Is it time for group bans to be implemented where an entire groups members get removed from the server as the differentiation between roleplay and killing is lost?It's not just time, it's long overdue...
Agreed. Mafia's going to an enemy's territory just to piss on them attracting massive police attention. I wouldn't even call it a mafia. It's a riot mob.
Who would ever have thought Argonath is a roleplay server?Me.
We do hope people can understand the difference between killing other groups members day in and day out for little reasons like "He was in my town" or "he killed my family member".This is completely against Argonathian server rules. And everyone who use simplest pathetic reasons for shoutouts must be punished, and who's not punished yet must start the countdown.
Some call it roleplay whilst others just do it to kill others.No, it's not roleplay. Below is the quote from Teddy:
We need to see more player-to-player interaction before engaging. There should never be an instance where you roll up and are shooting within a couple of seconds for entirely new situations. Interactions also need to have content, context, and purpose. No more of this bullshit, we're enemies so I'll give you 3 seconds to do something or I'll kill you. No more of this do this or die. You need to create opportunity for the RP interaction to expand and go either way. You need to accept RP will not always end in your favor. You need to accept sometimes you will lose.
Is it time for group bans to be implemented where an entire groups members get removed from the server as the differentiation between roleplay and killing is lost?If an entire group is involved in such activity against rules, yes, group bans will solve this.
Why must most if not all of these roleplay situations between groups turn into a shootout with the other group or even cops?Because peoples got nothing to lose, they die, they re-spawn somewhere else. So this is being used as strategy to get caught the other group members banned lately. Since some feel that they got nice backup when it comes to admin judgement perspective wise.
Is that the only thing people know nowadays?No, it's not the only thing. But it's the only thing that concerns you and everyone. Since it's against the rules. A payer can spend 8 hours playing, only 1 minute in this situation label him into this topic.
Generally a mafia wouldn't want cops interfering in their matters but here it seems the only reason to kill other groups members is to get into a chase with either another group or police.No Mafia or criminal groups needs cops. But this problem belong to polices. It's said before when orange dot's were removed that cops won't interact with criminal activities if they don't have roleplay report of the criminal activity. But this is another prof that cops do nothing but just follow criminals, typical CNR format.
Agreed.
I wouldn't call a group a mafia who go to an enemy's territory just to provoke and piss on them attracting massive police attention. It's a riot mob.
But a whole group ban is far fetched. There are some loyal to a group who promote healthy roleplay. They may not even know what happened in game but suddenly get banned on logging in. Banning everyone involved in the scene, I completely support.
I agree but still laughed with some hipocricy coming from the groups themselves.
Unfortunately I witnessed a case today where your guys were abused so heavily that caused a bad feeling to everyone who saw that ugly scene in flint county. @Gnb_22 can confirm what i'm saying: that not one cares to fight and be death-matched but even if you've done the crime in Bayside without any one present, a cop wil come after few minutes to shot you down.
I what I remember is that we tried initiating RP with one of your guys and two other people from your camp started blazing guns.
The server couldn't be any more freeroam these days, it's most of the time hard not to have a 'confrontation' that doesn't turn into a shootout, for example a day or two ago FLA confronted S****** at GS10 in Flint County, we tried to talk but they just decided to walk round and round in circles without speaking a single word, how are you meant to have RP in a situation like that? One side might want to RP, but the other does not, and the result of that is both sides shooting.
We do hope people can understand the difference between killing other groups members day in and day out for little reasons like "He was in my town" or "he killed my family member"Might look like reasons but are not reasons to start any shit.
Should we have a gun-free December to see if the roots of roleplay still exist within the server? You don't need a gun to kill someone or even to roleplay.
AFAIK, cops got free few weapons, so this is nothing new.
Not free guns, I am talking about no guns at all within the server. Disabling all weapons for December.Please do it
Not free guns, I am talking about no guns at all within the server. Disabling all weapons for December.
Who would ever have thought Argonath is a roleplay server?
Honestly? I've always seen Argonath as some sort of very-light-rp/freeroam server. :)
Should we have a gun-free December to see if the roots of roleplay still exist within the server? You don't need a gun to kill someone or even to roleplay.
Hmm, im speaking about corleones being shot from cops in middle of conversation, in flint county, however. And no, im not starting group arguments, and even if i will speak with facts and evidences if do, and clearly not here.
yo , what about the officers ? remove the weapon and leave the bat and spray only?
Using guns does not equal to bad role play. Killing people or shootouts are not "non-rp" or bad RP.
Killing is a part of the roleplay. I don't know why people are going crazy when they die in Argonath. Even if all roleplays end in a shootout, it doesn't mean that it is bad roleplay.
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Don't Judge Devin's people please.
We don't have water, get your facts straight.
You have water, you just drink and well do your bodily needs in the same water. I WATCH UNICEF COMMERCIALS OKAY.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyc5DUciL1c
Just to add does this apply for everyone including cops correct?
Not free guns, I am talking about no guns at all within the server. Disabling all weapons for December.
Also with groups doing such rulebreaks can you as HQ design possibly a "3 strikes and your out" system, this implies that if the group is currently doing such things instead of going in and banning the group, you simply inform them "Hey look we aint happy with "blah blah blah" count this as a strike" Im pretty sure that will work as a kick up the ass to allow groups to change their path in a more warning way. Of-course if they continue and they hit the 3rd strike, then as it states "your out" and then go-ahead with possible group ban.Good idea.
Adding onto this sometimes it is not the group, sometimes its a minority within a group bring the group down, groups need to pick more wisely who they wan't within their group before making the correct judgement.
Adding onto this sometimes it is not the group, sometimes its a minority within a group bring the group down, groups need to pick more wisely who they wan't within their group before making the correct judgement.
Can't wait for one hour chases with cops on foot.:lol: Why you heff to ruin it?
Not free guns, I am talking about no guns at all within the server. Disabling all weapons for December.We aint british, we american, cops can't live without guns.
We aint british, we american, cops can't live without guns.Atleast the cops in the UK have tasers.
Agreed.
I wouldn't call a group a mafia who go to an enemy's territory just to provoke and piss on them attracting massive police attention. It's a riot mob.
But a whole group ban is far fetched. There are some loyal to a group who promote healthy roleplay. They may not even know what happened in game but suddenly get banned on logging in. Banning everyone involved in the scene, I completely support.
We aint british, we american, cops can't live without guns.This is what happens when nobody has guns.
Sadly far too many situations are just because of petty reasons like "He shot my friend" each day.
Should we have a gun-free December to see if the roots of roleplay still exist within the server? You don't need a gun to kill someone or even to roleplay.On on.
Don't forget:
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Like I said, Its one of them ideas that sound good on paper, but it blows ass in reality. Sure remove guns in peak activity season when the server's player account has started rising again. Anyone who supports this hates argonath.This, it will turn out like application restrictions on cops.
Like I said, Its one of them ideas that sound good on paper, but it blows ass in reality. Sure remove guns in peak activity season when the server's player account has started rising again. Anyone who supports this hates argonath.
It's clear people would rather have guns than go for less than a month without them (Even though the majority voted to remove guns). I guess we will keep guns; there will be changes however. Staff will punish harsher for misuse of weapons and rulebreaking than before, especially in cases of group dm fests with the excuse of "roleplay" which included a few lines of /me.Damn, I was looking forward to mass-katana fights. :(
It's clear people would rather have guns than go for less than a month without them (Even though the majority voted to remove guns). I guess we will keep guns; there will be changes however. Staff will punish harsher for misuse of weapons and rulebreaking than before, especially in cases of group dm fests with the excuse of "roleplay" which included a few lines of /me.
It's clear people would rather have guns than go for less than a month without them (Even though the majority voted to remove guns). I guess we will keep guns; there will be changes however. Staff will punish harsher for misuse of weapons and rulebreaking than before, especially in cases of group dm fests with the excuse of "roleplay" which included a few lines of /me.
I hope admin team will consider harsher punishments for /su abuse and cop abuse too. Not trying to be offtopic but if I get abused by a cop, right thing to do for an admin is investigate as an admin and deal punishments instead of just saying "ask for an investigation at PD".
It's clear people would rather have guns than go for less than a month without them (Even though the majority voted to remove guns). I guess we will keep guns.
Whole point of this topic was to see if we can somehow promote roleplay on the server and with this post you are literally asking staff team to handle situations you are supposed to roleplay.
If I get wrongly suspected by a cop, it's an abuse of a command " /su ". It is not roleplayed, it is not "corrupt cop RP", it's just a player abusing a script to gain money, just like trucking script abusing.I'm pretty sure if a cop does that randomly he'll get punished. Problem is that its rare that someone bothers to report the cop, most would just deal with it their way.
If I get wrongly suspected by a cop, it's an abuse of a command " /su ". It is not roleplayed, it is not "corrupt cop RP", it's just a player abusing a script to gain money, just like trucking script abusing.