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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: TiMoN on December 27, 2015, 01:54:38 pm

Title: /piss
Post by: TiMoN on December 27, 2015, 01:54:38 pm
I don't get the point of it being removed? It was a funny command and had its uses too. Sure many players used it to urinate on admins, cops and groves, but that all can be solved in a roleplay manner(or /l stop in the admin's case). Last I checked /bar 4 is also used in a provocative way for a long time, why isn't it removed too?

Many players would like to see /piss return, those who get offended either /pm the guy to stop, /report in case of trolling or /call 911 in case of RP.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Mikal on December 27, 2015, 02:02:19 pm
I /bar 4 on people all the time, they don't get annoyed. :rolleyes:

#BringBackPiss
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Salmonella on December 27, 2015, 02:13:01 pm
I never understood why people get upset over an animation of some guy pissing in SA:MP. Sure, some people in Argonath are just there to troll and dick around, but that's on them, not the animations they may have used in an attempt to do so.

I'd like to see /piss return, I missed it in recent times after neutralizing FLA scoundrels and had to resort to t-bagging, which just doesn't feel the same.  :gand: :D

If it gets added back I hope we can all be cool about it and not ''implement extra piss rules and piss regulations, filed under article 4.63 of the Argonath RPG rulebook, requiring you to have a /piss license, requiring you to play at least this long...'' etc. Just common sense should do.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: beLTa on December 27, 2015, 02:34:56 pm
I just love this command, bring it back!
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: naveed on December 27, 2015, 02:47:31 pm
I just love this command, bring it back!
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Gnb_22 on December 27, 2015, 02:48:18 pm
 /wank pls?
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: TiMoN on December 27, 2015, 02:50:39 pm
/wank pls?
I don't think we're ever getting any command related to that.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Rei on December 27, 2015, 03:06:48 pm
No animation containing sexual stuff will be added.
And /piss won't return as it was only used to provoke people.

The choice to not add /piss was decided by DHR.Mike who at the time was in charge of overseeing animations. Seeing as nobody has replaced him in that position the choice he made has not been reviewed, revoked, or in anyway changes. I can see /piss was fairly annoying and rarely was used in a RP manner... often used in a trollish way. This is undeniable.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: TiMoN on December 27, 2015, 03:12:39 pm
So /piss is removed because developers think it was "provocative", what about the players who wish to use it for the sake of gameplay?

Last I checked even srs rp servers with 500 players have /piss.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Stivi on December 27, 2015, 03:18:01 pm
/piss is love.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Dizzy. on December 27, 2015, 03:25:10 pm
bring back /piss please, i believe we have enough admins who can handle provocative situations.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Devin on December 27, 2015, 03:31:23 pm
bring back /piss please, i believe we have enough admins who can handle provocative situations.

Could we for once say we can expect players to behave in a more mature manner instead of saying that there are enough admins to deal with those misbehaving?
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Salmonella on December 27, 2015, 03:40:08 pm
Could we for once say we can expect players to behave in a more mature manner instead of saying that there are enough admins to deal with those misbehaving?

I don't know but why always mature? Immaturity isn't necessarily bad or against the rules, right? If some Pakistani 13 year old wants to have a go at my character with /piss I couldn't care less lol
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Rei on December 27, 2015, 03:41:01 pm
Why mature ? :P  isn't a game made for kids at all :S
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: psyron on December 27, 2015, 03:41:53 pm
there will be players who would just go around and do /piss on players, if not the trolls, newbies would. unnecessary trouble for admins
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Devin on December 27, 2015, 03:45:00 pm
I don't know but why always mature? Immaturity isn't necessarily bad or against the rules, right? If some Pakistani 13 year old wants to have a go at my character with /piss I couldn't care less lol

I am referring to the same kind of behaviour that led to some of your previous bans as well as others. Disrupting others game play and wasting peoples time.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Stivi on December 27, 2015, 03:46:32 pm
Why mature ? :P  isn't a game made for kids at all :S
GTA SA is 18+.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Rei on December 27, 2015, 03:47:10 pm
GTA SA is 18+.

Then what are you doing here?

you guess my point right , none gives a fu about it.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Mikal on December 27, 2015, 03:48:25 pm
The fact here is, /piss is no more disrupting than doing /bar 4 on someone, it is just an animation, it's the same as writing something worthless on chat, it doesn't effect anyone.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Stivi on December 27, 2015, 03:50:11 pm
none gives a fu about it.
obv lol but ur argument was invalid.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Dennis. on December 27, 2015, 03:54:32 pm
obv lol but ur argument was invalid.
rekt
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: TiMoN on December 27, 2015, 04:00:19 pm
All this immaturity shit can be solved by either:
Asking him to stop
/report'ing him
/call 911
Shooting his ballsack.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Dizzy. on December 27, 2015, 04:04:22 pm
Could we for once say we can expect players to behave in a more mature manner instead of saying that there are enough admins to deal with those misbehaving?

i think my opinion make sense. if admins punish everyone use /piss as a provocative way you won't find any provoke outlook aftertime.

or create /piss rule.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: psyron on December 27, 2015, 04:05:10 pm
All this immaturity shit can be solved by either:
Asking him to stop
/report'ing him
/call 911
Shooting his ballsack.

unnecessary trouble
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Devin on December 27, 2015, 04:07:20 pm
or create /piss rule.

There's no need for rules to define every action a player can make or can't make.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Mikal on December 27, 2015, 04:28:19 pm
People need to stop creating issues over problems that don't exist.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Salmonella on December 27, 2015, 04:54:35 pm
I am referring to the same kind of behaviour that led to some of your previous bans as well as others. Disrupting others game play and wasting peoples time.

And I'm saying /piss isn't in any way a tool that allowed this to happen and its removal didn't stop it from happening in the future.

I never even used /piss myself in whatever 'troll-context' it could have and I haven't seen anyone 'abuse' it.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Mang on December 27, 2015, 07:33:35 pm
I don't really see how using /piss could be provocative, it's just an animation and if you get upset because of it you should just chill out and deal with the troll yourself, in an rp way.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Fuzzy on December 27, 2015, 08:22:31 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/JNfXiL7.png)
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: AhmadLov on December 27, 2015, 11:45:59 pm
I feel I need to spend my need and i want to /piss asap
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Mikal on December 27, 2015, 11:48:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/wS8DE.png)
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Chase on December 28, 2015, 02:13:38 am
Sorry that I contributed to the reason of the removal. :(
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on December 28, 2015, 04:06:14 am
There's no need for rules to define every action a player can make or can't make.

Common sense.
Don't sexually harass someone or take the chance of offending someone.
If you're going to piss on people to troll the people or the police... move along!

But yes, I missed it as sometimes I would catch people urinating over a mans car / on a wall blatantly whilst drunk and I'd get to hold them at gun point (a few metres away) yelling "PUT AWAY YOUR PENIS AND PUT YOUR HANDS UP" (>inb4 he weaponises his piss) , then I wait for backup, if they arrive, I get them to arrest them, and I simply help them, and as the person walks into the investigation office, I get to say "you indecently conducted yourself in public so no ticket and seeing as I suspected you, I can either unsuspect you (which is not happening as I've not abused the command) or you're going to jail.

It happened at-least six times. Good fun.
So long as people don't start jerking off on people then it's ok.

A simple modification to the rules / server, as a developer did when I made a discussion on how the game is 18 and even though we have children, someone said by law / rules of samp it should be pointed out to them that the server can and will contain content of adult / 18+ nature.

Simple rule: Do not do things of a sexual or grotesque nature that may offend people. Sexual harassment is a crime and in a game, even though the single player had a lot of sex scenes, etc, it is not as bad as Chase coming upto you and wanking in your face...

Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Jay42 on December 28, 2015, 06:10:28 am
I don't get the point of it being removed? It was a funny command and had its uses too. Sure many players used it to urinate on admins, cops and groves, but that all can be solved in a roleplay manner(or /l stop in the admin's case). Last I checked /bar 4 is also used in a provocative way for a long time, why isn't it removed too?

Many players would like to see /piss return, those who get offended either /pm the guy to stop, /report in case of trolling or /call 911 in case of RP.

 :app: :app: :app: I agree, bring it back!!
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Thom on December 30, 2015, 10:43:29 am
In the end, it's not what a command does, it's the way it's used. If someone is immature or likes to troll, they won't wait for /piss to come back they just do it, in every focking way possible.

My point is, if we get /piss back, it won't turn normal players into sexual harassement beasts. Trollers exist without and with /piss
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Chuck_Norris on December 30, 2015, 09:00:21 pm
I miss holding something big in my hands other than a baseballbat :(
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Gandalf on December 30, 2015, 09:07:06 pm
I doubt we have players that are so underage they do not know how pissing works.
The problem lies more with those players that are full of hormones and can not limit sexuality to their private life....
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: TiMoN on December 30, 2015, 09:34:44 pm
I doubt we have players that are so underage they do not know how pissing works.
The problem lies more with those players that are full of hormones and can not limit sexuality to their private life....
Any child knows how pissing works, point and shoot.
Those with abusive sexual behavior should be removed from the server if people feel uncomfortable around their shit.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Huntsman on December 30, 2015, 10:02:16 pm
Those with abusive sexual behavior should be removed from the server if people feel uncomfortable around their shit.

"cough" Chase Greggor "cough"
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on December 30, 2015, 10:32:17 pm
Any child knows how pissing works, point and shoot.
Those with abusive sexual behavior should be removed from the server if people feel uncomfortable around their shit.

Prevention is best.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Mikal on December 30, 2015, 10:45:52 pm
I don't see how pissing is sexual, maybe I'm not educated enough as to what you people do in other countries though. :lol:
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on December 30, 2015, 10:57:31 pm
I don't see how pissing is sexual, maybe I'm not educated enough as to what you people do in other countries though. :lol:

Let's make it simple for the simple folk.

An example of a possible scenario that is likely given the history that has gone on in the online world.

There are some who will associate /piss with sexual act.
There they will then think "hey that 11 year old boy did /piss on a game... Hmm... Maybe I, someone who should know better, can convince him to trades, send me a few dick pics... or jerk off with me c2c on skype. Hmmmm."
I
It's unfortunate but there are some who can not control their train of thoughts.
Mikal... Are you even trying or are you just that innocent?...

These things happen and it's better to be blunt about the actual risk of things than to be tippy toe in my opinion.
Do you understand now what some may be getting at or... not... ?

Time and time, the people who think it's good to do that are waved bye and they become known to Europol.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Benn on December 30, 2015, 10:59:19 pm
I once got punished for pissing on a fire source in a middle of a fire mission in RS4
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on December 30, 2015, 11:01:09 pm
I once got punished for pissing on a fire source in a middle of a fire mission in RS4

The admins don't know how it is in the hood... But hey ho...
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: ProRules on December 30, 2015, 11:27:11 pm
Well, its quiet understandable why it got removed, people just abused it and used it for trolling most of the time.
While its abusable command, i do think its a good idea to bring it back, everything can be abused and used badly, trolls gonna troll anyway and in other ways even if /piss is removed or not.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on December 30, 2015, 11:34:35 pm
Well, its quiet understandable why it got removed, people just abused it and used it for trolling most of the time.
While its abusable command, i do think its a good idea to bring it back, everything can be abused and used badly, trolls gonna troll anyway and in other ways even if /piss is removed or not.

Bring it back.
But at the same time, don't tip toe around what is and what isn't allowed.


Common sense is not common.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: ProRules on December 30, 2015, 11:41:56 pm
Bring it back.
But at the same time, don't tip toe around what is and what isn't allowed.


Common sense is not common.

Yeah sadly many players love it playing dumb, as if they don't know anything.
I do belive the community is built from grown people, that do understand, so if they do abuse it obviously they should get punished.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on December 30, 2015, 11:48:11 pm
Yeah sadly many players love it playing dumb, as if they don't know anything.
I do belive the community is built from grown people, that do understand, so if they do abuse it obviously they should get punished.

A giraffe may be tall but compared to an ant when there's a lion about...


Bottom line is, things need to be made obvious. Because we can not expect everyone to be on the same level.
We can not expect everyone to be programmed to believe this or that.
It should be made evident what is and what is not.

I'm a bastard if I expect you as a complete stranger to know what my favorite puff pastry dessert is.
How do I even know you know what puff pastry is?
Things need to be made clear in a competent way which does not seek to belittle or put down, or exert the existence of ones gonads onto each other.


This is going slightly off topic, but the point is, if such command came back, it would require clear notification as to what you can and what you can not use the command for, or for which situations it should be restricted, and seeing as doing so would be so pedantic, it's best not to have it. Or you could implement it and be like "fuck it, if it happens, it happens".

I don't get the point of it being removed? It was a funny command and had its uses too. Sure many players used it to urinate on admins, cops and groves, but that all can be solved in a roleplay manner(or /l stop in the admin's case). Last I checked /bar 4 is also used in a provocative way for a long time, why isn't it removed too?

Many players would like to see /piss return, those who get offended either /pm the guy to stop, /report in case of trolling or /call 911 in case of RP.

Given all that has been posted above, are you able to compute what's gone on?
Or do you need more explaining? or have you already moved on to the next chew thing?
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: TiMoN on December 31, 2015, 12:46:35 am

Given all that has been posted above, are you able to compute what's gone on?
Or do you need more explaining? or have you already moved on to the next chew thing?
Yeah, before I answer your question I need to know what the fuck are you talking about. We had an instance of some sort and suddenly Argonath turned into some sort of child services. Throughout the last 5-7 years, there was not a single situation involving the shit stated on this topic, what makes you think the ability to urinate has got to do with sending dick pictures and shared masturbating sessions? We have/had female players and there was never anything related to sexual abuse, harassment or dick pics.

You people need to stop coming up with retarded situations and outcomes and face the facts, the fact that all the bullshit about sexual harassment is not even remotely related to /piss.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Jay42 on December 31, 2015, 01:06:41 am
I doubt we have players that are so underage they do not know how pissing works.
The problem lies more with those players that are full of hormones and can not limit sexuality to their private life....
It's an animation like anyother.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: ahmedXD on December 31, 2015, 01:39:20 am
I suggest if you bring this command back to limit its use.
You can only use /piss once every 30min only.
Its just like real life you dont piss every second. :D
P.S Time could be changed to avoid the abuse of the command.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: TiMoN on December 31, 2015, 09:23:59 am
I suggest if you bring this command back to limit its use.
You can only use /piss once every 30min only.
Its just like real life you dont piss every second. :D
P.S Time could be changed to avoid the abuse of the command.
There was never any abuse, it was a bunch of trolls and admins are feeling offended by the presence of this command, no need for unnecessary restrictions.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Devin on December 31, 2015, 12:02:50 pm
No one is feeling offended in the staff team; if anything those offended are the people filing reports on others for nonsense day in and day out.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Pizza4_Games on December 31, 2015, 12:13:47 pm
The admins don't know how it is in the hood... But hey ho...
lol says the cop
OT: I think its fun to bring it back, unless people abuse it by pissing on each other. Maybe you can use the anim for roleplay purposes like being in a bath room and doing your business or pissing somewhere in a quiet corner in public. I also think that the anim could bring alot of attention to the community.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Gandalf on December 31, 2015, 06:50:04 pm
It's an animation like anyother.
Not if you are still with your brain in kindergarten.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: TiMoN on December 31, 2015, 07:08:17 pm
Not if you are still with your brain in kindergarten.
Please show us one instance were /piss was the cause of sexual harassment/child abuse.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Gandalf on December 31, 2015, 08:04:15 pm
Please show us one instance were /piss was the cause of sexual harassment/child abuse.
Sorry I do not disclose logs on command.
But believe me you may be shocked if you could read all.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Mikal on December 31, 2015, 08:09:08 pm
I've seen some graphic stuff on local chat first hand, no /piss included. :gand:

Maybe /l should be removed too, and what about /me? You can do some gross stuff with that.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: TiMoN on December 31, 2015, 08:10:36 pm
Sorry I do not disclose logs on command.
But believe me you may be shocked if you could read all.
Command and orders aside, do you think an animation is really the cause of that? I'm pretty sure those logs are rich of disgusting /me's, so can we have that removed too?
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: LewisChurch on January 02, 2016, 08:39:48 am
It's just a goddamn animation for the love of god. A quarter of this game's content is made of up of sexual suggestive stuff and you're telling me people get triggered because of a basic human function? If people are going to play this game they should know what they're in for.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: RETWY on January 04, 2016, 11:25:31 pm
It's just a goddamn animation for the love of god. A quarter of this game's content is made of up of sexual suggestive stuff and you're telling me people get triggered because of a basic human function? If people are going to play this game they should know what they're in for.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Conk on January 04, 2016, 11:53:24 pm
It's just a goddamn animation for the love of god. A quarter of this game's content is made of up of sexual suggestive stuff and you're telling me people get triggered because of a basic human function? If people are going to play this game they should know what they're in for.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Mikal on January 05, 2016, 12:57:27 am
It's just a goddamn animation for the love of god. A quarter of this game's content is made of up of sexual suggestive stuff and you're telling me people get triggered because of a basic human function? If people are going to play this game they should know what they're in for.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: DinoKid23 on January 05, 2016, 01:17:55 am
It's just a goddamn animation for the love of god. A quarter of this game's content is made of up of sexual suggestive stuff and you're telling me people get triggered because of a basic human function? If people are going to play this game they should know what they're in for.
Title: Re: /piss
Post by: Devin on January 05, 2016, 01:19:09 am
And the purpose of re-posting a quote serves no purpose to the topic. Littering isn't nice.
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