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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Teddy on August 24, 2015, 08:42:23 pm

Title: Some Changes
Post by: Teddy on August 24, 2015, 08:42:23 pm
1. Business entry fees will be added temporarily in order to compensate for the lack of business stock and profit.

2. We will be removing the trucking cargo taxes in order to keep pricing competitive.

3. We will be optimizing taxation on PNS, slightly increasing profitability.

4. We will be considering alternatives to the police system as it is evident this current structure is not working.

This will be done within the next update cycle (within 2 weeks)
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: beLTa on August 24, 2015, 08:45:04 pm
1. Business entry fees will be added temporarily in order to compensate for the lack of business stock and profit.

Great! Thanks for bringing it back.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: danipoz on August 24, 2015, 08:46:09 pm
2. We will be removing the trucking cargo taxes in order to keep pricing competitive.

It shouldn't be removed. If theres no taxes truckers can earn money easy and fast.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Axison on August 24, 2015, 08:54:41 pm
Nice!
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: .Matthew. on August 24, 2015, 08:58:27 pm
Amazing  :app:
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: AK47 on August 24, 2015, 08:59:47 pm
1. Business entry fees will be added temporarily in order to compensate for the lack of business stock and profit.

2. We will be removing the trucking cargo taxes in order to keep pricing competitive.

YES
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Kenji on August 24, 2015, 09:00:25 pm
Thats what im talking about  :gand:
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Traser on August 24, 2015, 09:00:29 pm
Good work @Teddy ! Don't forget telegram :D
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Whiteman on August 24, 2015, 09:01:40 pm
Perfection.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: eymas on August 24, 2015, 09:01:59 pm
Looking forward to a bright future :)
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Salmonella on August 24, 2015, 09:02:41 pm
HORRIDO for business fee!
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Satoshi on August 24, 2015, 09:04:19 pm
4. We will be considering alternatives to the police system as it is evident this current structure is not working.

Can you expand this a little bit? What kind of changes will be done?
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Stivi on August 24, 2015, 09:06:41 pm
So the actual bizz script is going to take a while?

Looking forward to these changes!
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Nathan on August 24, 2015, 09:08:28 pm
So the actual bizz script is going to take a while?

Yes. But the important thing is that it's in the works. It wasn't forgotten about nor did it fall through the cracks.



Excited about these changes!
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Bruce. on August 24, 2015, 09:09:46 pm
4. We will be considering alternatives to the police system as it is evident this current structure is not working.
Ofc it was not going to work.... #Freecops
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Aiden. on August 24, 2015, 09:15:50 pm
Perfect  :app:
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Ivan_MC on August 24, 2015, 09:32:50 pm
Perfect  :app:
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Mr. Goobii on August 24, 2015, 10:43:51 pm
Finally something that will encourage businesses! Love you developers!
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Yasko on August 25, 2015, 02:49:07 am
Nice work scripters! :app:
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Antonello on August 25, 2015, 03:15:39 am
Perfect  :app:
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: psyron on August 25, 2015, 10:08:06 am
4. We will be considering alternatives to the police system as it is evident this current structure is not working.

i have a bad feeling about this....
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: .Matthew. on August 25, 2015, 10:11:07 am
i have a bad feeling about this....
Because there will be babysitters throughout the day now so you can't do whatever you want?  ;)
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: psyron on August 25, 2015, 10:22:41 am
Because there will be babysitters throughout the day now so you can't do whatever you want?  ;)

babysitters with guns... definitely not a good combination  :lol:
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: .Matthew. on August 25, 2015, 10:48:15 am
Nah, there should be some minor adjustments:

- Required passport and license to go on duty (filters out new players with no knowledge about server)
- On-duty volunteers must follow all of the SAPD regulations
- Failure to follow regulations and obvious misuse should result in a long long (if not permanent) copban.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Bruce. on August 25, 2015, 10:53:46 am
- Required passport and license to go on duty (filters out new players with no knowledge about server)
And within 7 days you expect new players to know how to be cops.... that's not really that good idea....
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Stivi on August 25, 2015, 10:55:59 am
And within 7 days you expect new players to know how to be cops.... that's not really that good idea....
better than 13 minutes.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Satoshi on August 25, 2015, 11:08:29 am
Freecops?! Oh god, no.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Alexander_Rijav on August 25, 2015, 11:10:06 am
Freecops?! Oh god, no.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Celso on August 25, 2015, 11:16:56 am
Nah, there should be some minor adjustments:

- Required passport and license to go on duty (filters out new players with no knowledge about server)
- On-duty volunteers must follow all of the SAPD regulations
- Failure to follow regulations and obvious misuse should result in a long long (if not permanent) copban.
If people go through an extensive 1on1 academy still get disorientated in some situation, you think a new officer is going to make the right decision? The reason why there are little to no officers online it's because they have nothing that motivates them, 500$ for arrest shouldn't even be there..

Well if the freecop system is indeed cooming back then here we go for one more round of people complaining about abuse! It as been so clean in the complaint boards i guess it was about time to see them used again!
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Jeremy. on August 25, 2015, 11:21:50 am
Freecops?! Oh god, no.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: .Matthew. on August 25, 2015, 11:22:13 am
And within 7 days you expect new players to know how to be cops.... that's not really that good idea....
See, if driving schools and CMB were more serious and actually taught something then they would get to know basics.
But since you just enter a car, drive a circle and get a license, of course it has no effect.

That's why there should be no SFDS LSDS LVDS and other randoms, only one "government" owned driving school with proper teachers that will dedicate in properly teaching the traffic laws.
And for passport, they shouldn't get asked whose the president or stuff, they should be asked some basic laws (constitution).
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Celso on August 25, 2015, 11:41:32 am
See, if driving schools and CMB were more serious and actually taught something then they would get to know basics.
But since you just enter a car, drive a circle and get a license, of course it has no effect.

That's why there should be no SFDS LSDS LVDS and other randoms, only one "government" owned driving school with proper teachers that will dedicate in properly teaching the traffic laws.
And for passport, they shouldn't get asked whose the president or stuff, they should be asked some basic laws (constitution).
Then again who's going to do it, main people who this kind of things are not even trained to do so.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Khm on August 25, 2015, 11:49:47 am
iDrive actually teaches a lot not just speed limits and driving around..
There were people like this before in ACA ARES but our kind veterans said they only do that to be admins in result of that they stopped as they don't care anymore.. :/
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Marcel on August 25, 2015, 12:04:05 pm
Lead by example! Existing law enforcement officers should teach freecops instead of imposing restrictions upon them. The trolls that only disrupt the server can either be dealt with via copbans or administrative actions.

Take them along during patrols, organise training exercises, teach them how it's done.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Stof. on August 25, 2015, 12:25:01 pm
Lead by example! Existing law enforcement officers should teach freecops instead of imposing restrictions upon them. The trolls that only disrupt the server can either be dealt with via copbans or administrative actions.

Take them along during patrols, organise training exercises, teach them how it's done.

Exactly! How did we all start? We went along with experienced people and watched. I'm looking forward to a possible return of Freecops. I remember in RS4 how abusive they got and all, though I do remember the admin team getting almost completely on top of the abuse. I was never really bothered by freecops, yeah they were money hungry but you could use that to your advantage in the RP scenario and still, it was RP. No doubt there has been a significant drop in the amount of random Roleplay since the Police went anti-freecop. Still there needs to be strict enforcement, maybe with all the new stuff Argonath is getting implemented, there could be a script added so that wannabe cadets can actually sit an interactive exam about ARPD after reading through some rules and regulations and general info. Just a thought. Glad to see some changes being made, thanks :app:
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Pedro. on August 25, 2015, 01:19:54 pm
The way criminal organisations recruit new players also works for the police DP...
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on August 25, 2015, 01:26:22 pm
I am so happy, these changes are the best thing that is happening to me. :) . Developers, keep up the good work and continue working on RS5 for it to be awesome so that everyone will like it.

Btw, if freecops are returning, finally, we don't need to be scared from robberies and kiddnapps and murders, now there are SAPD and freecops, yay, finally.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: AK47 on August 25, 2015, 01:32:47 pm
Freecops?! Oh god, no.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Bruce. on August 25, 2015, 01:43:21 pm
Let's hope they won't get free weapons...
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Salmonella on August 25, 2015, 02:04:19 pm
Let's hope they won't get free weapons...

Let's hope they get exactly that, just like it used to be.

Freecops weren't any more abusive than your regular criminal copbaiting and abusing /helpmeup or something. Rulebreaking happens and it's not the freecop system's fault. I don't know where you're pulling this crap from that freecops used to reek havoc back in RS4 or something. They didn't, only some of them did and they were dealt with accordingly by the administration. Look how many criminals are in the unban request section nowadays, guess we should completely ban criminal groups now!

Freecops were and are an integral part of Argonath, and I hope they'll return in the format they were there for basically 7 years.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Cofiliano on August 25, 2015, 03:20:24 pm
Freecops?! Oh god, no.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Cofiliano on August 25, 2015, 03:21:38 pm
Nah, there should be some minor adjustments:

- Required passport and license to go on duty (filters out new players with no knowledge about server)
- On-duty volunteers must follow all of the SAPD regulations
- Failure to follow regulations and obvious misuse should result in a long long (if not permanent) copban.
-Most of SAPD regulations should be moved back to server rules, like they used to be in 2008.
-Failure to follow rules and misuse /duty should result in a long term ban.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Salmonella on August 25, 2015, 03:24:36 pm
It's just a game dude come on lol

Instead of long term bans why not teach the guy?
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: CharlieKasper on August 25, 2015, 03:52:44 pm
On the bright side, I may be able to play as a free cop again!!

 :bananav: :bananav: :bananav: :bananav:
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Teddy on August 25, 2015, 05:27:44 pm
I have decided how to suit this new system, it will take a bit longer to adapt.

- In order to go on "freecop duty", you will need to have a passport and a driving test.
- "Freecops" will be limited to the security guard skin (and a female skin).
- They will be armed with different weapons than SAPD officers (to be determined)

Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Traser on August 25, 2015, 07:16:31 pm
I have decided how to suit this new system, it will take a bit longer to adapt.

- In order to go on "freecop duty", you will need to have a passport and a driving test.
- "Freecops" will be limited to the security guard skin (and a female skin).
- They will be armed with different weapons than SAPD officers (to be determined)



Good choice.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: kevinarens on August 26, 2015, 07:18:10 pm
I have decided how to suit this new system, it will take a bit longer to adapt.

- In order to go on "freecop duty", you will need to have a passport and a driving test.
- "Freecops" will be limited to the security guard skin (and a female skin).
- They will be armed with different weapons than SAPD officers (to be determined)
Can "freecops" buy weapons in ammu-nations?
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: beLTa on August 26, 2015, 08:32:20 pm
You took a nice decision, Teddy. I always loved to be a freecop and I can see, I'll have this chance another time in the upcoming future.

Although what about the colour? Light blue or dark? I suggest light blue as it clearly differentiate the difference between SAPD officers and Freecops.

All on othe side, I liked the back of it. Good job! Thank you.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Manoni on August 26, 2015, 09:08:21 pm
Can "freecops" buy weapons in ammu-nations?

They shouldn't or they should only be able to buy more ammo of their duty weapons.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Satoshi on August 26, 2015, 09:20:30 pm
You took a nice decision, Teddy. I always loved to be a freecop and I can see, I'll have this chance another time in the upcoming future.

Although what about the colour? Light blue or dark? I suggest light blue as it clearly differentiate the difference between SAPD officers and Freecops.

All on othe side, I liked the back of it. Good job! Thank you.

They said duty colors will be removed.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: beLTa on August 26, 2015, 09:24:23 pm
They said duty colors will be removed.

I do know the duty colors will be removed but since they are still in, I asked it.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Brian on August 26, 2015, 09:33:19 pm
They shouldn't or they should only be able to buy more ammo of their duty weapons.

In my opinion, as long as criminals can go in to the ammunation to buy weaponry, anyone should (they're spending their own money on it anyways).
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Miller786 on September 01, 2015, 11:32:57 pm
I have decided how to suit this new system, it will take a bit longer to adapt.

- In order to go on "freecop duty", you will need to have a passport and a driving test.
- "Freecops" will be limited to the security guard skin (and a female skin).
- They will be armed with different weapons than SAPD officers (to be determined)
b-b-but the security guard uniform is ugly as shit and it makes no sense seeing a bunch of people patrolling in pd cars with a security guard uniform, as for the weapons i think freecops should get the same stuff as before, it makes no sense giving them something different from a deagle, it is the ideal weapon, while sapd officers should be issued shotguns and smgs
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Bas on September 02, 2015, 12:28:20 am
I have decided how to suit this new system, it will take a bit longer to adapt.

- In order to go on "freecop duty", you will need to have a passport and a driving test.
- "Freecops" will be limited to the security guard skin (and a female skin).
- They will be armed with different weapons than SAPD officers (to be determined)
Will they fall under the arpd like in rs4 or will they become part of the sapd once again like in rs5?
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: .Matthew. on September 02, 2015, 07:23:39 am
Will they fall under the arpd like in rs4 or will they become part of the sapd once again like in rs5?
That never made sense to me.
SAPD = SA:MP
VCPD = VC:MP
LCPD = IV:MP

SAPD+VCPD+LCPD = ARPD

So why does a rank of voluntary officer or "freecop" belong to ARPD and not SAPD?
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Celso on September 02, 2015, 10:28:15 am
That never made sense to me.
SAPD = SA:MP
VCPD = VC:MP
LCPD = IV:MP

SAPD+VCPD+LCPD = ARPD

So why does a rank of voluntary officer or "freecop" belong to ARPD and not SAPD?
Makes perfect sense, SAPD = Trained Officers , ARPD = Untrained officers (In RS4) Many of the reasons SAPD at the start had almost no oñe joining was because there was no differentiation RS4 they recieved extra weapons and before in the academy even money for their work, RS5 wsa the same for everyone hence the lost of interest.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: Teddy on September 04, 2015, 04:33:47 am
Will they fall under the arpd like in rs4 or will they become part of the sapd once again like in rs5?

They are ARPD officers.
Title: Re: Some Changes
Post by: CharlieKasper on September 04, 2015, 08:16:50 am
Ah yuis freecops rise
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