Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Kaze on May 04, 2016, 12:16:17 pm
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Bring back BSF but BSF will only include players being either a FD, Taxi, Medic, Hooker etc. This way we will have more diversification ingame. Equal amount of cops, civilians and the mentioned above.
Of course BSF will have to be altered but let's face it Teddy, most players here are money hungry so we exploit their weakness for the greater good of the server.
Civillians should get bsf aswell. Script will check the player has not purchased a lethal weapon in a very long time or not been involved with the cops for a long time. A message will pop up saying 'You have been a good citizen, the state decided to reward you with $3,000! Collect it at your nearest city hall' - A bit like the occasional money I get on GTA 5 online.
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One of my goals as a mayor is to use the tax money and assign it back to the community as daily paychecks for legal workers.
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One of my goals as a mayor is to use the tax money and assign it back to the community as daily paychecks for legal workers.
Sounds like a damn good idea. :)
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I think this was suggested before and denie... idk what HQs thought will be now...But i believe they got plans for the future.
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One of my goals as a mayor is to use the tax money and assign it back to the community as daily paychecks for legal workers.
elect timon i give free money
BSF should return as the way it was originally intended in RS4, a way to support players who actively roleplay as laborers, not a fakeass scheme to get Roman Collin's pockets bigger.
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Civillians should get bsf aswell. Script will check the player has not purchased a lethal weapon in a very long time or not been involved with the cops for a long time. A message will pop up saying 'You have been a good citizen, the state decided to reward you with $3,000! Collect it at your nearest city hall' - A bit like the occasional money I get on GTA 5 online.
That's some top notch roleplay.
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That's some top notch roleplay.
10/10 rp ser ggwp
It's roleplay in itself if you survive San Andreas using words and no harmful weapons to hurt your enemy. Sadly a narrow minded cunt like you wouldn't notice that. Not to mention it's cops vs robbers right now so economic incentive will balance that out. Yes I know we need to stoop that low to fix up.
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narrow minded cunt
kek
We don't need to stoop that low or whatever you're on about. There's a ridiculous amount of economic stimulus present for the players right now in terms of scripted jobs, which allows them to easily do those for a little while and return to whatever they wish to do later with their pockets lined with cash. If BSF ever has to return, it can work on a case by case basis decided by the server management to be provided to groups that are actively roleplaying, we should realise the mistakes made last time and only give it to selected groups (for example SAFD, if they're actively roleplaying firemen). If the application process is rigorous the mistakes made by the BSF last time won't be repeated.
Your idea for spawning cash out of nowhere for players who haven't bought a weapon or some shite like that is plain retarded and ruins the game.
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BSF simply created massive inflation within the economy by injecting money in for no reason. Every second person owned a "company" with x amount of members just to claim money from it.
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One of my goals as a mayor is to use the tax money and assign it back to the community as daily paychecks for legal workers.
All the mayors have been removed from their positions because two are position hogging, inactive do-nothings.. and one is banned :(
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what does bsf stand for, i need context cus rs5 generation no rs4 pls
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kek
We don't need to stoop that low or whatever you're on about. There's a ridiculous amount of economic stimulus present for the players right now in terms of scripted jobs, which allows them to easily do those for a little while and return to whatever they wish to do later with their pockets lined with cash. If BSF ever has to return, it can work on a case by case basis decided by the server management to be provided to groups that are actively roleplaying, we should realise the mistakes made last time and only give it to selected groups (for example SAFD, if they're actively roleplaying firemen). If the application process is rigorous the mistakes made by the BSF last time won't be repeated.
Your idea for spawning cash out of nowhere for players who haven't bought a weapon or some shite like that is plain retarded and ruins the game.
this tbh
I'd much rather see some more paydays at times when stuff is, in general, going good ingame. That's how it goes in VC:MP; if a majority roleplays you'll see small paydays from Klaus and Kessu if they're around.
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BSF simply created massive inflation within the economy by injecting money in for no reason. Every second person owned a "company" with x amount of members just to claim money from it.
This version would consist of BSF only on scripted jobs to balance out the player base along other jobs apart from cops vs robbers. No private owned companies etc like the previous BSF because of what you said above.
To summarise this idea, make an incentive (such as money) for people to use the taxi/medic script etc.
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Your idea for spawning cash out of nowhere for players who haven't bought a weapon or some shite like that is plain retarded and ruins the game.
If players know that they will receive some sort of incentive from not pulling out guns in every interaction, people would actually start to roleplay more. (excluding the new rules)
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what does bsf stand for, i need context cus rs5 generation no rs4 pls
Business Support Fund; its aim was to provide business owners with monetary aid to finance their projects and use some of it as salary money etcetera.
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yes bring back BSF, have a drunken leader who gives out millions to people who beg him whilst hes intoxicated :)
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yes bring back BSF, have a drunken leader who gives out millions to people who beg him whilst hes intoxicated :)
:lol:
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This is something a the roleplay government, such as majors, should do, not the HQ. Besides, find wealthy people who support this idea and open the group :). Don't ruin the economy by spawning shitloads of money for groups who will close in the upcoming month after getting support and keep the money to themselves.
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Do not make it so difficult. We have a pretty large taxing system in Argonath, right? That should be enough to fund the legal jobs in money, right? The way it is right now, people got no way of earning a money. It is virtual money anyone. It's not like everyone is going to be a millionare. Make taxing bigger for people depending on their economy. If they are rich, make them tax more, if they are poor, make them tax less.
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BSF simply created massive inflation within the economy by injecting money in for no reason. Every second person owned a "company" with x amount of members just to claim money from it.
yes bring back BSF, have a drunken leader who gives out millions to people who beg him whilst hes intoxicated :)
This.
BSF worked for Roman only.
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Do not make it so difficult. We have a pretty large taxing system in Argonath, right? That should be enough to fund the legal jobs in money, right? The way it is right now, people got no way of earning a money. It is virtual money anyone. It's not like everyone is going to be a millionare. Make taxing bigger for people depending on their economy. If they are rich, make them tax more, if they are poor, make them tax less.
There is ways to make cash and lots of it but you need to turn criminal to turn over a good profit, we've seen people make $5,000,00 with ease some have went triple that. All the legal scripted jobs have always suffered from being good earners, even if they received paycheck's I'm in doubt it will make much difference since you seem to spend more than you make.
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This.
BSF worked for Roman only.
Let's be honest, he milked the shit out of it too for his own benefit so he could run around claiming to be rich on RS4 with spawned money.
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Let's be honest, he milked the shit out of it too for his own benefit so he could run around claiming to be rich on RS4 with spawned money.
Correct.
So-called pizza companies earned over 140k a month for what they called 'roleplay'.
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Correct.
So-called pizza companies earned over 140k a month for what they called 'roleplay'.
140k is nothing compared to what an average criminal makes a day on RS5.
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140k is nothing compared to what an average criminal makes a day on RS5.
In the meantime, an average cop rarely make anything as most criminals do not surrender due to far too low consequences for dying instead of surrendering. 100 ARD for a taken down suspect is a joke. Not even worth the effort or risk, considering that you may not return if you day.
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140k is nothing compared to what an average criminal makes a day on RS5.
It was much more. Director earned 60k, two managers earned 40k each, three cooks earned 35k each, six delivery guys earned 15k each.
They posted a couple of activity reports and logged in when salary was given.
BSF was/is a joke.
In the meantime, an average cop rarely make anything as most criminals do not surrender due to far too low consequences for dying instead of surrendering. 100 ARD for a taken down suspect is a joke. Not even worth the effort or risk, considering that you may not return if you day.
They should add more storage opportunities and let criminals lose everything they carry.
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I see no point of bringing BSF back since new jobs have a lot of opportunities of earning more money than to spend a whole month doing a specific job for a random paycheck.
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They should add more storage opportunities and let criminals lose everything they carry.
I am pretty sure that is included in the future plans. Once the possibility to storage weapons and clothes (I think those two are more important) they will or might loose everything they are carrying on.
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It was much more. Director earned 60k, two managers earned 40k each, three cooks earned 35k each, six delivery guys earned 15k each.
I know how BSF worked, I was apart of 4 companies myself :lol:
In the meantime, an average cop rarely make anything as most criminals do not surrender due to far too low consequences for dying instead of surrendering. 100 ARD for a taken down suspect is a joke. Not even worth the effort or risk, considering that you may not return if you day.
pls no make me quote how many times higher cop pay was suggested
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a narrow minded cunt
this fucker right here.
Also there is no need for anything, just make some money and than roleplay what you wanted to roleplay initially, I made 900k in two days, now I'm using that money to roleplay.
Why ask scripters to do work for you instead of stopping to be a lazy prick?
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Or just have a server wide paycheck system?
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Or just have a server wide paycheck system?
I prefer a working saving account.
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I prefer a working saving account.
No saving. It will make the economy destable. Where will the extra money come from?
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No saving. It will make the economy destable. Where will the extra money come from?
Have you seen the global bank? :eek:
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I cannot and will not condone a system that provides money without absolute accountability and commitment. I do not see BSF or the mere idea of BSF as a possibility to suffice those requirements.
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I cannot and will not condone a system that provides money without absolute accountability and commitment. I do not see BSF or the mere idea of BSF as a possibility to suffice those requirements.
Can you please reply to my PM and by giving me a feedback actually improve the economy by giving more options to legal jobs? Or, delay it until the market for gems appears.
That would be more useful than discussing god da-mn BSF which is a money farming method.
Cheers.
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I would confidently support something similar to this, perhaps making overshadowed jobs more used, pushing them towards roleplaying and earning cash in the same time. It requires a new structure maybe but I'd love to see it implemented.
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What BSF did is it set requirements that were far too easy for any business owner to accomplish and as a result we dumped overloads of money into the economy, and guess what happened? Business owners took advantage of the system, kept 90 percent of the money for themselves and distributed small amounts to their employees. The system was completely corrupted and flawed, the management staff for BSF had criteria they were suppose to follow-up on that never occurred.
The system in itself is a great concept, it introduces money into the economy by providing business the opportunity to roleplay and provide business opportunities for players, but it has to be maintained and managed strictly to prevent it's overuse and abuse like it was before and caused unhealthy rates of inflation that assisted in completely ruining the previous economy. If we can prevent that from happening, I'll always support form of government subsidies to help produce growth.
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What BSF did is it set requirements that were far too easy for any business owner to accomplish and as a result we dumped overloads of money into the economy, and guess what happened? Business owners took advantage of the system, kept 90 percent of the money for themselves and distributed small amounts to their employees. The system was completely corrupted and flawed, the management staff for BSF had criteria they were suppose to follow-up on that never occurred.
The system in itself is a great concept, it introduces money into the economy by providing business the opportunity to roleplay and provide business opportunities for players, but it has to be maintained and managed strictly to prevent it's overuse and abuse like it was before and caused unhealthy rates of inflation that assisted in completely ruining the previous economy. If we can prevent that from happening, I'll always support form of government subsidies to help produce growth.
Kind of like 5.2 Meth ?
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Kind of like 5.2 Meth ?
The flaws of meth in 5.2 are the exact same inflation flaws BSF had, we just caught meth a lot quicker than we caught BSF.
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When I was running Argonath World Records, BSF was actually pretty strict.
We had to identify a strategy of expenditure, which for us included:
- Monthly paychecks
- Average expenditure for money given to players with new World Records
- Expenditure for advertising
This was reviewed by the BSF team, who ensured we weren't taking the piss.
In addition, we also had a set of criteria, one of which was having 50% of our employee base consisting of players 6 months old or less.
Every cost had to be proven (usually by screenshot), including all monthly payments, all payments to new World Record Holders, and and every advertisement. Absolute ball-ache (for me and Curse particularly - he did adverts) but it worked fairly well :lol:
I do think BSF was initially very lenient, but certainly not when we got to using it!
It'd be great to have some kind of initiative like this - Government grants are not anything new and if there's an area of problems, there should be incentives.
Just my 2 cents worth :gand:
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Putting BSF back in the game is a no-no. It's a bad idea imo and it will lead to failure.
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RS5.2 introduced more ways for people to earn money and you still want that shitty BSF back? No thanks! :gand:
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Not supporting nor declining the idea but those who are bitching that BSF was a pretty corrupted, Roman just filled his pockets and this is a bad idea, they are totally wrong.
I've experienced it and BSF had a pretty strict criteria. Secondly BSF made companies active, as in people would get active and their playing hours would increase. I don't clearly remember it but perhaps BSF had a 'minimum playing hours' criteria too. This thing made people to play on Argonath and spend their time doing their jobs so that they could earn shitload of money, yes almost 30-100k but overall it was an advantage for Argonath and it's activity. It gave people an aim and a perspective to spend their time on Argonath.
This thing can work if you want it to work, simple.