Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Forum and site ideas and information => Topic started by: Benn on January 03, 2016, 02:51:07 pm
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Can we have forum search engine back please?
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I believe it's bugged
@Brian.
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Still bugged, Gandalf and I are working on a solution.
@Gandalf
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Still bugged, Gandalf and I are working on a solution.
@Gandalf
Sweeeeeeet
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Would love to have it fixed. Miss it ;)
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I see a custom search at the top of the forum now! :)
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I see a custom search at the top of the forum now! :)
yeah i noticed it just now. :D
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A little info from Trane and we are able to search once again. :cowboy:
Sadly with the layout of the search bar it wasn't ideal to be placed on the sidebar as you weren't able to see what you were typing in so the top is the next best position.
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Thank you for your time and efforts.
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The only con is that you can't search private boards because it works with google cache, which means it only saves what a guest can see. At least it functions and can be used as a temporary solution until the default smf engine is re-enabled, if it will ever be.
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Good job! Alot better than nothing!
Though I guess it's just the same as using google search right? :D
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Good job! Alot better than nothing!
Though I guess it's just the same as using google search right? :D
You could say that.
However it's modified to search only on www.argonathrpg.eu and www.argonathrpg.com, so it saves you time instead of opening a new window and having to place special para-meters on Google. It as-well uses an overlay design so it is more user-friend and you can simply close the search results and continue with what you were doing.
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Yeah I noticed it has the 'sort by' function, which Google doesn't.
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In the right top of the google popup you can sort by date if that is what you mean.
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The CSE can also be monetized, right?
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The CSE can also be monetized, right?
Possible, yes.
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Possible, yes.
It should be monetized then, the ads still show up. Why not gain an income out of it until the smf-search is re-enabled(?).
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Out of curiosity, does clicking on ad's generate automatic in-come for Argonath or do we need to do certain things on the advert's website? :rolleyes:
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Out of curiosity, does clicking on ad's generate automatic in-come for Argonath or do we need to do certain things on the advert's website? :rolleyes:
Click = $$, as far as I know. I think more interaction with the website equals to more money, not sure though.
But by the looks of things, there's no income from the Search Engine right now, since AdSense hasn't been enabled for the CSE yet.
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since AdSense hasn't been enabled for the CSE yet.
What are they waiting for? Enable that shit and I'll click ad's all day. :D
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What are they waiting for? Enable that shit and I'll click ad's all day. :D
We do make money from the ads, but clicking them all day will get us blocked from making money instead of making more.
Main thing is to allow the ads to display and if you see smething that does interest you then click and visit the site.
Constantly clicking will be removed from earnings, and if the bad click count is too high they simply block the account, mening we have to find other less earning networks.
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We do make money from the ads, but clicking them all day will get us blocked from making money instead of making more.
Main thing is to allow the ads to display and if you see smething that does interest you then click and visit the site.
Constantly clicking will be removed from earnings, and if the bad click count is too high they simply block the account, mening we have to find other less earning networks.
Oh damn, won't be doing that then. :rage:
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Oh damn, won't be doing that then. :rage:
One click a day keeps the bans away.
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(http://www.searchinfluence.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/DoNotPushButtonImage.gif)
Temptations
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We do make money from the ads,
Even in the Custom Search Engine?
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Sadly, enabling the default search of SMF will keep crashing the forums. I had quite an extended chat with Gandalf about it, around a week or two ago. And because of the scale of our forums, SMF just can't handle the pressure and fails, crashing the whole forums in mean-while.
Gandalf and I were both thinking about enabling a google search, like is enabled right now but more forum based, there's a few packages for that, but due to the holidays and personal items we haven't been able to do such yet.
I'll do my best to see if I can also enable it so it'll actually search private boards if you have the access to do so, but I doubt it's possible (sadface).
I'll keep you guys updated. And a thanks to Trane and Devin from my side too for the temp solution.
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Sadly, enabling the default search of SMF will keep crashing the forums. I had quite an extended chat with Gandalf about it, around a week or two ago. And because of the scale of our forums, SMF just can't handle the pressure and fails, crashing the whole forums in mean-while.
Gandalf and I were both thinking about enabling a google search, like is enabled right now but more forum based, there's a few packages for that, but due to the holidays and personal items we haven't been able to do such yet.
I'll do my best to see if I can also enable it so it'll actually search private boards if you have the access to do so, but I doubt it's possible (sadface).
I'll keep you guys updated. And a thanks to Trane and Devin from my side too for the temp solution.
The problem is that Google does not discriminate. It is possible to let the Google search operate as a forum user, and it will display all topis that user can see. But to search topics on for instance admin level would make them visible to other users, not exactly what we wish to happen.
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The problem is that Google does not discriminate. It is possible to let the Google search operate as a forum user, and it will display all topis that user can see. But to search topics on for instance admin level would make them visible to other users, not exactly what we wish to happen.
What I understand from this post is you think we can see admin board? I've tried the google feature and when I tried to go on a 2008 topic it gave me the message 'This is off limits to you' so rest assured admin board wont be revealed.
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What I understand from this post is you think we can see admin board? I've tried the google feature and when I tried to go on a 2008 topic it gave me the message 'This is off limits to you' so rest assured admin board wont be revealed.
If we would let's say give Google search Axminster access. It'll show you all topics created in all admin boards. You can't access the topics but can still see the title and a small portion of the topic, which we don't want.
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Sadly, enabling the default search of SMF will keep crashing the forums.
So that's why the forum just went down? :mad:
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@Gandalf
Can't we just go back to our old forum back in 2008/2009? We don't need these flashy features a forum is simply designed for typing and posting videos and photos. AFAIK, Search function worked perfectly before this current forum design.
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It's not because of the forum design otherwise we wouldve changed it already..
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So that's why the forum just went down? :mad:
No the forum itself and occasionally the host just need a break now and then and are down for a few minutes.
The thing that crashed us previously as the smf search which has been hard disabled.
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Actually, i was looking at Aragorn's profile, i went to his posts and it winded up crashing the forum. 3 times. You might wanna look into that. The forum slows down and/or crashes when you click on your stats/posts on your or someone else's profile.
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Actually, i was looking at Aragorn's profile, i went to his posts and it winded up crashing the forum. 3 times. You might wanna look into that. The forum slows down and/or crashes when you click on your stats/posts on your or someone else's profile.
This is just local it doesn't crash the forums for everyone. I've noticed this too when doing forum maintenance but sadly there's nothing I can do with the access I currently have as it's probably an issue with the Base or just the size of the forums
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Sadly, enabling the default search of SMF will keep crashing the forums. I had quite an extended chat with Gandalf about it, around a week or two ago. And because of the scale of our forums, SMF just can't handle the pressure and fails, crashing the whole forums in mean-while.
That just does not make any sense. There are tons of SMF-based forums across the internet MUCH larger than Argo's that have no problem with search functions on lower-end hosting machines. (Some are even using shared hosting services). This has to be something internally broken, either in the database, the files, the settings, or some sort of mixture thereof.
Why isn't the actual issue at hand being dealt with directly? If it can't be fixed, wouldn't it make more sense to salvage what is possible and reinstall with a new database, importing the non-broken data or transfer it over? This new search function is only bypassing the actual issue that still exists, and could very well affect other portions of the forum that have yet to be discovered.
http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Large_forums
Three out of the top five largest known forums using SMF have the native search function not only running, but working. Only one has opted to use a custom Google Search, (of which may be for website integration), and only one has it completely disabled, (although that is only tested from a Guest view, and may be available to logged in users).
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It's not because of the forum design otherwise we wouldve changed it already..
Then why was the search function working properly pre-the new forum design? My theory is that minimizing the features in the forum will give extra resources for the search function to work. I may be talking gibberish since I have no clue about coding, I'm just thinking from a logical point of view.
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Then why was the search function working properly pre-the new forum design? My theory is that minimizing the features in the forum will give extra resources for the search function to work. I may be talking gibberish since I have no clue about coding, I'm just thinking from a logical point of view.
He already told you it has nothing to do with it, it makes no sense as they are two things completely different, search issues are not related to design of the forum. I'm of the idea that it is a database issue but as i'm not a Webmaster nor a wizard i will let who is aware of the problems describe the situation.
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The forum slows down/crashes every time you look up someone's posts, and it did the same with searching. Maybe there's a problem in retrieving data?
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The forum slows down/crashes every time you look up someone's posts, and it did the same with searching. Maybe there's a problem in retrieving data?
That could be possible. The forum has been modded so many times over the years that there could be things still hidden in the database that it is trying to pull up which are no longer relevant or used.
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He already told you it has nothing to do with it, it makes no sense as they are two things completely different, search issues are not related to design of the forum. I'm of the idea that it is a database issue but as i'm not a Webmaster nor a wizard i will let who is aware of the problems describe the situation.
Clearly it has something to do with it since it worked perfectly before this forum update but I think SugarD answered my question
The forum has been modded so many times over the years that there could be things still hidden in the database that it is trying to pull up which are no longer relevant or used.
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As I previously stated, I do not have the access to look deep in to the forum code and find any issues. After browsing through the interwebz, and talking to Gandalf it was quite clear that a large amount of other forums also have issues with the forums crashing during a search being made. I will run a maintenance over the forums tomorrow when I wake up, But looking in to the database/ code properly is up to Gandalf or Teddy as they're the only one with proper access to such files.
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Actually, i was looking at Aragorn's profile, i went to his posts and it winded up crashing the forum. 3 times. You might wanna look into that. The forum slows down and/or crashes when you click on your stats/posts on your or someone else's profile.
Actually, any attempt of viewing any old topic crashes the forum.
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After browsing through the interwebz, and talking to Gandalf it was quite clear that a large amount of other forums also have issues with the forums crashing during a search being made.
Where did you find this information from? If it was large forums affected, (as previously thought was what was intended by earlier statements), then it has already been proven not to be correct. Now if you mean a large number of forums are experiencing search-related crashes across the internet, that still would not make sense, else SMF itself would be responsible and would have already acknowledged and made known the problem already. I don't see a large number of topics in their support boards about this, nor any announcements regarding such.
As for the resources being reached, SMF typically displays a blank white page when it exceeds its memory limits, (or in some cases simply times out the page's connection). Sometimes PHP will also display this problem, but only if the PHP error messages are enabled. A complete and total crash has to be something far beyond a simple memory limit problem.