Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Teddy on May 01, 2016, 02:03:42 am
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You have until the first of next month to pay, after the first of next month without payment your property will go into foreclosure. Get paying! :rage:
formula: tax = (property price - interior price) * 0.008
Use the following commands while standing on a property:
/checkpropertytax
/paypropertytax
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Ok.
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Don't forget you can also look at the panel to see the tax you are due. When there is tax due it will show a red warning on the property details page. It will always show a small text besides the property raw price indicating your monthly tax.
https://panel.argonathrpg.nl/assets/
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How about a way to either avoid taxes, or get some of it deducted for big taxpayers?
Tax avoidance, for example, would involve people with 200k worth of properties somehow trying to avoid taxes altogether (it being only 1600 bucks anyway) at a certain risk like facing double taxes for the attempted evasion, somehow. How something like that would work, I don't know, but the idea of tax evasion through script would be a nice alternative to people selling properties to avoid taxes, which I've heard developers call script abuse. On top of that I heard it's impossible to evade taxes like this since the last update. Either way, tax evasion somehow would be nice.
Tax deduction is another idea I had for people who own a total of 2 million or more worth of properties. It would involve somehow being able to get discounts on the taxes to be paid. It could be done through the economical court in some cases. We could come up with regulations and laws on the matter of how exactly the tax deduction is to be done. The reason I think this would be nice, is for the people who own the really expensive stuff in San Andreas, such as Mario Soprano's Avispa, which at a staggering 13 million value, is gonna cost him 102K a month, which is 1224K a year. I think this is a bit over the top, so ways to deduct taxes would be a good idea for those really big real-estate owners.
Another thing I just came up with to counter those insanely high taxes would be something like the Dutch income taxing system. It probably works differently in every country, but in the Netherlands, the amount of taxes you pay over your income, is basically based on the amount of said income. The graph below gives you a picture of what that looks like:
(http://plzcdn.com/ZillaIMG/249156a85de83f2a6f93f8be987c967d.jpg)
Now, I think it'd be nice if we change the amount of taxes to be paid for properties, based on the height of the cumulative property value a player has to pay taxes over. It would look something like this:
Total property value Amount of taxes paid over relevant prop. value in %
1.000.000,- and less 0.008
1.000.000,- to 2.000.000,- 0.007
2.000.000,- to 4.000.000,- 0.006
4.000.000,- to 8.000.000,- 0.0055
8.000.000,- and more 0.005
These numbers are something I think would be fair, but I'm just trying to illustrate what the system would look like. In income taxing IRL, it's actually the other way round. The more you earn, the more you pay. In Argonath, I think it should be the other way round because of the way the economy works. High-value real-estate owners don't typically earn more than the rest of us. Everyone pretty much has the same oppertunities in Argonath in terms of earning cash. This is why I think people paying 100k a month just to avoid foreclosure is a bit over the top. Sure, they should pay more than if they were to own a shack in East Los Santos or something, but it's gotta be leveled better in my opinion.
Of course this would also open a bunch of oppertunities for court and mayoral roleplay, actually allowing people to form an opinion over a certain tax plan a candidate may have. It also puts the candidate in a spot where he has to come up with a concrete plan on how to tax people, rather than just promising ''LOW TAXES''. It all depends on how serious you wanna get about it. Maybe I'm overcomplicating things, but it really could open a lot of doors if the community's already on that road. I mainly brought it up because of those spectacularly high monthly taxes for certain players, though.
Also, since the interior price is deducted from the total property value, it will also make those people on the edges of 1 mil, 2 mil, and so on and so forth, think about what kind of interior/furniture to put in their interiors to stay in the lower taxing regions. This is something that actually could introduce a whole new angle to owning properties in Argonath. Those who get the system can profit through deduction, avoidance or just being clever in managing their properties/interiors, while those who can't be arsed will pay the 'standard' tax. It's about making it fair but also keeping it interesting rather than just paying a set amount into the mayor's pocket.
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https://panel.argonathrpg.nl/assets/
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I paid the taxes two times already, now checking the panel it says i still got to pay all of them and the price doubled, is this a joke? :uhm:
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I paid the taxes two times already, now checking the panel it says i still got to pay all of them and the price doubled, is this a joke? :uhm:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=116393.msg1830328;topicseen#new
Fix taxes or riot!
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Wops, you need your own name after that. I fixed it with an automatic redirect just now.
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https://panel.argonathrpg.nl/assets/Stivi_Gvardia/properties > Click on property.
I paid the taxes two times already, now checking the panel it says i still got to pay all of them and the price doubled, is this a joke? :uhm:
Two months. Don't know why.
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Hopefully this will bring some diversification in terms of where people live. Maybe we can see more roleplay in non-wealthy areas
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It is bugged tho, I have to pay $18,495 in taxes which is the double of 0.008%
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It is bugged tho, I have to pay $18,495 in taxes which is the double of 0.008%
I can confirm this, Avispa went from $102k tax to $204k..
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This is bugged, can you look into it? I've got to pay $1419, instead it says I need to pay $2840.
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...and it looks like I have to pay again for the properties I paid last night, with doubled tax lol.
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...and it looks like I have to pay again for the properties I paid last night, with doubled tax lol.
I can confirm this, I also need to pay the double up taxes today.
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I aint paying shit.
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I aint paying shit.
:D
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but I already pay enough taxes in real life :rage:
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We've fixed a problem with the order which should prevent the problem from occurring again in the future.
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Yet another bug was fixed about 45 minutes ago. Before that the game said the tax was paid, while the database was not updated. All taxes will have to be repaid.
Any lost money due to previous (useless) payments will be refunded ONLY by me. So hit me up in-game today or tomorrow.
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So if we pay them now, it'll all work fine?
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What if a player is banned and unable to pay taxes? :sweat:
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What if a player is banned and unable to pay taxes? :sweat:
You'll loose it
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Dear HQ
Any update on toll booths?
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Dear HQ
Any update on toll booths?
Dear Kaze
What you talking about?
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Toll booths work, update given.
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Man I want a tax rebate paid that shit last night, now it asking me again'
Fuckin like real life right, I need to file for a rebate irl, fucking £200 Tax and £200 N.I...
Now getting ass fucked ingame :lol:
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Toll booths work, update given.
After a stressful 12 hour shift I think it's fair to say you made my day :lol:
Are the booths a trial period or there to remain?
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What if a player is banned and unable to pay taxes? :sweat:
Clearly you didn't get the purpose of this system. :)
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Man I want a tax rebate paid that shit last night, now it asking me again'
Fuckin like real life right, I need to file for a rebate irl, f**cking £200 Tax and £200 N.I...
Now getting ass fucked ingame :lol:
Nigga I got taxed £20 I raged and HMRC.. i best get that shit back boy
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Tell me about it Luke...
You think you're gonna get a nice fat paycheck, then *bam*, between pension payments, tax and NI they take 9 grand off you...
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Toll booths are staying, they also help bring some money into the state too. There are a couple routes to bypass tolls if you know where to go. :cowboy: