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Title: Trucking job's return?
Post by: TiMoN on November 06, 2015, 09:51:48 am
Is there any ETA on this? The server is empty during the day and trucking job gives us something to do, are there any information whether it is being fixed or not?
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Devin on November 06, 2015, 10:29:49 am
It is not being fixed, the entire logic behind that script was flawed and was purely a money farming method.
Another more logical trucking script is being built but it won't be out for some time as it ties into the business update.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: MrTony on November 06, 2015, 10:47:03 am
Is there no chance of the trucking script being temporarily available until the business update is here?
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Devin on November 06, 2015, 12:35:02 pm
As it was removed due to an exploitable factor in the way it was designed; it won't be returning.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: MrTony on November 06, 2015, 12:50:57 pm
Understood.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Teddy on November 06, 2015, 03:47:30 pm
trucking job gives us something to do

Is this really where we are? It saddens me honestly.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Dizzy. on November 06, 2015, 04:00:19 pm
Is this really where we are? It saddens me honestly.
lol No, it's not because trucking give us something to do

that's obvious :

the entire logic behind that script was flawed and was purely a money farming method.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: MrTony on November 06, 2015, 04:02:48 pm
I'd personally love to see what the new trucking-business script has in store and also I've suggested that trains be used as part of the whole business-stock delivery script. Dunno what the scripters' take on that is tho.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Mikal on November 06, 2015, 04:22:47 pm
I've suggested that trains be used as part of the whole business-stock delivery script
That's a great idea!
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: TiMoN on November 06, 2015, 04:27:42 pm
Is this really where we are? It saddens me honestly.
I wish you had read the full sentence.
The server is empty during the day and trucking job gives us something to do
I can't imagine what you can do with 3-5 people, two of which are usually AFK and you can't find the others.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Sawyer on November 06, 2015, 04:31:29 pm
To be honest, I made a lot of money out of trucking, especially on midnights. I would not mind it being back, it'd be great actually in some way of making it available when server's low on players. Either way I'm fine with it though.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Luke on November 06, 2015, 04:40:12 pm
We are a roleplay server not euro truck simulator.

Case closed.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Axison on November 06, 2015, 04:42:03 pm
We are a roleplay server not euro truck simulator.

Case closed.
We are a roleplay server not a cops and robbers server.

If that's the case all we need is /me and we can roleplay anything we want.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: CharlieKasper on November 06, 2015, 08:12:46 pm
Honestly, I only wished it had been removed sooner. Glad they removed it.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: TiMoN on November 26, 2015, 03:16:04 pm
Is it possible to give the game breaking bug a quick fix and re-implement this until the new system comes up? Making money is impossible as highlighted here (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=114634.0) and trucker gave people the chance to make some actual cash.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Mikal on November 26, 2015, 03:39:49 pm
Can't even afford to fill my bike up, of course I might be able to from the weed I've sold, but a single death by cop takes all that money from me. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Devin on November 26, 2015, 03:41:26 pm
Is it possible to give the game breaking bug a quick fix and re-implement this until the new system comes up? Making money is impossible as highlighted here (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=114634.0) and trucker gave people the chance to make some actual cash.

There is no specific "Bug" in the trucking script that led to it being removed. The way it was designed is the cause for the problem. The only way to fix that would be to rewrite the script which is already being done with the new trucking system.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: TiMoN on November 26, 2015, 03:42:57 pm
There is no specific "Bug" in the trucking script that led to it being removed. The way it was designed is the cause for the problem. The only way to fix that would be to rewrite the script which is already being done with the new trucking system.
What about the bug that caused people to stack loads? Isn't it the one that got the job removed? When trucking was first added, Gimli was somehow able to fix that bug.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Mikro on November 26, 2015, 03:43:21 pm
No, we are not going to bring trucking back. Especially not the way it was with money spawning methods. Just accept making money is not easy. You will have to put some effort in it. A lot of players managed to make millions, stop pretending it is impossible.

For your information. Players active in the past 10 days and registered before this month, they own a total of:

Money: $14.211.072
Bank: $34.381.351
Properties: $116.282.725
Vehicles: $32.952.800
Drugs: 135.820 grams

Not included many other items, group money, group vehicles. I don't want to hear any more "it is impossible" bullshit. So go give constructive ideas like in that other topic and stop going around with useless claims.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: TiMoN on November 26, 2015, 03:46:46 pm
No, we are not going to bring trucking back. Especially not the way it was with money spawning methods. Just accept making money is not easy. You will have to put some effort in it. A lot of players managed to make millions, stop pretending it is impossible.

For your information. Players active in the past 10 days and registered before this month, they own a total of:

Money: $14.211.072
Bank: $34.381.351
Properties: $116.282.725
Vehicles: $32.952.800
Drugs: 135.820 grams

Not included many other items, group money, group vehicles. I don't want to hear any more "it is impossible" bullshit. So go give constructive ideas like in that other topic and stop going around with useless claims.
I would love to know how they earned their money, my bet is on working hard as trucker, not any other job.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Mikro on November 26, 2015, 03:53:17 pm
I would love to know how they earned their money, my bet is on working hard as trucker, not any other job.

Doesn't matter. We are not going to bring such a script back. Rather suggest constructive ideas like in the other topic instead of claiming all kinds off bullshit. Your general attitude here does not fit the one we expect from people who want to give input. You may find it harsh, but you better change or you might loose your privilege to post ideas.

The development team is done with all kinds of bullshit. As said in an other topic, we will start being very harsh.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Aiden. on November 26, 2015, 03:55:36 pm
No, we are not going to bring trucking back. Especially not the way it was with money spawning methods. Just accept making money is not easy. You will have to put some effort in it. A lot of players managed to make millions, stop pretending it is impossible.

For your information. Players active in the past 10 days and registered before this month, they own a total of:

Money: $14.211.072
Bank: $34.381.351
Properties: $116.282.725
Vehicles: $32.952.800
Drugs: 135.820 grams

Not included many other items, group money, group vehicles. I don't want to hear any more "it is impossible" bullshit. So go give constructive ideas like in that other topic and stop going around with useless claims.

Miss-using of trucking script, As we all know there were a bug in this trucking script or they seriously worked hard and made these millions?
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Devin on November 26, 2015, 03:58:48 pm
Miss-using of trucking script, As we all know there were a bug in this trucking script or they seriously worked hard and made these millions?

It makes no difference; the script is still never returning.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Mikal on November 26, 2015, 04:02:58 pm
It makes no difference; the script is still never returning.
Then we need an quick alternative, because the economy really is terrible. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Adam on November 26, 2015, 04:04:54 pm
Miss-using of trucking script, As we all know there were a bug in this trucking script or they seriously worked hard and made these millions?
The trucking script was disabled about 50 days ago, and these stats are for the last month. so.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Pedro. on November 26, 2015, 04:08:40 pm
I earn money from entry fees and PnS
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: TiMoN on November 26, 2015, 04:10:18 pm
so.
They're showing the stats of everyone who logged in the past month, not how much they earned/spent.
I earn money from entry fees and PnS
And you earned the money for PnS from?
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Devin on November 26, 2015, 04:15:52 pm
As said numerous times but people fail to listen; the new business script which will provide ways to earn money is still being worked on.
Until then is it too much to ask for people to spend time roleplaying instead of only focusing on money on a game?
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Camels100s on November 26, 2015, 04:18:18 pm
Maybe by getting a sort of paycheck like a full RP server can be a solution, for Pure State jobs as Police,EMS and FD, i can't even think anything about scripting it, but with the correct script people can be rewared for doing his Job, We can't always say "We can't add it, people will abuse it" Thinking that will only leads to deleting everything. I think that a sort of 'Bonus' 'Payday' call it as you want, can stimulate the economy, but of course, it's all up to you guys! You posted here Money of all players about 1 month ago, but mind that a small percent of players has bought houses with a value of 2 Milions, plus Businesses etc... so when you read Money : 14 Milions, don't think that 100 players own them but think that only 3 or 4 players have about 3 or 4 milions, obviusly earnt by money farming with Trucking. I know a player that own an house with a 2 Milions dollars house, plus a bizz that can value up to 20 milions.. I Can't explain it well, but i'm sure you understand what i'm saying.

EDIT : I don't need money, i'm here only to roleplaying, just mind that yesterday i BOUGHT along with Favattinho with MY money a Securicar for SAFD, i just desire to get paid enough for my duties cause i invest my money to my job, me along with all Officers and Medics.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Sandi on November 26, 2015, 04:26:14 pm
In my whole RS5 earnings, I've managed to earn myself around $5.000.000..

Only 100k was made by trucking.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Ivan_MC on November 26, 2015, 04:27:15 pm
For your information. Players active in the past 10 days and registered before this month, they own a total of:

Money: $14.211.072
Bank: $34.381.351
Properties: $116.282.725
Vehicles: $32.952.800
Drugs: 135.820 grams

You got luck that I got unbanned just in time for you to check this on active players, if i were still not around this stats would have had an huge drop, if you know what I mean ;) .

And you earned the money for PnS from?
Hard work.

I earn money from entry fees and PnS
Especially from the PnS ;)
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Mikal on November 26, 2015, 04:29:20 pm
So currently the only way to earn enough money to do anything right now = Own a PnS or very popular business, which you can't do unless you got minted from trucking. :lol:
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Vincent_D on November 26, 2015, 04:31:48 pm
As said numerous times but people fail to listen; the new business script which will provide ways to earn money is still being worked on.
Until then is it too much to ask for people to spend time roleplaying instead of only focusing on money on a game?

With all do respect Devin,if I could buy myself a nice house a good car and armor/health/fuel with RP believe me i would.
Im not saying to bring back an old script that caused problems on the actual server or w.e
Why isnt there a new script about cop/medic/driver paychecks?
It would bring a more realistic experience in the game,and would better the economy

And for those who want to get a hourly or weekly paycheck,they can apply on forum for a job,as it is in real life.
Those who dont apply dont get the perks of a paycheck,they will continue being on duty as it is now.

All im saying that we are not money hungry or moneybeging, but we still need money for a decent life on the server.

So please dont take this as a "i know it all,you should listen to me",but im just saying,the economy needs a little blossom.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Devin on November 26, 2015, 05:04:39 pm
Why isnt there a new script about cop/medic/driver paychecks?
It would bring a more realistic experience in the game,and would better the economy

And for those who want to get a hourly or weekly paycheck,they can apply on forum for a job,as it is in real life.
Those who dont apply dont get the perks of a paycheck,they will continue being on duty as it is now.

We would be all in for a system to provide payments if it would result in people actually doing work on those jobs; sadly the majority of players would see it as a cash farming method where they can go on duty; put in little to no effort and be paid for it.

A sort of system like this is in planning for SAPD right now however if it does not produce the results we are hoping to see it may be reverted.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Mikal on November 26, 2015, 05:09:53 pm
I think a simple and attractive way to bring some money into the game would be official events, like the ones we had in RS4, Destruction Derby's and such attracted alot of players.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Aiden. on November 26, 2015, 05:10:42 pm
In my whole RS5 earnings, I've managed to earn myself around $5.000.000..

Only 100k was made by trucking.

And how is this possible?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Dennis. on November 26, 2015, 05:12:09 pm
And how is this possible?  :rolleyes:
Wizards everywhere!!!
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Vincent_D on November 26, 2015, 05:37:16 pm
We would be all in for a system to provide payments if it would result in people actually doing work on those jobs; sadly the majority of players would see it as a cash farming method where they can go on duty; put in little to no effort and be paid for it.

A sort of system like this is in planning for SAPD right now however if it does not produce the results we are hoping to see it may be reverted.

Is there a topic on that SAPD work/payment system out here somewhere that I could check out?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Camels100s on November 26, 2015, 06:02:07 pm
We would be all in for a system to provide payments if it would result in people actually doing work on those jobs; sadly the majority of players would see it as a cash farming method where they can go on duty; put in little to no effort and be paid for it.

A sort of system like this is in planning for SAPD right now however if it does not produce the results we are hoping to see it may be reverted.

Why only for SAPD... my god, always the same story. By the way i hope it will be implemented soon for other agencies too.
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: AK47 on November 26, 2015, 06:04:58 pm
Why only for SAPD... my god, always the same story. By the way i hope it will be implemented soon for other agencies too.

It's SAPD-roleplay server. :)
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Stivi on November 26, 2015, 06:46:03 pm
You really want to know how to make money TiMoN? Gambling. In early RS5 gambling was the shit, back when BJ script got released. And we had no trucking script, but people made money by spamming fireman duty and then lost them in BJ to those who made money by abusing the property system ( some got banned, some still own most valuable ones ).
Title: Re: Trucking job's return?
Post by: Devin on November 26, 2015, 08:49:43 pm
Is there a topic on that SAPD work/payment system out here somewhere that I could check out?
Thanks.

At this point, no as it is not posted anywhere public as things are still under discussion and planning.

Why only for SAPD... my god, always the same story. By the way i hope it will be implemented soon for other agencies too.

Because you take one step at a time and test things before going further, bear that in mind.
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