Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Hardware/Software support => Resolved issues => Topic started by: Alsatian on November 25, 2015, 08:58:32 pm
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My current setup was put together about 4/5 years ago now. It still runs absolutely fine to this day - I'm getting a relatively stable 30 FPS on medium settings whilst playing Fallout 4. However, I feel now is the time to upgrade as I have the funds to buy the parts I need in bulk.
Current setup:
MOBO: ASUS P8Z68-V LX
CPU: Intel i5-2500k @ 3.3 GHz (not overclocked)
GPU: GTX 560 ti - 1GB
Storage: Crucial 250 GB SSD / Western Digital 1 TB HDD
RAM: 8GB
PSU: Corsair TX650
Now, I want to have a system that will handle games at 60+ FPS on ultra settings for around 2-3 years.
Upgrades:
CPU: Intel i7 4970k @ 4 GHz
GPU: MSI GTX 970 Twin Frozr 5 - 4GB / Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming - 4GB
RAM: 16GB (most likely HyperX series)
Opinions? Altogether these parts will probably set me back around the £600 mark (not taking into account any Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals) which is roughly about how much I'd like to spend.
My PSU should be fine, but what about my motherboard? I've looked online and it seems it will be compatible, but I've had one guy recommend that I definitely upgrade.
I'll also be buying a new case fan and CPU heatsink. I'm currently using the stock ones that came with my PC all those years ago, and although they've served me well (65 degrees max whilst an hour into F4) I'd like to spend that bit extra for precautionary measures.
Thank you in advance for any opinions or suggestions.
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I'm pretty sure your Motherboard can't hack that CPU.
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Taking a second look, it seems you're right. My current MOBO will only support some early edition i7 processors.
Seems a new MOBO is on the list too. :rage:
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Feel free to post your parts when you upgrade, I'm in London anyway :lol:
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The parts you chose are alright. The thing is, do you even plan on overclocking that 4790k? It seems to be a waste of money if you aren't, money that could have went into the GPU.
If you plan on upgrading your motherboard, go with a Z97 board. Now as for a CPU replacement, I think an I5-4690 would be more suitable if you don't plan on overclocking. It works fine for gaming and using an I7 doesn't really improve gaming that much.
The extra money can be put into a GTX980 which gives a much better chance to play on a constant FPS of ~80 (depending on the game) on the highest settings.
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Honestly you probably will have more FPS in games by keeping your current mobo and cpu and buying a GTX980 and doubling your RAM.
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Honestly you probably will have more FPS in games by keeping your current mobo and cpu and buying a GTX980 and doubling your RAM.
That. And might even try overclocking that CPU if you got a better cooler than the stock one (Hyper 212 Evo for example).
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I was back and forth with the idea of keeping my current CPU. Seeing as I haven't OCd this yet I may as well test out the performance boost by clocking it to about 3.7-4.0 GHz. This, combined with a new cooler, should do me just fine. The main reason I wanted to upgrade to an i7 anyway (aside from the obvious performance improvement) was for future proofing.
If all else fails I can always upgrade my CPU later in the year.
Currently looking at the MSI 980 4GB. Looks a beast of a card. :D
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Currently looking at the MSI 980 4GB. Looks a beast of a card. :D
Ain't a bad one indeed, take a look on Gigabyte's G1 Gaming version as well, I think you will like it even more.
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I see no reason for you to upgrade Motherboard + CPU. You will win 5-10% percent? So what? Just double your RAM and spend on a good GPU.
I'd upgrade to Skylake in 1-2 years when prices will be better as there will be more models released.
As for RAM, I'd suggest any of Savage, Beast or Fury (any 2133 or 2400 version). I personally use 1x8GB Kingston HyperX Fury White 1866 @ 2133, satisfied a lot.
Though if I recall right, a neighbor had trouble fitting beast under CM 212 Evo..
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If you are going to overclock go for Savage, best performace
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£600 To get a few more fps in video games ? Do you know how many poor families can you feed with that ?
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£600 To get a few more fps in video games ? Do you know how many poor families can you feed with that ?
It's his money, if I worked hard for these 600 I have every right to throw them in the street if I wish to.
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£600 To get a few more fps in video games ? Do you know how many poor families can you feed with that ?
Nobody gives a flying fuck.
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Thanks for all your help/opinions so far.
I do have another question though. I know that for Christmas someone will be getting me a new 1080p 60 Hz monitor. A 120 Hz monitor would of been ideal for the GTX 980 but it's unfortunately out of the price range... which leads me onto my question:
Do you think, considering the monitor, that the 980 might be a touch overkill? I'm sure a 970 or even 960 would be able to get 60 FPS on most, if not all, AAA titles out at the moment at 1080p. I'm perfectly fine with the slight imperfections/tearing if I was running a game at 80 FPS, for example, but I just wanted to get your opinions.
Future-proof it and get the extra performance from the 980, or save some money and go for a lower 900 series card?
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1080P 60hz? 980 is a huge overkill. A 960 will even do.
Did you consider an AMD R9 290X (Sapphire, not the reference model)? They're probably the best bang for the buck atm
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Keep the 980, it ain't overkill. The benefit that you have now is that you can crank up the AA settings to get crisp clear quality.
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A good midway for that would be the 970. 980 is definitely overkill for 60 herz 1080p dude
I mean if you want to spend shekels, sure, but...
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Keep the 980, it ain't overkill. The benefit that you have now is that you can crank up the AA settings to get crisp clear quality.
Most of the benchmarks for the games I want to play (Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Shadow of Mordor) are getting FPS rates of between 50-60 on maximum settings. Once I've OCd both my CPU and GPU, it should be more than enough... wouldn't you agree?
If I was getting a 120 Hz monitor then I definitely would go for the 980. But I think it would be a better decision at this point to save the extra ~£100 and go for the 970. After all, I'll still be getting a kick ass gaming experience.
1080P 60hz? 980 is a huge overkill. A 960 will even do.
Did you consider an AMD R9 290X (Sapphire, not the reference model)? They're probably the best bang for the buck atm
I have considered a few AMD cards, but have decided to stick with Nvidia this time. I know the latter's cards are a bit more expensive, but a few areas such as noise level, power consumption and driver issues have swayed me.
My only reservation with the 970 is the 3.5 GB vRAM cock-up. Shouldn't be too big a deal though, if even noticeable.
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Most of the benchmarks for the games I want to play (Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Shadow of Mordor) are getting FPS rates of between 50-60 on maximum settings. Once I've OCd both my CPU and GPU, it should be more than enough... wouldn't you agree?
Partly, the thing is it can be noticed when frames start dipping below 60 FPS and it's pretty annoying. But then again I always play on 144 FPS so you might not even notice it. If I would go for 60 FPS gaming I would take a card that outputs a minimum of 60 FPS without dipping.
My only reservation with the 970 is the 3.5 GB vRAM cock-up. Shouldn't be too big a deal though, if even noticeable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPlCIUh_Tp0
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I have a 970 had it for pretty much a year now, and I must say it is a brilliant card, can play all top end titles at Ultra/High settings, Battlefield 4 at ultra gets me 100+fps, GTA V gets me around 90fps High with a few details touched, Hardline gets me over 100 also, SAMP with a high end ENB within crowded areas such as Pershing gets me 100+ also. Overall the card is good for current gaming with no issues from my side, The games currently on the market will run with good FPS topping over 60 easy on most, but if your like me and don't mind playing at 1920x1080 for the time being then its a good bargain, but if you are looking for 4k then id opt for the 980/980ti. Just don't go for AMD, AMD is shite. #SorryAMDLovers
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Remember that Fallout 4 is made by Bethesda so you can't expect it to run well at all times. Even my 980 can't maintain 60fps in Boston.
I got the 980 just in case Dell decides to release a 16:10 144hz or 1600p monitor, and to give me extra power for when shitty devs don't optimise games correctly.
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If I would go for 60 FPS gaming I would take a card that outputs a minimum of 60 FPS without dipping.
Which for 1080p the 970 should be perfect.
I have a 970 had it for pretty much a year now, and I must say it is a brilliant card, can play all top end titles at Ultra/High settings, Battlefield 4 at ultra gets me 100+fps, GTA V gets me around 90fps High with a few details touched, Hardline gets me over 100 also, SAMP with a high end ENB within crowded areas such as Pershing gets me 100+ also. Overall the card is good for current gaming with no issues from my side, The games currently on the market will run with good FPS topping over 60 easy on most, but if your like me and don't mind playing at 1920x1080 for the time being then its a good bargain, but if you are looking for 4k then id opt for the 980/980ti. Just don't go for AMD, AMD is shite. #SorryAMDLovers
There's no way I'm looking at a 4k setup anytime soon. For one I can't afford and secondly I'm simply not interested at this stage.
Seems like the 970 is serving you well. Have you played Witcher 3 or F4 by chance?
Remember that Fallout 4 is made by Bethesda so you can't expect it to run well at all times. Even my 980 can't maintain 60fps in Boston.
I got the 980 just in case Dell decides to release a 16:10 144hz or 1600p monitor, and to give me extra power for when shitty devs don't optimise games correctly.
Yeah, that's unfortunately true.
Still, as I said, the 970 should be fine for 1080p gaming for at least the next couple of years. But there's obviously no guarantee.
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There's no way I'm looking at a 4k setup anytime soon. For one I can't afford and secondly I'm simply not interested at this stage.
Seems like the 970 is serving you well. Have you played Witcher 3 or F4 by chance?
Well then you haven't got an issue topping most of the games you would play, I believe you can play both of them on pretty much ultra with a little bit of tweaking at 60 fps easily.
The card is a good card its right in the sweet spot IMO, more then 2GB from the 960, and cheaper then the 980 but only a margin different. Good card, would recommend.
@MrTrane @Link9rly, both have this card was discussing how pretty superior it is to the likes of the R9 290/x.
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The reference version of the R9 290X is pretty bad because of fan noise and shit. The Sapphire versions are however nicely built cards with plenty of cooling.
The 970 is more power efficient and maintains slightly lower temperatures. Also, like I said before, AMD drivers and software are pretty shitty but if you just wanna play a game it won't bother you.
I got the 290x because of AMDs better multi-monitor support (at the time) and because it was really cheap. I only paid 200 euros for mine while the 970 was still at 400 or something. I didn't think lower temps and lower power consumption justified paying twice as much for a videocard. I feel like AMD has finally caught up with nVidia in terms of performance with the R9 290X. The 390X is however just a rebranded 290X worth avoiding.
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Thank you all for your help. For those interested, this is what I went for in the end:
MSI GTX 970
HyperX FURY 16GB
I also purchased a new case fan and CPU fan as I plan to overclock my CPU and GPU. As well as that, I received a new monitor, keyboard and mouse for Christmas. Really happy with how my setup is looking and running. :D
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Thank you all for your help. For those interested, this is what I went for in the end:
MSI GTX 970
HyperX FURY 16GB
I also purchased a new case fan and CPU fan as I plan to overclock my CPU and GPU. As well as that, I received a new monitor, keyboard and mouse for Christmas. Really happy with how my setup is looking and running. :D
Great choice, 980 is quite a useless card since 980Ti came out. Isn't really worth the price IMHO.
You say you bought a new CPU fan - which one and what cooler did you get?
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Great choice, 980 is quite a useless card since 980Ti came out. Isn't really worth the price IMHO.
You say you bought a new CPU fan - which one and what cooler did you get?
Thanks. The card is running absolutely perfectly so I'm more than happy. :D
For the case fan I went with a Corsair Air Series AF120-LED and for the CPU fan/heatsink I went with the Cooler Master RR-212E-16PK-R1 Hyper 212 Evo.
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Nice.
Guess this topic can go to the archive then. Have fun ;)