Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Rusty on June 03, 2016, 10:04:42 pm
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In regard to the last Mayor elections that were held we'll be forgetting they ever took place. Instead we'll be considering this the first real election for Mayor.
On Monday 6th June we'll be officially announcing the Mayor elections for the three cities of San Andreas. You can find the requirements to run for Mayor below, more information will be posted on June 6th inside the Election Hall boards for Mayor candidates to read over as-well as how the voting process will be handled.
MAYORAL CANDIDATE REQUIREMENTS
- Have been a member of Argonath SA:MP for more than six months.
- Have a good understanding of the Constitution and what being a Mayor entails.
- Able to work alongside all Government agencies.
- Genuine interest to work with other people, groups and business entities.
- Cannot have been convicted in court within the last month.
- Able to create new and unique ideas and/or events for the city of which you may be Mayor in.
- Have a minimum of $300,000
- Candidates must meet an activity requirement of at least 30 hours within the past 30 days (at point of announcing candidacy).
- During the period of campaigning, elections, and term of mayor; person must maintain regular activity
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timon 4 mayor
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As a person who once ran for mayor, please make sure you look at voting laws as well to prevent the shit show we all saw and took advantage of during the last election.
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Los Santos - Caion
Las Venturas - Salmonella
San Fierro - Mikal
Do we really need to vote?
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As a person who once ran for mayor, please make sure you look at voting laws as well to prevent the shit show we all saw and took advantage of during the last election.
Won't be the same as last time, we've worked out a more simple way to go about voting.
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- Have been a member of Argonath SA:MP for more than six months.
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- Have a good understanding of the Constitution and what being a Mayor entails.
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- Able to work alongside all Government agencies.
- Heh...
- Genuine interest to work with other people, groups and business entities.
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- Cannot have been convicted in court within the last month.
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- Able to create new and unique ideas and/or events for the city of which you may be Mayor in.
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- Have a minimum of $300,000
- Aaaand I'm out.
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- Have a minimum of $300,000
- Aaaand I'm out.
Asking for funds never hurts :P
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Los Santos - Caion
Las Venturas - Salmonella
San Fierro - Mikal
Do we really need to vote?
This guy
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Welsh gibberish
That's exactly what I was thinking :rofl:
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Los Santos - Caion
Las Venturas - Salmonella
San Fierro - Mikal
Do we really need to vote?
You got it :D
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Good luck gents.
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Good luck to everyone applying, hopefully we won't see as much shit like we did last time.
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Information for those interested in running for Mayor has been posted here (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=114528.0). Dates of when campaigning ends and voting begins will be made available tomorrow. Various other bits of information that are need to know will also be available then.
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Can you clarify this?
We will also be prohibiting any form of terror attacks against a candidate that include the use of; RPGs, molotovs, C4 explosives or grenades.
Terror attacks are allowed, but not involving these weapons?
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I fucked up there I meant to write assassination attempts. My bad. (edited now)
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That wasn't the part I was querying..
Can people attempt to kill the candidates, in full roleplay means.. WITHOUT the use of RPGs, molotovs, C4 explosives or grenades?
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So if a mayor candidate gets assassinated by other means, he is out of the race?
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That wasn't the part I was querying..
Can people attempt to kill the candidates, in full roleplay means.. WITHOUT the use of RPGs, molotovs, C4 explosives or grenades?
That's what it says.
So if a mayor candidate gets assassinated by other means, he is out of the race?
If they agree to accept their death meaning they'd be no longer running, yes.
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If they agree to accept their death meaning they'd be no longer running, yes.
"Despite the 20 bullet holes in my head, I was saved by the hospital, they did a great job and now I'm still running for mayor." :rolleyes:
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"Despite the 20 bullet holes in my head, I was saved by the hospital, they did a great job and now I'm still running for mayor." :rolleyes:
No headshots in SA:MP :lol:
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No headshots in SA:MP :lol:
Only if ur jennifer luciano and you're aiming in the complete opposite direction behind a wall in another virtual world
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Mikal you have my vote for SF and it's boundaries, caion is inactive and Sal has the attention span of a child to take care of a responsibility like that.
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Mikal you have my vote for SF and it's boundaries, caion is inactive and Sal has the attention span of a child to take care of a responsibility like that.
Caion is active.
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Mikal you have my vote for SF and it's boundaries, caion is inactive and Sal has the attention span of a child to take care of a responsibility like that.
That's new. :lol:
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Count me in. :)
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So if a mayor candidate gets assassinated by other means, he is out of the race?
Do you have something in mind? :uhm:
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If anyone can't post in the election hall board let me know so I can get the permissions fixed asap.
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Can admins run for mayor?
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Anyone can long as they meet said requirements, though those in high ranking positions may wish to give it a thought first. Role should be taken seriously and be something you do on a regular basis. Don't want to see people becoming mayor, doing stuff for a few weeks then going inactive. If you have a vivid imagination you can come up with all sorts to keep you going throughout your term as mayor.
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Best post here:
Good luck to everyone applying, hopefully we won't see as much shit like we did last time.
Rest is crap
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lol
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What about voting system?
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What about voting system?
Same as last time except you don't need a house in a a specific city to vote in that city. We may come up with a better option but right now everyone is free to vote for whichever mayor in whichever city regardless. You just need to be a home owner or operate a active business.
Open to suggestions.
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Open to suggestions.
Vote via forum.
Similar to the moderator applications (it is not visible to the public). A user has one chance to vote and that's it. Multiple votes from the same person will result in their vote not counting. I know it's an ingame thing but this way it keeps everything calm and childproof.
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We are voting through the forum.
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We are voting through the forum.
Any ingame politics to be punishable if its talked about on /p. Last time it was hectic people throwing jabs at each other bla bla bla.
Any non-realistic roleplays whilst mayors are giving their speech to be punishable. Today was hectic for Caion's speech. I'd love or actually I'd pay to see some of these guys try do that in real life. How hard is it to sit down for 10 minutes and shut the fuck up?
We could use the house idea however the voter must of been living at that residence for 3 months minimum?
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We could use the house idea however the voter must of been living at that residence for 3 months minimum?
What about those who constantly are moving throughout San Andreas every month?
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What about one vote per district, limited to Citizens via the Forum? Some players have houses in multiple districts
IE, because I have a passport, on the forum I may have 1 vote for LS, 1 vote for SF and 1 vote for LV? Perhaps a thread/topic for each candidate in a Poll. After the poll closes, each vote is then verified to be a singularly named player account(based on their Forum Profile info).
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We are voting through the forum.
What if people makes 5 accounts? just for the vote haha i hope you guys can see the IP.
btw....idea from me, a mayor should have a clean ban record also should not be a cop or criminal. =)
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I don't like the idea of only allowing people to vote for one city, the problem we are going to have is trying to gain enough votes in smaller cities like San Fierro and Las Venturas while every votes for the mayor candidates in Los Santos.
I propose you open voting for a period of 6 days. Since the voting period is already set to 2 days. The idea behind having the voting period be 6 days, is you designate each city to a block of two days. Allow anyone who wants to vote the ability to in each city, but separate the days the voting period opens for each.
Example:
Los Santos Voting - Monday and Tuesday (Open to whomever so long as you own a house, or business)
San Fierro Voting - Wednesday and Thursday (Open to whomever so long as you own a house, or business)
Las Venturas Voting - Friday and Saturday (Open to whomever so long as you own a house, or business)
Sunday, voting results will be announced for all three cities on Sunday following the closing of the polls on Saturday evening for Las Venturas.
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Any non-realistic roleplays whilst mayors are giving their speech to be punishable. Today was hectic for Caion's speech. I'd love or actually I'd pay to see some of these guys try do that in real life. How hard is it to sit down for 10 minutes and shut the fuck up?
Are you referring to my protest? I actually based it on my real life experiences.
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Any non-realistic roleplays whilst mayors are giving their speech to be punishable. Today was hectic for Caion's speech. I'd love or actually I'd pay to see some of these guys try do that in real life. How hard is it to sit down for 10 minutes and shut the fuck up?
But my sexy dancing was good :(
On a more serious note, Caion's speech did okay for a political speech. The real challenge is dealing with disruptive protest activities, so aspiring Mayoral candidates might want to step up preparations in that aspect too.
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We are voting through the forum.
Good thing I don't have 12 forum accounts.
Hopefully there is a way to make one vote per IP, or you won't use polls but you will actually have to write down in the comments
Name:
Place of residence:
I voted for:
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Why we don't use the panel to vote? So we can verify the players and minimize the rate of cheating.
Ofcourse, this is up to the HQ and web development team. However, I think you can optimise and maximize the efficiency by using the panel. :)
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Panel could be good, or at least associate it with active ingame names so we know that each person is only getting one vote. (minimum 8 hours over the past couple of months or something like that)
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We need a decent democratic system.
We need to change the one that was used last time. Allowing everyone to vote for every city is a step back in this process, not a step forward, and it makes no sense, not to mention it goes against everything that elections represents.
These are Mayor elections, not Governors or something. People are picking locally who's gonna run their local city, lets not turn it into a popularity contest.
We could use the house idea however the voter must of been living at that residence for 3 months minimum?
This is a good idea, it will completely cut off any possible manipulations with buying votes and such.
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I think placing a limit based on a residents housing location and how long they have owned the property is a very poor idea.
That promotes the idea that the poor do not get any input.
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Please, the poorest guy on Argonath can/could afford 20k for an apartment.
If you want the right to vote and decide, you gotta meet the required conditions for that right.
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Please, the poorest guy on Argonath can/could afford 20k for an apartment.
If you want the right to vote and decide, you gotta meet the required conditions for that right.
Fair enough, though I believe some people still don't. Length of time could certainly be reduced to a month or so. Depends when the first election is.
Ie. If the first election is two months, then three months minimum is reasonable, but certainly for the first election when people would be unaware of requirements, it would be good to leave it *relatively* open for people to vote.
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Please, the poorest guy on Argonath can/could afford 20k for an apartment.
If you want the right to vote and decide, you gotta meet the required conditions for that right.
The only condition for that right would be citizenship, as no one should be deprived of their right to vote based on economic factors.
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Please, the poorest guy on Argonath can/could afford 20k for an apartment.
If you want the right to vote and decide, you gotta meet the required conditions for that right.
thats me
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This is a good idea, it will completely cut off any possible manipulations with buying votes and such.
Bring or buying votes is an automatic disqualification, done with roleplay terms or not.
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@TheGreasyChopper in the last elections did a topic with title "Electio-tourism" which was refered to some "ideas" which are being given here, now, afterwards. If we will roll back to that topic we will se that was/is very productive for ideas and suggestions, but what makes the last post hilarious is the fact the same persons who boycotted his ideas are attempting to push for same kind of rules.
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@TheGreasyChopper in the last elections did a topic with title "Electio-tourism" which was refered to some "ideas" which are being given here, now, afterwards. If we will roll back to that topic we will se that was/is very productive for ideas and suggestions, but what makes the last post hilarious is the fact the same persons who boycotted his ideas are attempting to push for same kind of rules.
I believe this topic (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=114451.0) should be re-read by the people organizing the elections in order to avoid another shitstorm. As for the same people who boycotted the ideas well yeah, it's obvious that they're afraid to get a taste of their own medicine. :lol:
(http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab118/Kris_Sanders/tedd.png)
I will tell you this. At our next elections we will enforce the principle that a person must own a residence for at least 20 days prior to voting. In the United States, since we're advent on using this as a reference point, you must be a registered citizen of a city in order to register as a vote. This process once you move to a city can take a couple of weeks in some cases so... this will be our simulation of it.
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The only condition for that right would be citizenship, as no one should be deprived of their right to vote based on economic factors.
Perhaps, but since there's no other way to connect people's citizenship to cities, that's the best we can do. Unless someone else has an idea how to do it?
And like I've said if you wont spend 20k for a house, then that's your choice, not really something that's limiting you much.
I will tell you this. At our next elections we will enforce the principle that a person must own a residence for at least 20 days prior to voting. In the United States, since we're advent on using this as a reference point, you must be a registered citizen of a city in order to register as a vote. This process once you move to a city can take a couple of weeks in some cases so... this will be our simulation of it.
QFT, not every citizen in the USA has the right to vote, he has to registered as a voter way before the elections.
In some states you even have to register yourself as a Democratic or Republican voter, and once you do it, you can't vote for any other candidate except from the party you registered in.
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Previous election i bought a house license for 150k then a small house for 35k just for vote. haha rip poor people
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The only condition for that right would be citizenship, as no one should be deprived of their right to vote based on economic factors.
Then they should choose a City to vote for. Even if you're rich as fuck and can have houses in all 3 cities, it would still equalizing for rich and poor if you can only vote for a single Mayor. (as people should do anyway)
Although...
Please, the poorest guy on Argonath can/could afford 20k for an apartment.
Given the jobs we have now, low-cost housing (i.e. state apartments) is still quite accessible. I can make 5K from tending oil pumps in half an hour, so Cofi has a point. But whether Citizenship should be the only basis or not is something definitely worth debating on.
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Reminder to all potential candidates.
Post your manifesto as soon as possible, you have until the 10th to do so and are disallowed from campaigning until you've posted one (Election Hall).
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Reminder to all potential candidates.
Post your manifesto as soon as possible, you have until the 10th to do so and are disallowed from campaigning until you've posted one (Election Hall).
Why is a manifesto required?
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Why is a manifesto required?
Because I made it a requirement.
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Because I made it a requirement.
Does it have to be a pdf file? Or just a topic?
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Does it have to be a pdf file? Or just a topic?
Topic.
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what do mayors even do? what powers do they have? what do they have to take care of?
is it some scripted role where you get to play SimCity/Cities:Skylines:GTA Edition and have to keep the city prospering by managing a budget (taxes, funding, etc)?
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what do mayors even do? what powers do they have? what do they have to take care of?
is it some scripted role where you get to play SimCity/Cities:Skylines:GTA Edition and have to keep the city prospering by managing a budget (taxes, funding, etc)?
Lrn2Forum
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?board=427.0
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Why is a manifesto required?
Because Rusty is addicted to House of Cards so much, he decided to make a simulation of it on Argonath. Hence these elections.
Good thing its wasn't Game of Thrones.
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is it some scripted role where you get to play SimCity/Cities:Skylines:GTA Edition and have to keep the city prospering by managing a budget (taxes, funding, etc)?
You should just stop posting if you don't know what you're talking about.
I hope to see a less toxic voting atmosphere this time around - and some creativity brought to the table by those who are elected. Good luck.
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Good luck to all candidates whoever they will be. It will be my first voting in Argonath, I'm excited. :janek:
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Good thing its wasn't Game of Thrones.
OH MY GOD YES PLEASE
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OH MY GOD YES PLEASE
I am Daenerys Stormborn, of House Targaryen. Rightful heir to the Iron Throne, Queen of the Seven Kingdoms, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, the Mother of Dragons, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, the Unburnt, and the Breaker of Chains. Vote me Mayor.
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Good thing its wasn't Game of Thrones.
How to become Mayor: conquer the City Hall with an army and execute the previous one. Available options include, but are not limited to: beheading, fire, and poisoning.
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How to become Mayor: conquer the City Hall with an army and execute the previous one. Available options include, but are not limited to: beheading, fire, and poisoning.
FLA would love that for sure
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New addition:
+ Candidates must meet an activity requirement of at least 30 hours within the past 30 days (at point of announcing candidacy).
+ During the period of campaigning, elections, and term of mayor; person must maintain regular activity
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Can anyone tell me some more information regarding voting? I've been asking around and I'm not getting clear answers. As in voting for 1 candidate, can you ACTUALLY vote for 1 candidate, or can you vote 1 candidate/city ?
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Can anyone tell me some more information regarding voting? I've been asking around and I'm not getting clear answers. As in voting for 1 candidate, can you ACTUALLY vote for 1 candidate, or can you vote 1 candidate/city ?
You can only for one person in the entire state. If you vote for someone in Las Venturas, you may NOT vote for someone in Los Santos and San Fierro as well.
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New addition:
+ Candidates must meet an activity requirement of at least 30 hours within the past 30 days (at point of announcing candidacy).
+ During the period of campaigning, elections, and term of mayor; person must maintain regular activity
Noted.
I hope AFK wont be abused to increase activity.
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Can mayors change laws?
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Can mayors change laws?
They can enact local bylaws as long as they do not conflict with state laws.
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They can enact local bylaws as long as they do not conflict with state laws.
So they can add new laws, but not "legal weed"-type of laws?
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So they can add new laws, but not "legal weed"-type of laws?
"Production of, use of, sale of, possession of or otherwise distribution of, heroin marijuana or methamphetamine is strictly prohibited." (Sec. III Art. II, Argonath San Andreas Constitution)
Nope, not for weed. The local laws they enact (i.e. City Ordinances) cannot conflict with higher (i.e. State / National) laws, such as the State Constitution. Legalizing weed would require an amendment to the State Constitution.
If a substance is not mentioned or included in a category mentioned in the State Constitution, however, the Mayors are allowed to make their own ruling on it. Such ruling will be binding unless overturned by amendments to the State Constitution or by a Federal Court.
TL;DR: National / Federal Law > State Law > Local Laws
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Pretty much what JDC says.
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"Production of, use of, sale of, possession of or otherwise distribution of, heroin marijuana or methamphetamine is strictly prohibited." (Sec. III Art. II, Argonath San Andreas Constitution)
Nope, not for weed. The local laws they enact (i.e. City Ordinances) cannot conflict with higher (i.e. State / National) laws, such as the State Constitution. Legalizing weed would require an amendment to the State Constitution.
If a substance is not mentioned or included in a category mentioned in the State Constitution, however, the Mayors are allowed to make their own ruling on it. Such ruling will be binding unless overturned by amendments to the State Constitution or by a Federal Court.
TL;DR: National / Federal Law > State Law > Local Laws
Yeah yeah that's what I thought - thanks.
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@Stivi, @Marcel: There is a way though, in theory, that a Mayor can influence laws on marijuana, granted that the State will permit this kind of engagement.
A Mayor (or the joint Mayors of the 3 cities) petitions the Federal / State Government or Courts to amend the State Constitution so as to remove "marijuana" (weed) from the list of totally prohibited items, either through their own power as Mayor/s or a petition from their constituents. The proposed alternatives could be one of the following:
1.) Laws on usage of weed within a particular city and its adjacent County (i.e. Los Santos and Red County) will be devolved to the Local Government. If the three Mayors enact the same rulings, the law on weed will be the same everywhere. If they enact different rulings, weed could be legal / regulated in one area and criminalized in another.
2.) Weed is legalized State-wide (could also be a City-wide scenario, if #1 happens), albeit with heavy regulation. One example would be allowing medical / recreational usage with every individual being legally allowed to carry below X grams, and only medical institutions being allowed to keep stockpiles in excess of the legal individual limit. This allows for some legalization, while keeping a black market alive.
3.) Weed is completely decriminalized. (could also happen if #1 occurs and all three Mayors agree to decriminalize weed, without regulation)
4.) Other player-created scenarios. (Y'all mothafuckas got brains and imaginations, you could probably make a new one if you want to.)
Any Mayor/s willing to take this road could face a fierce legal battle. And if the scenario is crafted right, even the mobs might find themselves dragged in. With new things for FBI / SAPD and State Attorneys to work on, it would also make for an interesting and intriguing political / judicial scenario. ;)