Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Dylan on March 09, 2016, 06:54:46 pm
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It's time we get this straight as I & others are done watching players seeking for reasons to avoid a roleplay or moaning when they get killed after a roleplay because they didnt want to comply with the roleplay.
Argonath does not have rules about powergaming or metagaming, I dont want those rules either - but does this mean we all can start roleplaying having doors that are made by "heavy metal" that are protected against RPG's and stuff so we can avoid a roleplay? Does this mean we can ignore everyone trying to make a nice roleplay? Does this mean we can shoot straight away because we dont want to roleplay? Does this mean we can ruin others roleplays?
Peope are shitting on other groups that they're never roleplaying, but when I see the group roleplaying people are not giving them a chance to roleplay because they start moaning, calling backup in PM's or somewhere else. And then I'm not talking about those who are saying others never roleplay while they dont roleplay either.
My question is,
when are we going to roleplay and stop bad girling whenever you die because the roleplay ended in that way?
When are we going to have a roleplay without shooting any guns?
When are we going to roleplay instead of finding excuses to avoid a roleplay?
Don't turn this topic in groups / players vs others, let's find a solution how to get this solved because most of us are really done with this.
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It's time we get this straight as I & others are done watching players seeking for reasons to avoid a roleplay or moaning when they get killed after a roleplay because they didnt want to comply with the roleplay.
Argonath does not have rules about powergaming or metagaming, I dont want those rules either - but does this mean we all can start roleplaying having doors that are made by "heavy metal" that are protected against RPG's and stuff so we can avoid a roleplay? Does this mean we can ignore everyone trying to make a nice roleplay? Does this mean we can shoot straight away because we dont want to roleplay? Does this mean we can ruin others roleplays?
Peope are shitting on other groups that they're never roleplaying, but when I see the group roleplaying people are not giving them a chance to roleplay because they start moaning, calling backup in PM's or somewhere else. And then I'm not talking about those who are saying others never roleplay while they dont roleplay either.
My question is, when are we going to roleplay and stop bad girling whenever you die because the roleplay ended in that way?
When are we going to have a roleplay without shooting any guns?
Don't turn this topic in groups / players vs others, let's find a solution how to get this solved because most of us are really done with this.
Thats very interesting, i remember of a recent situation from which the information arrived to me, of 'smart' people who are aware of the "avoiding RP rule not beeing allowed" yet they lock themselves in their properties and start moaning. This is not only a bad example of "roleplaying" that i will probably have to follow regard the same roleplayers but it is also a good evading technique from the basic rule of "avoiding RP".
I strongly believe that this impenetrable doors have to be reworked.
(this kind of "roleplayers" will always decide to take their helicopters permanently to avoid RP in case of changes regard the impenetrable doors, but thats another subject to be discussed)
But in general i agree that a change certainly has to be done.
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I think people should learn a difference between having quality roleplay and "omg this is not a strict rp server I dont have to x and y!!!!"
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It's just the people who always want to win.
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Robber says: Hey fool, pass up your wallet real quick.
Victim looks over his shoulder and notices the man.
Victim turns around.
Robber lowkey aims the Ruger at Victims's face.
Robber says: I said, your wallet, fool.
Victim says: Pardon me, what was that?
Victim says: I don't think I can help you with that, sorry.
Victim turns around and continues pushing the bike.
Robber says: Any last words?
Victim says: Well, please turn my microwave off.
Victim smiles.
Robber puts two in Victims's head.
Robber shot Victim once, Victim returned fire after being shot in the head.
The victim who shot back then reported the robber for poor RP to dm whilst they did nothing to actually roleplay with the robber.
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It's just the people who always want to win.
Sometimes people have to face it. If thats how a roleplay ends, then sure - why not? So long a roleplay happened.
Ofcourse not everything should end up like this, but if there's a good reason for it; sure.
I love Argonath because it doesn't have all the OOC/IC/PG/MG rules and everything connected with it.
And because you are still free to do whatever you want.
But when it comes to roleplays, people should join the roleplay.
If it really goes like this then I'd prefer removing those who dont want to roleplay, are finding excuses to avoid a roleplay or whever from the server.
Better having 20 players that roleplay than 40 while 20 are only there to shoot, driving around doing shit or finding excuses not to roleplay.
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Sometimes people have to face it. If thats how a roleplay ends, then sure - why not?
I love Argonath because it doesn't have all the OOC/IC/PG/MG rules and everything connected with it. Because you are still free to do whatever you want.
But when it comes to roleplays, people should join the roleplay.
If it really goes like this then I'd prefer removing those who dont want to roleplay, are finding excuses to avoid a roleplay or whever from the server.
Better having 20 players that roleplay than 40 while 20 are only there to shoot, driving around doing shit or finding excuses not to roleplay.
I know what example you are taking right now, and i totally agree with you in this point.
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I hope this topic doesn't end up being closed like many many others because we really need to solve the problems.
In my opinion, the player's logic is the main problem and let me explain why. Firstly, there is too much freedom and no one is giving a fuck about anything related to roleplay. The reason is pretty obvious since there must be implemented rules which would encourage players roleplay and guide them accordingly to ROLEPALY.. If HQ is not doing something about it I doubt something will change. Player's mentality is like this, if he does it and he doesn't get punished I can do it as well.
No, I'm not talking about turning this into a serious roleplay server because that would be lame. I'm up for turning it into a roleplay server, unique and suitable for "argo vision". What I recommend is either implementing the most suitable rules for both players and the HQ / staff team or either HQ to show up with ideas which fits into their requirements and listen to our voice. If all we do is sitting and complaining nothing will happen, we should act as a community and figure out solutions.
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I hope this topic doesn't end up being closed like many many others because we really need to solve the problems.
In my opinion, the player's logic is the main problem and let me explain why. Firstly, there is too much freedom and no one is giving a fuck about anything related to roleplay. The reason is pretty obvious since there must be implemented rules which would encourage players roleplay and guide them accordingly to ROLEPALY.. If HQ is not doing something about it I doubt something will change. Player's mentality is like this, if he does it and he doesn't get punished I can do it as well.
No, I'm not talking about turning this into a serious roleplay server because that would be lame. I'm up for turning it into a roleplay server, unique and suitable for "argo vision". What I recommend is either implementing the most suitable rules for both players and the HQ / staff team or either HQ to show up with ideas which fits into their requirements and listen to our voice. If all we do is sitting and complaining nothing will happen, we should act as a community and figure out solutions.
You sir, spoke the truth.
Of course this topic will get closed because people from different factions will come here and start pointing fingers like: no these guys don't RP, I RP, I'm creating a RP school etc.
You can change rules and scripts but you can't change everyone's minds. The key here is to try to "infect" them with the RP spirit and this can only come from the most well known pieces of this communities such as Group Leaders, Property owners etc. The solution is this and in cope with the administration that must surely punish people with foolish RP situations and poor ones to result in a DM fest. As JCS would say: lead by example.
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If HQ is not doing something about it I doubt something will change. Player's mentality is like this, if he does it and he doesn't get punished I can do it as well.
The sad part about this statement is that we could introduce all of the rules in the world to force roleplay but it comes down to the players to adhere to them or not. Sadly that mindset change is required to happen by the players not forcibly by HQ. Pushing them to roleplay won't do any good as you can see the responses by certain parties to blips being removed.
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Robber says: Hey fool, pass up your wallet real quick.
Victim looks over his shoulder and notices the man.
Victim turns around.
Robber lowkey aims the Ruger at Victims's face.
Robber says: I said, your wallet, fool.
Victim says: Pardon me, what was that?
Victim says: I don't think I can help you with that, sorry.
Victim turns around and continues pushing the bike.
Robber says: Any last words?
Victim says: Well, please turn my microwave off.
Victim smiles.
Robber puts two in Victims's head.
Robber shot Victim once, Victim returned fire after being shot in the head.
The victim who shot back then reported the robber for poor RP to dm whilst they did nothing to actually roleplay with the robber.
To much roleplay pal its like this
> Member of mafia comes online
> Member sees an enemy of the opposite mafia
> member calls friends online
> member and friends approch opposite mafia person
> guy from other mafia quickly runs into his house
> tabs out of game calls all other mafias around to come help
> player count goes from 20 to 40-50
> members get armed and go and help the guy in his house
> shoot em up happens as they approch
> alot of deaths happen some escape
> mafia with least amount of casualties claims to be winner
> other mafia begins flame war on mainchat
> flame war happens for around 10-15 minutes
> admin goes all serious
> all of the mafia members go offline minus the od 1 or 2 from either side
> repeat process
Thats Argonath... of-course the cops will chase the others till the either get killed/jailled/ or escape.
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The sad part about this statement is that we could introduce all of the rules in the world to force roleplay but it comes down to the players to adhere to them or not. Sadly that mindset change is required to happen by the players not forcibly by HQ. Pushing them to roleplay won't do any good as you can see the responses by certain parties to blips being removed.
Of course you can't change their mindset but implementing rules which would make them feel motivated to roleplay, while playing on a roleplay server, everything will come by itself. I've said it before and I still support it, blips would be a huge step towards the right path.
I strongly believe this would create more roleplay scenarios and opportunities and I doubt you or anyone else would regret after implementing it. We would all see people gathering up without having their police on their ass and awaiting for something to happen so they can start shooting everybody. I'm not speaking to anyone specific but just stating what I've faced during my six years here. We would all see a roleplay scene even around the corner, a drug deal on-going without having the fear you see someone on the f**cking minimap. We would all see realistic police chases. We would all see players willing to roleplay instead of freeroaming. This change wouldn't do any harm and and would drastically change the aspect of the server. If you listen to an old man which is using a pathethic excuse like this idea being a failure to MTA server 10 years ago, nothing will change. The same person who is insulting his own players whenever they're showing up by telling the truth, is not really a good example.
Whoever is not getting well with roleplaying can go fuck himself and play on paruni, I'd rather play with 10-15 players willing to roleplay instead of playing with 50 doing nothing.
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If you listen to an old man which is using a pathethic excuse like this idea being a failure to MTA server 10 years ago, nothing will change. The same person who is insulting his own players whenever they're showing up by telling the truth, is not really a good example.
In that case be glad I am not listening to his "plan" nor his response to suggestion of certain changes within the server. There will be change whether he likes it or not, I have nothing to lose.
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To much roleplay pal its like this
> Member of mafia comes online
> Member sees an enemy of the opposite mafia
> member calls friends online
> member and friends approch opposite mafia person
> guy from other mafia quickly runs into his house
> tabs out of game calls all other mafias around to come help
> player count goes from 20 to 40-50
> members get armed and go and help the guy in his house
> shoot em up happens as they approch
> alot of deaths happen some escape
> mafia with least amount of casualties claims to be winner
> other mafia begins flame war on mainchat
> flame war happens for around 10-15 minutes
> admin goes all serious
> all of the mafia members go offline minus the od 1 or 2 from either side
> repeat process
Thats Argonath... of-course the cops will chase the others till the either get killed/jailled/ or escape.
Reminds me of an actual situation...
> Me and the fellow terrorists go hunting for a certain leader of an enemy group.
> That player is in a plane flying when he spots our convoy.
> He goes AFK for 5 minutes in the sky, meanwhile all his fellow group members and allies start logging on.
> He gets back and continues flying to Los Santos where he crash lands next to his buddies cars before getting in and driving off.
> Not long after the certain player and his group/ally buddies come back, ramming the fuck out of our cars without a single word.
> We get out, expecting atleast a verbal confrontation before the shootout starts.
> The person we were chasing decides "Sak it" is enough and him and his buddies start a gigantic shootout.
> Many are left dead (mainly my group) and a moaning argument starts on /p.
> 2 players end up being warned for constant b!tching.
What was achieved other than the 'fun' that you're meant to have in a game being ruined? :rolleyes:
And don't get me started on them imaginary cameras!
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-random bs-
This reminds me of how I used to evade a traffic stop then the officer calls whole SWAT squad online...
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My question is,
when are we going to roleplay and stop bad girling whenever you die because the roleplay ended in that way?
When are we going to have a roleplay without shooting any guns?
When are we going to roleplay instead of finding excuses to avoid a roleplay?
1. Not sure
2. Make guns harder to get/more expensive.
3. Enforce roleplay in a more strict way(as an admin)
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There will be roleplay when someone has the sense of really loosing something, They will just respawn, they are not afraid for what could happen.
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PG/MG and OOC/IC should be implemented, give it a try I guess?
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There will be roleplay when someone has the sense of really loosing something, They will just respawn, they are not afraid for what could happen.
This is a valid point, imo. Maybe we can go back to "lose items on death" system?
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This is a valid point, imo. Maybe we can go back to "lose items on death" system?
Loose money on hand, loose weed, loose items etc, then they won't kamikaze into a RP anymore.
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Interesting topic.
Question: Is the guy entering a heli, plane, house, boat or whatever to save himself because he knows he's being hunted by group of people avoiding death(DM) or avoiding roleplay ?
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Loose money on hand, loose weed, loose items etc, then they won't kamikaze into a RP anymore.
Stock your shit in house containers and problem solved.
not going to help anyway.
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When are we going to have a roleplay without shooting any guns?
As I can see you guys turned this topic into " ArgonathRPG Mafias DM ".
The quoted question has little to no sense. First of all go check Gvardia, Soprano, Luciano, Araatus etc topics and see the pictures posted from the RPs. You don't see a dead body or M4/AK on every god damn picture there is. Roleplays without shooting guns happens daily, but you fail to see that because only thing you do is chase us when we are suspected ( I don't blame you for that ).
As for the Victim/Robber thing Devin posted, just make some harder metod of registering to the server and make a tutorial for every new registered player and you won't get retarded Victims like that in the server.
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Some people like to act like John Cena and fear none, where players who are obsessed roleplay actually pay attention to the people who are trying to get something done.
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As I can see you guys turned this topic into " ArgonathRPG Mafias DM ".
The quoted question has little to no sense. First of all go check Gvardia, Soprano, Luciano, Araatus etc topics and see the pictures posted from the RPs. You don't see a dead body or M4/AK on every god damn picture there is. Roleplays without shooting guns happens daily, but you fail to see that because only thing you do is chase us when we are suspected ( I don't blame you for that ).
As for the Victim/Robber thing Devin posted, just make some harder metod of registering to the server and make a tutorial for every new registered player and you won't get retarded Victims like that in the server.
I'm barely to never on police duty anyway.
All I do is spectating people so yes I see what's going on.
The screens that are posted is mostly 1 - 5% from what's exactly happening or what exactly happened.
But yes, I must say that there is sometimes a good roleplay between two groups but it mostly ends up in a shootout.
Making weapons expensive wont solve anything. The victims will bitch even more.
The server HQ dont have to change anything. It's the players that have to change it.
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As for the Victim/Robber thing Devin posted, just make some harder metod of registering to the server and make a tutorial for every new registered player and you won't get retarded Victims like that in the server.
The robber was a new player and the victim was one from 2014 sadly...
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As for the Victim/Robber thing Devin posted, just make some harder metod of registering to the server and make a tutorial for every new registered player and you won't get retarded Victims like that in the server.
That won't happen, because according to an ex-manager, experienced players are responsible for the rulebreaks committed by new players, as we have a "duty" to teach them. Sure, I don't mind teaching new players, but it's kind of annoying when a player has no idea what this server is for when they first join (despite the fact that the server is clearly labelled Argonath RPG...)
As for the problem at hand, it's always going to be a problem if there is no clear distinction of things that happen inside of roleplay and outside of roleplay. Sure - you can go ahead and accuse me of being one of those people that wants to turn Argonath into "ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE SRS RP SERVERS" (I'm really not lol), but there's no denying it. People take events in roleplays, such as group relations, way too personally. There are people who simply have far too much pride to allow an RP to happen with an enemy in which they are the victim. And it's kind of sad, because it really disrupts how the natural flow of RP and events should go. In my time there were people (enemies, mind you) who would simply /area my group and /q if we got anywhere near them. And there are other people who always take it soooo personally when they get kidnapped for example and are faced with a situation that they don't have much control over, then act towards the RP with a shitty attitude. And let's not forget, that in RP, nobody values their character's lives, because their is more pride to be lost by submitting to the enemy than running away from the RP opportunity and getting killed.
Aside from that, I blame the freedom we are given here, and the 'cliques' developed over time. Some type of RP rules need to be implemented and enforced, because as I've seen over the years player attitudes are not going to change, no matter how much Dylan or Devin or Gandalf wants them to. The attitude has been the same for years now. I don't know what kind of rules or how they would be enforced, but something needs to be changed. More focused is placed in personal pride, vendettas, and shooting for the sport of it than the development of characters/personalities and stories through roleplay. And in my entire time of being here I've grown pretty sick of these whole back-and-forth type wars that go on between criminal groups. "I'm attacking them because they attacked me because I attacked them because I attacked me." Oh, we need an rp excuse now?
*Rolls up on enemy.*
"Sup?"
Enemy: "I fucked your mom" *PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW*
The freedom we have been granted here is the very thing that has become toxic to the server due to player's attitudes, and the problem has never, ever gotten any better even for a little while, except maybe when the server has a lower player count. Who would've thought that the freedom Argonath has stood for throughout the ages would be the thing that tore us apart in the end? I say, either we appreciate the freedom we're given here and have fun with it while allowing others to have fun, or we start losing it. Because clearly the lot of us can't handle our freedom.
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The robber was a new player and the victim was one from 2014 sadly...
:lol: The irony
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This reminds me of how I used to evade a traffic stop then the officer calls whole SWAT squad online...
Its you Richard Mr aimbot hacker from Paruni :lol: :lol:
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This reminds me of how I used to evade a traffic stop then the officer calls whole SWAT squad online...
Yeah, this is an example of why I barely play here anymore.
And another problem is the so called "freedom" here. Most experienced SAMP-players joins Argonath because they know how easily it is to obtain weapons and start shooting people.
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The robber was a new player and the victim was one from 2014 sadly...
wow. Really sad.
The screens that are posted is mostly 1 - 5% from what's exactly happening or what exactly happened.
But yes, I must say that there is sometimes a good roleplay between two groups but it mostly ends up in a shootout.
What do you expect from two enemy groups to do? Hang out and drink tea? The game itself is made with guns and those guns are to be used by everyone that plays this game. It would make sanse if you moan about shooting in SIMS, but in GTA it's kinda senseless. About good roleplay between two groups, it's more than obvious that you only spectate players when they interact their 'enemy' group, have you ever seen two groups that share same thoughts and how that looks like ?
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Missed the part where Devin said this mindset change must happen from players side, not forcibly from HQ. My wisdom says that's not going to happen in the near-future. Maybe with HQ positive reinforcement it's a possibility?
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What do you expect from two enemy groups to do? Hang out and drink tea? The game itself is made with guns and those guns are to be used by everyone that plays this game. It would make sanse if you moan about shooting in SIMS, but in GTA it's kinda senseless. About good roleplay between two groups, it's more than obvious that you only spectate players when they interact their 'enemy' group, have you ever seen two groups that share same thoughts and how that looks like ?
Never said they should drink tea. Sometimes a shootout isnt needed, sometimes fighting with fists will do aswell. But both groups want to have their "honor" and win the shootout.
And no, I dont spectate only when there's a war. I spectate people randomly.
Roleplay doesnt always mean shooting.
Anyhow, I'm talking generally. It always end up the same.
An example that happens everyday is when one get pulled over for reckless driving, guess how it ends? In a shootout for a damn ticket. But hey, it's GTA right?
I agree with Leon., just no idea how to fix this.
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Hang out and drink tea?
Yes.
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I've said it before and I will say it again.
The new generation of players in all games has changed to something shameful, they were taught that the way to live your life is to win, they are applying the same thing in games. They are here to win and not to have fun and create memories to talk about in the future. Unfortunately this won't change at all, the more you remove these people the more the worst of them come which leads the server to the ground.
I'd say just make the server only accessible for certain ages or just leave it like that till somehow they learn few manners in their lives..
All good things sadly never last but we can create more to enjoy.
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I'd say just make the server only accessible for certain ages or just leave it like that till somehow they learn few manners in their lives..
If only it was that simple, sadly the owner is against blips being removed, there's no way in hell he would allow anything else that has the same goal.
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If only it was that simple, sadly the owner is against blips being removed, there's no way in hell he would allow anything else that has the same goal.
What happened to the idea of creating a parallel server based on hardcore RP?
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Loose money on hand, loose weed, loose items etc, then they won't kamikaze into a RP anymore.
This. Probably people will start caring about their things so they will think twice before pulling the trigger. I really believe this would help as we have had this feature before.
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Anyhow, I'm talking generally. It always end up the same.
An example that happens everyday is when one get pulled over for reckless driving, guess how it ends? In a shootout for a damn ticket. But hey, it's GTA right?
Back in the day police used to pull me over just to antagonize me, and when /frisk was around would /frisk me without probable cause (and always find nothing). These days, when I pull over for police, we have a good short chat and they let me go off with a warning for not leaving them in the dust :lol: vroom vroom, motherfuckers. I don't remember the last time I actually had to pay a ticket, because usually after the warning I'm more careful to slow down when I see a cop.
I think criminal groups should find more creative ways to interact with/antagonize each other. Fill up 3 cars and roll up on their spot and do a driveby in their general direction without killing them? No, that would cause the other group to call their friends on later or the next day and start a DM fest... would also be interpreted as DM in itself.
When an enemy is kidnapped and killed there wouldn't be a way for the enemy group to know outside of what the dead person tells them via /cb, right? I think that's really lame. Leon the fictional character has been in this shit for a while, he knows how to dispose of an individual so that nobody would know what happened, except for the fact that the victim has suddenly disappeared. But it'd be a different story if I decided to leave a severed head at the enemy's HQ, heh heh.
Sometimes I find a good sport from the enemy side who is willing to comply with my roleplay if they are victim. I offer to hold their guns if they are to die as a courtesy for a good roleplay; other times I will offer a ride from the hospital after the conclusion of the RP. I always watch out for those who provide a good roleplay and thank them. And as far as when I'm the victim, well if I can run I will most definitely try given my status - yet within reason! I.e. when I'm suddenly surrounded with guns being pointed at me, I sure as hell wouldn't try to run, and I would be cooperative inside and outside of roleplay. But when they disable my car, I don't keep running on foot to get myself killed to avoid roleplay - I throw my hands up in the air. Always trying to be a good sport & a good example for everybody. After all, what's the point of RPing if everyone gets all srsbsns and has no fun whatsoever? Some groups here are unwilling to be civil (let alone friendly) with the enemy group outside of roleplay, for WHATEVER dumb reason. I mean it's not like I literally pissed in your cereal this morning. Pride can be an ugly thing at times.
But there was a time in my own history where I would get pretty butthurt over RP events, bad girling in /P chat, "DMER," so on and so forth. I was younger, though. Maybe that explains a little bit of what's going on here. Khm touches on that subject very well.
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Probably when they stop bitching on the forums and get in-game. We should just turn the forums off.
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I can remember some time ago i was just randomly driving around, then i stopped by GS9 to fuel. 3 Gvardias (who were training a new player, i suppose), stopped me and immediatly drawn guns. I cooperated with the roleplay, they took everything i could give to them and they have decided to kill me (as i have seen their faces, and i could just give them to the police). Right after everything, i sent a PM to them complying then for actually grabbing me out of my boredom and how it was a petty fun situation and how i got a good impression all out of this.
They told me they'd sure make it longer if the area didn't crowded up with cops who'd just ignore the concept and think i was being kidnapped, or something, lol. My point relating this is: if you're ingame, you accept an imaginary contract, where it says clearly that if you're actually playing the game, you're there to roleplay, and you gotta know ANYTHING may happen to you.
If you walk out in the rain, you're there to wet yourself.
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Let's not focus on the bad things too much. Let's encourage and point out the good when we see it, and not just in a way to boost our friends or our own selves.
This is probably my favorite thing that you've ever said in the entire time I've known you here. And looking at our forum join dates, it's been a loooong ride.
Shout out to those who have always looked out for the sake of RP, and those whom praise others that do the same. Even bigger shout out to those who never take events that happen in RP personally. And thanks to those who say "thanks for the roleplay :)" and actually mean it even when they get their asses steamrolled in a shootout, regardless of why the shootout happened.
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Failed attempt at promoting a dead server.
No one cares about what you do in Paruni, for the most part you have cheating staff and ban innocents for hacks or ban people for questioning your opinion or saying something that you don't like. If we had discussions like these on Paruni forums most of the people here on the other side of your opinion would be bannned.
On topic, unless you people quit the damn play to win mentality then we would never go anywhere.
And actually take RP fucking seriously, if you assume a role stay within the parimeters of the role. If people would stop keep pulling random illogical shit out of their asses in role play that would be great. Its not hard, but for some reason we seem to not understand how logic works.
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I felt like responding with "wow, everyone's a critic". But I didn't because it'd of just have brought about negativity in return. Instead I decided to just leave the server and play some Parallel Universe SAMP (http://paruni.net/index.php?action=collapse;c=9;sa=collapse;c70638e12=f2ee7ab7de58a2eda4d620c2b42981bc#c9) instead.
I feel that if we allow such responses being seen (those of negative nature), there is no hope.
Peoples constant negativity and hopelessness is a serious issue. It's indeed one reason why it's completely banned unless done in a structured meeting in Parallel Universe Community (http://paruni.net/index.php). I would urge this community to continue to promote positivism and embrace the values of acceptance, tolerance and understanding.
Whilst that is some nice advertising tactic for Paruni, we have no reason to just go and ban someone for sharing their opinion, whether it is good or bad. Whilst we allow a sense of "freedom of speech" there is a line and those that cross the threshold will soon find out what happens. Sure negative behaviour leads to more negative attitudes and mindsets of players however we are not going to be ignorant enough to deny people the right to share what is not pleasing them. We all know there are problems within the community.
We aren't going to be ignorant and ban or remove people for being upset or venting their frustrations, that's idiotic and childish. The only real way to address the negative mindset and behaviour is to address the cause of it, not to simply remove those that are being negative.
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The biggest reason I do no play is my private life, other than that I do not feel the 'fun' when there's no drug script yet today. Group wise, that's the kind of gang I want and it turns out rather one sided when you kinda await the script whilst you attempt to keep busy doing random things with mostly muppets unwilling to roleplay. The change (other topic) will do lots of good.
Last group we had up and running was Lakewood, that was nearly a year ago and it was pure bliss until it turned boring because we had not much to do in the city. Even then the rumors about the drug script were taking place and it was considered a release short after we opened up. Turned out to be a year of waiting. Sure, you can do some lame weed/heroin deals like 2008, but that sucks and going totally out of script-creative is also getting boring to me. I know the new drug system is on its way up now though and I look forward to see how it turns out.
But hey, I will try to be as active as possible. You guys are doing much good right now. I truly admire y'all.
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The biggest reason I do no play is my private life, other than that I do not feel the 'fun' when there's no drug script yet today. Group wise, that's the kind of gang I want and it turns out rather one sided when you kinda await the script whilst you attempt to keep busy doing random things with mostly muppets unwilling to roleplay. The change (other topic) will do lots of good.
Last group we had up and running was Lakewood, that was nearly a year ago and it was pure bliss until it turned boring because we had not much to do in the city. Even then the rumors about the drug script were taking place and it was considered a release short after we opened up. Turned out to be a year of waiting. Sure, you can do some lame weed/heroin deals like 2008, but that sucks and going totally out of script-creative is also getting boring to me. I know the new drug system is on its way up now though and I look forward to see how it turns out.
But hey, I will try to be as active as possible. You guys are doing much good right now. I truly admire y'all.
Quit the bullshit we all know you're going to come for a few weeks and then disappear for another three months or so. And don't blame this on the drug script cause currently the drug system is fine, the prices may not be the best on the market and maybe not everyone has access to the scripted market but the player to player trading is working quite well.
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Quit the bullshit we all know you're going to come for a few weeks and then disappear for another three months or so. And don't blame this on the drug script cause currently the drug system is fine, the prices may not be the best on the market and maybe not everyone has access to the scripted market but the player to player trading is working quite well.
Hold your goddamn horses. Why do you care if he goes inactive for whatever time period? He provided he reasoning of going inactive which includes his private life and how boring it got a few months ago. It wasn't just him who decided to go inactive, there were tons of others. You literally have no say in whatever decisions he takes, so calm the heck down.
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And don't blame this on the drug script cause currently the drug system is fine.
With most weed spots bugged, I highly doubt it is.
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Hold your goddamn horses. Why do you care if he goes inactive for whatever time period? He provided he reasoning of going inactive which includes his private life and how boring it got a few months ago. It wasn't just him who decided to go inactive, there were tons of others. You literally have no say in whatever decisions he takes, so calm the heck down.
I don't give a fuck what he does, I'm just fucking sick of him in particular coming for a few and masquerading as the Prince of Fucking RP and acting that he cares so fucking much about Argonath and getting a couple players caught up in his hype and then he disappears again for so fucking long. Its not just me who see's him for the attention whore that he is but I'm the person who calls it as it is. Its not the first time I've said it and it wouldnt be the last.
With most weed spots bugged, I highly doubt it is.
With players able to be growing 10kg a week, I highly think it is fine.
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I don't give a fuck what he does, I'm just f**cking sick of him in particular coming for a few and masquerading as the Prince of f**cking RP and acting that he cares so f**cking much about Argonath and getting a couple players caught up in his hype and then he disappears again for so f**cking long. Its not just me who see's him for the attention whore that he is but I'm the person who calls it as it is. Its not the first time I've said it and it wouldnt be the last.
With players able to be growing 10kg a week, I highly think it is fine.
Seems like you still behave as properly as you usually do. And when you're at it, I don't really care much about you or your opinion regarding me, my friends or anything related to my short active sprees. You're not someone to be remembered more than during the day because of your pretty immature way of expressing yourself.
If you somewhat get some sort of life when you grow older, you probably understand that playing videogames and doing gangs or stay active on a gaming community and also a game which is more than ten years old is quite low on your priority list compared to your companies, family and personal development.
So, I'm sorry for not being around much anymore but this will never be high ranked on a tight schedule. And the post was all about giving my opinion, which you turned out to a personal assault battle.
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Seems like you still behave as properly as you usually do. And when you're at it, I don't really care much about you or your opinion regarding me, my friends or anything related to my short active sprees. You're not someone to be remembered more than during the day because of your pretty immature way of expressing yourself.
If you somewhat get some sort of life when you grow older, you probably understand that playing videogames and doing gangs or stay active on a gaming community and also a game which is more than ten years old is quite low on your priority list compared to your companies, family and personal development.
So, I'm sorry for not being around much anymore but this will never be high ranked on a tight schedule. And the post was all about giving my opinion, which you turned out to a personal assault battle.
Grow up this isnt a popularity contest niether is it a personal assault since I couldnt give two shits about you anyways. And my life outside of Argonath is quite fantastic might I add, you may not know this cause I don't come to this forum and post fancy videos of "vacations" like you do in attempts to attention whore. Lets be honest if being here will never be a priority on your "tight schedule" then your opinion shouldnt matter.
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Seems like you're one positive hell of a guy, so I highly recommend you not spending your fantastic life time arguing with an ego cocksucker like me about things you claim not caring about. I'm pretty sure the community needs you in other, more important tasks.
And you know, after several years of being around I do have friends who still means something and I am interested in their progress, while I'm pretty sure they are interested in mine, which is one of the reasons I stay. If you think posting a semester video with my girlfriend is so damn rough and arrogrant for your taste, do not click on it and be ready for that one post every each month section on the forum to your own satisfaction. Very simple.
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And I was wondering when will this topic get derailed.
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Robber says: Hey fool, pass up your wallet real quick.
Victim looks over his shoulder and notices the man.
Victim turns around.
Robber lowkey aims the Ruger at Victims's face.
Robber says: I said, your wallet, fool.
Victim says: Pardon me, what was that?
Victim says: I don't think I can help you with that, sorry.
Victim turns around and continues pushing the bike.
Robber says: Any last words?
Victim says: Well, please turn my microwave off.
Victim smiles.
Robber puts two in Victims's head.
Robber shot Victim once, Victim returned fire after being shot in the head.
The victim who shot back then reported the robber for poor RP to dm whilst they did nothing to actually roleplay with the robber.