Nice, I'd like to see how this turns out.
Group X start a kidnap, 5 (online) cops respond, get killed and suspects are not available to continue the roleplay since there are no other people to roleplay with (cops)? This won't work. Atleast one party has to return in my opinion.Don't worry, the RP will be continued with the hostage.
But we'll see.
cops respond, get killedNo more rambo rush by the police side. More organized responds/chases, etc.
Ok, nice rule. But picture this. Servers got about what 40 players... 7 of which are cops. Now there is a criminal with his family about 8 people. All the cops end up dying because they were out numbered. What then? There wont be no more cops comming back, so what do the criminals do then?Umm
Ok, nice rule. But picture this. Servers got about what 40 players... 7 of which are cops. Now there is a criminal with his family about 8 people. All the cops end up dying because they were out numbered. What then? There wont be no more cops comming back, so what do the criminals do then?Lrn2beorganised instead of going full rambo....
Ok, nice rule. But picture this. Servers got about what 40 players... 7 of which are cops. Now there is a criminal with his family about 8 people. All the cops end up dying because they were out numbered. What then? There wont be no more cops comming back, so what do the criminals do then?Run free :D
Well, uh, after today's Angel Pine setup I'd say that's 1-0 to the SAPD... game on ;)So, cannot cops organise every day like the situation today? You may add 1 more extra officer allowed in a cruiser by making it 3/cruiser and patrol all together. The returning after death rule is not needed if you're organised.
Well, uh, after today's Angel Pine setup I'd say that's 1-0 to the SAPD... game on ;)This new rule fucks criminals so hard because law enforcement now work together and plan their assault better, we pretty much got rekt, will have to do some planning to counteract this big change. :rolleyes:
Ok, nice rule. But picture this. Servers got about what 40 players... 7 of which are cops. Now there is a criminal with his family about 8 people. All the cops end up dying because they were out numbered. What then? There wont be no more cops comming back, so what do the criminals do then?Escape! Why the f*ck would you want to be hunted for the rest of your "life". As a criminal, you're supposed to escape, not make them chase you.
As a criminal, you're supposed to escape, not make them chase you.A concept too many do not understand.
I think this will bring more care and roleplay interaction from the Law side..No. If you would like to achieve this we will need to remove the free-equipment since they still habe nothing to lose.
Chat shit get banged is my mentality from this point on @Luke
Cops have something to lose now so they will behave.. I like it.
No. If you would like to achieve this we will need to remove the free-equipment since they still habe nothing to lose.They should have access to guns and other equipment. That's logical as they're law enforcement. Roleplay is more important than guns anyway.
Roleplay is more important than guns anyway.
No. If you would like to achieve this we will need to remove the free-equipment since they still habe nothing to lose.I actually suggested something about this. Cops still get free guns from /rearm and /weaponequip but the government pays some amount for the equipments (such as 50% per equipment for bulk orders.)
I actually suggested something about this. Cops still get free guns from /rearm and /weaponequip but the government pays some amount for the equipments (such as 50% per equipment for bulk orders.)Sure, the government will simply start collecting taxes on a more regular basis.
I believe the money received for a kill was reduced to discourage people from doing it, and to encourage them to jail people instead. Not too sure how well this worked to be totally honest :lol: :war:Only thing encouraging cops from killing suspects is the suspects' ego.
Cops need higher payments, on the same par as criminals. Something like $750 for a kill and $1,500 for an arrest.
Who do you propose will pay for this?The criminals, your honour!
Only thing encouraging cops from killing suspects is the suspects' ego.Correct.
Who do you propose will pay for this?The same one who is currently paying the money SAPD is getting. Government.
Who do you propose will pay for this?
The same one who is currently paying the money SAPD is getting. Government.
To reiterate: this exactly the same as both parties. Nobody can return.
Well, atleast it's for both parties, if it was only for cops, I would cry and be depressed for weeks and weeks.
The government cannot afford a pay raise :lol:How come? Government gets 45% of a vehicle when it gets sold.... It probably gets like 30-40k a day :P And you cannot afford giving cops a extra $500 for their job?
Who do you propose will pay for this?The script, though changing pay values from $100 and $500 respectively. :lol:
How come? Government gets 45% of a vehicle when it gets sold.... It probably gets like 30-40k a day :P And you cannot afford giving cops a extra $500 for their job?Sorry my fault, SWAT weapon equips all day and night, and we spend all the cash on guns :(
Sorry my fault, SWAT weapon equips all day and night, and we spend all the cash on guns :(Most of it goes to your food expenses!
Most of it goes to your food expenses!
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Cops need higher payments, on the same par as criminals. Something like $750 for a kill and $1,500 for an arrest.
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And even then, nobody got in trouble for cop baiting, DMing or anything else. The only thing that happened was one of your boys hiding behind the gate to avoid potential RP.
We're not allowed to be inside our HQ now?Nope, you have to be an open target for whoever out of every criminal that Argonath has to kill you. As you can see, in reality, everyday criminals drive by some cops, raid FBI HQ, some PDs and so on. Just read news and you'll see. There's also many youtube videos showing how bunch of gangbangers and mafia men chase cops on streets of Los Angeles.
You can't deny (almost) all of the servers face the same problem: a cops and robbers theme. This is the only thing we should try to avoid and make sure scripts don't support. So make it harder for both parties to earn money. I know almost these both parties (majority of Argonath) won't support this tho its the real deal.
How come? Government gets 45% of a vehicle when it gets sold.... It probably gets like 30-40k a day :P And you cannot afford giving cops a extra $500 for their job?No because SAPD can't roleplay, and it's full of asslickers.
There's actually plenty of animosity between criminals and PD/SD on LS:RP. Cops in that server get even more advantages than they do here and the admin team is always siding with them on every issue. It's ridiculous. But yeah, during RP there's still better interaction between both parties than happens here and the rigorous application system makes it hard for rulebreakers to get in.Don't forget they do not have the rights to voice their opinion or cry about it else they get banned..
and it's full of asslickers.
An honest chief. #TruthWeekSomething none will ever take. :janek:
Something none will ever take. :janek:
I'm no asslicker, asshole :(Shut up, you've been in mine too.
Shut up, you've been in mine too.
So does that mean if a criminal or group of criminals escape after killing all the cops available, could the same cops go after them should they become suspected again?
I don't know. While there was like 80 people on today with 1/3 of that being cops, there are times during the european night / very early morning in which the server is less populated, and there are barely any cops.Because cop duty is the only job that gives little to no payment, why bother when you can make 500k a day cooking meth?
I would personally say we keep the rule running, but what is the perspective on this from those that have been active ingame?It has worked pretty well and noone of the force has been against it. We have been more organised and the teamwork has been exellent. If this gets removed i'm pretty sure Rambo cops will come back :lol:
Everything has been the same... not like we changed...
...now people just pay more attention to it
I see a difference.?
Can we all stop with the more organised BS?
I've been cracking up with drix and some FBI guys, because of this...
Everything has been the same, now people just pay more attention to it, it's not like we changed shit over night, reality is, nothing was changed!
Have a good one!
I'm sure the SAPD dropped back and stayed organised back when I was kidnapping people back in 2009/2010, let's not pretend it's new :cowboy:I see you keep bringing your 2009 crimes back every now and then in your posts to prove your point. Just so you know, criminals have to work very differently now than they did 5 years ago and your experience as a criminal from that period holds no credit in today's Argonath.
I see you keep bringing your 2009 crimes back every now and then in your posts to prove your point. Just so you know, criminals have to work very differently now than they did 5 years ago and your experience as a criminal from that period holds no credit in today's Argonath.