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Title: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Brian on December 18, 2015, 03:58:29 pm
Hi everyone, in the past few days, every time I try to connect to any server after restarting my laptop, GTA SA refuses to start up. Usually in task manager, a GTASA tab would appear, but it does not start up at all, the only way to fix the game is by reinstalling the whole game, which is getting annoying. I hope anyone has a fix.
(http://i.imgur.com/PXHvuQm.png)

Feel free to ask for any more information in case it's neccesary, hope someone is able to help me.

(http://i.imgur.com/HtBW2Vx.png)
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: AK47 on December 18, 2015, 04:26:35 pm
Tried downgrading then upgrading graphics? Had the same issue when I got W10 and now it works perfectly!
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: TiMoN on December 18, 2015, 04:29:31 pm
Try running on Windows 7/XP compatibility.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Brian on December 18, 2015, 04:37:16 pm
Try running on Windows 7/XP compatibility.
Game starts up now, but it gives the following error once the loading bar is done (Don't have any mods, just a clean install with GTA and SAMP)
(http://i.imgur.com/O9AWQfj.png)

Tried downgrading then upgrading graphics? Had the same issue when I got W10 and now it works perfectly!
What exactly do you mean, downgrading from W10 to W7?


PS: SAMP was running fine before, this just started happening recently.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Kenji on December 18, 2015, 04:55:30 pm
Restart you PC Again  Then after the restart rename the Folder that your gta installed in Like if the folder name is SAMP rename it to samp1

when you rename it open samp it will tell you to locate it do it then you can join the game again

that happend for me just 2 days ago  same windows 10
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Bran_91 on December 18, 2015, 04:57:09 pm
Try re-naming your GTA SA folder into GTA SA1 or move it to other location. Nice specs btw I hope I get them one day. :)
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Brian on December 18, 2015, 05:12:10 pm
Restart you PC Again  Then after the restart rename the Folder that your gta installed in Like if the folder name is SAMP rename it to samp1

when you rename it open samp it will tell you to locate it do it then you can join the game again

that happend for me just 2 days ago  same windows 10

That appears to have worked, do I have to rename the folder every time I restart my computer though?
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Kenji on December 18, 2015, 05:14:09 pm
That appears to have worked, do I have to rename the folder every time I restart my computer though?

nope just once

try to /q and re join?
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Brian on December 19, 2015, 07:14:38 pm
Appears that after PC restart, issue has returned. Changeing the folders name did fix it for that session, but once the PC restarts it returns, so still need help.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: AK47 on December 19, 2015, 08:04:31 pm

What exactly do you mean, downgrading from W10 to W7?

No, remove the graphicsdrivers and then install the latests again
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Link9rly on December 20, 2015, 12:16:56 am
Do you have multiple monitor setup?
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Brian on December 20, 2015, 12:58:23 am
Do you have multiple monitor setup?

One monitor, it's a laptop.

No, remove the graphicsdrivers and then install the latests again

Tried that, will try to connect tomorrow iwthout changing folder name and see.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Salmonella on December 20, 2015, 02:23:17 am
Try deleting gta_sa.set in GTASA User Files
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Brian on December 20, 2015, 01:02:11 pm
All of the above items have not been able to assist me on a permanent basis so far, only on temporarily basis, I would like to thank you all for the assistance how ever.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: TheRock on December 27, 2015, 08:10:04 pm
I'd re-install DirectX + the game once again if I were you..
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Gandalf on December 27, 2015, 09:01:39 pm
In old Windows versions you needed to disable the Data Encrytion
Protocol.
Another issue was the strong protection of /Program Files, moving the folder to something not residing under Program Files would lower the protection and solve the issue.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Link9rly on December 27, 2015, 09:57:34 pm
In old Windows versions you needed to disable the Data Encrytion
Protocol.
Another issue was the strong protection of /Program Files, moving the folder to something not residing under Program Files would lower the protection and solve the issue.

I actually did forget about this. You'd go to My PC > System Properties > Advanced > Performance Options > Data Execution Prevention.
The odd part is that I don't have it enabled. You might need to install/enable DirectPlay if you haven't yet. Also, set SAMP to run as admin along with your gta_sa.exe. Another thing would be installing Silent Patch.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Gandalf on December 27, 2015, 10:11:00 pm
I actually did forget about this.
And people tell I am old and senile.... ;)
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Robin# on December 27, 2015, 10:29:28 pm
I do suggest you to try those steps:-

1. Make sure that you have Framework for-Games last version, and Visual C++ 2005-2013 pack.

2. Windows issues: my game was lagging/crashing when I updated my Windows to Windows 10 Home, I bought windows 8.1 Pro, and yeah, it is not crashing/lagging, believe me, I have GTX 980 could run GTA V +90 FPS, just GTA San Andreas 10-15 FPS in Windows 10 Home, Just when I changed the windows to Windows 8.1 Pro, everything changed.

My point is, try to get a better Windows like Windows 10 Pro, Windows 7 ultimate... etc...

3. Update your GPU: I don't think that it would work, but try.

4. Re-install SA:MP/GTA San Andreas: Try to not install it in the same folder you downloaded GTA in, just create a folder in desk "D", or at the desktop and download it there.

NOTE!!:
Delete everything belongs to GTA San Andreas, also GTA San Andreas User Files in the Documentary folder. [Use Control Panel to remove it]

5. Run as administrator.

6. Go to "System > Advanced System settings > Performance > Settings > Data Execution Prevention > Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select > Add - SA:MP.

7. Make sure that you ain't using mods. [ofc you don't].

You'r free to contact me via Skype.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Fuzzy on December 28, 2015, 12:58:52 am
My point is, try to get a better Windows like Windows 10 Pro, Windows 7 ultimate... etc...
That will not affect at all. It's the same thing, just different features.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Robin# on December 28, 2015, 01:17:50 am
That will not affect at all. It's the same thing, just different features.
Probably. But he still can try the other steps.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Janar on December 28, 2015, 11:15:49 am
1. Make sure that you have Framework for-Games last version, and Visual C++ 2005-2013 pack.
What is Framework for Games? O_o
And as far as I know, GTA:SA and SA:MP do not require C++ packages.
3. Update your GPU: I don't think that it would work, but try.
We are dealing with a new laptop here, with GTX980M.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Robin# on December 28, 2015, 11:30:43 am
What is Framework for Games? O_o
And as far as I know, GTA:SA and SA:MP do not require C++ packages.We are dealing with a new laptop here, with GTX980M.
Lets see if the other steps do work.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: MikeSangelo on January 03, 2016, 06:16:09 am
Same issue. I originally tried launching GTA SA on my old tower which just updated to the latest build of Windows 10 (10586) and it kept crashing. I did a clean install on my laptop, also running the latest version of W10 and it was crashing as well. Did all of the common tips and tricks that would normally work, but I have yet to even find a temporary solution.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Adam on January 03, 2016, 11:32:49 am
Same issue. I originally tried launching GTA SA on my old tower which just updated to the latest build of Windows 10 (10586) and it kept crashing. I did a clean install on my laptop, also running the latest version of W10 and it was crashing as well. Did all of the common tips and tricks that would normally work, but I have yet to even find a temporary solution.

I've had similar issue after updating to the latest build of Windows 10, I really can't remember how i exactly fixed it, but here's what comes to my mind of the steps I've taken:

1. Uninstall your game and delete everything related in the documents folder.
2. Restart.
3. Reinstall SA and SA:MP in a different folder than the old one, make sure it has a different name.
4. Restart again. (I remember the game not starting, but after this step it just worked)
5. Run as administrator.

*Do not change any of the compatibility settings unless you've ran out of options.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: MikeSangelo on January 03, 2016, 08:23:11 pm
I've had similar issue after updating to the latest build of Windows 10, I really can't remember how i exactly fixed it, but here's what comes to my mind of the steps I've taken:

1. Uninstall your game and delete everything related in the documents folder.
2. Restart.
3. Reinstall SA and SA:MP in a different folder than the old one, make sure it has a different name.
4. Restart again. (I remember the game not starting, but after this step it just worked)
5. Run as administrator.

*Do not change any of the compatibility settings unless you've ran out of options.

I appreciate the suggestions, however it seems that I am still not able to start a game.

If I launch single player, after the intro video the game stops responding, and in multi-player, after the introduction bit, it crashes to the desktop. I suppose it is a windows related problem, but if anyone else has any suggestions, I am more than willing to attempt them!
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Janar on January 04, 2016, 12:55:22 pm
I appreciate the suggestions, however it seems that I am still not able to start a game.

If I launch single player, after the intro video the game stops responding, and in multi-player, after the introduction bit, it crashes to the desktop. I suppose it is a windows related problem, but if anyone else has any suggestions, I am more than willing to attempt them!

If the game stops responding after the intro video, then fault is very likely your game. Might want to try reinstall or use another installation media to install the game again.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Brian on January 04, 2016, 01:15:56 pm
Ye our issues are not the same Mike as my game did not start up at all. Anyways I seem to have been able to fix it. Atlwast for now. I guess the topic can stay open so we can try and help Mike his issue. But from what I can hear it's the game and not windows. Try getting another gta sa.exe that might fix your issue. I'll link you one in Pm once I am on my pc or contact me on Skype.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Link9rly on January 04, 2016, 01:16:49 pm
Another thing that I've tried with another person having this problem is that they had Xbox's GameBar enabled. Disabling it actually fixed it.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Axison on January 04, 2016, 02:10:41 pm
Other's have said it but i'd like to say it again, Move your GTA San Andreas folder to the desktop. Ever since W8, i've had tremendous amounts issues with running GTA SA. However, since W10 this issue has resolved for me. Its worth a try imo.

EDIT: Also rename your folder(works most of the time), however nesting your folders is also worth trying out.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Brian on January 04, 2016, 02:59:58 pm
All of the above did not work other than changing folder names on startup, and then it only worked for one launch.
I found my own way which was selecting a random folder through settings ane then the correct folder when the connection error came up which was also just a temporary fix
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Fuzzy on January 04, 2016, 03:19:04 pm
This makes me really curious what causes this to happen as I personally never had any issues with SAMP on neither W8 or W10.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: AK47 on January 04, 2016, 03:37:29 pm
This makes me really curious what causes this to happen as I personally never had any issues with SAMP on neither W8 or W10.

Yeah same. The only issue I had with W10 was some wierd freezelag which was fixed by upgrading my graphicdrivers manually
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: MikeSangelo on January 07, 2016, 07:16:03 am
It appears as if the above suggestions still have not remediated whatever issue I am experiencing. I reinstalled the game twice as well but to no avail, at least on my laptop. I tried some of the other suggestions up here on my desktop with no success either. I'll have to investigate further on my tower and see what I can do.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Robin# on January 07, 2016, 02:10:12 pm
It appears as if the above suggestions still have not remediated whatever issue I am experiencing. I reinstalled the game twice as well but to no avail, at least on my laptop. I tried some of the other suggestions up here on my desktop with no success either. I'll have to investigate further on my tower and see what I can do.
Contact me via Skype, I will try to help you.
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: Janar on January 24, 2016, 09:41:59 pm
Talked to Brian, apparently SA:MP appears to be working now for him. @MikeSangelo, did you get it fixed?
Title: Re: [SA:MP/ GTA SA] Game not starting up after PC restart.[W10]
Post by: MikeSangelo on January 28, 2016, 06:45:24 pm
Talked to Brian, apparently SA:MP appears to be working now for him. @MikeSangelo, did you get it fixed?

@Janar - Unfortunately not. I'm back at school so I am not as worried, but it is still really confusing as to why every trick in the book is not working on either one of my PC's.
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