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Argonath RPG Community => Hardware/Software support => Resolved issues => Topic started by: Mark on March 13, 2016, 05:52:53 pm
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Hello, i have just upgraded to Windows 10 with a "clean" install, i'm still setting up everything so i would like to hear your opinion about Windows 10 antivirus, i know Windows Defender is already doing a good job (i hope :lol:) but i was wondering if it's worth it to install an antivirus like Kaspersky. I used to have Kasperky Internet Security on my previous OS (Windows 7) and it never gave me any headache, it was pretty lighty i must say (compared to other antiviruses).
Anyway let's get to the point!, do you suggest to install an Antivirus? Please spend some time writing why if you want to help me out :D
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I used to, I never install antivirus nowadays. Windows 10 has its own antivirus stuff like bitdefender. If I suspect I might have some bad stuff on my pc I just give it a scan with malwarebytes.
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Unless you are an idiot who clicks on every "You won an iPhone!" ad, you don't need one nowadays. Haven't used an anti-virus since Windows 8 was released. Not using any on Windows 10 either. As long as you download stuff from trusted sources and don't go to dodgy sites, you're okay. I would advice getting some sort of protection if you do any online banking tho.
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I rely on Bitfender & AdBlockPlus, realtime anti-virus mode, does the job good.
@Rytuklis That's wrong on many levels.. :rofl: :rofl: You have many chances of getting CryptoWall that way
Since I have a lot of clients who want to back-up their files before format, and I'm forced to use USB Sticks or External HDDs, it's necessary to scan things..
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I rely on Bitfender & AdBlockPlus, realtime anti-virus mode, does the job good.
@Rytuklis That's wrong on many levels.. :rofl: :rofl: You have many chances of getting CryptoWall that way
I don't have Java on my computer, neither do I have Flash, as neither of those are needed anymore. I am not really afraid of viruses. I have two partitions, a Windows one and a data one. If my Windows partition gets infected, I can always just reinstall it and keep my data :)
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I used to, I never install antivirus nowadays. Windows 10 has its own antivirus stuff like bitdefender. If I suspect I might have some bad stuff on my pc I just give it a scan with malwarebytes.
Yeah, i noticed. I'm happy like this for now, looks like Windows Defender has got all what i need
Unless you are an idiot who clicks on every "You won an iPhone!" ad, you don't need one nowadays. Haven't used an anti-virus since Windows 8 was released. Not using any on Windows 10 either. As long as you download stuff from trusted sources and don't go to dodgy sites, you're okay. I would advice getting some sort of protection if you do any online banking tho.
Adblock is already helping blocking those ugly websites with tons of ads! (Streaming websites looking at ya). But ye i'm not stupid to click on those. For online banking i could use some of those yeah.
Thanks guys.
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Windows 10 has anti-virus built-in, named Windows Defender. But it is known to be feeding Microsoft with information (telemetry and other data collection).
I personally use Avast, it does not hog up resources and only adds to the protection. I don't see any cons to using an anti-virus than taking any risks.
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I got common_sense2016.exe it's really good.
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I got common_sense2016.exe it's really good.
Was just asking an opinion but k as u wish
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WOT extension + uBlock Origin + MVPS Hosts file + common sense = best
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Does Adblocker work on Edge?
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Does Adblocker work on Edge?
https://adblockplus.org/en/edge
i haven't tried it though
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For me it's just a habit (Good one?) to install an anti virus on my PC. Currently using AVG as that's the first thing that comes to mind when installing one.
Windows 10 basically means you have no privacy but I managed to remove everything I can to stop Microsoft sending my data to them so I doubt Windows Defender will actually be efficient as I have tweaked so many options. Either way I mainly use Kodi and Microsoft Office on my laptop now a days so the chances of a virus is minimal.
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The only thing you need in Windows 10 is Malwarebytes and Adwcleaner. Both are free (Malwarebytes is trial but works fine) and do better job than most of these paid antiviruses. I once downloaded some dodgy files which installed this some sort of Chinese BS that pretended to be an antivirus. Couldn't remove it, couldn't end it's processes, it started fiddling with my admin privilleges. Installed Adwcleaner removed that on the first scan and then Malwarebytes located and blocked the rest of the remaining files. So as long as you use those, you're safe.
I suggest using Edge as well. It's not Internet Explorer as many believe, it's a completely new browser. It's really fast and convenient, and it provides maximum security since it uses intergrated Windows protection while you browse. If you really need that Adblocker, it's available on Edge now as well afaik.
Windows 10 basically means you have no privacy but I managed to remove everything I can to stop Microsoft sending my data to them so I doubt Windows Defender will actually be efficient as I have tweaked so many options. Either way I mainly use Kodi and Microsoft Office on my laptop now a days so the chances of a virus is minimal.
Tje entire thing with privacy is blown out of proportion. You have to understand that every single Windows version had means to track you and spy on you, the only thing is that Microsoft wasn't open about it. The only difference is that they openly state that they do collect your data in their EULA in Windows 10, and actually provides you options to disable it, something that wasn't present in earlier versions. I don't see what all the fuzz is about. You're tracked as long as you get onto the internet, even in Linux, since spying is no longer on local level. If you use Gmail, you're already subjected to a lot of spying from Google. They've been reviewing your e-mails quite openly for a while. And I mean, seriously, you (most likely, just as the majority of the people) put the most stupid shizzle about your life on Facebook, and you worry about Microsoft collecting data to fuel their ad services?
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Sometimes you may think you don't need a prophylactic.
But you may use one anyway just in-case.
It's totally reliant on what you want to achieve in the long run.
Nothing is risk free and if you wish to limit risk, you can choose to use an extra pair of hands.
If you want to risk it, then go ahead.
It's totally upto your own self.
If you are going to be very careful and know what you're doing then I suppose there may not be a need.
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Sometimes you may think you don't need a prophylactic.
But you may use one anyway just in-case.
It's totally reliant on what you want to achieve in the long run.
Nothing is risk free and if you wish to limit risk, you can choose to use an extra pair of hands.
If you want to risk it, then go ahead.
It's totally upto your own self.
If you are going to be very careful and know what you're doing then I suppose there may not be a need.
Those who need "a guiding hand" or an anti-virus to protect them from the "YOU WON AN IPHONE" pop ups should get a MAC. These things are designed for people who lack something called common sense when it comes on what to install and what not to.
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Those who need "a guiding hand" or an anti-virus to protect them from the "YOU WON AN IPHONE" pop ups should get a MAC. These things are designed for people who lack something called common sense when it comes on what to install and what not to.
Unfortunately common sense is not so common.
There is no harm in using a second party anti virus system.
To rely on windows alone is borderline silly as Windows is the epitome of malware.
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Sometimes you may think you don't need a prophylactic.
But you may use one anyway just in-case.
It's totally reliant on what you want to achieve in the long run.
Nothing is risk free and if you wish to limit risk, you can choose to use an extra pair of hands.
If you want to risk it, then go ahead.
It's totally upto your own self.
If you are going to be very careful and know what you're doing then I suppose there may not be a need.
:uhm:
Anyway i already installed uBlock Origin which works way better than Adblock plus, windows defender ain't that bad as i first thought. I know Adwcleaner and Malwarebytes already as i used them on Windows 7 a few times because of freeware shit :lol:
Google Chrome 64 bit is good too, i have noticed that on Windows 10 it works even better. Thanks everyone.
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I suggest using Edge as well. It's not Internet Explorer as many believe, it's a completely new browser. It's really fast and convenient, and it provides maximum security since it uses intergrated Windows protection while you browse. If you really need that Adblocker, it's available on Edge now as well afaik.
No. Edge is shit just like Internet Explorer. As a web professional, it lacks a lot of "modern web" capability and fails to compete with any other browsers JavaScript engine, meaning sites are naturally slower.
Please don't even get me started about maximum security. The level of security it provides compared to chrome can't even be measured on the same scale.
I would highly not recommend Edge.
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No. Edge is shit just like Internet Explorer. As a web professional, it lacks a lot of "modern web" capability and fails to compete with any other browsers JavaScript engine, meaning sites are naturally slower.
Please don't even get me started about maximum security. The level of security it provides compared to chrome can't even be measured on the same scale.
I would highly not recommend Edge.
Well you are comparing Edge unfairly, you can't compare a Volkswagen Golf to a Bugatti Veyron.
Edge is miles ahead of internet explored in speed, security, looks, it is actually a usable browser and for companies (one of which I had a unpleasant time working for) that mandatory use Internet Explorer will have a "culture shock" upgrading to Edge, seriously, compared to IE it's a billion times better.
Compared to Google chrome?
lol.
For a day to day user it makes no sense to use Edge over Chrome, for my mom? Bleh, she likes it, she can use it.
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Well you are comparing Edge unfairly, you can't compare a Volkswagen Golf to a Bugatti Veyron.
Edge is miles ahead of internet explored in speed, security, looks, it is actually a usable browser and for companies (one of which I had a unpleasant time working for) that mandatory use Internet Explorer will have a "culture shock" upgrading to Edge, seriously, compared to IE it's a billion times better.
Compared to Google chrome?
lol.
For a day to day user it makes no sense to use Edge over Chrome, for my mom? Bleh, she likes it, she can use it.
You can compare a Volkswagen Golf to a Bugatti Veyron, they're both motor vehicle transportation and they both have their perks and downfalls. You can't compare a fork to a Volkswagen Golf. They have entirely different purpose so in a logical sense comparing Internet Explorer to Edge and to Chrome is totally legitimate. That is of course assuming you are following the philosophical standard for debate and argument which you know would be logical.
You'd be surprised how many even novice users find comfort in Chrome's performance and security over Internet Explorer and Edge. Those novice users look to professionals for influence.
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Well, I am happy with Edge though. It's been working well for me and works far faster than Chrome for me without being as resource intensive. I find it weird that you guys have different expierences. The only disatisfaction for me with this browser is that you can't choose the file download destination, as it automatically downloads to the C drive Downloads folder, and I don't like bloating my C drive :S
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Well, I am happy with Edge though. It's been working well for me and works far faster than Chrome for me without being as resource intensive.
Doesn't mean it's not technically inferior compared to Chrome.
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Doesn't mean it's not technically inferior compared to Chrome.
Well so far I haven't seen any signs of technical inferiority, other than not supporting addons.
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Doesn't mean it's not technically inferior compared to Chrome.
Right, but the guy started the topic, it's not like he is wrong for using Edge
Well so far I haven't seen any signs of technical inferiority, other than not supporting addons.
I wish it gets addons soon, the firm I worked for last year is slowly transitioning away from Windows XP (yes, XP) to Windows 10 and thus far everyone has been running Internet Explorer to access the building's Intranet and the internet, the problem with Internet explorer is that it is basically unusable after you get used to Chrome, Edge at least has some functionality.
The browser is stable and usable, but that's as fat as it gets, like I said to Teddy (which backfired because it seems like he is riled up about this conversation) Edge is an okay browser but it is inferior in almost every aspect.. no, pretty much inferior everywhere, but it gets the job done. I would still rather see you use Chrome because "Google, fuck yeah" but if you like the Microsoft interface, and want to use applications made by Microsoft than use it.
I personally am caught up in the Google ecosystem and I don't use almost any MS product so it wouldn't make any sense for me to use Edge, but I can see why you would want to use it.
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Right, but the guy started the topic, it's not like he is wrong for using Edge
I wish it gets addons soon, the firm I worked for last year is slowly transitioning away from Windows XP (yes, XP) to Windows 10 and thus far everyone has been running Internet Explorer to access the building's Intranet and the internet, the problem with Internet explorer is that it is basically unusable after you get used to Chrome, Edge at least has some functionality.
The browser is stable and usable, but that's as fat as it gets, like I said to Teddy (which backfired because it seems like he is riled up about this conversation) Edge is an okay browser but it is inferior in almost every aspect.. no, pretty much inferior everywhere, but it gets the job done. I would still rather see you use Chrome because "Google, fuck yeah" but if you like the Microsoft interface, and want to use applications made by Microsoft than use it.
I personally am caught up in the Google ecosystem and I don't use almost any MS product so it wouldn't make any sense for me to use Edge, but I can see why you would want to use it.
I guess that's a reasonable explanation. Maybe I like Edge so much because I love the Microsoft's ecosystem? I'd love to get a high-specs Windows Phone but I am a little broke :D
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like I said to Teddy (which backfired because it seems like he is riled up about this conversation)
I just don't like people being wrong. So, don't be wrong and no worries.
I guess that's a reasonable explanation. Maybe I like Edge so much because I love the Microsoft's ecosystem? I'd love to get a high-specs Windows Phone but I am a little broke :D
I don't mind the Microsoft Ecosystem, Google's is just better and far superior in nearly every aspect. It's sad to see how hard Microsoft has screwed up the last 10 years. The legacy Bill Gates left behind has been trashed. There was a point where Microsoft led the industry and now they have no industry leading products. They're busy playing catchup and trying to drive into markets already too far gone and saturated. They simply predicted the mobile era wrong and blew it.
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I just like seeing other people's point of view, even if by doing it I'm in the wrong. And I went through the same phase the dude is going through.
I bought a cheapo Windows 10 laptop, I bought a xbox one, I bought a windows phone.. and let me tell you buddy..
That is quite possibly the worst idea I've had in my life, I wasted 1050€ on literal shit, I would've had more fun using the euros as fuel.
The laptop is great to run one app at a time, the best being chrome, the xbox one crashes while I play games on it and it heats up my room by like 2°C,
the phone? THE PHONE!?
Like I said, my point of view is most of the time trying to understand both parties, so I decided to try the Windows Phone ecosystem, and the lumia 640xl .. would pretty much be the perfect phone, it lasted me 3 days which of android is god damn uheard of, it was huge, rocking a shitty 720p display, had a great camera, the apps weren't a problem. But oh my god. It's the tiny things, like when you click space it some times recognizes the command as "crash the fucking app" or just little details in apps. Nothing is truly polished, everything seems rushed it made me miss my dying rooted Galaxy S4 so much that I sold the phone after a month of use.
Seriously, they made the perfect Android phone that doesn't run android.
If we are talking about "ecosystems" .. such a BS term but okay. Truly Google one is the best, not only is it the cheapest, it possibly isn't the safest, at this point I'm sure Google knows more about me than I do, but it works, I always thought apple fanboys use the phrase "it just works" as a meme but seriously, google just works.
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If we are talking about "ecosystems" .. such a BS term but okay. Truly Google one is the best, not only is it the cheapest, it possibly isn't the safest, at this point I'm sure Google knows more about me than I do, but it works, I always thought apple fanboys use the phrase "it just works" as a meme but seriously, google just works.
Truth be told I trust Google knowing more about me than I do any Government or any other organization. I must admit I am even a little concerned at times, like when I go to McDonalds and Google Now decides to show me the menu and then I think oh cool, I don't have to try and see over these people because my McDonalds doesn't have the menu up high like most others...
Google's business is based on search and getting information when it's needed. You can't make money on that alone so they do the only thing they can do and sell data collected from it in order to create targeted advertisements. Creepy af but eh I don't really mind.
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If your laptop can't handle multi-tasking then it's your choice of hardware that's at fault, not the OS'es fault. Let me remind you that Microsoft doesn't regulate the hardware that Windows gets pre-installed to. I have my main desktop PC and a cheap, 300 EURO Packard Bell laptop with 2GB of RAM and both of them work faster with Windows 10 than on any other OS.
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If your laptop can't handle multi-tasking then it's your choice of hardware that's at fault, not the OS'es fault. Let me remind you that Microsoft doesn't regulate the hardware that Windows gets pre-installed to. I have my main desktop PC and a cheap, 300 EURO Packard Bell laptop with 2GB of RAM and both of them work faster with Windows 10 than on any other OS.
Not really hardware's fault, I think it's the software I install on it, the laptop is meant to be a sort of tablet replacement as it's the Transformerbook T200, it's you know.. it has a tablet processor and 2 gb ram, it's not meant for multitasking, but I have installed so many programs on it that no wonder it's slow, if I kept the laptop clean of resource hogging programs it wouldn't chug like a fucking 19th century steam locomotive.
But hey, I made a choice, I'm sticking with it, it's good enough for porn and google drive, and if (and when) I install linux on it; I will have even more reasons to love it.
A nifty little device, brings headaches to me every few weeks, but not the worst thing I bought.
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You know... speaking on the original subject by the OP... you don't really need Windows Defender, I'd recommend switching that out with a more optimized AV.
You can always go without an AV if you don't connect to the Internet. If you are connected to the Internet, AV is required. Sure the easiest way to get a virus is by unsafe browsing habits... but it is also possible to get infected by malware on a site that has been infected despite being a normal site. A few weeks ago an advertisement network was infected by malware and thousands of PCs got infected as a result in only a few minutes. Additionally there is this thing called a worm, it attacks vulnerable devices without invoking by a user, meaning you simply need to be online and not even doing anything for it to spread.
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You know... speaking on the original subject by the OP... you don't really need Windows Defender, I'd recommend switching that out with a more optimized AV.
You can always go without an AV if you don't connect to the Internet. If you are connected to the Internet, AV is required. Sure the easiest way to get a virus is by unsafe browsing habits... but it is also possible to get infected by malware on a site that has been infected despite being a normal site. A few weeks ago an advertisement network was infected by malware and thousands of PCs got infected as a result in only a few minutes. Additionally there is this thing called a worm, it attacks vulnerable devices without invoking by a user, meaning you simply need to be online and not even doing anything for it to spread.
I recommend MalwareBytes, the best AV I used in a while.
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You know... speaking on the original subject by the OP... you don't really need Windows Defender, I'd recommend switching that out with a more optimized AV.
You can always go without an AV if you don't connect to the Internet. If you are connected to the Internet, AV is required. Sure the easiest way to get a virus is by unsafe browsing habits... but it is also possible to get infected by malware on a site that has been infected despite being a normal site. A few weeks ago an advertisement network was infected by malware and thousands of PCs got infected as a result in only a few minutes. Additionally there is this thing called a worm, it attacks vulnerable devices without invoking by a user, meaning you simply need to be online and not even doing anything for it to spread.
oh right.. the subject of the topic.. uhh..
I have personally had great experience using NOD32 as my antivirus, although you have to pay for it I did get a great discount as a student.
Around the internet there are tonnes of free antivirus programs, personally I've had bad experiences with most of them (especially AVG, a freaking week after installing it a report came out on reddit saying it's vulnerable)
You don't need a antivirus.. but you sort of do, it's just another form of protecting your PC, and rather safe than sorry, you might say "I don't have anything important to steal" until someone steals something important of yours. Always protect your data, just get a antivirus.
And if OP wants to check right now for viruses or worms, this is the combo I always use to clean my friends PCs;
https://toolslib.net/downloads/viewdownload/1-adwcleaner/
https://www.malwarebytes.org/
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You don't need a antivirus.. but you sort of do, it's just another form of protecting your PC, and rather safe than sorry, you might say "I don't have anything important to steal" until someone steals something important of yours. Always protect your data, just get a antivirus.
Yeah it kinda does depend on what you do. I have to have my devices secure because I use my credit cards online, and my banking details, plus I have client work, client details, and even client billing details stored so I kind of do need to legally take precautions to ensure the integrity of those.
If you use a system just for gaming and light reading or nothing "sensitive" then you can probably do without any potent AV that has a ton of different real-time monitoring tools.
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@Teddy
Which Antivirus do you suggest?
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@Teddy
Which Antivirus do you suggest?
I have Avast Pro, had it for years and don't think I'll switch, the free version isn't bad either. I'd also recommend Kaspersky or NOD32.
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Well, Windows defender has been quite a headache lately. It's been giving false positives a lot, such as detecting VC:MP as a virus :S