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Title: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Huntsman on November 29, 2015, 02:36:37 pm
Well,

All those Russians might have been right  :balance:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2811338/Oh-lovely-war-Remarkable-video-shows-ISIS-fighter-strolling-right-Turkish-border-checkpoint-relaxing-chat-guards.html
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: TiMoN on November 29, 2015, 02:37:08 pm
can we not do this again
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Huntsman on November 29, 2015, 02:43:35 pm
can we not do this again

Do what? You don't like it, you don't read it.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Kimya. on November 30, 2015, 02:21:53 pm
Sorry wrong account..My brother's account
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Huntsman on November 30, 2015, 02:57:43 pm
Sorry wrong account..My brother's account

Wha...
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Kostas on November 30, 2015, 03:44:56 pm
Well, I don't know what to say.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Cofiliano on November 30, 2015, 03:47:33 pm
Oh we are all shocked :lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Vincent_D on November 30, 2015, 04:09:30 pm
I really should start watching the news more often... All world problem news i hear them first from Argonath chat topics :neutral2:

Oh yeah and Putin is never wrong  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Mikal on November 30, 2015, 04:56:49 pm
Oh yeah and Putin is never wrong  :rolleyes:
Except for that time when he said it wasn't a Russian missile system that shot down that civilian airliner over Ukraine.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Salmonella on November 30, 2015, 06:13:21 pm
Non-Russian source so it must be fake.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: ahmedXD on November 30, 2015, 06:15:55 pm
Possibly fake, as @Mikal mentioned.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Hevar. on November 30, 2015, 06:41:04 pm
Pfff...this is not something new...Turkey is supporting ISIS and funding them a long time.

NATO must kick out Turkey out of NATO :/

Long live Putin and long live the kurds!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K00j21z2nY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db2FX_hLx9k
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Hevar. on November 30, 2015, 06:46:08 pm
V‪ladimir Zhirinovsky‬

Enable ''CC'' for english subtitle =)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zxDbTU9Mog

@Cofiliano
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Ivan_MC on November 30, 2015, 08:44:33 pm
Non-Russian source so it must be fake.
kek
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Hevar. on November 30, 2015, 11:52:06 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx_AQ-csJzU
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Emre on December 01, 2015, 11:05:08 pm
Pfff...this is not something new...Turkey is supporting ISIS and funding them a long time.

NATO must kick out Turkey out of NATO :/

Long live Putin and long live the kurds!
You're a fool. Let's not look at the current dispute between Erdogan and Putin (RUSSIA IS A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH CCCP CHEEKI BREEKI) but evaluate the Turks-Kurds issue. Personally, I do not give two shits about your ongoing demand, yeah, let's just call it a demand, for an independent Kurdistan. Go ahead, take your Diyarbakir, your Batman. Have the entire south-eastern region. Bear in mind though that the IS has taken over more than 60 percent of Syria. Instead of uniting your ethnic minority, you trigger more havoc. Think about it, is it really right to want that just now? Of course, the way things are handled by the government, it is possible that the IS can very well use Turkey as their gateway to Europe. The only reason IS forces can recover in certain areas is in order to fight similarly violent Kurdish troops. So that is nothing but a means to an end yet could also be considered a support of IS if you weigh how much Erdogan considers Kurds and IS as terrorists. Take away the fact that his leadership is highly questionable itself, you are just pissed because the PKK has been rated as a terrorist group by the NATO. You should be thankful that there is a treaty organisation such as the latter.
Then again, Russia can be put to an end much easier than by means of NATO. They can easily end up outnumbered, they're incredibly dependent on nations such as Turkey due to their Gas and ... what else can they even export? Filthy dashcam footage of chaotic driving in Downtown Moscow? Whenever they speak of sanctions, it's merely a bluff. On a long-term basis, Russia is not capable of anything, which doesn't exclude their power on a shorter term though...
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Sawyer on December 01, 2015, 11:10:05 pm
Pfff...this is not something new...Turkey is supporting ISIS and funding them a long time.
bullshit
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Salmonella on December 02, 2015, 12:02:04 am
You're a fool. Let's not look at the current dispute between Erdogan and Putin (RUSSIA IS A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH CCCP CHEEKI BREEKI) but evaluate the Turks-Kurds issue.

haha ok

Personally, I do not give two shits about your ongoing demand, yeah, let's just call it a demand, for an independent Kurdistan. Go ahead, take your Diyarbakir, your Batman. Have the entire south-eastern region. Bear in mind though that the IS has taken over more than 60 percent of Syria. Instead of uniting your ethnic minority, you trigger more havoc. Think about it, is it really right to want that just now?

I'm not sure where to cut your message up since it's incoherent but I guess this is your 'evaluation'. Basically you 'don't give a shit', okay.

Of course, the way things are handled by the government, it is possible that the IS can very well use Turkey as their gateway to Europe. The only reason IS forces can recover in certain areas is in order to fight similarly violent Kurdish troops. So that is nothing but a means to an end yet could also be considered a support of IS if you weigh how much Erdogan considers Kurds and IS as terrorists.

So, the reason IS forces can 'recover' in 'certain areas' is because then they can fight Kurdish troops, because of the government? I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The Turkish government -is- trying to help ISIS? Didn't you just say that was 'bullshit'?

Means to what end?

Take away the fact that his leadership is highly questionable itself, you are just pissed because the PKK has been rated as a terrorist group by the NATO. You should be thankful that there is a treaty organisation such as the latter.

So here you bash the Kurds who form pretty much the biggest opposition IS has right now on the ground. I'm starting to think you're supporting ISIS, but then again you just spoke of them as if they're not affiliated with Turkey, a sentiment I share, by the way.

Then again, Russia can be put to an end much easier than by means of NATO. They can easily end up outnumbered, they're incredibly dependent on nations such as Turkey due to their Gas and ... what else can they even export? Filthy dashcam footage of chaotic driving in Downtown Moscow? Whenever they speak of sanctions, it's merely a bluff. On a long-term basis, Russia is not capable of anything, which doesn't exclude their power on a shorter term though...

I mainly agree with this, but what do you mean by outnumbered? Pretty much everything Russia has is numbers. They don't have any good military equipment, they're untrained, they're poor and they really don't have anything to show for themselves except for numbers.

In conclusion, I'm not sure what your stance on this is apart from being indifferent to the Kurdish struggle and disliking Russia.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Hevar. on December 02, 2015, 12:12:37 am
You're a fool. Let's not look at the current dispute between Erdogan and Putin (RUSSIA IS A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH CCCP CHEEKI BREEKI) but evaluate the Turks-Kurds issue. Personally, I do not give two shits about your ongoing demand, yeah, let's just call it a demand, for an independent Kurdistan. Go ahead, take your Diyarbakir, your Batman. Have the entire south-eastern region. Bear in mind though that the IS has taken over more than 60 percent of Syria. Instead of uniting your ethnic minority, you trigger more havoc. Think about it, is it really right to want that just now? Of course, the way things are handled by the government, it is possible that the IS can very well use Turkey as their gateway to Europe. The only reason IS forces can recover in certain areas is in order to fight similarly violent Kurdish troops. So that is nothing but a means to an end yet could also be considered a support of IS if you weigh how much Erdogan considers Kurds and IS as terrorists. Take away the fact that his leadership is highly questionable itself, you are just pissed because the PKK has been rated as a terrorist group by the NATO. You should be thankful that there is a treaty organisation such as the latter.
Then again, Russia can be put to an end much easier than by means of NATO. They can easily end up outnumbered, they're incredibly dependent on nations such as Turkey due to their Gas and ... what else can they even export? Filthy dashcam footage of chaotic driving in Downtown Moscow? Whenever they speak of sanctions, it's merely a bluff. On a long-term basis, Russia is not capable of anything, which doesn't exclude their power on a shorter term though...

haha why so mad?

Your country is getting hated by so many people because your government is supporting ISIS, just check in first page at the video how turkish police shoutout like ISIS members with ''Allah akbar'' Please...get fact right and just agree that Turkey is supporting ISIS.

What have Turkey done during the fight against ISIS? NOTHING...The only force on ground against ISIS is Kurdish force Peshmerga..We have keept ISIS away from Kurdistand and still doing a international job with cleaning ISIS with support by Russia,USA, France (Air support)

Btw..what did Turkey do when Kobane was under attack? Nothing..they stood near the boarder and watch. Then Kurdish troops killed all ISIS members in Kobane and saved Kobane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg8ALNVkNnE
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Dizzy. on December 02, 2015, 12:17:05 am

just check in first page at the video how turkish police shoutout like ISIS members with ''Allah akbar''


what you mean ,anyone say ''Allah akbar'' is with ISIS?
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Hevar. on December 02, 2015, 12:32:21 am
I don't get it, anyone say ''Allah akbar is with ISIS?

Are you trying to be funny or what?

They are acting same like ISIS, i never seen a army walking around and shooting up at air and screaming ''Allah Akba'' and all that. Cmon..They are in NATO and acting like some sort of beginniers... They should act more professional. There is alot of footage on internet that Turkish army chilin with ISIS members or helping them to the hospital.

Here is a footage in Istanbul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f5-TM-67Gg
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Hevar. on December 02, 2015, 12:35:29 am
More proof

(http://cdn3.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2015/11/article-2666854-1F1297D100000578-700_634x501.jpg)


Recep Tayip Erdogan's son "BILAL ERDOGAN" with his ISIS brothers
https://twitter.com/Dilxazsofi/status/513283816434450432/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Kostas on December 02, 2015, 12:36:37 am
We're actually discussing about a war taking part right fucking now, in an international server... Where there are people form pretty much every part of the earth. What point are we trying to make? Has there ever been a war started by a country against another country, without atleast a huge part of it's folk supporting that call? Ofcourse there are Turks supporting the situation, and if the Republic of Macedonia was to form a terrorist group and attack Bulgary, where do you think greeks would lay closer to? And ofcourse people from Kurdistan are against Turkey's decision. What's the point you're trying to make? Which side is right? It's war, there's no right side.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Hevar. on December 02, 2015, 12:37:31 am
We're actually discussing about a war taking part right f**cking now, in an international server... Where there are people form pretty much every part of the earth. What point are we trying to make? Has there ever been a war started by a country against another country, without atleast a huge part of it's folk supporting that call? Ofcourse there are Turks supporting the situation, and if the Republic of Macedonia was to form a terrorist group and attack Bulgary, where do you think greeks would lay closer to? And ofcourse people from Kurdistan are against Turkey's decision. What's the point you're trying to make? Which side is right? It's war, there's no right side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJEMzvBRIcc
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Kostas on December 02, 2015, 12:42:54 am
More proof

(http://cdn3.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2015/11/article-2666854-1F1297D100000578-700_634x501.jpg)


Recep Tayip Erdogan's son "BILAL ERDOGAN" with his ISIS brothers
https://twitter.com/Dilxazsofi/status/513283816434450432/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

And there are shops selling "Golden Dawn" T-Shirts and shit in Greece. Does that mean that Greece wants to kill every non greek in our country? Does it mean that I'd kill every non-greek that lives around me? Every apple tree has bad apples.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Hevar. on December 02, 2015, 12:45:15 am
And there are shops selling "Golden Dawn" T-Shirts and shit in Greece. Does that mean that Greece wants to kill every non greek in our country? Does it mean that I'd kill every non-greek that lives around me? Every apple tree has bad apples.

But thats not normal to open a shop which sells product in their name.

So you think its okey to open a shop in Paris to sell ISIS stuff? Do you think that is okey? They would get raided by SWAT directly and been shutdown. But in Turkey selling ISIS t-shirt is okey i guess



btw....this is like someone opening a clotheshop in Germany and selling nazi clothes, do you think its acceptable? NO cuz its banned and forbidden to sell those kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: brian1996 on December 02, 2015, 02:32:53 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJEMzvBRIcc
f**cking rekt. #Turkeyiskill
http://awdnews.com/top-news/russian-president-to-turkish-ambassador-tell-your-dictator-president-he-can-go-to-hell-along-with-his-isis-terrorists,-i-will-make-syria-a-big-stalingrad-for-him
This was long overdue, finally Russia is going to end them.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Emre on December 02, 2015, 02:09:51 pm
btw....this is like someone opening a clotheshop in Germany and selling nazi clothes, do you think its acceptable? NO cuz its banned and forbidden to sell those kind of stuff.
That's because Germany is a constitutional democracy. Turkey is too conservative  to prohibit such stuff.

I'm not sure where to cut your message up since it's incoherent but I guess this is your 'evaluation'. Basically you 'don't give a shit', okay.
That's pretty much it. I have no problem with Kurds having their own state. It's just very risky at this time.

So, the reason IS forces can 'recover' in 'certain areas' is because then they can fight Kurdish troops, because of the government? I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The Turkish government -is- trying to help ISIS? Didn't you just say that was 'bullshit'?
If not fighting them and letting them get away immediately after recovery to fight Kurdish troops who're as much of a threat is helping IS, then they are most likely being helped by the IS. If you look at it in a teleological way though, it is not helping at all, he is letting them recover so both, the Kurds and IS can fight each other up to the point at which both are no longer a threat to Turkey. That's the means to an end I was talking about. That's the real evil within.

So here you bash the Kurds who form pretty much the biggest opposition IS has right now on the ground. I'm starting to think you're supporting ISIS, but then again you just spoke of them as if they're not affiliated with Turkey, a sentiment I share, by the way.
The PKK has had no other priorities but to disable Turkish affairs. To make it clear, I do not endorse Erdogan's previously mentioned strategy but I'm assuming attacking the IS would have fatal consequences because it's them who're thinking of Turkey as next-to-be-attacked. It's just a matter of time. I'm not entirely sure about the right thing to do other than uniting the less violent ethnic minority with ready Turkish soldiers to help defending at least until it is solved to the point of having a calm situation. Then again, that is not compatible with the current government and not even I myself can entirely support that idea since it's merely utopic and either party will stab the other in the back.


TL;DR I would enjoy seeing Turkish forces coming up against IS but it's likely to trigger even more chaos.
I mainly agree with this, but what do you mean by outnumbered? Pretty much everything Russia has is numbers. They don't have any good military equipment, they're untrained, they're poor and they really don't have anything to show for themselves except for numbers.

In conclusion, I'm not sure what your stance on this is apart from being indifferent to the Kurdish struggle and disliking Russia.
Them being untrained and very dependent makes them too vulnerable to the point of considering it outnumbered. I'm not talking about the amount of soldiers per se.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Huntsman on December 02, 2015, 03:02:42 pm
More proof

(http://cdn3.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2015/11/article-2666854-1F1297D100000578-700_634x501.jpg)


Recep Tayip Erdogan's son "BILAL ERDOGAN" with his ISIS brothers
https://twitter.com/Dilxazsofi/status/513283816434450432/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

And in the meantime, most clothing shops in Europe and America have Che Guevara themed clothing, despite the atrocities this man has committed.
If you're gonna pick on things, don't be one sided :)
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: MrTony on December 02, 2015, 03:43:42 pm
It's funny how the EU plans to resettle 400-500,000 "Syrians" from Turkey into the European Union. Orban has already agreed to it and the announcement of this will be made in a few days in Berlin.


Greece and Italy have been begging for money to stop the crisis for a decade now. Germany refused, called us racists and threatened to take us to court. When Turkey does the same, Germany is like "Here you go friend, we love you <3"
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Mikal on December 02, 2015, 05:04:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJEMzvBRIcc
Wow big respect for the speaker, telling it how it is.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: BojanS on December 02, 2015, 05:19:43 pm
I hope a year or two from now this ISIS thing gets solved.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on December 02, 2015, 06:33:42 pm
On a long-term basis, Russia is not capable of anything, which doesn't exclude their power on a shorter term though...

I just can't..
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Hevar. on December 02, 2015, 07:17:35 pm
I hope a year or two from now this ISIS thing gets solved.

Nah...as long Turkey funding ISIS and NATO doesn't do anything about it. ISIS gonna be hard to remove, because they got very powerful weapons and high-tech stuff.

I hope Russia sends mark troops soon =)
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Aca on December 02, 2015, 10:25:23 pm
ISIS talking to ISIS, what's strange?  :lol:
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: brian1996 on December 02, 2015, 11:08:42 pm
ISIS gonna be hard to remove, because they got very powerful weapons and high-tech stuff.
Sticks and stones, wooden weapons, yes very hard to remove.
Just throw in the Tsar Bomba and the entire middle east is dealt with.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Huntsman on December 03, 2015, 08:32:34 am
Where's Hitler when you need him? :(
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Mikal on December 03, 2015, 01:05:31 pm
Where's Hitler when you need him? :(
Why would anyone need him? :uhm:
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Huntsman on December 03, 2015, 02:14:25 pm
Why would anyone need him? :uhm:

If he was alive, ISIS would no longer be a problem by now.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Mikal on December 03, 2015, 02:21:06 pm
If he was alive, ISIS would no longer be a problem by now.
No, we'd just have WW2 still and millions of people being executed for no good reason.
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: BojanS on December 03, 2015, 02:33:35 pm
Where's Hitler when you need him? :(
Your way of thinking is pathetic.  :uhm:
Title: Re: Turkey Border Guards Caught Chatting with ISIS
Post by: Devin on December 03, 2015, 03:16:37 pm
Where's Hitler when you need him? :(

You disgust me, as some clearly don't know how to behave this will be locked.
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