If you'd like to do undercover work and investigations - FBI and CIA.
If you'd like to be a traffic officer, a general police officer or anything of that kind - SAPD.
If you'd like to do tactical assaults and breaches - SWAT.

There's much more to the tasks of the above, what I've written is only a brief description.
So instead of seeking for leadership, join one of the existing groups and settle up.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Spike. on December 13, 2015, 08:27:24 pm
I believe we should all go back to the topic.

On a side note @Ivan_Dzeba

As people said above try to settle on an existing group or go back to DoC because, that was seriously the only group that I see a future in, not even MGI.
Seriously look at it, it had an official status and script support and it didn't even last for 3 months; if you want my advice go back to the DoC.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Drix on December 13, 2015, 08:27:48 pm
Last thing Argonath needs is 10 groups with same objectives to overwrite eachother and step on eachother's tasks.
If you'd like to do undercover work and investigations - FBI and CIA.
If you'd like to be a traffic officer, a general police officer or anything of that kind - SAPD.
If you'd like to do tactical assaults and breaches - SWAT.

There's much more to the tasks of the above, what I've written is only a brief description.
So instead of seeking for leadership, join one of the existing groups and settle up.

Correct, and SAPD always welcomes people who have the motive in learning and growing by our side!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on December 13, 2015, 08:31:14 pm
I say go back to DoC, that was actually a gap in argonath which you filled but you closed it. Just because you make a group don't expect that type of roleplay 24/7 like you were saying to everyone bring people to mordor. You should be patient and actually create organised roleplay which can be done by contacting marcel or criminal court judge. Not just that, if ever there is a crime which warrants a jailing in mordor you can ask the officer and the person in custody if they are up for it and also do a prison RP.

And when there is no DoC RP just continue police rp as normal.


To anyone that wants to create DoC, just ask me. I am sticking to the millitary.

I loved being a soldier, but then ADF closed down and all of my dreams went down the drain. But now, I created the Millitary Force of Argonath, and maybe there will be success.
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